Beckford!!? As IF!!

By Eugene   Ruane  ::  02/08/2011   145 Comments (»Last) There's been a lot of TW debate during the summer regarding our chances next season. Hot air mainly... but fair enough, it's summer, there's fuck all else to do (well... there's fuck-all else to do in Gothen-bleedin-burg...)

There HAS been a little 'grey' during the debate(s) but... well, not too much (certainly very little from me). Basically there appears to be two camps: the 'unrealistic' and the 'miserable' (twat); optimist & pessimist... Those who think it IS possible we could do well and those who think we definitely won't.

Problem is, for gloating purposes, you have to define 'doing well'. Otherwise, when (next May) you say... "Hey bollocks, you said we'd do well... KNOB-HEAD!!" ...the response is likely to be: "Well hold ON! Relegation IS doing well ACTUALLY, when you consider the injuries AND our FA points deduct..." etc blah.

So here's a chance to make a few specific predictions... For us ALL to be wise BEFORE the event and to give us ALL the opportunity to rip the piss out of each other's predictions next May (or... erm... even in 6 weeks!)

Same for all of us: five questions to decide whether you'll be the gloater or the... um... 'gloatee' (!?) So:?

1) What position will we NOT finish above?

2) Will we win anything?

3) Will Moyes be there in May?

4) Average Goodison Park attendance (within 500)?

5) Player of the Season?



Me: - 1) 9th. 2) No. 3) Yes. 4) 34,000. 5) Beckford.

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Gavin Ramejkis
1 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:11:15
1. 8th
2. No
3. Yes
4. 33,750
5. Baines
Mark Tanton
2 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:13:07
1. 10th
2. No
3. Yes
4. 33,000
5. Baines
Tony McNulty
3 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:13:36
5th
No
Yes
37,500
Rodwell
Kunal Desai
4 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:13:23
1. - 7TH

2. - NO

3. - Thought he would have got fed up of it all and gone this year. So NO again.

4. - 35,000

5. - Coleman
Kunal Desai
5 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:16:16
I meant YES for number 3
Eric Myles
6 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:15:24
1) 1
2) No
3) Yes
4) 32,500
5) Anichebe
Brian Lloyd
7 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:14:44
1. 7th
2. No
3. Yes
4. 34,000
5. Baines

I suspect all the answers will be about the same except for number 1.
Kunal Desai
8 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:18:14
How about a +/- goal difference?

I'm going to go with +5
Dan McKie
9 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:16:40
1) 6th
2) No
3) Yes
4) 36000
5) Cahill
Ian Kearney
10 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:18:33
Nice one Eugene

1, 5th
2, No
3, Yes
4, 34,000
5, Fellaini
Mike Bates
11 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:16:42
1. 9th

2. Yes - Wishful thinking...for some reason I have us to win the LC on an end of season all competitions accumulator.

3. Yes

4. 34000

5. Distin
Andrew Earlam
12 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:22:44
1. 8th
2. No
3. yes
4. 32,000
5. Baines
Richard Reeves
13 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:20:19
1)5
2)no
3)ha,ha,no stop,please
4)34,300
5)Beckford
Ryan Holroyd
14 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:24:36
1) 6th
2) No
3) Yes
4) 33,400
5) Baines
David Crowe
15 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:30:13
1. 5th
2. Have to say NO but would would be stupid to rule out
3. I bloody hope so and YES
4. 35 000 because I reckon the season will be good in the end
5. Baines - who else?
Andrew Earlam
16 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:37:04
Can I change 5. to Barton ?
Dave Brooks
17 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:37:22
1. 9th
2. No
3. Yes
4. 34,900
5. Distin.

6. Do you REALLY live in Gothenburg?
Andrew Fair
18 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:39:13
1.4th
2.Yes
3.Yes
4.36,800
5.Beckford
Andrew Fair
19 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:39:13
1.4th
2.Yes
3.Yes
4.36,800
5.Beckford
Mike Rourke
20 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:43:19
1) 3rd

2) Definitely

3) Oh yes

4) 36000

5) Arteta
Andrew Fair
21 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:39:13
1.4th
2.Yes
3.Yes
4.36,800
5.Beckford
Andrew Fair
22 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:47:30
Seem to have posted three times. Sorry
Tony J Williams
23 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:47:48
1 - 7th
2 - No
3 - No
4 - 37,337
5 - Baines or Riquelme
John Wilson
24 Posted 02/08/2011 at 15:46:06
1. 1st
2. Maybe
3. Not sure
4. 33,000 - 37,000
5. A defender
Trevor Mackie
26 Posted 02/08/2011 at 16:08:22
Very good quezzies.

