1) The Toffees have have a pretty difficult start to the season, you're currently 15th and have gone out of the UEFA Cup, what's the mood like at Goodison?
2) David Moyes has ended speculation over his future by signing a new five-year deal reported to be worth £16.5 million. How important is he for the future of your Club?
3) Arsenal & Everton are two of the only remaining 'big clubs' not owned by some foreign billionaire. How do Everton fans feel about the prospect of a buy out?
4) You're the only club that has consistently threatened to take the place of one of the "big four", what's needed to go that extra step?
5) It's been touted in some quarter that Lee Carsley's departure has had a bigger impact than expected, is this a view shared by the fans?
You've got quite a lot of creative talent in your side now, Arteta, Cahill and Pienaar, why do you think Everton rarely get the credit for their football they deserve?
How do you expect Moyes to set his team up on Saturday?
What Arsenal players will most concern your manager?
The game is at the end of an International week. How do you think this will effect the game?
And finally, what's your prediction for the game?
They are mostly rehashing issues discussed on this website at great length but for the Gooners, perhap you need to keep your answers to one-liners if possible!
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1 Posted 16/10/2008 at 14:56:08
3. Can?t answer this in one line
6. Bad PR department
8. Fabregas, Denilson, Walcott, Van Persie, Adebayor, Nasri, Bendtner, Vela
9. It won?t
10. Happy with a draw.
2 Posted 16/10/2008 at 14:59:54
The guy certainly has his talents, but creativity isn’t high up the list.
3 Posted 16/10/2008 at 15:05:57
2. Very important (I should add that there’s no obvious choice to replace him, nobody who could do better under the circumstances)
3. If Blue Bill gets the kind of buyer he’s apparently looking for then IF and WHEN it happens it could be a very good thing for EFC. There’s nothing wrong with foreign ownership in and of itself, but I’d prefer a Villa type ownership to a Chelsea type of ownership.
4. Money, money, money!!!
5. Yes (I still don’t understand why he was let go with no suitable replacement bought in first!)
6. I’m not so sure that "creative talent" is one of our strong points.
7. Defensively, going for the draw (at least)..
8. All of ’em!! Even that idiot Gallas!
9. Makes no difference.
10. A draw would be okay but I wouldn’t be surprised if we nicked it. 2 - 1 to Everton.
4 Posted 16/10/2008 at 15:10:24
"You?ve got quite a lot of creative talent in your side now, Arteta, Cahill and Pienaar, why do you think Everton rarely get the credit for their football they deserve? "
Credit for hoofball?
I now must conclude, that the person who wrote this hasn?t watched very much of our football!
5 Posted 16/10/2008 at 16:12:37
Team: Howard; Hibbert ,Jagielka, Lescott, Baines; Arteta, Fellaini, Neville, Osman, Pienaar; Yakubu.
Watch out for a surprise on 70mins when whatever the score Anichebe will be introduced. I?ve heard the Frenchman?s shitting himself!
6 Posted 16/10/2008 at 16:13:50
So give it a rest mate, every fucking thread I read you're slagging him off!! Obviously that is your opinion but it's ironic how it's only on Everton sites that Cahill is slated (and maybe kopite ones, but for different reasons). Most Premier League clubs would love him in their side & he is one of our only players mentioned in name by both Fergie, Wenger & Mourinho.
In response to the Gooner -
1. Disappointed & angry.
2. No-one is bigger than the club but it is a relief.
3. Arent you lot ?silently? funded by Stan Kroenke? But to answer, in one respect we would love to remain owned by a Blue or a local but we need big bucks to compete. This would seem the only way to get it!
4. Cash - which would buy better quality - bigger & better squad - enabling us to compete.
5. 50/50 - some believe it to be a massive loss, no buying a direct replacement is a bigger issue if that makes sense
6. We are our own worst enemy regarding consistency & reverting back to a long ball game when pressured or nervous.
DM will more than likely want to play 4-5-1 but with Cahill unavailable will prob play 4-4-2.
Fabregas is the heartbeat of your whole team, although you have top drawer players (Adebayor, RVP, Walcott etc) if we squeeze Cesc we will give you a game!!
