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Lazy Shite Journalism Epitomised
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No new surprises and yet another example of why most Everton fans hold Sky and other media sources in such low respect: has anyone read their season review of Everton? Utter shite with very little to suggest they actually watched any of our games.
Read and decide yourself:-
Gavin Ramejkis, Posted 15/05/2010 at 12:50:59
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Overall the analysis is probably correct....you expect dozy comments like 'the quality of Neville' from people who don't watch the game..
As for Marouane, he got it together before his exit... but the majority of his season he couldn't string a pass. He only improved when Pienaar and Donovan were on the opposing wings...
As for Marouane, he got it together before his exit... but the majority of his season he couldn't string a pass. He only improved when Pienaar and Donovan were on the opposing wings...
Distin player of the season was as far as I read.
Gutterpress
Gutterpress
The comments on Fellaini are well wide of the mark.
As for the rest of it, there was little with which I would quibble.
As for the rest of it, there was little with which I would quibble.
Des, signing of the season Distin? Barely a mention of Heitinga? Barely a mention of Bily, despite his first season, his goal returns still impressive? Nothing about poor refereeing which was acknowledged at the time? Nothing of the Arsenal away game? Little of the Chelsea home game which we dominated? Little of the Man U home game which we again dominated? Nothing of the Man City games home and away which we again dominated?
Seriously, Gavin-get a life! Your complaint, which inexplicably warrants a thread, is pathetic! It's just a standard piece of complimentary fluff. A generic synopsis. They do the same for every club...
It's Silly Season, guys!!
It's Silly Season, guys!!
Nothing good comes from media! I thought everyone already knew that? They will always have their favourites. No matter what we achieve on the pitch, there will be no difference. Everton is just one of many things that media doesn't give a flying fuck about. Live with it — or go out and fight it!
Nothing good comes from the media?
Now there's a wrecking ball of a statement.
Listen lads...Football punditry should be taken with a rather large pinch of sodium. It's certainly not something to get upset about.
Now there's a wrecking ball of a statement.
Listen lads...Football punditry should be taken with a rather large pinch of sodium. It's certainly not something to get upset about.
Gents, you win the media, you increase your brand visibility, a modicum of marketing genius or just common sense. Are you honestly saying, from no-marks dropping down the leagues at a rate of knots, Man Shitty deserve the media darling status now because they have oil money and still no trophy?
If we bothered our arse as a club to get on side with the media, we may just may be able to sell ourselves and increase our value to potential buyers. The subservient "just bend over for your annual prostrate exam" ethos gets on my nerves, fight you lazy bastards, stand up for a cause.
If we bothered our arse as a club to get on side with the media, we may just may be able to sell ourselves and increase our value to potential buyers. The subservient "just bend over for your annual prostrate exam" ethos gets on my nerves, fight you lazy bastards, stand up for a cause.
Ciaran; you're right, football punditry should be taken with a pinch of salt; however it also informs (disinforms) an overall perception to a non football analysing section of the public that Everton are just making up the numbers.
While history may be all we have at current (with anticipation of next season brewing). It would be wise to remember that the current double winners are only as succesful as Newcastle and Sheff Wed.
But trying telling that to the "Sky 4" lemmings.
While history may be all we have at current (with anticipation of next season brewing). It would be wise to remember that the current double winners are only as succesful as Newcastle and Sheff Wed.
But trying telling that to the "Sky 4" lemmings.
Bite-sized, easily digested pieces of of half baked gossip and empty, pointless shite, presented (with sleight-of-hand) as important and/or relevant by dead-eyed, pretty blonde women.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Sky Sorts 'News'.
Should we be surprised at the content of ANYTHING on Sky? Not when we know who owns it.
I remember the late (definitely great) Dennis Potter, who, on finding out he had cancer, named it Rupert.
Personally I thought that was a bit hard... yeah you got it!
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Sky Sorts 'News'.
Should we be surprised at the content of ANYTHING on Sky? Not when we know who owns it.
I remember the late (definitely great) Dennis Potter, who, on finding out he had cancer, named it Rupert.
Personally I thought that was a bit hard... yeah you got it!
I think Everton are just a boring club for the media. No Bellamy or Kitson making comments about the manager. No dodgy American owners... we've got English ones. Our supporters aren't that lively either compared to the Geordies, Liverpool, and Pompey... so really I think the media struggle to find anything interesting about Everton. This is a good thing.
Distin — singing of the season?! No way, that one has got to go to Heitinga.
When you are hated by the media, - You know you are doing the right thing!
That can't be so hard to understand?
There is only one way of being employed as a journalist these days. You have to be stupid enough. That's it!
"We don't care what the media says... And what the heck do we care?" *singing*
That can't be so hard to understand?
There is only one way of being employed as a journalist these days. You have to be stupid enough. That's it!
