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Transfer Trash Talk #6

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Again we are getting closer to the start of the new season and all we have in the way of strengthening the squad are a few extensions on some of our younger players contracts.

No buying and no selling until 3 or 4 weeks before the season kicks off is the norm for Everton, with the new arrivals (if any), most probably starting on the bench and Moyes saying that he needs time to adapt and he doesn't want to use him too early... blah blah.

Of course you know this by know and of course it gets right up your nose that other clubs are pulling in quality players left right and centre. Today, it is rumoured that Liverpool will secure the services of last season's midfield sensation Charlie Adam.

That pisses me off, but not as much as the sale of a player that has been outstanding in the Norwegian Tippeligaen so far this year. Anthony Ujah, a 21-year-old Nigerian striker, was sold this morning from Lillestrøm to the German Bundesliga club Mainz for around 20 million kroner (about £1.7M). A striker that scored goals out of nothing and would have been a great supplement to our wanting strike force at Goodison.

I have heard about Bryan King, who supposedly is the Everton scout for the Norwegian market, and I wonder if he was even aware of this player... Yes, I know we are broke, but this lad could have been a gold mine for Everton, if you think about selling him on later.

I feel that with the resources we have at Everton, then the Norwegian Market is one that should be really under close scrutiny, and with Ole Gunnar Solskjær as Manager of Molde now, then I am quite sure he is in a weekly dialogue with Ferguson if good players appear there.

Maybe some work to do here?

Tony Cheek, Haugesund, Norway     Posted 28/06/2011 at 07:43:58

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Spragg Johnson
1   Posted 28/06/2011 at 14:35:05

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If the tabloids and gossip mongers are to be believed (and I hope they're not) ... the following names would seem to be the ones linked most strongly to a move to Goodison... in starting positions:

GK: Andy Lonergan
Defence: Wes Brown, Angelo Ogbinna, Neil Taylor, Lee Wallace
Midfield: Chris Eagles, Guy Moussi, Craig Mackail-Smith, Charles N'Zogbia
Attack: Jay Bothroyd and Shane Long

Jesus wept! ... Just shows what's become of our 'clout' or lack of in the transfer market - only N'Zogbia is a regular Premier League player... and he's the only one I'd have in terms of making an impact in the starting XI (although a couple of others might be useful as squad cover).

Let's hope Moyes pulls a Pienaar or an Arteta type gem out of somewhere!

Michael Byrne
2   Posted 28/06/2011 at 14:39:36

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I'm always amazed at the way other clubs, like Bolton, Sunderland etc. are able to pull decent players out of no-where! Our scouting system must be terrible, outside of the UK!
Gavin Ramejkis
3   Posted 28/06/2011 at 15:12:24

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expect no new signings whatsoever and you won't be disappointed - don't you know it's the new "Everton Way"
Anthony Hughes
4   Posted 28/06/2011 at 15:32:56

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We had no money last January or last summer or the previous transfer windows. Money hasn't just popped out of thin air, so until players have been sold expect fuck all coming in.
The board have produced nothing in recent years to fund transfers, any signings have come from Rooney, Lescott and co being sold over the past few seasons. Any talk of players like N'Zogbia is just wishful thinking.
Erik Dols
5   Posted 28/06/2011 at 15:44:52

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@Michael Byrne #2: how often did Bolton and Sunderland finish above us in the previous five seasons? They didn't.

And on the original article from Tony Cheek: so based on the fact that we didn't get one specific player, who at no time was linked to Everton, you think that our scout isn't doing his job? The lad you mentioned went to Mainz. Hardly a big club in my book. Have all other clubs been sleeping as well?

Knee jerking at its best IMHO.
Karl Masters
6   Posted 28/06/2011 at 15:53:42

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Whilst I agree that I want to see new players at Everton, I must take issue with you saying everybody else is 'pulling in players left, right and centre'

The market has been very quiet apart from Manure finally spending their Ronaldo money.

Spurs have to sell before they can buy and it's only the likes of Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool throwing rich owners' money around that are likely to spend more than they bring in. Even Arsenal's Summer re-building plans look like they are going to be financed by the sale of Fabregas to Barcelona.

Anyway, money has ruined football. Even in the Summer months it is ruining your enjoyment of being an Evertonian. Personally, I'm not missing it at all. Going back to my beer in the garden now! Whoever signs or goes I won't have any effect on it!
Jeremy Benson
7   Posted 28/06/2011 at 18:28:50

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I think Erik @5 largely has it right.

We missed out? So did the rest of the premiership. Ergo, our scouting system, or judgement of players, is no different to the rest of the premiership clubs.

If barcelona had bought him, I'd be sitting up and take notice. But they didn't. Scoring in norway for fun does not equate to terrorising premiership defences.

