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A lot of posts are commenting on media speculation concerning our players and in some cases our manager.

Next season, IMO and with our current squad, it will be Everton that will have the top four looking over their shoulders. We know it but so do the top four clubs, as well as City, Villa and the once almighty Liverpool.

Now the best way to fuck all that good work up is to buy their best players, and if possible pinch their manager, and the media are doing what their masters want by stating that Arteta, Pienaar, Rodwell, Heitinga, Jags, Rodwell, Yak, Fellaini & Baines are all wanted by bigger and better clubs (I have seen reference to all these players being linked with other clubs).

Basically guys we have a cracking team and we are going to have to live with the media speculation. Man Utd had it with Ronaldo and now Rooney, Arsenal now have it with Fabregas and Spurs have it with Bale and Modic. Do you people not think that it’s fucking brilliant that we have the same media speculation for so many of our players, that’s because we have the players that other teams want!

Journalists sell papers and will print a sentence in any manner that will sell their papers, maybe twisting a word or two here or there. In particular reference to Heitinga, the guy plays for Everton and is contracted to Everton but more importantly he gives 100 percent effort on the pitch, until that scenario ends, he will always have my full support.
Mike Gwyer, North Wales     Posted 04/06/2010 at 11:24:38

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Micky Norman
1   Posted 04/06/2010 at 15:17:05

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I've had enough of it already and the season's barely finished. From now I am going into football "lent" for the sake of my own sanity. From now until the season starts I hereby vow

1. not to read the sports pages of a newspaper
2. not to read ToffeeWeb or Bluekipper and
3. count the hours till the season starts.

Micky Norman
2   Posted 04/06/2010 at 15:28:46

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When do we kick off?
Michael Lynch
3   Posted 04/06/2010 at 15:36:30

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The issue I have about all the crap the media spout is the downright disrespect our club is shown because we don't have a billionaire benefactor. It seems like they see us as just another Blackburn or Bolton (no disrespect). Only this morning on Talk Shite, they were touting Moyes for Liverpool. What the fuck?

I reckon the media is overrun with red shites, a lot of the glory-hunting public schoolboys from the 70s and 80s must now be journalists and they are making sure we never get any credit at all unless it's insulting bullshit about us punching above our weight when we finish fifth, like it's some sort of achievement for a club our size. Arrogant pricks.

The world has gone fucking mad when our own players are implying Manchester City are a bigger club than us.

If we can keep hold of our best players, we are going to roll some fucking heads next season. COYB.

Bradley Nolan
4   Posted 04/06/2010 at 16:20:39

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Couldn't agree more, our players are starting to attract the media's attention and imagination, but there has been no bids for any of opur players that I know of, unless someone can tell me otherwise. Some of the injury problems from last season may well be enough to keep us in the long grasses and away from the vultures. The first half of last season disguises us as contenders. I'm hopefull we can keep our best players and add a bit of cover. Without money, we may have to get lucky in the transfer market just one more time to make a real push.
Kevin Hudson
5   Posted 04/06/2010 at 16:37:12

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That's a great shout, Michael Lynch..
Tony J Williams
6   Posted 04/06/2010 at 17:23:55

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Unfortunately, Michael, on current standing it could be argued that they are. Higher finish, in Europe and a rich Sugar Daddy to buy whoever he can.
James Flynn
7   Posted 04/06/2010 at 17:37:26

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Mike G: — Great twist on this whole mess. Well done.

"If we can keep hold of our best players we are going to roll some fucking heads next season."

Michael Lynch — You too.
Dave Smith
8   Posted 04/06/2010 at 19:21:43

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Micky Norman:

http://www.evertonfc.com

Offical countdown clock!!!
Derek Thomas
9   Posted 05/06/2010 at 07:02:16

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The media is indeed over-run with redshites.

I watched a piece on ESPN... The Greatest, all about the World Cup greats.

Maradonna on the 'hand of God'... short version; gabbers off on Spanish 19 to the dozen (translated voice over) I knew I couldn't get it so I had a go with my hand, no one more surprised than me when it went in and when the Ref gave it... like I'm going to turn it down???

Then...

Beckenbaur...In German, translated voice over... This game, those goals and on to the Semi Final, the German lips say... the Semi-Final at EVERTON... translated voice over.... The semi Final in Liverpool... WTF!!... no wonder we're bitter
James Stewart
10   Posted 05/06/2010 at 09:49:10

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Hear, hear.
Mike McLean
11   Posted 05/06/2010 at 12:26:55

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Perhaps if our own players stop feeding the media feeding frenzy, there'll be less of it. And a happy consequence of that will be fewer conspiracy theory articles on this site.
Tom Harries
12   Posted 05/06/2010 at 16:52:52

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"Perhaps if our own players stop feeding the media feeding frenzy, there'll be less of it. And a happy consequence of that will be fewer conspiracy theory articles on this site."
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Trouble with that is, if the players don't talk to the media now, the media will simply dig up something they said several months ago and make it like they said it yesterday. And if necessary spin it out of all proportion. (You know the sort of thing, a dramatic headline with an innocuous quote in paragraph 4.)

