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Congratulations, Coleman!

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What an extraordinary day this was for our young star Seamus Coleman... victory at Wembley, where so few players are fortunate enough to tread, let alone win. Coleman looked fully worthy -- he was completely poised in the ultimate pressure cooker (and a very hot one today!). He was calm on the ball and fearless in attack, and it was his quick, sharp move in from the right touchline that triggered Ormerod's gamewinner. And he made the last two critical clearances in the final seconds that helped preserve Blackpool's promotion to heaven.

However, it must also be said that Coleman's defensive inexperience was also fully on display. He was caught completely flatfooted by Ledley's obvious angled run for Cardiff's second goal (you could see it coming 20 yards away), and he repeatedly drifted while marking. His head was turned when Ledley popped up wide open for a header in the 91st minute.

I'm certainly looking forward to seeing more of Coleman in Everton's line-up next season, but let's hope the young man meantime takes a full schedule of classes at the Hibbert-Neville College of Defensive Positioning and Man-Marking. His experience today was priceless, but he clearly has much to learn before he takes full-time possession of a starting job at Everton.
Mike Gaynes, California     Posted 22/05/2010 at 16:47:24

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Dave Wilson
1   Posted 22/05/2010 at 19:15:40

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Agreed.
Joe McMahon
2   Posted 22/05/2010 at 19:35:12

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Mike, I just hope he doesn't take passing tips from Neviile!
Giles Larkman
3   Posted 22/05/2010 at 19:31:11

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A timely reminder as to what a defender's job is; but a hearty congratulations to what Seamus has achieved this season. For next season, a few games and an understudy role, much the way Rodwell has been learning. Overall, well impressed the boy has helped Blackpool make it to the Premier League.
Brendan O'Doherty
4   Posted 22/05/2010 at 19:37:37

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Great game until the defences wised up in the 2nd half. I was wondering if Coleman's performance would be affected by his mate Duffy's overnight serious incident, but it seemed not to be. Great going forward - needs to tighten up defensively. But overall a great experience to go to Wembley and lift a trophy.
Alex Marsh Nikas
5   Posted 22/05/2010 at 19:44:35

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Could not have said it better myself, Mike; congrats to Seamus and Blackpool!
James Stewart
6   Posted 22/05/2010 at 19:58:47

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Hibbert, yes... but I really hope he does not take any classes at the Neville College of Defensive Positioning and Man-Marking. Our great leader's positioning this season was dire!
Mike Oates
7   Posted 22/05/2010 at 21:52:06

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His attacking is a real threat to the opposition – so much so that Cardiff always ensured that Peter Whittingham was wide covering Coleman .

Defensively, he has a bit to learn; ball watches too much and looses players, and also gets too square on when players take him on and he has to throw himself in.

All-in-all, he could well develop into our first-choice full-back... but I suspect he'll have to wait another year.
Trevor Lynes
8   Posted 22/05/2010 at 22:54:18

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Bale has now developed into a great left wingback and has a genuine fullback behind him at Spurs... Bale is also very suspect defensively and playing the 'real' fullback behind him gives him the freedom to attack and express himself.

I reckon Seamus should be tried IN FRONT of Hibbert or Neville as a Landon Donovan type as he could well fulfill the gap we have on the wide left since Landon went back to the USA.

We still would have Anichebe if things were not going well as an alternative.
Hows about Howard; Neville, Jags, Heitinga and Baines; with Coleman, Fellaini, Arteta and Pienaar; Osman/Cahill and either Yak or Saha up front? I think this would work plus our bench would have any of the following; Mucha, Cahill, Yak, Anichebe, Bily, Rodwell, Hibbert, Yobo, Distin and Gosling.

Mike Gaynes
9   Posted 23/05/2010 at 00:04:47

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Trev, I'd hate to see that... I think it would be a mistake to turn a potentially world-class attacking defender into a pretty good midfielder. We gave plenty of midfield depth, and I don't know if Coleman has the blazing Donovan-type pace or the finishing ability we need from an outside attacking midfielder.

I'd rather be patient with him, let him learn what he needs to learn defensively, and watch him turn into a star — in another year or two, as Mike Oates said.
Thor Sørensen
10   Posted 23/05/2010 at 00:29:34

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Maybe he'd be better off playing a full season in the Prem with Blackpool and getting lots of Premier League experience under his belt rather than a handful of appearances at Goodison.
He could then return to Everton hopefully a much improved player ahead of the 2011-12 season (or make a January return half-way through next season).
Sam Hoare
11   Posted 23/05/2010 at 00:53:02

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Think i might agree, Thor.

As much as I'd like to see him coming on and changing the odd game, a la Tottenham last season, I suspect his long-term prospects would really benefit from a season as Blackpool's first-choice right-back... where he will no doubt get to do a lot of defending!