"We don't care what the media says... And what the heck do we care?" *singing*
Media get on my fucking nerves, up to today in the news we are so far losing Jags, Peanuts, Mikey, Rodders & Bainesy.
I wish some of those writers would get a real job!
Gerry; In the days of Harry Catterick, who never trusted the press, he did not court the media. These days, with the way Sky have poured millions into the game, they seem to have the divine right to favour certain clubs more than others.
Nothing is going to change, so its just a matter of getting on with things. Moyes handles the media very well.
We aren't hated by the media. They are just indifferent to us for the most part. An ambivalent relationship comes into play when 'bigger' clubs come after our players, then we get attention. But, for the most part, there is little focus on us.
I also detect an underlying attitude that the media drives people's perceptions. I don't buy this theory; people can be sheep-like, but there has to be some form of demand for what is pumped out. The relationship is not just one way. In other words, the media serves up what is required by the audience.
I also detect an underlying attitude that the media drives people's perceptions. I don't buy this theory; people can be sheep-like, but there has to be some form of demand for what is pumped out. The relationship is not just one way. In other words, the media serves up what is required by the audience.
You know what you are going to get from Sky Sports News, so I don't watch it. Similarly I don't buy the Daily Mail.
Ciaran; "...you're right, football punditry should be taken with a pinch of salt; however, it also informs (disinforms) an overall perception to a non-football analysing section of the public that Everton are just making up the numbers."
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My response to this would be a well considered...."so?"
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My response to this would be a well considered...."so?"
Have to side with Ciaran on this I'm afraid. And Gavin, why did you even bother to raise this much ado about absolutely nothing?
I hate Sky & Murdoch. But that's besides the point. They made a strange call on Fellaini and putting Distin ahead of Heitinga shows the person compiling the report obviously didn't see enough of Everton.
But the overall report is perfectly reasonable. I think too many Evertonians see too many bogey men in too many places.
As Mr McGlone suggests, who gives a fuck what Sky think? And please, less of the marketing/persuasion hyperbolic nonsense.
I hate Sky & Murdoch. But that's besides the point. They made a strange call on Fellaini and putting Distin ahead of Heitinga shows the person compiling the report obviously didn't see enough of Everton.
But the overall report is perfectly reasonable. I think too many Evertonians see too many bogey men in too many places.
As Mr McGlone suggests, who gives a fuck what Sky think? And please, less of the marketing/persuasion hyperbolic nonsense.
Spot on, Kevin. I wonder whether anybody would care if it changed from "we don't care what the red shite say" to "we don't care what the media say"? ;)
I hate to think that any Murdoch mouthpiece could get anything right, but if I had to sum up the season in a few words, that would be about it.
The Big Fella was at last playing in his natural position, and was excellent in shielding the back four and launching/supporting attacks.
While Heitinga should become the signing of the decade fairly soon now, again, because of injuries, he played most of the season out of position.
Distin, after a few wobbles, settled, and when he started carrying the ball out of defence I knew we had a good one, so overall not a daft conclusion.
Not that I give a toss, but what did Sly say about, for example, the Shite? If they said words to the effect of 'Rafa needed a bigger budget to be able to compete on a level playing field....' then any criticism would be justified. 'The Shite were shite' would justify the journalist concerned.
Yes — the media are annoying and potentially dangerous, but no-one can really assess what effect they have on human understanding. Thankfully, I think I know the only idiot who sits and soaks it all up dutifully as a sponge.
The Big Fella was at last playing in his natural position, and was excellent in shielding the back four and launching/supporting attacks.
While Heitinga should become the signing of the decade fairly soon now, again, because of injuries, he played most of the season out of position.
Distin, after a few wobbles, settled, and when he started carrying the ball out of defence I knew we had a good one, so overall not a daft conclusion.
Not that I give a toss, but what did Sly say about, for example, the Shite? If they said words to the effect of 'Rafa needed a bigger budget to be able to compete on a level playing field....' then any criticism would be justified. 'The Shite were shite' would justify the journalist concerned.
Yes — the media are annoying and potentially dangerous, but no-one can really assess what effect they have on human understanding. Thankfully, I think I know the only idiot who sits and soaks it all up dutifully as a sponge.
ps to self:
Just having checked my own post, it occurred that, all being well, we will have Arteta, Heitinga and Fellaini available at the start of season. How should they best be deployed? Has anyone put this up already?
There are, of course, three answers — yours, mine and that of David Moyes. Three threads I reckon.
pps to self:
I'm sure in my own mind that the Shite wanted to injure at least one key player when Big Mo fell to the no-mark Greek. At least that means they knew we were likely to finish above them.
Just having checked my own post, it occurred that, all being well, we will have Arteta, Heitinga and Fellaini available at the start of season. How should they best be deployed? Has anyone put this up already?
There are, of course, three answers — yours, mine and that of David Moyes. Three threads I reckon.
pps to self:
I'm sure in my own mind that the Shite wanted to injure at least one key player when Big Mo fell to the no-mark Greek. At least that means they knew we were likely to finish above them.