1. We will NOT BETTER 12TH

2. Deffo no, we won't reach the last 8 of either cup and lower league clubs will beat us both times. The League Cup will be a team with the initial "C", the FA defeat will be by Derby County.

3. Moyes will leave the last week in November of this year, cancelling a trip to Bradford.

4. 27,341

5.DJ Campbell arriving @ 7:45 Sunday night.
Eddie Tully
27 Posted 02/08/2011 at 16:16:34
1 - 1st
2 - Yes
3 - Yes
4 - 40,157
5 - Hibbo

;-)
Alex Kociuba
28 Posted 02/08/2011 at 16:18:36
1. 6th
2. No
3. Yes
4. 34,500
5. Fellaini
Ray Roche
29 Posted 02/08/2011 at 16:32:36
1. 5th
2. No
3. Yes
4. 34,750
5. Baines
Dennis Stevens
30 Posted 02/08/2011 at 16:25:35
1. 9th

2. No chance

3. Definitely

4. 32,123

5. Howard
Shane Corcoran
31 Posted 02/08/2011 at 16:40:38
1. 8th
2. No
3. Yes (unless Bill is gone too)
4. 32,750
5. Arteta
John Audsley
32 Posted 02/08/2011 at 16:44:09
1. 9th
2. No
3. Yes
4. 34,500
5. Distin
Dennis Stevens
33 Posted 02/08/2011 at 16:45:22
Re 5. I'd say Osman as far as outfield players go, as he's the best we have that I'm confident won't be sold!
Stephen Kenny
34 Posted 02/08/2011 at 16:44:36
1. 4th
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. 36,000
5. Fellaini

I'll go one further and add a few more predictions.

I expect Beckford to score 1 in 2 based on starts.

I expect Big Mo if fit to come through as one of the most dominant CM's since Viera at Arsenal.

I expect Arteta to be a damn sight better than he was last year, which by virtue of his quality means he will be in the running for player of the year.

Baines will by the end of next season be established as the best left back in the country, if he isn't already?

Cahill will not play more than 25 games next season, but will score past the RS.

Chris Bannantyne
35 Posted 02/08/2011 at 16:43:16
Haha! What fun.

1. 6th
2. No (i hope I'm wrong though)
3. Yes
4. 33000
5. Hibbert (he will score 1 goal, the match winner against the RS at Goodison)
Ian McDowell
36 Posted 02/08/2011 at 16:56:41
1. 8th
2. No
3. Yes, but will be gone by August 31st
4. 34.750
5. Jagielka
Wayne Smyth
37 Posted 02/08/2011 at 17:00:13
1. 5th
2. No
3. Yes
4. 34000
5. Fellaini
Chris Rudd
38 Posted 02/08/2011 at 16:50:52
1. 6th
2. Oh why not!
3. Yes
4. 34,000
5. Fellaini (or Moutinho)
Ciarán McGlone
39 Posted 02/08/2011 at 17:01:56
1) 7th.

2) Unforuntately not.

3) Of Course.

4) 32k... We're mugs.

5) Rodwell.
Paul Meehan
40 Posted 02/08/2011 at 16:59:14
1) 1st
2) Yes
3) No (but Mourinho will...)
4) 50,000
5) Homare Sawa (Japan Women's World Cup Winning Captain...)

