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After seeing us linked with several players already but signing nobody as yet, not to mention the disappointment of recent close-seasons, it?s fair to see why many blues are negative about transfer activity at Goodison.

However, have we actually heard anything about the outcome of the ?chat with the chairman?? They?ve not come out and said that we have no budget, they?ve simply allowed us to judge based on the recent past and our inherent (justified IMHO) negativity.

In contrast, Tim Howard said in a recent interview that ?big players? were coming in and that the squad would be seeing some new faces. I have a feeling we may just be pleasantly surprised by who comes in through the doors. May not be marquee signings, but if we land any of N?zogbia, Canales, Ba, Djalo or Defour then I?d be very chuffed indeed.

We need striking reinforcements and a pacy replacement for Pienaar primarily though. It wouldn?t surprise me if we get any of the abovementioned, I believe they are all reasonably realistic. Moyes has a reputation for signing young players and developing them and although N?Zogbia and to a lesser extent Ba are proven Premiership players, the rest fit that description and are more realistic. For me, Klose was never on the radar (Moyes does not sign old players as a rule ? Distin and a few other exceptions).

I?m no apologist, nor a ?Doddy? (sorry Doddy, nothing personal mate ;), and am well aware of Moyes? limitations, but I for one am slightly optimistic that we will get some quality in. If we identify the correct signings and get them in, with what we already have, then next season could still be one to remember (okay, the happy pills are wearing off now...)

David Gallant, South Africa     Posted 13/06/2011 at 14:54:52

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James Greem
1   Posted 13/06/2011 at 20:03:22

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You know what, I'd love for you to be right and with normal stories there's usually no smoke without fire, however transfer gossip is usually 97% shite..
On the otherhand, when Moyes comments about the possibility of going to Villa with 'new challenges for next season, blah blah...' you have to think either he genuinely wants a new challenge or that he's putting Kenwright in a position where he has to back his manager to some extent. Moyes has kept Kenwright out of all sorts of troubles by working to a shockingly small budget and although Kenwright is poor chairman and even worse businessman he's not completely stupid.
Also, we've saved fortunes in wages with all the loanees, got a couple of fees in, tv money has gone up again and there's also the possibility of a big sale, so I hope theres money there.
Then again I'm an eternal pessimist masquerading as an optimist and I remember last pre-season, oh and the one before that, ad infinitum!
Dan McKie
2   Posted 13/06/2011 at 20:10:46

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David, you're right that we haven't exactly been privvy to the minutes of the meeting (which may or may not have actually happened), but Moyes has repeatedly said that money is tight and not to believe speculation on transfers. Why would the newspapers or random foreign websites have any idea what was going on inside Everton, and who Moyes/Elstone etc. have been calling with enquires for players? I do hope you are right and we do get some of the names mentioned, but this close season has been no different than any other with regards to speculation, money or no money.
Jeremy Benson
3   Posted 13/06/2011 at 20:15:16

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I've said this before, and I'll say it again.

Why on earth would the outcome of the "chat" be made public?

Why on earth would we announce that we have nothing/£3 million/£30 million to spend?

No other club does it. We'd be fools to announce to all and sundry what we have to spend and negotiate with.

I understand that everton fans are naturally curious. But seriously, get real. Accept that its not under your control.
Gavin Ramejkis
4   Posted 13/06/2011 at 22:16:55

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Baaaaaaaa, if you believe for one second that after 12 years, yes 12 years, Kenshite and his useless shithouse board have suddenly dipped into their own pockets to fund transfers you are deluded. Unless Moyes sells first team players and Kenshite takes his slice for the mysterious "operating costs" which have grown way beyond trivial amounts then there won't be any signings. The media are bored and trying to sell papers, nothing more, nothing less. Unless you see a player holding up an Everton shirt in the papers at GP then believe nothing.
Peter Webster
5   Posted 13/06/2011 at 22:42:09

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If we do sign anyone it'll be at the end of the transfer window, after the TV money comes in. Anything generated by outgoing sales will go straight to the bank, just like the Pienaar money.
Do yourselves a favour - go on holiday and forget the transfer window.
Jamie Sweet
6   Posted 13/06/2011 at 22:14:20

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Let's face it, the January transfer window was a disgrace. We were just above the relegation zone, and we depleted our playing squad rather than strengthening it.

