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Wax Face is back in for Neville. Love him or hate him, he is a model professional and a big influence both on and off the pitch. He also seems to be a nice guy.
Strange that Philip Green is supposed to be at Goodison on Saturday. Bet it's to twist BK's arm as it seems Spurs really want him.
Both Neville and Moyes gone by Monday Morning.... Bets anyone??
KENWRIGHT OUT.
Steve Sweeney, Posted 28/01/2011 at 00:43:55
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I wouldn't surprise me. BK would sell his own mother.
The back pages will be full of it tomorrow,
Levy had a meeting in London
Thursday night with Billy Boy.
Neville has intimated that he wants out to play
CL.
Lets wait and see, it will be a massive loss for the
club if he is allowed to leave
Levy had a meeting in London
Thursday night with Billy Boy.
Neville has intimated that he wants out to play
CL.
Lets wait and see, it will be a massive loss for the
club if he is allowed to leave
Here is a link from the toffeeweb home page
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-news-Tottenham-to-make-Everton-Phil-Neville-new-offer-before-Monday-transfer-deadline-article683745.html
Also check out the mail, Guardian,Star and Express.
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-news-Tottenham-to-make-Everton-Phil-Neville-new-offer-before-Monday-transfer-deadline-article683745.html
Also check out the mail, Guardian,Star and Express.
In ordinary times it would be good business to recoup money from a player who is coming to the end of his Premier League life. However, these are not ordinary times and such a sale would be the clearest indication that the club is in the brown stuff.
Moyes would never agree to sell his captain, to sell him from underneath him when the strength in the squad is low and has not been replensished would be a smack in the face to Moyes. How many smacks can he take, I wonder...
It all "feels" a bit like a panic sale and desperate cost cutting than pruning and good financial management.
Has someone pulled the plug and called in a loan or two? By Monday evening we will know.
Has someone pulled the plug and called in a loan or two? By Monday evening we will know.
Christine,' how many smacks can he take i wonder', about 65k a weeks worth.
Steve, yeah I know, 65,000 smackers a week.
I just feel he is being painted into a corner and watching as playing decisions are made on the basis of a dwindling squad which is not of his doing.
If the club is in such dire straights that it has to sell a number of players to survive then so be it. But be honest and tell us.
We will rally around Moyes and the team but the gulf between the board and fans of this great club will widen even further.
I just feel he is being painted into a corner and watching as playing decisions are made on the basis of a dwindling squad which is not of his doing.
If the club is in such dire straights that it has to sell a number of players to survive then so be it. But be honest and tell us.
We will rally around Moyes and the team but the gulf between the board and fans of this great club will widen even further.
Can we not transfer Kenwrong to Spurs?
We desperately need a quality striker. I won't mind losing Pienaar and Neville if it means one of Spurs' strikers coming our way.
Moyes has a history of acquiring players that are going through a bad patch (Pienaar, Arteta, Marcus Bent, Brian McBride, Kevin Kilbane), and getting the best out of them. Robbie Keane could be the next one to join that list (Moyes has been after him for years, so it wouldn't surprise me). However, bearing in mind the impact that Fellaini had, playing as a target man, on Saturday, there's a chance he might go for Pavlyuchenko instead.
Having said that, the rumours on here might be more than just paranoid frustration, and we might be forced to sell players, and not bring anyone in. It's difficult to understand what's going on at the moment. If we really were close to Administration, the bank wouldn't lend us the money to give Vic and Seamus improved contracts. Surely, the bank would have also forced us to sell a player worth decent money (Baines/Jags/Rodwell/Fellaini).
On the other hand, Moyes has made it clear that he thinks we desperately need a striker. Surely, we MUST be close to Administration, if he's getting rid of strikers without getting a replacement.
I guess the situation will become a bit clearer once the transfer window closes.
Moyes has a history of acquiring players that are going through a bad patch (Pienaar, Arteta, Marcus Bent, Brian McBride, Kevin Kilbane), and getting the best out of them. Robbie Keane could be the next one to join that list (Moyes has been after him for years, so it wouldn't surprise me). However, bearing in mind the impact that Fellaini had, playing as a target man, on Saturday, there's a chance he might go for Pavlyuchenko instead.
Having said that, the rumours on here might be more than just paranoid frustration, and we might be forced to sell players, and not bring anyone in. It's difficult to understand what's going on at the moment. If we really were close to Administration, the bank wouldn't lend us the money to give Vic and Seamus improved contracts. Surely, the bank would have also forced us to sell a player worth decent money (Baines/Jags/Rodwell/Fellaini).
On the other hand, Moyes has made it clear that he thinks we desperately need a striker. Surely, we MUST be close to Administration, if he's getting rid of strikers without getting a replacement.