My head says a tight draw but with a bit of optimisim from DM contract & a good attitude my heart says we can repeat Hull's victory & do you!!
7 Posted 16/10/2008 at 16:22:52
Depressing isn’t it, 5 more bloody years of this dour - defensive tripe!
8 Posted 16/10/2008 at 16:14:58
2) Very, because if we sack him within the next 12 months we?ll right up the Swanee
3) The money would be great but could we attract the players?
4) Arsene Wenger
5) Yes, but we couldn?t stop him
6) Can?t arsenal fans count past 5. True answer, because the Redshite hog all the limelight
7) 9-1 Yak being the 1
8) Everyone from the goalie to Ian Wright and he finished years ago
9) The players are ultra fit and should be able to cope.
10) 1-1 Van Persie and Andy van der Meyde
9 Posted 16/10/2008 at 16:27:09
10 Posted 16/10/2008 at 16:49:58
If you think I don’t like Cahill, then you don’t get my point.
11 Posted 16/10/2008 at 16:55:06
3). It is improtant for the long term future of our club.
5). We need a suitable replacement for Cars.
6). We need more creativity. Currently we don’t have enough.
7). DM will want to be positive: 4-4-2.
8). Cesc. And then the other 10 around him.
9). It will effect the Gooners more than us.
12 Posted 16/10/2008 at 17:29:40
13 Posted 16/10/2008 at 18:00:53
14 Posted 16/10/2008 at 18:47:07
15 Posted 16/10/2008 at 18:59:52
That's Moyes's cunning plan you?ve just handed to the enemy there mate.
16 Posted 16/10/2008 at 18:57:16
1. The arse have had a pretty difficult start to the season, you?re only 4th and lost at home to Hull. What's the mood like in the UAE?
2. Wenger has only 2 years left on his contract, how important is he to the future of your club?
3. Everton are the only remaining ?big club? without a foreign owner, given the involvement of Usmanov at Arsenal, does that piss you off?
4. You?re the only club consistenting fighting the shyte for the left overs, will you ever win the league again ahead of Chelsea, Man Utd and the oil rich Man City?
5. It?s been touted the loss of Henry has affected you more than thought. It?s true aint it?
6. You get a lot of credit for the creative football you play, don?t you think Wenger should use Moyes?s tactics of hoofball since you have that really tall chap Adebeyor upfront?
7. No matter how Moyes sets his squad up on Saturday, does anyone seriously think you wont score a few past us?
8. Our manager will be concerned about all 11 of your players and also the 7 on the bench. Will Wenger be concerned about Phil Neville or Tony Hibbert?
9. The game is at the end of an international week, your lot will be knackered, but most of ours ain't kicked a ball for a week. How you think this will affect how many you will score?
10. And finally, what did the Hull lot say when you asked them for their predictions?
17 Posted 16/10/2008 at 21:04:39
18 Posted 16/10/2008 at 21:27:19
He is a superstar - real funny man. I will now read your posts in a completely different light.
Why oh! why did it take me so long, apologies for that Richard.
19 Posted 16/10/2008 at 21:40:27
We park the bus in front of Howard's goal and pray for a miracle. How easy can that be?
20 Posted 16/10/2008 at 23:08:23
1, utterly depressed.
2, no man is bigger than the club, he by delaying has pissed so many of us off many of us are very disillusioned by the whole episode.
3, Without substantial investment we will always struggle.
5, Without a shadow of a doubt, Lee Carsley (and I love the fella) needed to be replaced with a younger version when it was clear he wouldn't take part in our first ill-fated venture into Europe under DM, we missed him very very badly, we still miss his qualities.
6, not fashionable (one of the Sky 4)
7, his usual style against said Sky 4 very defensively and hope for a draw (we?ll battle manfully for 50 mins then when the Arse score he?ll try tactics that may have worked if only he had some faith in football not hoofball).
8, The fooking lot of ?em from Almunia to Walcott (ok with the exception of Gallas)
9, I?d love to say seeing as most of our team have stayed on Merseyside we would benefit from the break but I can?t see it
10, 0-6 win to the Blues! ? We?ll piss it.
21 Posted 17/10/2008 at 00:25:44
2. Heaven help us all !
3. The sooner the better to, hopefully, get rid of Billy Bullshit.
6. because it’s mainly "Hoofball".