Nil Satis Nisi Optimistic...
Mike Gaynes
41 Posted 02/08/2011 at 16:58:18
1. 6th (Spurs are a mirage)
2. No... lose at Wembley again
3. Definitely
4. One less than I would like... I still can't make it over for a game next season
5. Fellaini
David Holroyd
42 Posted 02/08/2011 at 17:18:15
12th
No Chance
Yes
31750
Baines
Brian Waring
43 Posted 02/08/2011 at 17:20:19
1. 8th
2. NO!
3. Yes ( Turns round and cries into hands )
4. 34, 680
5. Arteta
6. +2 GD
Michael Evans
44 Posted 02/08/2011 at 17:41:01
It would be fascinating to know DM + BK's answers to these questions !
Richard Parker
45 Posted 02/08/2011 at 17:50:16
1. 8th
2. Fuck no
3. Errrrrm, does the pope shit in the woods?
4. 35,000
5. Baines
Brian Waring
46 Posted 02/08/2011 at 17:53:32
Michael, BK would probalby say
" Don't ask me, I'm just the chairman "
Richard Parker
47 Posted 02/08/2011 at 17:52:48
Michael#43 - did you mean fascinating? Or frightening?
Stu Gore
48 Posted 02/08/2011 at 18:14:09
1) 3rd
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) 34750
5) Who's the second reserve keeper?
James Stewart
49 Posted 02/08/2011 at 18:26:05
7th
No
Yes
34k
Fellaini
Stephen Doyle
50 Posted 02/08/2011 at 18:38:32
1) 8th
2) No
3)No
4)34,000
5)Coleman
Phil Bellis
51 Posted 02/08/2011 at 19:18:35
EJ,
I had great pleasure in collecting 2 weeks abroad from the bookies in respect of a wager on the quantity of PL goals scored by J Beckford last season...money for old rope
The lad is a real throwback;.my type of greedy bastard - how many would he score with Ball behind him, Sheedy to his left or Gray alongside
Terry Maddock
52 Posted 02/08/2011 at 19:20:32
1) 5th
2) No
3) Yes
>4) 36,875
5) Baines
6) +11
Brendan O'Doherty
53 Posted 02/08/2011 at 19:26:20
6th
Of course not.
Yes, but not in June.
32,632
Barton

David Hallwood
54 Posted 02/08/2011 at 19:32:34
Groundhog Day refer to last season oh and the season before that
Jon Cox
55 Posted 02/08/2011 at 19:44:51
1. 6th
2.no
3.yes
4.33,000
5, size 4 1/2
Andrew Yates
56 Posted 02/08/2011 at 20:13:21
1. 8th
2. Yes, i say Yes the amazing Carling Cup??)
3. Yes
4. 34,750
5. Coleman (double figures from the wing!)
Dave Lynch
57 Posted 02/08/2011 at 20:43:19
1. 1st
2. The treble
3. Yes
4. 42,000
5. Messi
Sean Patton
58 Posted 02/08/2011 at 20:40:05
In for a penny

1. 6th
2. No (sadly)
3. Yes (even more sadly)
4. 34878
5. Barkley
Joe McMahon
59 Posted 02/08/2011 at 20:58:25
1 10th
2 No
3 Yes (he's here for bloody life)
4 32500
5 Beckford (if given enough playing time)
Denis Richardson
60 Posted 02/08/2011 at 20:58:13
1. 7th
2. When pigs start flying
3. Yes (3m a year is a lot of glue)
4. 33,500
5. Barton (if he doesn't come Baines)
Paul Olsen
61 Posted 02/08/2011 at 21:16:57
1) What position will we NOT finish above?
6th

2) Will we win anything?
Nope

3) Will Moyes be there in May?
Yes

4) Average Goodison Park attendance (within 500)?
33000

5) Player of the Season?
Osman
Duncan McDine
62 Posted 02/08/2011 at 21:30:11
Strange that only a few have picked up on the badly worded first question. If we say we won't get above 1st position then that will of course be correct. A prediction for actual league placing would work better. On that basis here's mine:-

1) 6th
2) No
3) Yes
4) 34,750
5) Fellaini
Anthony Flack
63 Posted 02/08/2011 at 21:50:28
9th
No... but lose semi
Yes... and largely happy about that
36,500
Beckford ? seriously
GD: - 2

John Crook
64 Posted 02/08/2011 at 21:57:34
1 - 5th
2 - No
3 - Yes
4 - 35,000
5 - Baines
Tim O'Connell
65 Posted 02/08/2011 at 21:46:53
6th
no
yes (essential)
32,750
Baines (the best left back in the country)
Barry Johnson
66 Posted 02/08/2011 at 22:02:12
13th
No
No
28,500
Howard
GD -9
And I think thats optimistic
Dick Fearon
67 Posted 02/08/2011 at 22:08:44
My pick of the above is Chris # 34, Hibbo's one and only goal is the winner vs the RS at Anfield.
Christopher De Costa
68 Posted 02/08/2011 at 22:16:37
7th
yes
without a doubt
33000
Jags (If still here)
Nick Flack
69 Posted 02/08/2011 at 22:32:17
3rd
No
Probably
34,000
Baines
Ciarán McGlone
70 Posted 02/08/2011 at 22:30:00
I'd love to know what bet and odds for Beckford could win a man a holiday.
Martin Faulkner
71 Posted 02/08/2011 at 23:06:55
5th
Yes
Definitely
31,700
Beckford
Eugene Ruane
72 Posted 02/08/2011 at 23:10:02
Dave Brooks (17) in answer to your question 6, yes I do live in Gothenburg, but not permanently (thank Christ!). I'm on a 6 month contract. My sentence is up 11th of Oct and I'm counting the hours (the first week here they put me up in a hotel and I was so bored, I phoned reception and ASKED for a bible).
Matthew Tait
73 Posted 02/08/2011 at 23:16:48
7th
Sadly... no.
Yes
33,600
Joey Barton... ha! Yeah, right. Baines.
Steve Sweeney
74 Posted 02/08/2011 at 23:43:21
11th
No
Yes
29,175
Vellios
Jay Harris
75 Posted 02/08/2011 at 23:51:31
1) What position will we NOT finish above?
9th