Keith
The answer to your question is simple and indisputable.
Hetinga — centre back.
Arteta and Fellaini — Centre Midfield.
I don't understand the original article's intention.
The answer to your question is simple and indisputable.
Hetinga — centre back.
Arteta and Fellaini — Centre Midfield.
I don't understand the original article's intention.
Have they changed that piece since you read it?
I don't see a problem. The Fellaini comment is wrong, and I'd put Heitinga ahead of Distin for best signing, but what is there really to be complaining about?
Relax.
I don't see a problem. The Fellaini comment is wrong, and I'd put Heitinga ahead of Distin for best signing, but what is there really to be complaining about?
Relax.
Couple of mistakes in this one too but hopefully you'll find it fairer and more in depth:
http://www.footballfancast.com/football-blogs/nine-things-we-learnt-from-everton-this-season
http://www.footballfancast.com/football-blogs/nine-things-we-learnt-from-everton-this-season
Dave Smith - He he, yes I think it would be no problem. After all, Liverpool FC and the media are two sides of the same coin. They kind of coexist, as the term "red shite" can be applied to them both in more ways than one, ha ha.
There is also that possibility to take this talking point - and that song to the next level by having a spontaneous demonstration outside the editorial offices, while singing:
"We don't care what the media say and what the heck do we care?
But with all our might, we are gonna start a fight -
'CAUSE THE EVERTON-FANS ARE HERE!"
And while we are at it, during the derby we can all turn our heads towards the Liverpool bench and loudly sing:
We don't care what the FAT MAN says, there's just one thing he enjoy...
He and "Stevie G", they would love to be
in the bed with Ladyboy
That would make the song a little more "living" and not just about knowing our history.
After all - the battle right now is just as important...
"And if you know your enemies..."
There is also that possibility to take this talking point - and that song to the next level by having a spontaneous demonstration outside the editorial offices, while singing:
"We don't care what the media say and what the heck do we care?
But with all our might, we are gonna start a fight -
'CAUSE THE EVERTON-FANS ARE HERE!"
And while we are at it, during the derby we can all turn our heads towards the Liverpool bench and loudly sing:
We don't care what the FAT MAN says, there's just one thing he enjoy...
He and "Stevie G", they would love to be
in the bed with Ladyboy
That would make the song a little more "living" and not just about knowing our history.
After all - the battle right now is just as important...
"And if you know your enemies..."
I read that article a few days ago and thought that it had been written by someone with very limited knowledge of Everton or our season.
Then I moved onto doing something else.
Then I moved onto doing something else.
Smart move! =)
I think a quote from Peter Sellers should cover this -
"It all comes so easy in the dark hours ..."
By the way, how do you get your name in blue with a girly font?
"It all comes so easy in the dark hours ..."
By the way, how do you get your name in blue with a girly font?
Perhaps I am rewarded for long and faithful service to this community. All my great posts during the years are starting to pay off now. =).
I thank you all for the support!
Was by no means the worst review i've ever read. Did the job of fairly accurately describing our season, although he's clearly way off the mark saying that Distin was a shrewd signing and that Fellaini failed to capture the form of last season.
The analysis is fair though — a poor start characterised by multiple injuries to key players, and a strong finish that no one saw coming. Credit must go to Moyes and the team for somewhat making up for the poor start.
The analysis is fair though — a poor start characterised by multiple injuries to key players, and a strong finish that no one saw coming. Credit must go to Moyes and the team for somewhat making up for the poor start.
ps: We're not the only team who are unfavoured by certain media — that's the way of the world... successful teams get more coverage; teams who finish 8th and achieve nothing get less. There shouldn't really be anything to complain about.
I was wondering why I had it too. I guess you left your html tag open Kevin..
Keith — No 22 Re the deliberate clogging: It has always been there, in different guises. But the episodes on Pienaar times 3 (?) by various teams and Johnny H have one thing in common, most in the first few mins of the start, knowing full well that the Ref will almost always give you a 'free one'.
But it took Refs a few seasons to catch on to the penalty box diving when it (diving) has been going for the last 10 or 12 yrs and started in the World Cup.
So how long will it take to for them and FIFA to clamp down on it?
Getting your retaliation in first used to be a bit of a joke, but with an ounce of truth... but not now the rewards are so great.
Sad the way standards have fallen.
But it took Refs a few seasons to catch on to the penalty box diving when it (diving) has been going for the last 10 or 12 yrs and started in the World Cup.
So how long will it take to for them and FIFA to clamp down on it?
Getting your retaliation in first used to be a bit of a joke, but with an ounce of truth... but not now the rewards are so great.
Sad the way standards have fallen.
Derek - not so long ago we used to hand them out. It's a bit rich complaining about it now. Almost Wenger-like.
Ernie — I guess that too... but I was quick to close it though! =)
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Says it all!