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Transfer Trash Talk #5
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So in my eyes Villa-Boas's arrival at Chelsea is likely to spell the end of Daniel Sturridge's first team chances there. With Torres a certain starter, Drogba and Anelka still there and Villa-Boas very likely to bring in Falcao or Neymar or both that doesn't leave alot of space for Sturridge. I think Moyes should make his loan signing a priority.
He was comfortably England's best player at the U21-Euros (not saying much); has pace, skill, strength and most importantly the ability to score a goal out of nothing. A trait we could desperately have done with last year.
If we can get him on loan, with Chelsea paying part of his wages, then hopefully, when he is forced to admit that he is unlikely to get guaranteed first team action at Chelsea, we will be his first choice.
The only downside would be that if he does really well with us this season that Chelsea might not let him go. But if the downside is us getting a 15-20 goal man this season then I'm happy.
The upside is that we could get one of the best young English strikers around to form a brilliant strike duo with Hallam Hope in 3 or 4 years time.
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Sam Hoare, Posted 22/06/2011 at 09:30:40
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hopefuly thats where he'll end up.
Also, isen't Sturridge on £75k a week at Chelsea? Even with Chelsea paying some of his wages, we still wouldn't be able to afford him.
I look at the transfer news each day (and night) and am becoming so frustrated at the lack of activity.
The official site is full of stupid reports of trivial items that only fuel my frustrations as I read of other clubs manouverings.
Will people realise we are not going to sign anyone with quality or of an age younger than 28 ish.
We are going to end up with cast offs and loans and all buisness will be done in the last week of the deadline.
This is the way we have done buisness for the past few seasons and nothing will change.
Lack of money and a dithering manager will see to this.
Don't put yourself through the wringer, it's not worth it. I have been guilty of it in the past myself and the anxiety it causes is not worth the hassle.
I still feel that if he does go out on loan, which seems very possible, then we should definitely be in the running. With Vaughan and Pienaar gone, Yobo and Yak packing their bags there must be some wages left over. Hope keeps me going. Even if its blind!
I think we have a decent side at present and are not a million miles away from having a very competitive side that could, with a following wind, pick up a trophy this season.
Agree with you Dave #5 but we still cant help ourselves desperately looking for some good news everyday.
Loads of rumours going around about this player and that player. Why are we so quiet in the market? After all, Moyes stated he wanted the transfer dealing done early this close season! Howard and other senior players were talking about "big signings"!
then i'd play 433 with fell, arteta and heit in the middle and sturridge n-zogbia and donovan up front.
On deadline day we will sign someone who will astonish us.......as no one will ever have heard of him or we will have thought he had retired at worst. or, was actually dead.
This summer will be a period of keeping the wage bill down. If possible cashing in on the loaned players and giving the money to the banks.This summer will define our future and we are terrifyingly dependent on Bill Kenwright.
Shandy Andy recalled from the Dog & Duck 4ths, to take Big Vics place on the right wing?
That's about my ambitions for this summer unless BK funds a pot to piss in..
We're signing nobody
Dave # 5 is unfortunately quite right and I must say I DO get so frustrated with the constant talk of having no money....where does it all go ?? We loan out more players each season and leave ourselves threadbare when we get injuries....luckily, Pienaar covered for Arteta very well and later Ozzie played as well as he ever has when he returned from injury....but we are getting bailed out each season and playing brinkmanship....
Our defence played very well and its no coincidence that Baines, Jags and Distin were our best players over the season.
Saha when fit is our best striker as he proved when he was the only striker we had who had a motm performance in ONE match all season.
1. Aston Villa - how about the saga of their search for a new manager ? They could bring it out on dvd under the title " How Not to look for a Manager". They also look to be losing Ashley Young and possibly Stewart Downing.
2. Manchester United - surely not you say - well who is going to be their 1st choice goalkeeper next season? The venerable Sir Alex has known for months that Van der Saar was going to retire - any sign of a replacement for this key position ?
3. Arsenal - I wish I had a fiver for every time I've opened the sports pages and found a story as to whether or not Fabregas is going to Barcelona.