And if the players don't say anything, there'll be even more conspiracy theories about why they're keeping their mouths shut!
Alex Kociuba
13   Posted 05/06/2010 at 17:17:10

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Would it not be more unusual if there WASN'T ridiculous rumours, lies, speculation at this stage in the year? Some people are acting surprised?
Charles King
14   Posted 05/06/2010 at 19:04:02

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I understand our players earn in the £40k- to £60k-a-week bracket whereas the successful clubs pay £100k+ a week to some of their players. I really don't see why people are surprised when we are seen as mid-table stepping stones by the media.
Mike McLean
15   Posted 06/06/2010 at 07:38:35

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I'd agree that in the case of football fans, there seems to be an overdeveloped part of the brain which I guess could be called the Centre of Gullibility. However, if the players didn't feed morsels, such as Heitinga, Pienaar, and Lescott did, there would be smoke which would blow away quite quickly.

"Our" players have a responsibility to quash rumours if they want to show loyalty to the Club, but that responsibility is not taken fully on board by some of them. In the case of Moyes, perhaps his months-long sulk re contract gave the hacks the idea that a suitable offer could see him gone.

Iain Love
16   Posted 06/06/2010 at 12:17:16

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Loyalty to the club is spoken about a lot on here because it's a fans forum. WE are loyal to our club because WE are fans. Players, managers even, might have a certain amount of loyalty to the club but their first loyalty is to themselves and their careers — and let no one forget that.

For example, Rooney — Once a Blue, Always a Blue — yet he left because as a player he could achieve / has achieved more with Manure than he would have with us. Money can come into it; which of you would not leave your current employers for double your money doing the same job??? "Ah but they get enough anyway", Ah, but don't be fucking stupid. They probably came to us in the first place for more money. Prestige / honours — that's what counts, we've not won fuck all for years.

We have some decent players that other teams would like; other teams have decent players that we would like — it's all about balancing things out. Moyes does have a knack of getting the right type of character into the side and slowly but surely we're getting better... Hopefully our players will see that and realise "Hey, we might be going places here... I think I'll give it another season or so." — a bit like Gerrard did with the Redshite... for longer than he should.

Fran Mitchell
17   Posted 06/06/2010 at 12:37:47

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Just treat it all as comedy, a soap opera that – as much as it tries – holds no relevance to the real world. It wants to be believable, serious and respectable, but it also needs ratings. One real transfer story a week doesn't cut the mustard, especiallly when that is a an average German signing for West Ham. So, all of a sudden Everton are linked with Cardozo for £30 million?!? Hahahaha!

In the Guardian, I read Arteta for £8 million! Hahahahaha!

Eventually that serious soap takes the path of Brookside in desperation. Hard-hitting at the start, with quotes, sources etc... then they get desperate...

"MOYES TO LIVERPOOL"

Treat it all as a soap and you feel much better about it all. The Guardian rumour mill is quite a good antidote, gives the rumour fix while also telling you how bullshit it all is at the same time, especially when Barnay Ronay is the author.
Martin Mason
18   Posted 06/06/2010 at 14:57:38

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I never use Rooney as an example because Everton could never keep a stellar talent like him, couldn't now and in the end even United won't be able to because Barcelona and Real will offer money that Ferguson will take. Will Rooney turn such a move down? He was a stellar talent by the time he went to United btw and we gave him away.

Regarding the other mercenaries, such as Lescott, who want to move for gain even though they are under contract, then clubs should force them to stay unless they get stupid Citeh money, like they did for him. Looking back, it was almost like legalised theft, brilliant management.

NOTW reported on Citeh bidding for Pienaar. I really have no problem with him moving on for the big money and Everton surely have to sell if they get a good price.

Ste Traverse
19   Posted 06/06/2010 at 17:30:32

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Derek, I can't believe you got all wound up over that, as it was in Liverpool!!
Chad Schofield
20   Posted 06/06/2010 at 17:42:57

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Spot on.
Brian Denton
21   Posted 06/06/2010 at 20:41:39

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Ste (Post #19)

Surely the point of an interpreter is to translate what is actually said, not for the interpreter to put a more 'correct' version in. I didn't see the interview in question, but if it is right that Beckenbauer said 'Everton' it would indicate that to this giant of world football, the word 'Everton' meant something different to 'Liverpool'. Otherwise he would have said 'Liverpool'.

This ''water off a duck's back'' and ''Jesus, some Evertonians are paranoid'' approach is all very well, but if we are not prepared to defend the historic standing of our club then why should anyone else (eg journalists, the BBC etc) be bothered?
Brendan O'Doherty
22   Posted 06/06/2010 at 23:27:08

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"In the case of Moyes, perhaps his months-long sulk re contract gave the hacks the idea that a suitable offer could see him gone."

Moyes delayed the signing of his last contract due to legal issues being sorted out - principally what his position entailed if there were to be new owners. To describe it as a 'sulk' is completely disrespectful and disingenuous.

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