Aside from that, I think everyone needs to chill out. The majority of transfers will take place after the 1st July, as most players are contracted up to the end of June. No point paying out £20-80k a week when you don't have to.
Tony Cheek
8   Posted 28/06/2011 at 19:19:58

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Erik #5...my point is that if you were scouting for Everton in Norway, you could not have failed to see how good this player was. Mainz got a bargain, it could have been us.
Jimmy Sorheim
9   Posted 28/06/2011 at 20:10:16

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I dont agree with Ujah being a possible great Everton player. The Norwegian leauge is one of the poorest at this time. With Wollf Eikreim from Man Utd doing it well it needs to be said that Feguson would never sell him IF he was any good.

Agreed, he is in good form in Norway but has proved nothing in my eyes as to come here to Everton. We don't need more squad players, we need top notch players who already have proved themselves, like N'Zogbia. I am angry by our passive approach though, we need reassurances from Moyes that there will be new players coming in, or else we will be lost in no-man's land.
Earlier years we at least knew about which players Moyes was gunning for. We no longer know, so we are in the dark. I don't blame all the negative posts in here, it is a reflection of our actual situation and there are being sold good players with nothing coming in. I refer to Pienaar for £3M and Vaughan for £2M, plus we are now selling Yobo on the cheap, probably for £2-3M.

I am shocked at these cheap giveaways, and I am starting to hate Moyes for going along with this. Tell me, WHO will we get in as direct replacements? I will tell you: no-one special or none at all.

Am I the only one pissed off by this idiotic cheap garage sale? Both Pienaar and Yobo should merit at least £15M, but we only get £5M... When will this cheap sale policy stop?

Marc Williams
10   Posted 28/06/2011 at 21:03:22

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Jimmy #9... " Yobo should merit at least £15M"

According to Sky Kenwright's sorting this one... so we'll be probably let him go for a Kebab & 25% of some dodgy Turkish timeshare !
Don't worry though the Everton PR dept' will either hide behind an 'undisclosed fee' or claim it's another 'Deal of the Century'.
Tony Cheek
11   Posted 28/06/2011 at 20:59:01

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Jimmy #9... Buy top notch players? its not going to happen... I agree it would have been a gamble to buy Ujah, but wasn't it a gamble to buy Cahill, or take on Saha or Beckford or Distin. That's all we do now, gamble that players will come good. If we are going to buy top notch players then we have to sell top notch players first!

As for getting £3M for Pienaar... brill, he wanted to go and was nearly a Bosman... £2M for Vaughan... brill, wasn't worth more... £2/3M for Yobo... yes, please! That's £7m in; will it buy a top notcher... no! Still paying that debt off, Jimmy!

Eric Myles
12   Posted 29/06/2011 at 02:34:07

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"Agreed, he is in good form in Norway but has proved nothing in my eyes as to come here to Everton" so Jimmy #9, I take it you don't agree with the other article about using the Udinese model and developing promising youngsters and selling them on at a profit to generate additional funds?

Better to sell our best players that will provide money to pay off some debt instead.

Jason Lam
13   Posted 29/06/2011 at 04:16:49

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When's the Sky money comin' in?
Jimmy Sorheim
14   Posted 29/06/2011 at 05:50:28

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Agree with Marc Williams.

I submit that Pienaar should be given a new long term contact a lot earlier, that would mean we would be getting much more! Yobo should go for at least 6 million. Vaughan is far better than Anichebe, so we should kept him instead, and sold Anichebe!
I think we are only paying off debt with these sales. There will only be a free transfer or two, if someone thinks we will get to use millions they are not up to date on the finance situation. This is my opinion, and I firmly belive I am right so no use trying to debate me, just write what you think yourselves, without critisice me for standing by my view...
Andy Mack
15   Posted 29/06/2011 at 06:42:39

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Hopefully we're pipped to Wes Brown by someone, £4m for him? Lordy! Hopefully transfer trash talk of the highest order, rather we keep Yobo.

Talking of which is anyone alarmed by Kenwrights bartering technique, a loan with a prearranged £6m fee, Yobo a total success and scores winning goal to seal title, becomes a fan favourite. Nigerian captain, 30 years old. Surely he should have had his hand out for the fee while the team were still celebrating.

A month later Fenerbahce are looking at £3m, Bill's quoted as ?I think a result can be achieved in a few days..I have had no other bids."
Ray Roche
16   Posted 29/06/2011 at 09:20:33

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I have always said that while Kenwrights in charge Moyes will be virtually nothing of any money raised from outgoing transfers. Pienaar,Vaughn, this money should be available already but the chances of Moyes seeing it are lower than a snakes bollocks.
Eugene Ruane
17   Posted 29/06/2011 at 09:29:39

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Personally I'd love us to have got hold of Nolan.

Yeah yeah dirty twat blah etc, but imo, he is one of the few players out there who can change a team, actually get a grip of a them.

GENUINELY influential.

He's a nark who hates to lose.

He's also a decent player.

I know he's bezzies with 'Big (nobhead) Sam' but I was really surprised that 4 million was all it took to get him (and to get him to play in the Championship).

As for Wes Brown?

Sheeesh!
Brian Lawlor
18   Posted 29/06/2011 at 10:08:50

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Sold to the German giants that are Mainz??