2) Will we win anything?
The title of "poverty stricken over achievers"

3) Will Moyes be there in May?
Yes but only for a month or two

4) Average Goodison Park attendance (within 500)?
33,000

5) Player of the Season?
Fellaini closely challenged by Baines if he' s still here.
David Mathieson
76 Posted 02/08/2011 at 23:51:00
1. 9th
2. NO
3. YES
4. CUP:27,183; League: 31,416
5. Arteta
Fran Mitchell
77 Posted 03/08/2011 at 00:03:19
8th
No
Yes
33,500
Barton...
Fran Mitchell
78 Posted 03/08/2011 at 00:10:32
Actually, we won't sign him as he won't agree agree a pay-us-as-you-play agreement.

So I'll go with Rodwell...
John Daley
79 Posted 02/08/2011 at 23:50:38
1) 11th
2) No chance
3) Oh aye, and he'll already be hard at work preparing his list of possible transfer targets for the summer. Just in case like. It'll be like that scene from the Shining, but instead of "all work & no play makes Jack a dull boy", it'll simply say "Just fucking somebody. Anybody." over and over and over again. Then he'll probably sulk for about six weeks straight before offering 'Phil' a six year contract extension as a sign of intent and organising a pre-season friendly against pissing Preston. Again.
4) 32,971
5) Fellaini
Tom Harries
80 Posted 03/08/2011 at 00:42:48
7th
No
Yes, but he'll be gone by the start of 2012-13
33,000
Baines
Kenn Crawford
81 Posted 03/08/2011 at 01:02:48
9th
No (sadly)
Yes (unfortunately)
33,200
Fellaini
Lee Smith
82 Posted 03/08/2011 at 01:58:07
1. 8th
2. No
3. Early May - Yes, Late May, No
4. 34250
5. Coleman
Liu Weixian
83 Posted 03/08/2011 at 06:13:09
1.7th
2. No
3. Yes
4. 35,000
5. Baines
Dave Wilson
84 Posted 03/08/2011 at 06:12:59
Success SHOULD be measured by improvement. If we reverse the placings with three of the mega rich clubs who finished above us last season, that will be success; it's a tall order.

1) No lower than 5th.

2) Win something? Well the odds are stacked against every team ? check with the bookies ? but given the required luck, why not?

3) Yes

4) 34,000

5) That`ll be a local boy.
Ryan Rosenberg
85 Posted 03/08/2011 at 07:06:47
1) 7th
2) No
3) Yes
4) 35,000
5) Fellaini
Ray Said
86 Posted 03/08/2011 at 07:51:09
1. 9th ? if we don't have the same start as last season; 15th if we do
2. No ? early exit from both cups
3. Yes ? worse luck
4. 31,750-
5. Distin
Vishal Poorundersingh
87 Posted 03/08/2011 at 07:56:52
1. 1st
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. 40,200
5. Yobo
Dave O'Reilly
88 Posted 03/08/2011 at 08:43:02
5th
No
No
33,500
Barkley

Barkley will only win it if Moyes has too many injuries and is forced to play him. This guy is class. Sell Arteta, he's on too much money and we need to cash in while we can.

Play Barkley ? this young lad IS the future.