There's no chance Moyes will play him as our first-choice right-back and I would like to see how he stands up to regular Premier League testing.
Tony J Williams
12   Posted 23/05/2010 at 01:09:16

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Thor, I have been saying the same to my mates all night. He will be guaranteed 38 games next season if he stays with Blackpool (barring injury) and will have so much Premier League action it can only be beneficial to him.
James Stewart
13   Posted 23/05/2010 at 01:21:59

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Can't believe you lot want him out on loan again for a whole season! What the hell for? Our squad is hardly anything more than paper thin and a few injuries could and probably will (if history is anything to go by) cripple us. We simply do not have the depth to be loaning Premier League quality players out. It would be idiotic.
Mike Gaynes
14   Posted 23/05/2010 at 03:17:15

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James, we're two deep at right back, three if you count Heitinga... and Coleman needs more games than he'll get here. I vote with Tony, Thor and Sam... not that we have a real say in the matter, right?
Alex Robinson
15   Posted 23/05/2010 at 04:01:22

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Best thing to do is let Coleman go out on loan till the new year, but have a clause in the contract to recall him if/when we get short. You get the best of both worlds that way — Coleman gets first-team Premier League experience, but we get him back if Hibbert or Neville get crocked.

By the way, is anybody else worried about our club captain's form this season? He was never a Cafu or a Gary Stevens, but before his injury early last season he was a solid and dependable player and motivator. Since he's returned from injury he looks a shadow of his former self. I was at the Fulham game at Goodison and he really looked out of his depth. Jags was ruling the roost at the back, not Pip.

Getting back to Coleman, I can see Moyes's plan being if the opposition is weak down the left side, send in the Sligo Speedster. (I claim patent on that by the way!) If we need to keep their left winger quiet, Hibbo's yer man. If injuries happen — we're screwed! ;-)

In conclusion, I'd be phasing out Phil Neville this season (and I'll stick my head out and say he'll be gone in January), keep Hibbo with Jags as back-up RB, let Coleman play the first half of the season at Blackpool and get him back (injuries permitting) for the New Year when we'll hopefully be pushing for a European place... preferably with Moutinho and Petrov in the side, as well as Pienaar and Arteta. :)

James Stewart
16   Posted 23/05/2010 at 05:32:50

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Mike, I don't count Heitinga. He is integral and needs to be in the centre. I don't count Jagielka as back-up either as he looks really awkward there! And again needs to be in the centre. Nor do I count our great leader as he is useless, full stop. That leaves Hibbert as our only decent RB.

Our squad is thin! Enough with players playing out of position all the time. Keep him here!

Mike Gaynes
17   Posted 23/05/2010 at 06:35:44

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James, we'll just have to disagree on Pip... and Moyes does too, since Pip was starting ahead of Hibbert... but I think you're missing the point everybody's making.

Coleman will learn a lot faster playing every game for Blackpool than making occasional cameo appearances for us. And he needs to make his mistakes... better that he makes them at Blackpool. We saw last season what an early-season leaky defense can cost us. And if Alex is right and Pip's time is running out, then you bring Coleman back at midseason.

But what do I know?

Norman Merrill
18   Posted 23/05/2010 at 07:07:46

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Mike, I mentioned on a previous slot that I was not sure of Coleman's best position; I feel that his strengths are going forward, he has great close control, and is not frightened to attack opposing defenders with reasonable pace.

I am sure Moyes will have his own ideas on what position is the lad's best, and the experience at Blackpool will have done him no harm. I look forward to see if the lad grabs a place next season. He has the talent, just needs the coaches to do the business.

Andrew Ellams
19   Posted 23/05/2010 at 10:09:40

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I agree that Seamus would benefit from time on loan at a Premier League club where he will get more games than he will at Everton, but I'm not sure that club is Blackpool. Holloway's style is very much gung-ho and Seamus's attacking ability is integral in this.

But when Prem clubs start hitting them with 100 mph end-to-end counter attacks, it is going to make life very difficult for the full backs and pretty near impossible to learn any proper positional play or defensive skills; he is constantly going to be sprinting up and down the field following the ball.

Alan McGuffog
20   Posted 23/05/2010 at 11:11:26

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Have United / Arsenal / Chelsea / Hull put their bids in for him yet ?
Ernie Baywood
21   Posted 23/05/2010 at 11:55:14

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Have to agree with the comments about loaning him out. He's not the messiah... just yet.

