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Joe to go?
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After reading some reports that Joseph Yobo may leave this summer, I was interested to know what my fellow TW'ers would think if he did move on?
Personally, I do believe if we were to get a good price for him, over the £5-6m range I think it would be a good bit of business as I believe he is not going to get any better... actually, I think he has got worse over the last few years after a very promising start to his Everton career.
So what do you think?
Stuart O'Malley, Posted 07/05/2010 at 13:25:55
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I'd prefer to keep him; his pace is a very useful tactical option for Moyes to have. And what could we buy with £5-6m? He may have his foibles but at least Moyes is accustomed to his strengths and weaknesses and can utilise him accordingly.
We could hardly afford an established star with the money, and whoever his replacement would be would need time to bed into the squad. So I'd definitely keep him in the short term (assuming he's happy to be a squad member of course).
With Jags, Distin, Heitinga, Duffy, Mustafi left there if Yobo did go then we are obviously covered well at CB. There is always the possibility of Senderos coming in as a squad player on a free. I like Joey Yobo and it would be a shame for him to move on, his pace is an asset that our other defenders don't really have.
Having said that, £5-8m for him would be a good price for a squad player and could go towards that right winger we all would love to see.
Having said that, £5-8m for him would be a good price for a squad player and could go towards that right winger we all would love to see.
Yobo is better than Distin and Senderos, include Duffy and Rodwell in that as well... are you all mad???
Davie Weir's out of contract in three weeks at Rangers, maybe Bill will be able to cobble together enough loose change from down the back of the sofa to bring old Pea's back!
I doubt were going to get anywhere near £5-6M for Yobo, you're looking more like £3M tops. I'm sure he'll do well at a bottom half PL team.
No he should be kept. Senderos is a liability! No way do we want to be signing players like that.
Distin as well is not convincing and old.
Yobo should stay for me we need good squad players too not just a first 11.
Distin as well is not convincing and old.
Yobo should stay for me we need good squad players too not just a first 11.
I think he's our third best centre back behind Jags and Heitinga but he's still a very good defender and would walk into most teams in the Premier League. I'd be disappointed to see him go ahead of the likes of Distin and Senderos.
There's no doubt that in most games and on his day he's a brilliant centre half with great aerial ability and pace, but he does still make the odd mistake which could cost him his Everton career? Stuart I would not sell him for £6 million, he's worth more than that in today's climate, we just paid over £5 mill for Distin and he's better and younger than him!
There's no doubt that in most games and on his day he's a brilliant centre half with great aerial ability and pace, but he does still make the odd mistake which could cost him his Everton career? Stuart I would not sell him for £6 million, he's worth more than that in today's climate, we just paid over £5 mill for Distin and he's better and younger than him!
How much would we realistically get... £3-4 mill?
It all seems like a long time now since Joey made an impressive debut for the Blues. I can still remember the buzz around the ground with his sublime touch and skill in defending. But sadly his star has waned significantly since.
Personally, I think he still has a lot to offer, he's just lost his way for one reason or another. It must kill him to see the likes of Distin and Senderos getting ahead of him in the pecking order. He seems reduced now to substitute appearances in the 90th minute.
If Moyes can just instill a bit more confidence in him, I believe he could be back to his near best and without a doubt warrant a place in the side.
Personally, I think he still has a lot to offer, he's just lost his way for one reason or another. It must kill him to see the likes of Distin and Senderos getting ahead of him in the pecking order. He seems reduced now to substitute appearances in the 90th minute.
If Moyes can just instill a bit more confidence in him, I believe he could be back to his near best and without a doubt warrant a place in the side.
In an ideal world, it's good to have experienced squad players, but when funds are thin on the ground and there's other priorities, I'd cash in.
If we get £4million for example, it doesn't mean we can only buy a player for £4million. The money could be used as a first installment on a bigger transfer deal, and the rest paid over coming years, eg, the Fellaini deal. Yobo is also one of the higher earners at the club.
If we get £4million for example, it doesn't mean we can only buy a player for £4million. The money could be used as a first installment on a bigger transfer deal, and the rest paid over coming years, eg, the Fellaini deal. Yobo is also one of the higher earners at the club.
If we got £4 million for Yobo, Moyes would be lucky if he was given half of that to spend.
Peter; Out of curiosity... where would the second installment come from?
Peter; Out of curiosity... where would the second installment come from?
Yobo is a very good defender, yes he has his dodgy moments, but he has been very Loyal and I for one would keep him. I look forward to his testimonial in a couple of years.
Yobo has had one too many shockers to be considered a first choice CB for a team with European aspirations.
Yes he has been a good servant and he does have blistering pace, but I don't rate him as a CB. Personally I would have loved to have see him playing @ RB - I think the time is right for him to go, he would be a quailty addition to anyone coming up from the Championship.
Yes he has been a good servant and he does have blistering pace, but I don't rate him as a CB. Personally I would have loved to have see him playing @ RB - I think the time is right for him to go, he would be a quailty addition to anyone coming up from the Championship.
