Season 2011-12 Fan Articles
Osama Bin Kenwright or Bill Baden Powell?
By Michael Hegarty :: 19/08/2011
38 Comments (»Last)
Is Bill really the evil monster he is painted as by the majority of people that comment on Toffeeweb? I for one think not.
Yes, there have been cock-ups ? the biggest by far being the failure to land the Kings Dock when it was there for us on a plate. Things would be very different now if that had gone through.
But there are also many positives most notably Finch Farm and our increasing ability to produce top quality homegrown talent. This is vital to the future health of EFC because one day the Billionaires will get bored and leave, the Sky monopoly will end, and these sources of income will disappear/reduce. A half-decent young English player fetches circa £20M these days so, if we look at the Rodwell situation, we either get a good asset to the squad or a shedload of money if HE decides to move on.
I highlighted the ?HE? in the last sentence because I can?t recall any of our top players in the Kenwright era being sold against their will. In fact, we usually try so hard to keep them that they end up rejecting a record contract and going on strike to engineer a move.
I along with many others thought that the squad that had been amassed at the beginning of 2010-11 season was the best since the mid-eighties. The under-achievement on the pitch means that the extra source of income from Europe is not available to invest further in the team. This I?m afraid is a sign of the times... in fact, the only Premier League clubs with a positive net spend in this transfer window are the promoted clubs, the Champions League qualifiers and Liverpool & Wolves.
I am definitely in the minority and may be mad but I would hate to see a billionaire from the Far East take over and buy us a Champions League spot. It just wouldn?t sit right, watching 11 mercenaries on Goodison Park playing solely for the £200k per week wage and not at all for the blue shirt... but maybe that?s just me.
The squad is still not bad although we could really do with a decent striker. But what the club need to do is accept that there isn?t any transfer money available and plan to move forward using other methods. The Youth is bright and this is what the club should continue to focus on. Out of a core squad of 18; 11 Barcelona players came through their youth system. Let?s copy the Barcelona model long term and forget about trying to compete in the transfer market as it?s a false economy.
Bill is not perfect but give me him over Mike Ashley, Gillet & Hicks and the Venkys any day of the week.
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Mike Rourke
2 Posted 19/08/2011 at 14:43:33
2 Posted 19/08/2011 at 14:43:33
It must have been bloody painful for those City fans that sat through Aguero's 30 minute cameo.
I really feel for them.
I really feel for them.
Marc Williams
3 Posted 19/08/2011 at 14:43:50
3 Posted 19/08/2011 at 14:43:50
Michael ? How can Finch Farm be a positive ?
Look at the deal they signed. FFS it's akin to buying your home & its entire contents thru' 'Brighthouse'. Nice easy payments that go on & on & on, until you've paid for it 15-20 times over
Look at the deal they signed. FFS it's akin to buying your home & its entire contents thru' 'Brighthouse'. Nice easy payments that go on & on & on, until you've paid for it 15-20 times over
Tommy Coleman
4 Posted 19/08/2011 at 14:52:12
4 Posted 19/08/2011 at 14:52:12
Michael - It doesn't matter that you'd rather have him over other Chairmen, the fact is he has screwed up so many times and deserves the critisism that he gets.
It's like saying 'we've got Goebbels but at leaset he's not Hitler'.
It's like saying 'we've got Goebbels but at leaset he's not Hitler'.
Kevin Tully
5 Posted 19/08/2011 at 15:15:52
5 Posted 19/08/2011 at 15:15:52
I'll think you may change your tune when Arteta goes.
Paul Smiith
7 Posted 19/08/2011 at 16:09:42
7 Posted 19/08/2011 at 16:09:42
"in fact, the only Premier League clubs with a positive net spend in this transfer window are the promoted clubs, the Champions League qualifiers and Liverpool & Wolves"
So that's 9 clubs out of 20 ? nearly half!!!???!!!
"Osama Bin Kenwright" definately not, his heart is in the right place. "Bill Baden Powell" he certainly isn't either as he is in this well over his head and really doesn't have any idea what to do??
He needs to leave and leave ASAP.
So that's 9 clubs out of 20 ? nearly half!!!???!!!
"Osama Bin Kenwright" definately not, his heart is in the right place. "Bill Baden Powell" he certainly isn't either as he is in this well over his head and really doesn't have any idea what to do??
He needs to leave and leave ASAP.
Eric Myles
8 Posted 19/08/2011 at 16:20:22
8 Posted 19/08/2011 at 16:20:22
I stopped reading at this
"But there are also many positives most notably Finch Farm"
How can paying 1.5 million a year for 50 years for a faciltiy we sold for 8 million be a positive??
"But there are also many positives most notably Finch Farm"
How can paying 1.5 million a year for 50 years for a faciltiy we sold for 8 million be a positive??