Gareth Humphreys
89 Posted 03/08/2011 at 08:51:13
(1) 7th
(2) Yes
(3) Yes
(4) 34000
(5) Fellaini
Mike Oates
90 Posted 03/08/2011 at 09:23:30
8th
No
Yes
33200
Baines
Lee Courtliff
91 Posted 03/08/2011 at 09:28:20
1- 3rd.
2- Yes(God knows we are due).
3- Yes.
4- 34,000.
5- Fellaini.
Derek Thomas
92 Posted 03/08/2011 at 09:34:45
1) 5th
2) Not a shit show
3) Yes
4) 33,276
5) Baines
Charlie Dixon
93 Posted 03/08/2011 at 09:50:48
1. 6th
2. No
3. No
4. 35,600
5. Rodwell
Alan Rooney
94 Posted 03/08/2011 at 11:10:16
1. Ist - one up from 2nd last season
2. Women's FA Cup
3. Yes - he'll swap places with Mo MArley
4. 685
5. Jill Scott
Dave Richman
95 Posted 03/08/2011 at 11:32:16
1) 6th
2) No
3) Yes
4) 34,200
5) Baines
David Chait
96 Posted 03/08/2011 at 11:40:40
1. 3rd
2. No
3. Yes
4. 35,000
5. Fellaini

Agreed, Dave Wilson (first question should be asked differently). I don't feel we'll be lower than 7th, but expect 5th.
Sam Morrison
97 Posted 03/08/2011 at 12:11:33
Good one, Eugene:

1. 7th.
2. Probably not.
3. Yes
4. 33,500
5. If he doesn't get injured, Fellaini. If he does, Baines.
Eugene Ruane
98 Posted 03/08/2011 at 12:22:05
David 'the optimist' Chait (94) ? seems to me it doesn't matter HOW the first question is asked if you're going to cover your arse with THREE different positions as you have.

FFS ? "Could be 12th but hope for 1st, likely to be 6th, but might be 14th, though on reflection..."

There's no prize money, just pick a bleedin' position.

(Reminds me of the Ron Jeremy gag ? he entered a wanking competition and finished first... third and eighth!)
Matt Butlin
99 Posted 03/08/2011 at 12:36:23
Let's hope Dave Chait knows something we don't !!!

1. 6th
2. No (maybe a few corners)
3. Yes
4. 32,500
5. Baines
Dave Brooks
100 Posted 03/08/2011 at 12:51:30
Eugene (#69) -
Sorry to hear that, but at least it's not terminal, eh?

Have you been over to Bränno yet? It's very nice over there. Once saw a Ring Ouzel on Bränno.

You'd rather die? After four months in Gothenburg, I understand. Keep a paper bag close to hand and continue with the breathing exercises...
Eugene Ruane
101 Posted 03/08/2011 at 13:11:58
Dave (98) I'm being harsh I'm sure and to be fair, I haven't really got off my arse and 'explored'.

The people are 'nice', the place is erm... 'nice', it's just a little... reserved.

Still on the plus side, you can go to the Systembolaget (offie) without having to push your way past feral, be-trackied toe-rags, informing each other of the merits of Glocks over Desert Eagles.

"The Glock automatic lad, shhhhorted lad, 17 in the chamber lad, shhhhouuuuuund as a pound lad, knowarramean"

Or...whatever deluded, desperate, pretend-gangster shite they're on about.
Dave Brooks
102 Posted 03/08/2011 at 13:32:56
Well Eugene, I can see the appeal then.

Joking apart, take the boat over to Bränno. Try to avoid the weekends when it gets too busy. Go for a walk. There are no cars and the wildlife's fabulous. We were knocked out by the Eider Ducks... big rafts of hundreds of them floating out in the bays... Oh, and they brew their own beer (the islanders, not the ducks).

That all sounds so nice when I put it like that.

Er... BK OUT! There... that's better.
Dave Wilson
103 Posted 03/08/2011 at 13:20:01
But shouldn't the positives be allowed to edge their bets a little? Let's face it, ANYTHING outside European qualification will be deemed as mid table mediocrity and therefore dismissed as abject failure.

And there will be 92 teams in the FA Cup, only one of them will win it, so it's a million times easier to play the percentage and say, No, we won't win it, than to give a catagorical YES ? even if you do think we are in with a real shout.
Peter Warren
104 Posted 03/08/2011 at 14:09:54
1. N/A we shall win the league

2.Yes the League and Champions League

3.No he'll be at Real Madrid
4. 36,000
5Anichebe
Michael Kidd
105 Posted 03/08/2011 at 14:22:03
1. 6th
2. No
3. Yes
4. 33500
5. Bob Latchford.
Eugene Ruane
106 Posted 03/08/2011 at 14:09:51
Dave Wilson (101) - Fuck me, FULL of it last week you were (and laughing boy).

You were giving it loads and because I was ?negative? about our chances of success, I was a 'miserable twat' I believe.

Oh and remember this ? ?The shrewed, hard nosed cynics, as they like to see themselves will always want to tell you what we wont do, but you`ll have noticed they dont have the courage to stick their necks out and say what we will do?.