If he's so good then every club in Europe has missed a trick with him.
Jimmy Sorheim
19   Posted 28/06/2011 at 20:10:16

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I dont agree with Ujah being a possible great Everton player.
The norwegian leauge is one of the poorest at this time. With wollf eikreim from Man.U doing it well it needs to be said that Feguson would never sell him IF he was any good.
Agreed, he is in good form in Norway but has proved nothing in my eyes as to come here to Everton. We dont need more squad players, we need top notch players who already have proved themselves, like Nzogbia.
I am angry by our passive approach though, we need reassurances from Moyes that there will be new players coming in, or else we will be lost in no-mans land.
Earlier years we at least knew about which players Moyes were gunning for. We no longer know, so we are in the dark. I dont blaim all the negative posts in here, it is a reflection of our actual situation and there are being sold good players with nothing coming in. I refer to Pienaar 3 million pounds and Vaughan for 2.millions, plus we are now selling Yobo on the cheap, probably for 2-3 million. I am shocked at these cheap give aways, and I am starting to hate Moyes for going along with this. Tell me, WHO will we get in as direct replacements? I will tell you, no-one special or none at all, am I the only one pissed off by this idiotic cheap garage sale. Both Pienaar and Yobo should merit at least 15 million pounds, but we only get 5...... When will this cheap sale policy stop?
Alan Brown
20   Posted 29/06/2011 at 10:39:22

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It's all very well saying we should have got millions more for peanuts but he would have been free at the end of the season. As for Vaughan, he wasn't ever fit long enough to play regularly for us and we were lucky to get what we got. As for Yobo, the agreed price was 6 million. However, what are we supposed to do if they now offer less. We have no other offers for him. We won't play him and he doesn't want to play here any more. We can only take what we get and move on
Nick Wall
21   Posted 29/06/2011 at 12:29:22

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The main thing that strikes me is that we've not been linked with anyone at all in a strong and credible way for a few weeks now, since the Ba deal fell through. Does anyone really believe that Everton are going to fork out £4m for Wes Brown when we need every penny to be able to bid for strikers ?

It seems pretty obvious that we're waiting for money from players sales before making any final decisions as to which of our targets are going to be affordable.

I don't agree with those who say that we won't see anyone coming in. I just don't think that's an option for Moyes, given the weaknesses in our squad. Everton will get active at some point, until then we'll just have to wait and bemoan all the players that we see going elsewhere.
Eugene Ruane
22   Posted 29/06/2011 at 13:33:55

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Nick you say (21) "Everton will get active at some point".

With what?

James Marshall
23   Posted 29/06/2011 at 14:06:55

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Don't worry, we have the new Zidane in Magaye Gueuye!

Mind you, by his logic that makes me a fat Welsh goalkeeper with a moustache.
Dave Lynch
24   Posted 29/06/2011 at 14:39:16

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W.C. Fields wrote.

" If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit."

Sums up our plight really.
Nick Wall
25   Posted 29/06/2011 at 15:08:40

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#22 Eugene as I said it seems to be a matter of waiting until we get money in from player sales.
Phil Bellis
26   Posted 29/06/2011 at 16:19:21

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Sorry Nick, Bill needs that cash to pay last season's police bill...never mind the coming season's
What a farce we've become; God help Bill if Moysey goes first
Sam Hoare
27   Posted 29/06/2011 at 16:40:04

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I think I'd rather we didn't bring anyone in than spent £4M on Wes Brown!!

I reckon/hope in the next fortnight we'll lose Yobo and Yak for around £6-8M and will then sign N'Zogbia.
Steve Sweeney
28   Posted 29/06/2011 at 16:44:47

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Kenwright will not be allowed to Spend £9m in total
never mind on 1 player. Nzogbia is not going to happen.
As for the Manchester Echo's latest scoop, Bellamy and SWP to Everton what a laugh, what will Billy Bullshit pay them with Everton Mints.
Jesus why don't you all get real. We couldn't even
afford to pay Peanuts £65k a week so how the fuck will
we be able to pay either of them mercenary bastards
the £80k plus they will demand.
Billy Liar has sold every
asset we had and is now come to the end of the road
where the only way he can carry on is to sell off his players. We know it and all of the football world knows it, hence the derisory offer for Yobo. Expect a few more for our better players, the ones we don't want Billy,Heitinger etc, cannot be sold as no one wants them unless maybe on a free.
Whilst Billy Liar and his cronies are left in charge
this club will continue to die a very slow and painful death.
Phil Bellis
29   Posted 29/06/2011 at 17:15:42

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Steady Steve...we don't want him crawling out of his bunker
Trevor Lynes
30   Posted 29/06/2011 at 17:46:06

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Just noticed at the bottom of the football gossip that our Nev is dropping his house valuation by £250,000... Are the media taking the piss?

All other gossip is about transfer moves involving mighty sides like Wolves, Villa, Stoke and Sunderland......

Garry Martin
31   Posted 30/06/2011 at 06:28:50

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Ater the last 3 or 4 pre season sagas I've totally lost any interest in it now !!

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