4. Newly promoted Swansea - team building ? Bringing in new players ? How about retaining the goalkeeper who has been one of the " mainstays " of the team in the last few seasons? He couldn't agree a new contract.
5. Sunderland - Gyan a great signing a few months ago - who can now leave!!
6. Tottenham - Modric to stay or go.
That's just a few examples of some of the situations at other clubs - what has it got to do with Everton ? Well as I said - sometimes it's good to look at other clubs - then you realise all is not perfect with other clubs as well.
Villa appointed McLeish nearly a week ago and if they sell Young and Downing, they'll have cash for the new manager to start building a side to suit him.
Man Utd are apparently bringing in de Gea, although nothing is signed yet - I think we can rest assured that they will be bringing in a quality keeper.
So Arsenal lose Fabregas to Barca, then have £35M to spend on players.... Wenger is pretty well known for getting a good return on investment.
Swansea - don't know too much but I'm not sure that a newly promoted side, that hasn't been in the top flight for as long as I can remember is necessarily a good yard-stick.
Sunderland have already made new signings and apparently have bid £8M for Wickham. I'd be very happy for Everton to have done the same... even if we lost a decent player in the meantime.
Tottenham - so Modric goes for many millions, they'll miss him, but will surely sign a couple of good players with the money. Spurs always have cash for players anyway and Harry has pulled a few rabbits out - van der Vaart at Spurs??! Really!?!
All that just to say, that we have no good strikers and no really good wingers. We have an ageing squad and the annual "we just need to keep the squad together" target will actually be a step backwards. We have no cash to be able to influence the situation, therefore a squad light on quality AND quantity is going to be diminished in order to be able to invest.
We know that we can't move forward with the players we have. Something has to change this summer and if that means losing 2 or 3 of our bankable assets, then so be it. Time to rebuild - this squad has had it's moment.
We are scrounging around for players and therefore those that want to get rid of players at any price before the window closes, we'll be in the market for, its like buying food items in the reduced sections in the supermarket.
I don't see too much transfer activity at all, perhaps just the one no mark player in and would not be at all surprised if we weren't to bring a striker in and instead have the Yak back.
Unfortunately good players cost me - WE DON'T HAVE. Good players also want top dollar - WE WILL NOT PAY.
Everton but for the grace of good fortune and players coming into form after xmas without serious injuries would have been well and truly screwed. How long would you be happy to cross everything you have hoping we dont get serious injuries in positions we have no cover for - Baines gets an Arteta or Jagielka type injury what happens? Beckford gets a serious injury then what happens? It's serious concern because some people care passionately about the club and in their view the team and manager can't keep performing get out of jail tricks forever.
Moyes has said all along he only wants to bring in players now who will improve the squad.
Granted, we need more numbers, and Larsson would have made them up, but as we know, Moyes sticks to his guns and will probably only be looking to bring in 'better' players than we currently have.
Back to OP, we should definitely make getting Sturridge on loan a priority, and I doubt he is on £75,000 p/w either.
I am hoping Moyes has a few jokers up his sleeve which he is waiting until the first week of July to play, because he knows, and we know, that we can't afford to stand still again for another season
"Man Utd are apparently bringing in de Gea, although nothing is signed yet - I think we can rest assured that they will be bringing in a quality keeper." Well apparently not according to this weeks papers!!! And with regard to bringing in a replacement keeper - they have had long enough knowing that Van der Saar was going to retire - I seem to remember an Italian goalkeeper they signed who was going to be the the replacement for Schmeichel - Sir Alex didn't exactly get it right then did he - oh what about Djemba Djemba - that great midfield dynamo ??!!
It's not how much you spend the money that counts it's if you get value for money. If it was about how much you spent then Chelsea would have done the double again last season - £50M for Torres the biggest transfer of the season. About £50M more than we paid for Beckford - who did the better deal ?
