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Congratulations, Coleman!
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What an extraordinary day this was for our young star Seamus Coleman... victory at Wembley, where so few players are fortunate enough to tread, let alone win. Coleman looked fully worthy -- he was completely poised in the ultimate pressure cooker (and a very hot one today!). He was calm on the ball and fearless in attack, and it was his quick, sharp move in from the right touchline that triggered Ormerod's gamewinner. And he made the last two critical clearances in the final seconds that helped preserve Blackpool's promotion to heaven.
However, it must also be said that Coleman's defensive inexperience was also fully on display. He was caught completely flatfooted by Ledley's obvious angled run for Cardiff's second goal (you could see it coming 20 yards away), and he repeatedly drifted while marking. His head was turned when Ledley popped up wide open for a header in the 91st minute.
I'm certainly looking forward to seeing more of Coleman in Everton's line-up next season, but let's hope the young man meantime takes a full schedule of classes at the Hibbert-Neville College of Defensive Positioning and Man-Marking. His experience today was priceless, but he clearly has much to learn before he takes full-time possession of a starting job at Everton.
Mike Gaynes, Posted 22/05/2010 at 16:47:24
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Defensively, he has a bit to learn; ball watches too much and looses players, and also gets too square on when players take him on and he has to throw himself in.
All-in-all, he could well develop into our first-choice full-back... but I suspect he'll have to wait another year.
I reckon Seamus should be tried IN FRONT of Hibbert or Neville as a Landon Donovan type as he could well fulfill the gap we have on the wide left since Landon went back to the USA.
We still would have Anichebe if things were not going well as an alternative.
Hows about Howard; Neville, Jags, Heitinga and Baines; with Coleman, Fellaini, Arteta and Pienaar; Osman/Cahill and either Yak or Saha up front? I think this would work plus our bench would have any of the following; Mucha, Cahill, Yak, Anichebe, Bily, Rodwell, Hibbert, Yobo, Distin and Gosling.
I'd rather be patient with him, let him learn what he needs to learn defensively, and watch him turn into a star — in another year or two, as Mike Oates said.
He could then return to Everton hopefully a much improved player ahead of the 2011-12 season (or make a January return half-way through next season).
As much as I'd like to see him coming on and changing the odd game, a la Tottenham last season, I suspect his long-term prospects would really benefit from a season as Blackpool's first-choice right-back... where he will no doubt get to do a lot of defending!
There's no chance Moyes will play him as our first-choice right-back and I would like to see how he stands up to regular Premier League testing.
By the way, is anybody else worried about our club captain's form this season? He was never a Cafu or a Gary Stevens, but before his injury early last season he was a solid and dependable player and motivator. Since he's returned from injury he looks a shadow of his former self. I was at the Fulham game at Goodison and he really looked out of his depth. Jags was ruling the roost at the back, not Pip.
Getting back to Coleman, I can see Moyes's plan being if the opposition is weak down the left side, send in the Sligo Speedster. (I claim patent on that by the way!) If we need to keep their left winger quiet, Hibbo's yer man. If injuries happen — we're screwed! ;-)
In conclusion, I'd be phasing out Phil Neville this season (and I'll stick my head out and say he'll be gone in January), keep Hibbo with Jags as back-up RB, let Coleman play the first half of the season at Blackpool and get him back (injuries permitting) for the New Year when we'll hopefully be pushing for a European place... preferably with Moutinho and Petrov in the side, as well as Pienaar and Arteta. :)
Our squad is thin! Enough with players playing out of position all the time. Keep him here!
Coleman will learn a lot faster playing every game for Blackpool than making occasional cameo appearances for us. And he needs to make his mistakes... better that he makes them at Blackpool. We saw last season what an early-season leaky defense can cost us. And if Alex is right and Pip's time is running out, then you bring Coleman back at midseason.
But what do I know?
I am sure Moyes will have his own ideas on what position is the lad's best, and the experience at Blackpool will have done him no harm. I look forward to see if the lad grabs a place next season. He has the talent, just needs the coaches to do the business.
But when Prem clubs start hitting them with 100 mph end-to-end counter attacks, it is going to make life very difficult for the full backs and pretty near impossible to learn any proper positional play or defensive skills; he is constantly going to be sprinting up and down the field following the ball.
You have to remember that he's come from playing with Sligo Rovers — he needs top level experience and we're in a position were we can blood him without putting ourselves at risk. Let the boy play football.
I just can't see Moyes giving him a go unless he gets Premier League experience and the quickest way that's likely to happen is to loan him to Blackpool, though they possibly wouldn't want a right back who comes with a return clause.
Agree 100% with you. I'm really pleased for Coleman and his attacking game looks great. However, the game yesterday showed he has still got a lot to learn on his defensive side which is his main task in the team.
I would prefer him to stay on loan and gain some more valuable experience because as many have said he will benefit more by playing a full season with Blackpool than a dozen sub appearances with us.
He was skinned by Chopra yesterday for Cardiff's 2nd goal. I'd rather he was back with us next season learning the Hibbert way of defending to go along with his attacking prowess.
Mike, our defense was shambolic last season at times. I hardly think Coleman could do any worse! Attack after all is the best form of defense.
From our point of view, he gains Premier League experience without the inevitable early mistakes costing us points, we will have fewer games before Christmas as we are not in the Europa League and he can be called back in the event of emergency.
I also think that Moyesy should offer to loan them their pick of Duffy, Ruddy, Jutk..., Baxter, James Vaughan and maybe even Anichebe if he is not getting into the first team. None of them are likely to get a game and without the Europa League there will be fewer games and therefore probably fewer injuries. That kind of experience would also be endlessly better for them than reserve football. If any of them are a success we can simply recall them from the loan - it's win-win really.
What is it that Pip does best?
I am also one that does not see DM giving Coleman any games other than League Cup ties against Division 2 opponents so give him another loan and let him learn the hard/only way.
In 12 months time, DM will be forced to make him at least second choice behind Hibbo unlees he finds someone else!
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