I guess the situation will become a bit clearer once the transfer window closes.
Spoke to a spurs mate of mine over lunch, "I don't really know why we bought Pienaar. We've already got Modric and VDV to spread the ball to our wingers. We don't need strengthening in midfield.
But he only cost 3million"
We're in such a sorry state it's not funny even. Sigh.
But he only cost 3million"
We're in such a sorry state it's not funny even. Sigh.
Without Baines to back him up Pienaar will be a 75,000 pw bench warmer. Keeping him company will be Keene, Pavluchenko, Krancjar and probably other bench warmers who would be getting at least the same wage.
Scratching my head, I wonder where do Spurs find the money to do that.
Scratching my head, I wonder where do Spurs find the money to do that.
Dick #12
"I wonder where do Spurs find the money to do that".......
Spurs will recoup about £18M from CL. Additionally, they will take in about £20M from sponsership (whereas we take in about £4M) ? fuck me they have a different sponser for each competition i.e. CL, EPL, FA Cup).
Now let's not get started on the money they take in from every home game (corporate boxes being one of their primary returns).
Their business model is way beyond anything that BK, or his cronies, could dream up.
Lets get back to the real world lads...Neville is going nowhere. Much as I love the guy's attitude and professionalism he is coming towards the end of his career with shed loads in the bank and a family settled in his hometown...why oh why would become a squad player at Spurs and relocate at this point? A nothing story in my eyes. We're more likely to sign a striker on deadline day than Neville is to leave.
Dick(#12)
Robbie Keane is on £65k per week.
Tottenham have spent a lot of money in the past (more than Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal!!!!), but I think it's more interesting to look at how much they've spent since they qualified for the Champions' League. I thought Redknapp would've been rewarded with a huge transfer kitty to strengthen the squad. Even Van der Vaart didn't have a huge transfer fee. Considering, they're through to the latter stages of the competition, I'd have expected bids for the likes of Torres, not bargains like Pienaar.
I imagine they can borrow more money than us because they have more corporate facilities (and, because they're in London, more corporate clients).
Robbie Keane is on £65k per week.
Tottenham have spent a lot of money in the past (more than Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal!!!!), but I think it's more interesting to look at how much they've spent since they qualified for the Champions' League. I thought Redknapp would've been rewarded with a huge transfer kitty to strengthen the squad. Even Van der Vaart didn't have a huge transfer fee. Considering, they're through to the latter stages of the competition, I'd have expected bids for the likes of Torres, not bargains like Pienaar.
I imagine they can borrow more money than us because they have more corporate facilities (and, because they're in London, more corporate clients).
Well if he has to go I hope Moyes digs his heels in and says he wants Pavlyuchenko or Krancjar in return.
Only two things are certain in football.The first is that Phil Neville will still be our captain on Tuesday morning and the second that Davey will have completed a loan signing at 10:59 on the previous evening!
Doddy are you putting money on that loan deal? I don't mean a PR exercise like Dier either, a player that should play for the first team, they are going to have to be amazing as they'll have to cover for the five players we are now down thanks to BK
Gosling
Yobo
Yakubu
Pienaar
Vaughan
Gosling
Yobo
Yakubu
Pienaar
Vaughan
If Phil is sold from under Moyes feet then no amount of gimlet-eyed staring into the camera will be able to disguise the Moyes/Kenwright relationship is terminally ruptured.
Not particulary bothered about losing Neville as he is a dreadful footballer.
If he was to go though I'd be more concerned about what it means regards the state of our clubs, a threadbare squad that has to loan people out because we can't afford the wages, getting increasingly worried.
If he was to go though I'd be more concerned about what it means regards the state of our clubs, a threadbare squad that has to loan people out because we can't afford the wages, getting increasingly worried.
Christine@8
If the club is indeed in dire financial straights, telling people would not be a good move. If they went ahead and said, "OK Everton are as skint as everyone thinks/knows they are" then you get clubs coming in with uber-low bids for players. If you don't have a pot to piss in, don't go round telling everyone!
It's common knowledge anyway, as is borne out by the fact we rarely buy anyone of any note, but let's all keep shtum just in case, yeah?!
;-)
If the club is indeed in dire financial straights, telling people would not be a good move. If they went ahead and said, "OK Everton are as skint as everyone thinks/knows they are" then you get clubs coming in with uber-low bids for players. If you don't have a pot to piss in, don't go round telling everyone!
It's common knowledge anyway, as is borne out by the fact we rarely buy anyone of any note, but let's all keep shtum just in case, yeah?!
;-)
I know he wasn't exactly a major member of the squad but we also sent Agard out on loan so in fact we are down 3 strikers.
Gavin #15.