Dave - Distin can be the second installment next year.
Ha Ha
Fair enough
Fair enough
If we could get anything between £4m - £6m for him then I'd let him go, I think we've got enough in there at CB to allow him to leave; to say he's an experienced pro, he makes far too many mistakes and over the last couple of seasons they've proved costly.
We could then bring in Senderos for free as cover for a year or two (yeah I know he's not much cop but for nothing and for a year or two he will do and then we could fetch in a fee for him when we want rid!) and with the money from the Yobo sale, that could go towards signing a much needed right winger.
Let's be honest, what would we all rather have, Yobo in the side or an effective RW like Donovan or someone else? I know what I'd rather have. When we had Donovan we were on a right run, our form matched the likes of Man Utd's and Chelsea's; did Yobo figure much in that run? I don't think so... so I think we could go without him and we definitely need our RW position sorted!
We could then bring in Senderos for free as cover for a year or two (yeah I know he's not much cop but for nothing and for a year or two he will do and then we could fetch in a fee for him when we want rid!) and with the money from the Yobo sale, that could go towards signing a much needed right winger.
Let's be honest, what would we all rather have, Yobo in the side or an effective RW like Donovan or someone else? I know what I'd rather have. When we had Donovan we were on a right run, our form matched the likes of Man Utd's and Chelsea's; did Yobo figure much in that run? I don't think so... so I think we could go without him and we definitely need our RW position sorted!
I think it is time to pull the plug on Joseph. Unfortunately there is no sentiment in football. Yobo was an alright player when we were flirting around the relegation places but, now we have taken that extra step up, there is no place for the likes of Yobo, Hibbert and Osman in our first eleven.
I would compare Joseph with the likes of Titus Bramble and the the Greek fella who plays for our neighbours. Would you be happy if we signed someone like that?
My opinion is to get rid of him.
Yobo is probably on quite a high wage and by getting rid of him will free up some wage budget. This will allow us to give Rodwell a increased wage, and the hopes of him signing are much more likely now as United now have Smalling and Evans (just signed a new contract).
Use part of the transfer fee to give Pienaar his contract demands, and make sure we keep our first and best eleven together.
Yobo is probably on quite a high wage and by getting rid of him will free up some wage budget. This will allow us to give Rodwell a increased wage, and the hopes of him signing are much more likely now as United now have Smalling and Evans (just signed a new contract).
Use part of the transfer fee to give Pienaar his contract demands, and make sure we keep our first and best eleven together.
Sell Yobo and buy Riquelme. According to this he'll be available:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=782914&sec=global&root=global&cc=4716
I wouldn't take Clumperos if Arsenal paid us to take him, 50p-head may have his faults but lack of pace and positioning aren't as bad as his. Distin is quick for such a big lad but has had his moments. If we could get a decent price I would say sell him but not in order to keep Clumpy, the money could well be spent elsewhere if BK doesn't get his grubby mitts on it.
It seems all our CBs except Heitiga have their moments including Jags. I have been very disappointed at our inability to keep clean sheets this season. I guess it's too hard to concentrate for 90 mins thinking about what to do with your £40k at the end of the game...
IMO Yobo is as good as Distin (and younger) and better than Senderos, has better distribution than Jags so in orfer of the exit door I would have Senderos (free or not he will command wages), Distin,Yobo and Jags (early days but he is struggling to get back to the do or die defending pre-injury).
If we are to get into the top 4 we need a much better defensive pairing than we currently have available.
Duffy may be a very good prospect but at the back there's no substitute for experience (Just ask Stubbsy or Davy Weir).
IMO Yobo is as good as Distin (and younger) and better than Senderos, has better distribution than Jags so in orfer of the exit door I would have Senderos (free or not he will command wages), Distin,Yobo and Jags (early days but he is struggling to get back to the do or die defending pre-injury).
If we are to get into the top 4 we need a much better defensive pairing than we currently have available.
Duffy may be a very good prospect but at the back there's no substitute for experience (Just ask Stubbsy or Davy Weir).
We don't have money, we don't need Yobo. I think it's come to the point where we need to move on. Not to diminish Yobo as a player, he has been solid for us for years. We have 3 solid CBs (Heitinga, Distin, Jags) along with Duffy and, if we decide we really need cover, Senderos. Use the money to buy Donovan.
I like Yobo, he appears to be a decent hardworking individual but......
He is not good enough anymore for the level we are trying to crack so maybe for the bench.
Senderos is a great lumpen troll. I doubt a team would sign him in the Garston Sunday League. A player that makes you want to leave the ground in shame. Bloody awful.
He is not good enough anymore for the level we are trying to crack so maybe for the bench.
Senderos is a great lumpen troll. I doubt a team would sign him in the Garston Sunday League. A player that makes you want to leave the ground in shame. Bloody awful.
If anyone thinks that Distin should be included with the the best of what we've got are very disillusioned.
