Demba Ba, Boothroyd, etc... Why are we looking at forwards when a blind man can see we need a ball-winning midfielder? The above mentioned are clearly no better than the Yak.
We need a player who can sit in front of the back four, who can win the ball for the attacking midfielders and also protect our defence.
Fellaini is not the answer: too slow, cannot tackle. Rodwell? From a centre-half to a box-to-box midfielder...??? I feel a bit sorry for the lad but he could be the answer.
It was there for all to see, when Neville played in that position at the back end of the season... so, in my opinion, this is our problem area; and ? if we can sort it ? I'm telling you, we will be right up there.
Colin Malone, Posted 22/06/2011 at 09:53:09
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1 Posted 22/06/2011 at 15:18:38
2 Posted 22/06/2011 at 15:18:28
Anyone who knows anything about football can see we are crying out for pace on the wings (and in general) and someone to put the ball in the net. You say we need a ball winner to pass to our attacking midfielders, the problem being that we don?t have any. Osman and Arteta are creative but are not real attacking midfielders. Mister N?Zogbia on the other hand very much is.
Although I do agree that Ba was no big loss and Boothroyd is not the answer.
3 Posted 22/06/2011 at 15:38:26
4 Posted 22/06/2011 at 15:44:14
The likes of Bothroyd and Mackail Smith can't even lace his boots though. We would only be interested in them cos they are free.
5 Posted 22/06/2011 at 15:48:00
6 Posted 22/06/2011 at 15:44:19
With the right players being sold i feel this could be feesable with Konchesky as backup left back.
7 Posted 22/06/2011 at 15:51:11
8 Posted 22/06/2011 at 15:37:02
I think there's much truth in what Colin has written and some danger in Jons comments.
Last game of the season against Chelsea Ancelotti had us sussed. Bombing on up the flanks (er ok flank....left one) with Bainsey providing the dink into the middle is something everyone has seen us do....Bainsey's stats prove how often we do that.
Ancelotti put a man on Baines (Essien if memory serves) to charge him down when Howard rolled it out to him. Wasn't completely successful, but, is something we can expect to see more of if we are too predictable with the wing play.
Last season Arteta seemed to be sitting a bit deep to collect the ball and try to make a pass out wide.....injury and a lack of form screwed things up but he's wasted back there anyway. I'd prefer him a bit further up the pitch, looking for a good forward pass from the defensive midfielder, using his awareness to pick out the pass to the striker. Beckford seems quite able to put himself in nice spaces to take the ball on....just seems to flap a bit sometimes when he has it.
Fellaini is quality raw material is decent in the tackle and has pretty good close control, but, I think he's still got work to do on his passing game.
9 Posted 22/06/2011 at 16:12:10
10 Posted 22/06/2011 at 16:13:37
Every man and his dog knows we need one or two decent strikers. Our start to the season last year would have been different if we'd had someone who can stick the ball in the net.
Until we offload Yak and Yobo we're not going to bring one in. The Yaks situation is the most worrying as he's the 2nd highest paid player at Goodison and we dot move him on it's seriously going to hinder our chances and bringing new blood in.
11 Posted 22/06/2011 at 16:12:46
2. Defensive Midfielder
Arteta, Rodwell and Fellaini are all attacking midfielders and not defensive, ball winning midfielders
The team is cryingout for a midfielder who is able to break up play and make a meaningful pass to our own team.
12 Posted 22/06/2011 at 16:35:09
13 Posted 22/06/2011 at 16:48:48
Admittedly none of them has made the position their own but i would say it was lack of goals and cutting edge more than anything that hurt us last season.
I'd much rather see a striker than a DCM.
14 Posted 22/06/2011 at 16:51:15
15 Posted 22/06/2011 at 17:01:59
16 Posted 22/06/2011 at 17:02:35
17 Posted 22/06/2011 at 17:54:51
Cheap as fook as well!
18 Posted 22/06/2011 at 17:54:51
Cheap as fook as well!
19 Posted 22/06/2011 at 18:18:33
20 Posted 22/06/2011 at 18:39:11
About 28 games into the season, when the injuries start piling up, Moyesie will be forced to play him as a makeshift midfielder... we will start to pick up points and Moyesie will be recognized as a tactical genius and once again crowned manager of the year.
Nah, that's silly!
21 Posted 22/06/2011 at 18:53:10
22 Posted 22/06/2011 at 19:04:12
I seriously cannot understand anyone who does not think Yak is finished as a Premier League forward.
23 Posted 22/06/2011 at 19:05:17
24 Posted 22/06/2011 at 19:09:00
25 Posted 22/06/2011 at 20:18:59
26 Posted 22/06/2011 at 23:16:14
27 Posted 23/06/2011 at 01:12:45
I'm struggling to see how even the greatest holding midfielder on the planet could help us in this department.
As others have mentioned, pace, width, and a quality goal scorer must be our priorities.
Sadly, I can see Moyes sharing Colin's views and focus on improving our defensive capabilities before he looks up front. I shall truely despair if this is the case!