8. All of them
10. I would be happy with a draw but do not expect one.
22 Posted 17/10/2008 at 00:48:29
2 - Managers come and go, if he left we wouldn?t cease to exist despite the protestations of the narrow minded (remember Martin Jol got pumped by Spurs and where are Hamburg in the Bundesliga right now and where are Spurs in the EPL?)
3 - It?s highly unlikely to happen as Billy Bullshitter wants a job for life (no one exists stupid enough to throw money at the clown for him to use on his trainset with zero return)
4 - Black Bill in a six foot wooden box a la Peter Swayles, David Moyes actually learning from mistakes, employing a second in command with an ounce of attacking footballing knowledge, scouts that have gone to specsavers and a raft of investment to pay for it all
5 - The departure of Carsley tied with DM not being able to change the formation or gameplan has been important, you simply can?t continue to play a formation that needs that type of player if he isn?t there anymore; ties in with DM learning from mistakes (6 years+ and counting and waiting)
6 - We don?t get credit as we aren?t one of the bastard children of Sky and the media, just watch Match of the Day even if we win but don?t blink or you will miss it.
7 - DM will set his team out as he always does, ultra defensive hoping for a lucky break, nervous and use substitutions too late to make any difference when we fall behind as he has no game plan to come from behind to win matches.
8 - Any of the Arsenal team would worry us, more talented, faster and fitter.
9 - International break aside it will no doubt be one of many possible and overly used feeble excuses should be get a pummelling.
10 - Prediction is a home banker for the gooners even given our away form, get a goal against us and we will collapse.
23 Posted 17/10/2008 at 03:36:37
24 Posted 17/10/2008 at 03:43:37
25 Posted 17/10/2008 at 09:14:27
26 Posted 17/10/2008 at 10:56:57
But in my view Cahill is many things, and very important and influential to Everton.
But he is not creative, at all. He heads well, runs well, loses markers well, seems to score important goals just when we need him, he also has a dandy little goal celebration.
But he will never be listed in the top 50 creative midfielders...
27 Posted 17/10/2008 at 11:26:51
As for Saturday, I?m gonna try SO HARD to enjoy the Arsenal ripping us apart and teach my kids to do the same ? like I expected everyone else to do when the holy trinity and Kendall's team were pissing over everybody ? humility, a painful lesson, but we?ll give it a go.
28 Posted 17/10/2008 at 12:23:58
THEO THEO THEO!!!!!!
29 Posted 17/10/2008 at 12:28:32
I agree that this season we?ve played some shite hoofball and at times last season, but for large parts of last season we also played some pretty good football (on the deck) with the likes of Arteta, Pienaar, and Osman at the heart of that. That is what that geezer is referring to. A lot of you just brush that aside and just concentrate and only ever mention that we?ve played some shite long ball stuff. Perhaps you haven?t seen that much of our play over the past few seasons?
30 Posted 17/10/2008 at 13:23:05
31 Posted 17/10/2008 at 14:08:19
32 Posted 17/10/2008 at 14:26:16
The continued insistence by some of our supporters that Cahill is a great player (without qualification) and always merits a starting place ? is simply not supported by evidence.
If you say I don?t like Cahill then your ignoring my point. I think he?s a great player...but he?s a luxury player who can only play in a 4-5-1 (or more precisely a 4-1-3-1-1)....This is because he is not very creative on the ball and gets lost in a 4-man midfield, where he doesn't have the necessary skill or foresight to be a provider.
therefore this limits our options with him... personally I think it?s prudent to drop him for certain games and play Saha in a conventional 4-4-2...
You may disagree with this and thats fair enough ? but to say I don?t like Cahill because I think he is limited and shouldn't start every game and formation, is simply wrong.
I think he should be used effectively... and sometimes this means not using him at all.
33 Posted 17/10/2008 at 15:42:29
2) It's very important for the sake of stability and also more tellingly that he sees opportunity to further develop the team in the next five years ? perhaps new investment is on the way after all....
3) At this rate, we?re going to need one if we want a decent ground and a team that can compete at the highest level, what choice do we have?
4) See above...