As I said it ,does you good sometimes to look at other clubs and Richard you say Wenger will spend the £35M wisely. Much as I admire AW - he has certainly come in for a lot of criticism this year - haven't you heard of the goalkeeping crisis at Arsenal - they had to resort to bring back Lehmann ?!!!
Sunderland have made signings - but they lost Henderson to Liverpool and last season's "golden boy" Gyan looks to be surpus to requirements. They may have did £8M for Wickham - but didn't Ipswich turn down a similar bid from Liverpool ?
Back in 1966 - we signed one of the best players in our history a matter of a few days before the start of the season - Alan Ball. Yes a different era - but let's remember it's still June - and not every club in the PL has done all their "recruitment"- there are several clubs yet to bring anyone in.
The point is that regardless of what's going on at other clubs Everton's position is dire, uncomparable with the small issues that you highlight in your post, and with the current set of parameters we're slowly dying as any kind of top flight club. It's a bit premature to talk about the Championship yet, but give it 5 years with no real change.....
Gavin - as you seem to know where the money for the various players has gone e.g. Pienaar maybe you can use your insight to tell me and the many other Public Sector workers there are where Mr "We're All In this Together "Osbourne is going to put the pension money that he is intending to take from us.
The tories and labour did fuck all to regulate the banks, ask yourself why places like Iceland jailed their bankers and told them as private companies to sort out their own shit instead of tax payer bail outs whereas the UK got shitloads of tax payers money the head of the largest corporate loss in UK history Fred the Shred not only didn't get jailed but got a golden handshake pension in the region of half a million pound a year, I guess that answers me knowing where your money and mine as tax payers has gone but not why Everton have been ran so poorly as a business as the UK banking economy had nothing to do with the Bear Stearns millstone or KD or DK.
Anyway back to the reality of Everton - and talking of reality having just had a quick look at the BBC Football website it is dire reading again for Evertonians. All the big deals seem to be being done by Manchester United - with Modric now being mentioned. I remember the time when it was Everton who would be making the headines. back in February/March 1974 there was the Bob Latchfoord transfer and then later in the year ( in early 1974-75 season I think) Martin Dobson. Heady days indeed - around the same time I think Man United were signing the likes of Wyn Davies and Jim Holton.
Times have changed - but we have known that for a number of years now. And I really thibk we need to be realistic about Everton's activities in the transfer market. We can't compete against the likes of Man United - so we should try to. Even Spurs will be hard pushed to keep hold of Modric and Bale. And remember they lost Berbatov to Man United and the lure of Champions League football. The signing of Fellaini - whilst we gained a very good player - only served to perpetuate the myth that Everton could compete with the big spenders in the transfer market. At the moment we can't- that's the reality of the situation.
It's all very well saying that money can't solve everything, or that some teams spent loads but did shit. That's their problem and the owners of the clubs might want to look into that. On the flip side, if we don't have money, how can we possibly fill the gaping holes in the squad?
The teams you mention have the tools to go out and solve their problems, it's up to them to put them to good use. Their issues, such as we might lose a player here or we need a replacement there is nothing compared to the issue of a small, ageing, increasingly ineffective squad and the fact that Moyes has nothing at his disposal to solve these problems is the big difference.
All I seem to come across are negative stories about how broke we are and which players we are going to sell. Does anyone actually know of or have any idea what is happening regarding transfers? Or even just a positive rumour!?!
I know many people reading this would think "No way, we wouldn't have a good left back," but a good way of sealing a deal would be offering Baines to Arsenal for Clichy plus £5-10 million. I have always admired Clichy as a player and I think that his style of play will fit in well with us.
Making a Twansfer
No a Twansfer is not a Woy Hodgson signing...
Interview with the Yeovil Manager Terry Skiverton about how their transfer of former Everton protege Kieran Agard was done by Twitter - hence the first Twansfer.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13902307.stm
So all you tweeps out there, get on there, there must be a chance of getting a few players in seeing as we're potless? Talk them into to signing for nothing, no fee, preferably no wages...
ps: For those of you who can't get through the day without regular doses of blues related bullshit here's the link:
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/?search=everton&searchheadlines=1
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