Our chairman / manager took a gamble on our future by leaving us with one fit striker and no natural wingers. The gamble paid off to a certain extent, and our late season form made it easy for the decision makers to justify the decisions that were made. We dodged that perticular bullet.

A failure to improve our squad this summer would be another huge risk. We would risk losing our top players who have more ambition than being at a club which is seemingly happy with mid-table obscurity: We risk losing our manager (whether you see this as a good thing or not): and we risk losing the support of the most important people at the club, the fans.

Our Chairman needs to understand that standing still is not acceptable. He can't dodge the bullets forever.
Trevor Lynes
7   Posted 13/06/2011 at 22:47:42

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We tend to sign players who are not bid for elsewhere...every time it is a number of clubs including ours showing interest in someone we lose out !!
Now Charlie Adam is touted as going to Liverpool even though he was a target for us........ ??
When we signed Felli, Bily and Heitinga there were no other interested parties !! I reckon that we will wait until the dust settles and miss the boat !!
Stewart Oakes
8   Posted 13/06/2011 at 23:41:44

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can i just point out one thing, we can't sign anybody till 1st July.
David Gallant
9   Posted 14/06/2011 at 00:09:44

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Gavin, I'm well aware of what's gone before mate, but agree with James Sweet that things are coming to a head. Moyes has, to my mind, played hard (ish) ball with Kenwright by telling the media about this 'chat' and that he will decided what to do thereafter. Surely if BK said 'there's no money Davey' yet again, then Moyes would have considered his options and not declared that he's going nowhere. No, I think (despite past failings, and maybe naively so) that we actually do have some money this time, but as pointed out by Jeremy, why oh why would the club come out and announce the budget? That would simply drive prices up. No, better to continue the party line and get the best deals possible. Quite what the size of this budget is remains to be seen, but players like Canales (who would be an excellent loan signing and realistic given Moyes has a good (ish) relationship with the Special One and we've dealt with them on the Gravesen transfer), Long, N'Zogbia etc are the kind of players we need, not the Jay Boothroyds or Kloses of this world.
Gavin Ramejkis
10   Posted 14/06/2011 at 00:11:49

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Stewart, as per the BBC sport page:

"Although the transfer window formally opens on 1 July, domestic transfers between clubs in the same association (eg England or Scotland) can take place as soon as a club completes its last competitive 2010/11 fixtures.

However, many transfers or signings, although agreed and announced at this time, will not formally go through until 1 July because the majority of players' contracts expire on 30 June."
Brendan O'Doherty
11   Posted 14/06/2011 at 02:11:30

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Yeah spot on, many transfers have always happened in May and June before. Did I dream that Utd signed Jones today ?? Didn't we secure Johnson, Lescott, and Howard very soon after the 05/06 season ended ?

Can't believe people are still falling into the trap of believing there is money to spend. After last summer's net spend of £0, this summer will be even worse; i.e. a player will have to be sold to fund any incoming transfers, and even then a large portion of the fee will go to the banks. Surely people have learnt the lesson by now ?

Stewart Oakes
12   Posted 14/06/2011 at 07:26:36

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Thank you for that Gavin, that's a fact i wasn't aware of.
Sam Hoare
13   Posted 14/06/2011 at 09:34:40

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Lets be honest. we all have pretty low expectations for this transfer window.

If we end up with a couple of freebies and loans and one £5-8m signing i'll be content.

Trouble is the likes of Villa, Newcastle and Sunderland not to mention Spurs and Liverpool are gonna be chucking cash around.

Oh well...at least we have our integrity....right?

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