Distin is a less than average centre-half and has been shown up for what he is over the season. We need cover for Jag's and Heitinga as well as a consistent striker who can play more than 25 matches a season and get the goals to match his minutes on the pitch.
I hope for one we palm off Distin & Yobo to the Boltons & Wigans of the world so we can bring in much needed re-inforcements.
Distin is a less than average centre-half and has been shown up for what he is over the season. We need cover for Jag's and Heitinga as well as a consistent striker who can play more than 25 matches a season and get the goals to match his minutes on the pitch.
I hope for one we palm off Distin & Yobo to the Boltons & Wigans of the world so we can bring in much needed re-inforcements.
If we were offered £4 million+ I would sell him. Otherwise keep as cover. Joey's distribution is the worst of any of our CBs and he's error prone. He's also more injury prone than previously. Distin is a left-sided CB who has had a decent season — we need to keep him. Get shut of Senderos and get Duffy on a long term deal.
I'm with Aidy... we need a right mid more than a 3rd CB...end of.
Paul Rimmer,
Agree entirely with you. I like Joey but his idea of distribution is simply to lump the ball forward as quickly as possible. Not what we want unless you guys love hoofball. With Senderos, I had high hopes Moyes would be able to bring out the best in him, but alas, it was not to be. Send him back from whence he came, I say. I reckon another left back as backup for Bainsey and another striker should be our priorities.
Agree entirely with you. I like Joey but his idea of distribution is simply to lump the ball forward as quickly as possible. Not what we want unless you guys love hoofball. With Senderos, I had high hopes Moyes would be able to bring out the best in him, but alas, it was not to be. Send him back from whence he came, I say. I reckon another left back as backup for Bainsey and another striker should be our priorities.
I like Yobo, I think he's served us well and he does a job, but ultimately he seems to have reached the limit with us and it could be best for both sides if he leaves this summer.
Ideally we'd get some more cash (I think £4M+ is reasonable) to chip towards the right/up front from an area where we do have a little cover. Ideally we'd have another loaner or bring in a youth as cover though — would like to feel we had four centre-backs from day 1 to cover injuries.
Ideally we'd get some more cash (I think £4M+ is reasonable) to chip towards the right/up front from an area where we do have a little cover. Ideally we'd have another loaner or bring in a youth as cover though — would like to feel we had four centre-backs from day 1 to cover injuries.
If anyone thinks Yobo is only worth £3m compared to an admittedly overpriced £22m Lescott then they are way off the mark. Easily worth £6-7m and I would only sell him if we had to.
Great loyal servant, but I believe that it's time for Joey to move on. He has blistering pace, but very error-prone that often costs us a few games per season, and recently become more injury-prone. I think that this may also affect his confidence, and perhaps the best way forward for him is to a new environment where he can re-build his confidence. If Joey goes with about £4-5 million, I will wish him best of luck.
Just a suggestion to the hundreds of thousands of players we are either interested/linked with in the summer.
Martin Petrov? I saw him linked with West Ham in he papers today for a free transfer. Why don't we go for him? Tricky, good left foot, can play in both flanks. Yes maybe he's not the quickest and may want a bit of wages, but surely worth it for a player of his quality?
It's about time we got rid of him. The man hasn't the first clue how to pass, the moment he receives the ball to the moment it leaves him, he is petrified of it. Hence hoof it all costs.
Is it worth the goals he scores? hardly. It's absolutely no coincidence Everton play poorly at the back when he is playing.
He is no longer surplus to requirements, why people think this player is good is beyond me. What we want is a defender who does not panic under pressure, can actually pass the damned ball to a team mate. A skillfull, cool-headed player who does not panic when he gets the ball is what he is not. He makes tons of mistakes that at our level of football is just not acceptable, and no doubt the very reason moyse tries not to play him.
I guess the reason that he has made a number of starts this year, is for window dressing for the summer sale. I think if we get £3 million for him we'd be robbing the buying the team.
What good is pace if he spends 2/3rds of the match fast asleep? For moments of inspiration he may very rarely provide he does not warrant a place either in the team or on the bench, I'd rather go with an untried Coleman imo.
Is it worth the goals he scores? hardly. It's absolutely no coincidence Everton play poorly at the back when he is playing.
He is no longer surplus to requirements, why people think this player is good is beyond me. What we want is a defender who does not panic under pressure, can actually pass the damned ball to a team mate. A skillfull, cool-headed player who does not panic when he gets the ball is what he is not. He makes tons of mistakes that at our level of football is just not acceptable, and no doubt the very reason moyse tries not to play him.
I guess the reason that he has made a number of starts this year, is for window dressing for the summer sale. I think if we get £3 million for him we'd be robbing the buying the team.
What good is pace if he spends 2/3rds of the match fast asleep? For moments of inspiration he may very rarely provide he does not warrant a place either in the team or on the bench, I'd rather go with an untried Coleman imo.
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Bring in a pacy winger with the cash...