You have to remember that he's come from playing with Sligo Rovers — he needs top level experience and we're in a position were we can blood him without putting ourselves at risk. Let the boy play football.
Stuart O'Malley
22   Posted 23/05/2010 at 11:57:28

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Sorry to Alex (#15), Seamus is actually a Donegal lad so Sligo Speedster wont do. How about Donegal Dynamo?!
Joel Webb
23   Posted 23/05/2010 at 07:16:29

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If Coleman stays at Blackpool, will he get coaching or guidance from Everton staff or is his development all down to the Tangerines?
Martin Clark
24   Posted 23/05/2010 at 10:21:51

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I think he'll learn more playing for Blackpool than our reserves as Moyes is unlikely to gamble when he needs to find somewhere on the pitch for Neville. If they have a recall clause then it's no-lose.

I just can't see Moyes giving him a go unless he gets Premier League experience and the quickest way that's likely to happen is to loan him to Blackpool, though they possibly wouldn't want a right back who comes with a return clause.

Richard Dodd
25   Posted 23/05/2010 at 13:34:08

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Blackpool`s defence would have conceded six against Premier League opposition and Coleman got skinned far too easily for me. Having said that, he reminds me more and more of Gareth Bale and may well turn out to be the answer to our right-side attacking problem. That would leave Captain Pip to concentrate on what he does best.
David Thomas
26   Posted 23/05/2010 at 14:16:35

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Mike,

Agree 100% with you. I'm really pleased for Coleman and his attacking game looks great. However, the game yesterday showed he has still got a lot to learn on his defensive side which is his main task in the team.

I would prefer him to stay on loan and gain some more valuable experience because as many have said he will benefit more by playing a full season with Blackpool than a dozen sub appearances with us.

Brendan O'Doherty
27   Posted 23/05/2010 at 14:38:49

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Surely the point is that he needs to improve the defensive part of his game, which he's not going to do at Blackpool with their 4-3-3 set-up. They're going to concede loads of goals in the PL playing like that, and Coleman would be part of it.

He was skinned by Chopra yesterday for Cardiff's 2nd goal. I'd rather he was back with us next season learning the Hibbert way of defending to go along with his attacking prowess.

James Stewart
28   Posted 23/05/2010 at 14:17:28

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What exactly does he do best, Richard? I do agree with your comparison to Bale. They are very similar and I would love to see Moyes use him the way Redknapp has done with Bale. I would rather see him in front of Hibbert though personally.

Mike, our defense was shambolic last season at times. I hardly think Coleman could do any worse! Attack after all is the best form of defense.
Andy Crooks
29   Posted 23/05/2010 at 16:45:43

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Richard Dodd, worryingly I find myself in agreement with you once again. Which of us has mellowed?
Kevin Gillen
30   Posted 23/05/2010 at 19:34:23

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Great work Seamus Coleman! Balckpool played some really good football. They have one or two good players, notably Adam and another ex Everton man Keith Southern, so glad for him. I'm in two minds on the loan situation but really I think he should start for us in some of the games. Well done again to Moyes, his judicious use of loans has added value to Jutkiewicz, Ruddy and Coleman and demonstarted they weren't recruited for nothing!
Dan Walshe
31   Posted 23/05/2010 at 20:33:49

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I agree that he should be allowed to go back to Blackpool on loan until January. He will cost them nothing which will suit them obviously, he has already helped them gain promotion and he carries an attacking threat which they badly need.

From our point of view, he gains Premier League experience without the inevitable early mistakes costing us points, we will have fewer games before Christmas as we are not in the Europa League and he can be called back in the event of emergency.

I also think that Moyesy should offer to loan them their pick of Duffy, Ruddy, Jutk..., Baxter, James Vaughan and maybe even Anichebe if he is not getting into the first team. None of them are likely to get a game and without the Europa League there will be fewer games and therefore probably fewer injuries. That kind of experience would also be endlessly better for them than reserve football. If any of them are a success we can simply recall them from the loan - it's win-win really.
Dominic Duerden
32   Posted 24/05/2010 at 08:05:01

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The last thing Coleman should do is listen to anything Hibbo has to say. What a load of nonsense. Send Hibbo out on loan next season and let's have Coleman as back-up to Phil.
Tony J Williams
33   Posted 24/05/2010 at 09:50:03

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Dominic, are you suggesting that Hibbert doesn't know how to defend?
Brian Garside
34   Posted 24/05/2010 at 22:35:30

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Er Richard. Just what is that exactly?
What is it that Pip does best?

I am also one that does not see DM giving Coleman any games other than League Cup ties against Division 2 opponents so give him another loan and let him learn the hard/only way.

In 12 months time, DM will be forced to make him at least second choice behind Hibbo unlees he finds someone else!
Jon Cox
35   Posted 25/05/2010 at 18:22:34

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I can't see the problem. Here's how it goes: Tottingham qualify for the Champions League. There are 16 clubs worse than them. Coleman destroyed them on the right mid. Therefore, until we get Landon or someone else then for me get Coleman at attacking right mid next season. If you're good enough, you're old enough.

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