Why would you think Neville would need to re-locate? He will probably get Spurs to purchase him a flat or house or mansion for his stay in London, leaving his family to stay at home. FFS quite a few of the away games are in the North West so Neville could save Spurs some cash with team sleep overs.
I personally thought Neville was piss poor against WHU so I would say that his mind is elsewhere - probably thinking about picking up an extra 10-20K per week for an additional two years AND sitting on the bench for most games. Sounds a good deal to me.
Keeping on the theme of transfers, it looks like Rodwell doesn't think much will go on and Sky have quoted Moyes as being "very pessimistic" of any new players coming in before the deadline on Monday.
Oh well, roll on the summer!
Oh well, roll on the summer!
Yep Al, that press conference did us Blue's the world of good
No one in and 3/4 out
What a fuckin mess and to be fair who is going to Loan us a player that will make a difference
Kenwright cowers in the back as always
Jesus wept
No one in and 3/4 out
What a fuckin mess and to be fair who is going to Loan us a player that will make a difference
Kenwright cowers in the back as always
Jesus wept
Its all getting too much for me.....im off down the pub
Oh Richard 17# ,You don't half set yourself up for it. How many times have your predictions been wrong eh fella ? Pretty much 100%, I'd say.
Ah well... enjoy looking a complete fucking lulu on Tuesday morning.
Ah well... enjoy looking a complete fucking lulu on Tuesday morning.
Marc Williams ? your a goon fullstop!! There is absolutely no indication of any incomings and to do business you need more than the fucking weekend and Monday to do it ? wise up fella!!
Chris Keightley 28# ... I don't understand your post... is that NOT what I'm saying ? or do you have me confused with someone else !
Get an adult, carer or sober friend to help you before you post a reply eh !
Oh ...and gramatically it should be you're (short for you are not your ) as in the sentence " you're a goon fullstop".
Jeeze, it's like running an adult education class at times but glad to be of help ... toodle pip !
Get an adult, carer or sober friend to help you before you post a reply eh !
Oh ...and gramatically it should be you're (short for you are not your ) as in the sentence " you're a goon fullstop".
Jeeze, it's like running an adult education class at times but glad to be of help ... toodle pip !
Mr Sweeney (TODD). You havn't let me know what I'm to do with my Everton flags after the Tottenham game...you remember ?( your rant prior to the match).
Money for Neville? Bite their hands off. So he's got a gob. Big deal. Having a big mouth is great when you can actually play football. Problem is PN can't. The guy's rubbish. For those who think her's so great, then since he's played for most of the season as opposed to Hibbo how come we are near enough having to stave off a relegation battle. Everyone slags off Hibbo but i'll wager he was our RB most of the time when we were finishing in the top six.
Hibbert aside, imagine a good and competant right back who can pass a ball accurately and then put him behind Coleman. For me it's the right back thats been the problem. If Moyes could use what brain he has and work the training ground with Baines and Gueye, then, to complement those two, get a right back with skill. We wouldn't have a problem now.
Numnuts 'arry wants Nev. Then let him have him. With the money go and find an up and comming right back who will be able to pass a ball unlike Neville,.
Tell you the best captain, Distan. His age, his experience, and lets face it, this season he's been a collossus and deserves the honour. I reckon with the respect that this guy has amongst the players for his sheer endeavour at least, he deserves it. ,
Hibbert aside, imagine a good and competant right back who can pass a ball accurately and then put him behind Coleman. For me it's the right back thats been the problem. If Moyes could use what brain he has and work the training ground with Baines and Gueye, then, to complement those two, get a right back with skill. We wouldn't have a problem now.
Numnuts 'arry wants Nev. Then let him have him. With the money go and find an up and comming right back who will be able to pass a ball unlike Neville,.
Tell you the best captain, Distan. His age, his experience, and lets face it, this season he's been a collossus and deserves the honour. I reckon with the respect that this guy has amongst the players for his sheer endeavour at least, he deserves it. ,
Frank,(31) As I said in a previous post, "The pie at night"
Bite his hand off
Frank #31
The win against Spurs hasn't changed anything,
yes I was delighted we won as I will be if we
win today.
That doesn't change the facts that Billy Liar
must be forced out.
I repeat He and He alone is responsible for
the financial mess this club is in.
Everything has been sold or mortgaged, its now akin
to burning the ship to keep the boilers going.
Our motto now should be GHU- god help us.
The win against Spurs hasn't changed anything,
yes I was delighted we won as I will be if we
win today.
That doesn't change the facts that Billy Liar
must be forced out.
I repeat He and He alone is responsible for
the financial mess this club is in.
Everything has been sold or mortgaged, its now akin
to burning the ship to keep the boilers going.
Our motto now should be GHU- god help us.
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