5) He was starting to lag at the end of last season, the fact that he hasn?t been properly replaced, the lack of transfer activity until August 31 and the manager doesn?t seem to know his best side have also been massive factors in the poor start we?ve made.
6) We play very little good football at the moment, in particular against the top four sides, where our plan tends to be defend in numbers until we concede (one point out of a possible 33 against these sides of late). Given these are the most high profile games, where we are watched by a national audience, then in truth we don?t deserve any credit for the football we?ve played this season.
7) 4-5-1 and keep you out for as long as we can.
8) Every attacking player you have will concern him.
9) Hopefully a lot ? in truth, not at all, although if you are missing one or two players because of that, it is to our benefit of course.
10) 3-0 Arsenal
34 Posted 17/10/2008 at 16:36:04
35 Posted 17/10/2008 at 16:41:31
But I?m also a believer in picking your best players and if you believe that finding a place for Saha who hasn't done nothing for us yet & hasn't found the net for a good long time over Cahill who is consistently one of our better players, who finds the net in big games & lesser games alike then our opinions are fucking poles apart mate.
Just ask any ex-pro involved with EFC or not, or better still when opposing managers, players & fans talk about Everton, you will find that Cahill is one of their primary concerns. So let's leave it at a difference of opinion!!
36 Posted 17/10/2008 at 16:53:10
I?ve seen every game, home and away for the last four season (bar about 4 games).
Perhaps I?ve seen more than most and that's where the problem lies.
37 Posted 17/10/2008 at 17:02:36
1. The mood is fragile. Everyone's a but twitchy as to how our season will pan out.
2. Mega important.
3. Usmanov is a cunt
4. I hope so. If Flamini and Sagna had not got injured at the end of last season we might have done it.
5. I don?t think the Henry loss is as big as I thought it would be. I still wish he was a Gooner though.
6. I?d agree our style has changed now that Ade is up front.
7. Did you see us against Hull & Fulham?
8. The Yak and Arteta are more than capable of causing us problems.
9. I think it could be a major issue for us.
10. Hull lot thought they?d do ok but we?d win. I did too.
38 Posted 17/10/2008 at 17:37:24
By the way, out of curiosity... did you think Cahill played well in the Liege game in a 4-4-2?
39 Posted 17/10/2008 at 18:15:54
Anyone who would term Cahill as ’creative’ is deluded. Simple.
And, watch him in a 4-4-2. Waste of space.
40 Posted 17/10/2008 at 19:54:09
1. Fragile? Try being 15th with the arse and Man Ure in successive weeks.
2. No King is greater than the Throne on which he sits.
3. Usmanov is extremely wealthy. Bill Kenwright is extremely trying.
4. I seriously doubt it.
5. I think Henry has created a huge dent in your side ? though I admit it was a good piece of business.
6. I rate Ade. Quality. Will enjoy playing against Jags tomorrow.
7. I saw the Hull game ? thought we did well to get a point at their place afterwards.
8. "The Yak and Arteta are more than capable of causing us problems." ? Have you seen either play this season? Arteta's precision can't be faulted ? every single corner or free kick will be aimed, and hit, the first defender. Every time. It's amazing.
9. I think you're B or C side would have a field-day against us so don't panic.
10. I think you'll play us off the park and we will nick a 1-1! I have to believe!
41 Posted 17/10/2008 at 22:02:25
So Cahill only scores the occasional goal and is not a creative type eh? If that's the case, who the hell are our creative types and why are they not creating?
The paltry number of chances per game that spring from our midfield does not say much for their creativity. I dearly wish that just one of that sad bunch of frauds would show a fraction of Tim?s enthusiasm, stamina and scoring ability.
I challenge anyone to name another of our players who could force his way into any one of the Sky 4 teams.
42 Posted 17/10/2008 at 22:38:29
Agree with (almost) every word there. But, IMHO, he is not creative which is where this little side discussion began.
The bit I don’t agree with - are you seriously suggesting Cahill would get into any of the Sky 4 sides?
43 Posted 18/10/2008 at 04:27:19
When was the last time we peppered the opponents with chance after chance? We would be lucky to see more than two and sometimes not even that.
As for Tim’s worth on the transfer market, please name another of our players who would be more valuable.