28 Posted 23/06/2011 at 02:01:06
We have everthing but the guy(s) to put it in the net playing teams who know it too. Why we get open play against top sides and "park the bus" against lower sides.
We don't have a Predator.
29 Posted 23/06/2011 at 03:21:10
And as for 'good in the tackle' I guess someone must have been watching him fishing in Sefton Park Lake.
30 Posted 23/06/2011 at 07:19:11
31 Posted 23/06/2011 at 09:24:51
The Yak may not be finished physically but mentally he lost interest at Everton ages ago, just as he lost interest at Portsmouth and Middlesborough before he joined us. He also ran his bollocks off in his first couple of games at Leicester, but once he thinks he's impressed enough to warrant a big pay packet he puts his feet up. If he had the mentality of say, Bellamy or even Kuyt, and a desire to run and chase he would be fantastic, but he is basically lazy.
32 Posted 23/06/2011 at 09:42:19
33 Posted 23/06/2011 at 09:42:19
34 Posted 23/06/2011 at 09:43:42
35 Posted 23/06/2011 at 09:56:55
I must admit, I'd have Barton in a heartbeat now he seems to have grown up.
36 Posted 23/06/2011 at 10:38:43
I'd offer Nugent a contract, he's on a free & can play out wide as well as through the middle. We know he's not great but he'll work harder than anyone for us, a good squad player.
37 Posted 23/06/2011 at 11:19:35
38 Posted 23/06/2011 at 10:42:06
We seem to have lost the ability to play the ball forwards out of defence through the middle and SFA goes out to the right flank to go up the line there.
If you play predictable, repetetive football then the other side is already positioned to cut you off. Your ONLY option then is blistering pace to try and do, what they know you are going to do, before they can stop you. Martin O'Neil's playbook at Villa - relying on pace down the wings and stuff all else.
If you can mix your play and send the ball up either flank OR through the middle you dont have to rely on speed and force quite so much. At the moment we are too one dimensional and dont always have the pace either.
For my money we need to re-model Coleman into the same kind of pacey attacking full back that Baines is on the left. We need a technically capable right winger ahead of him - Wijelwhotsits from Feyenoord looks the part or young Weiss from City if we could spring him loose before he has to endure another season in the SPL!.
If Osman is happy on the left, as he seems to have been latter half of last season, and we have Bilyaletdinov as cover that sorts the flanks out. The pace and width coming from the full backs bombing on.
Fellaini can do the in-front-of -the-back-four job. I'm still at a loss as to why Heitinga doesnt do better at it as he does seem to be one of the better passers of the ball we have?.IF Arteta can recapture his top form and Fellaini learns to pass forward with some consistency we're ok there too.
A decent finisher to take up the Saha slack would be enough to round it out.
Right winger and a traditional centre forward, in the big dunc stylie, would do the job I think.
39 Posted 23/06/2011 at 12:21:47
Were a squad full of gentlemen and we need to toughen up and stop being so friggin nice.
But ultimately if you dont score you dont win.
We have a championship strikeforce and it needs addressing.
We need a striker first thats gotta be a priority imagine if Beckford got injured as well as Saha...........................that would leave Big Vic as our only recognised striker.
40 Posted 23/06/2011 at 13:15:05
Wouldn't be against bringing in Hargreaves on pay as you play - chances are we would never have to pay him, but if he somehow recovers, he would do a great job.
I also think we give the Yak one final final chance. It looks like he is going nowhere fast, so get him a proper pre-season under his belt, remind him how good he is, and get him ready for the start of the season - we have nothing to lose with him and it is his last chance and he knows it. IF he comes good, it would mean less pressure to buy a striker right now, and give us the chance to make sure we make the correct decision in buying a striker for the long term, not a last minute panic buy as we have no-one else
41 Posted 23/06/2011 at 14:00:24
We looked a much better side with the pace of Donovan plus long hoofs can sometimes be turned into a chance with it. Apart from goals pace was imo what we lacked most last season. Teams are happy to let us have the ball if its slow passing its just to easy to get men behind the ball and defend.
42 Posted 23/06/2011 at 17:48:20
Fellaini can do the in-front-of -the-back-four job???.
Thats just it, he cannot,. Ok when we have the ball, he can do all the things a top holding player does, spreading the ball ect, but he goes missing, i dont mean hiding, he wanders out of position and when its time to defend, its down to the back four.
Dont you remember when Jags and Disten were getting stick? yes it was when Felli was going wandering, getting in Arteta,s way, leaving a gaping hole between midfield and defence and although Neville aint the answer, he improved the team.
43 Posted 23/06/2011 at 20:01:21
44 Posted 23/06/2011 at 21:00:13
Fellaini definitely wants to play higher up the pitch and his inability to track back at speed gets him in trouble. He is not afraid of committing to the challenge and winning the ball though.
Positional discipline is something that can be learned on the training pitch and beds in with experience.
We'd be daft to overlook the quality he does posses because he's a young lad that goes walkabout on occasion.
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