Funny that coz it now appears it's YOU who won't stick his neck out.

Seriously, of the two people who were most mouthy and 'positive' last week, one has given THREE finishing positions and the other is looking for excuses BEFORE the first game!

Pathetic!

(seriously, if it's too much pressure for you, just leave it)
Mike Green
107 Posted 03/08/2011 at 14:30:28
1 - 7th
2 - No, quarters of a cup.
3 - Yes
4 - 36,000
5 - Beckford, then Coleman, then Baines.
Andrew Gilbert
108 Posted 03/08/2011 at 14:52:10
1 - 4th
2 - No
3 - Yes
4 - 35.428
5 - Vellios
Dave Wilson
109 Posted 03/08/2011 at 14:43:08
Oh dear More histrionics.

I leave calling people "twats" to the err twats.
Not sure who called you a miserable twat, but I can tell you it wasnt me.

Now let me ONCE AGAIN try to explain what is blinding obvious to "EVERYONE" else.

it doesnt matter which team you support, the odds against your team winning something are AGAINST. but I suspect you know that ?
You might get say 3-1 for Man United and maybe 11/1 for Spurs and maybe 16/1 for Everton.

Theres an awful lot of grey between evens and 16/1 . .yet you want to make it a straight yes or no ? - an even money bet - Its a typical negative cant-win-dont-try-question and its utter bollocks - "fuck all the grey stuff YES OR NO" . . .What did you expect ? ? ? everyone to go for the 16/1 shot and forefit "gloating rights" . . and whats gloating rights ??? you will fucken gloat if Everton do badly ? ? ?

Try rounding on the bottlers who changed the subject or hide behind sarcastic posts.

And if its a straight down the line, no hiding behind loaded questions, nail your colours to the mast bet your after, then stop dancing around the houses.

My "we`ll improve on last seasons points tally and league position" against your "we`ll get less points and finish lower"

And if by some fucken miracle you happen to be right, you can gloat to your pessimistic little hearts content
Mike Green
110 Posted 03/08/2011 at 17:12:08
Question 2 ought to be what position will we NOT finish below, shouldn't it..?

If so - 10th.
Denis Byrne
111 Posted 03/08/2011 at 18:30:57
1. 1st - no danger
2. O aye, league and fa cup and subbueto cup semis with a good run in the fairs cup
3. Wierd question, long live the Cat
4. 62,347
5. Eusebio
Dean Adams
112 Posted 03/08/2011 at 19:22:15
Duncan McDine (61)

I will go with all your answers and your statement. The question kind of left me scratching my head as it is so ambiguous. Fair play though to ER good posers for us to all to put our belief to.
Eugene Ruane
113 Posted 03/08/2011 at 20:34:22
Woah, woah, WOAH!!

Dave Wilson - (108 AND 109) - ever heard of Vicky Pollard?

"Yeah but no but yeah but no but.."

Jesus, how rattled are YOU!?

You talk about histrionics after THIS?

"Theres an awful lot of grey between evens and 16/1 . .yet you want to make it a straight yes or no ? - an even money bet - Its a typical negative cant-win-dont-try-question and its utter bollocks - "fuck all the grey stuff YES OR NO" . . .What did you expect ? ? ? everyone to go for the 16/1 shot and forefit "gloating rights" . . and whats gloating rights ??? you will fucken gloat if Everton do badly ? ? ?"

And breeeeeeeaaathe out.

Dave, ONCE again (as I pointed out last week), you resort to describing anyone who doesn't agree with you as guilty of 'histrionics', or 'losing their cool', or they should 'calm down' etc etc.

Dave, these are DESPERATE and OBVIOUS diversionary tactics and consequently, useless. (and I'll be honest, I'm worried - you just don't seem as...well, positive as you were last week).

Fact: For the record, I didn't force you to do anything difficult (like spell cheese), all you had to do was pick a position or....NOT (nb: that simple Dave - nobody was forcing you to do anything - you could have ignored the post ffs).

Seriously, if anyone is coming across a tad flustered and not at all smiley and..um full of jolly jaunty positivity', it's you.

Oh and thank you for (once again!) illustrating my point about you desperately trying to drag the world along with your increasingly piss-weak and badly-constructed posts by including 'everyone else' in EVERY post.

(nb: I feel SOOOO bad when I read that and I think "Oh NO, everyone agrees with Dave not me!").

Anyway, shall we put you down for 2nd or 3rd?

Clicks heels, whistles: 'Zippedy do daaaaaar....'
Jamie Crowley
114 Posted 03/08/2011 at 22:22:16
1. 7th
2. No
3. Yes
4. 32,500
5. Felliani

@87 Dave - I certainly hope you're right with Barkley. Saw the kid on the TV when they came to America - kid looks fantastic and I think he's got a very bright future. But he won't play b/c Moyes will bleed him in slowly...
Neil Verdin
115 Posted 03/08/2011 at 22:45:43
7th, no, hopefully, 30000, osman,

At last, Kenwright speaks about Kirkby... first time I have ever seen him angry!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIQvTcDU-JY&feature=related
Dennis Stevens
116 Posted 03/08/2011 at 23:15:11
Dave are you mixed up between the FA Cup & the League Cup? Without Non-League clubs the FA Cup would lose a little more of it's magic, imho.
David Chait
117 Posted 04/08/2011 at 07:52:25
Eugene I did, I said 3rd. Pick what you want out of it.
David Chait
118 Posted 04/08/2011 at 07:54:49
Mike (109) I don't get Q1 at all. Why we couldn't simpy be asked "Where will we finish?" I think it goes to the psyche of the poster more than anything else.
Eugene Ruane
119 Posted 04/08/2011 at 08:15:27
David Chait (117) - Coz I'm playin' with your melon.

"ZzzzWWOOOoooooooOOOOOOOOOOoooooohhh"

(waves hands around head)
Michael Evans
120 Posted 04/08/2011 at 09:07:04
I always struggled with questions like this that require higher functioning cognitive reasoning.

So let's get this right .... train A leaves point X at 10am travelling at an average speed of 86 kmph ... whilst train B leaves point Y at 11am travelling at an average speed of 98 kmph ....

That means in the first hour train A will travel ... whilst train B will travel...shit, no, that can't be right..... erm

And we have to work out the uniform weight of the snack trolley ?

erm ...........

Mike Green
121 Posted 04/08/2011 at 09:47:01
You're right, David (117). 7th.
Dave Wilson
122 Posted 04/08/2011 at 07:46:45
Eugene

Its simple really. you either

A) simply didnt realise you were actually taking 12 choices - if we finish 9th or lower, wise old Eugene will be proved right.

B) You knew you were taking 12 choices but believed others were stupid enough not to see what you were up to

c) You - the witchfinder General of badly constructed posts - constructed your question in such a half witted manner, that anybody claiming we wouldnt finish higher than 1st would have been proved right..

If I say we wont finish higher than 4th . .then I`m still right if we finish 4th,5th, 6th . . aaaalllll the way down to 20th.

I can understand you want to seek the comfort of being part of a group, but when you claim I accuse "everyone" of hysteria your wrong and you know it. the only person I say that to is you, not "EVERYONE" (see any irony there ?) Maybe its because you waste so much time berating people over the tiniest point.
why ? . . do you expect EVERYONE you berate to flounce ? ? ?

If there is one regular poster to this site blessed with the wit to dismantle a point in one line, then its probably you . . . so what gives with the christian brother lectures ?

As long you put so much effort into lecturing others for badly constructed posts you will leave yourself wide open to ridicule. People will snigger when YOUR post doesnt make any sense. You should be thanking David Chait for pointing this out, not berating him



Stick to the footy Eugene ffs, its the ONLY reason we are here.


Anto Byrne
123 Posted 04/08/2011 at 10:32:24
No expectations this season but I reckon we can do 20 draws this time around easy. Park the bus on the fucking goalline.
Gary Seed
124 Posted 04/08/2011 at 10:14:43
I think the questions asked were to generate a bit of banter and busy ourselves whilst we wait for 'Arry' to realise we were 'POSSIBLY' , and I use that word very loosely, speaking to Joey 'released without charge' Barton to jump in to sign him!!

My point is ...... It's not very hard! If you're struggling to understand the questions then I suggest you switch Peppa Pig off and concentrate properly !!

1. 5th
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. 36,450
5. Haines

There, that didn't hurt !

Gary Seed
125 Posted 04/08/2011 at 10:38:04
And incase your wondering who Haines is? He's coming on a free from Didcot Athletic! What a fucking loser I am! B B B B sines! Ha ha!!!
Gary Seed
126 Posted 04/08/2011 at 10:40:55
Anyone got any cures for dyslexia?
Dave Lynch
127 Posted 04/08/2011 at 10:54:41
Try a spell check Gary...
Mike Gray
128 Posted 04/08/2011 at 11:23:19
1. 14. I honestly do, sadly!! No strength in depth.
2. No
3. Yes
4. 30000
5. Saha, oh well, we can dream!!
Eugene Ruane
129 Posted 04/08/2011 at 11:25:47
Dave (121).

1) It
2) Really
3) Wasn't
4) Very
5) Difficult.
Dave Wilson
130 Posted 04/08/2011 at 11:42:23
I know.

I entered into intended the spirit of the thread and was enjoying it. . . . Until post 97.

No need
Ian Simpson
131 Posted 04/08/2011 at 13:09:50
1---first
2--yes
3--yes
4--41,000
5--messi
Eugene Ruane
132 Posted 04/08/2011 at 14:39:27
Michael Evans (119) My calculations say the weight of the trolly would be 9 pound 8 oz (unless there's a plate of sausage-rolls on it, in which case 8 stone).

Ian Simpson,(129) - Question number 5 was 'Who will be player of the year?', not 'what will things get after we pick up a couple of injuries?'.

Dave (128), picking 1-5 would have been 'entering the spirit' (clue: like 99% of everyone else).

Whining 'yeah but no but' and NOT picking 1-5 wasn't.

And what's your problem with (my) post 97?

David 'The Optimist' Chait (95) picked THREE final positions and I pointed this out - why was that a problem for YOU?
Danny Lizars
133 Posted 04/08/2011 at 16:19:55
1. 6th
2. No
3. Yes
4. 35,500
5. Baines or Fellaini
Dave Wilson
134 Posted 04/08/2011 at 19:12:15
I did enter the spirit of the thread . .then you kicked off.

David "The Optomist" Chait(95)Picked THREE final positions and I pointed this out - why was that a problem to YOU ?

Drums chin with fingers . .wonders if Graphs would help

Eric Holland
135 Posted 04/08/2011 at 20:18:42
1 12th
2 No
3 fraid so
4 32,461
5 Bily
Fact.
Steve Smith
136 Posted 04/08/2011 at 22:11:44
1. We definitely won't finish above 1st.
2. Yes, we will win quite a few games I reckon.
3. Be where ? and if so beware !
4. Our attendance is always average, that's why we need better corporate stuff !
5. Hibbo, and top scorer aswell with a humongous total of 2 !
Steve Moore
137 Posted 04/08/2011 at 23:20:05
1) 5th
2) why not
3) yes
4) 36,500
5) Gueye
Brendan McLaughlin
138 Posted 04/08/2011 at 23:42:43
1) Doggy
2) Several matches
3) I'm sure May sure as hell hopes so
4) 499
5) Blue Bill
Adam Bennett
139 Posted 05/08/2011 at 01:03:40
1) 7th.

2) I think the Carling Cup is possible.

3) Yes. By August may be different depending on what clubs will be looking. I fear a Tottenham approach if Redknapp leaves.

4) 33,200.

5) Arteta.
Eugene Ruane
140 Posted 05/08/2011 at 14:10:12
One thing that struck me after reading all the answers to question 4) - it seems if you take all the answers and then work out (ie: guess!) the average, it suggests that quite a few seem to think we could lose between 2000 and 3000 supporters this season.

Just an observation like.
Dave Wilson
141 Posted 05/08/2011 at 16:21:23
The Echo have stolen your survey !

Cheeky bastards !
Andy Crooks
142 Posted 05/08/2011 at 20:04:00
Dave Wilson, I've just got back from a couple of days away and read this entertaining thread. As you know I don't read the Echo so you elaborate a bit on your last post. Incidentally Eugene, I agree with you on Beckford. He will be a revelation this season.
The average gate is a very interesting question. I fear that a slow start will take us to around 30,000.
Andy Crooks
143 Posted 05/08/2011 at 20:10:27
Sorry, Dave ,I meant would you elaborate on your last post.
Roman Sidey
144 Posted 06/08/2011 at 06:06:36
1) 9th

2) Fulham at Goodison is a dead cert.

3) Fuckin hope not, but know he will be.

4) 32,000 - if we were playing Europa, you'd see this drop to about 26,000.

5) Howard - That's how bad our outfielders will be this year.
David Thomas
145 Posted 06/08/2011 at 10:52:39
Roman,

As optimistic as ever i see.
Roman Sidey
146 Posted 06/08/2011 at 12:33:38
Sorry David, but the only pre-season game I've been able to see has been the Philly game. Downer I missed the DC game as I heard it was a bit better.

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