Gerry Quinn
9 Posted 19/08/2011 at 16:45:12
9 Posted 19/08/2011 at 16:45:12
The Captain of the Titanic didn't quit his position either!
We need to alter course.....
We need to alter course.....
Michael Hegarty
10 Posted 19/08/2011 at 17:02:37
10 Posted 19/08/2011 at 17:02:37
Paul @6. But 8 of those 9 clubs are due to exceptional circumstances and where we to experience the same circumstances (champions league, promotion, takeover).we would be buying as well. That only leaves 1 club Wolves who have a net spend of approx +£3mil.
Finch Farm is a success as long as it continues to produce what it was designed for. £1.5 mil p.a. for a Ross Barkley every year is better business than £20 mil for a Jordan Henderson.
Finch Farm is a success as long as it continues to produce what it was designed for. £1.5 mil p.a. for a Ross Barkley every year is better business than £20 mil for a Jordan Henderson.
Gavin Ramejkis
11 Posted 19/08/2011 at 17:18:07
11 Posted 19/08/2011 at 17:18:07
Michael a fundamental flaw in the reasoning; Finch Farm doesn't and never will create talent - that is simply there as an inanimate building and facilities used to train players, it may help iron out faults and give them ideas to try they haven't seen before. If any other team spots them first or signs them first it doesn't matter how good they are we won't get them and Finch Farm will have had no impact in their development
Michael Hegarty
12 Posted 19/08/2011 at 17:33:26
12 Posted 19/08/2011 at 17:33:26
Oh I didn't realise that Gav, we should've just threw a couple of jumpers down in Sefton park and called that our new academy/training facility then.
Top class facilities definitely makes a difference in both attracting the young talent and developing them. Obviously coupled with the work scouts and coaches do.
Top class facilities definitely makes a difference in both attracting the young talent and developing them. Obviously coupled with the work scouts and coaches do.
Eric Myles
13 Posted 19/08/2011 at 17:41:46
13 Posted 19/08/2011 at 17:41:46
Michael, I'd rather go to a run down school with great teachers I can learn from than a state of the art school with crap teachers that I know more than.
Andy Crooks
14 Posted 19/08/2011 at 17:46:57
14 Posted 19/08/2011 at 17:46:57
Michael, I admire your defence.Someone had to do it.
Andy Crooks
15 Posted 19/08/2011 at 17:50:28
15 Posted 19/08/2011 at 17:50:28
Sorry, I hadn't quite finished. I would add that I disagree with you.Bill Kenwright is a free loading luvvy whose utter ineptitude has brought the club to it's knees.
Marc Williams
16 Posted 19/08/2011 at 18:13:49
16 Posted 19/08/2011 at 18:13:49
Michael 9 - NO... a success would be setting up Finch Farm for the £8 mil' it actually cost NOT having to pay £75 mil' because he couldn't find the investment he continually promised.
The man is a "Snake oil salesman" & his backers nothing more than "Carpet baggers".
The man is a "Snake oil salesman" & his backers nothing more than "Carpet baggers".
Michael Hegarty
17 Posted 19/08/2011 at 18:13:01
17 Posted 19/08/2011 at 18:13:01
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he's perfect, I just don't think he, or everything he has done, is as bad as it's made out to be on here. And be careful what you wish for, because if he goes the alternative could be a damn site worse.
I think similar of David Moyes; he makes us competitive and hard to beat but he can be so negative and really struggles to find ways of breaking lesser teams down when they do a "Moyes" on him. But I wouldn't change him either because there isn't anyone better for Everton football club out there. If we rock the boat by removing either of these two integral people there's only one way we'll go...down.
I think similar of David Moyes; he makes us competitive and hard to beat but he can be so negative and really struggles to find ways of breaking lesser teams down when they do a "Moyes" on him. But I wouldn't change him either because there isn't anyone better for Everton football club out there. If we rock the boat by removing either of these two integral people there's only one way we'll go...down.
Marc Williams
18 Posted 19/08/2011 at 18:52:25
18 Posted 19/08/2011 at 18:52:25
Michael 16 - " If we rock the boat etc we'll go down "
FFS... Do you not understand what he's admitted this week " We've sent a document to the bank asking not to kill us this season "
For over 12 months I & many others have been saying that there will at some point be a 'Fire sale' of players, as they are the only thing he hasn't mortgaged ! Where the fuck do you think we're going then eh fella ? I suspect it won't be on a European tour !
FFS... Do you not understand what he's admitted this week " We've sent a document to the bank asking not to kill us this season "
For over 12 months I & many others have been saying that there will at some point be a 'Fire sale' of players, as they are the only thing he hasn't mortgaged ! Where the fuck do you think we're going then eh fella ? I suspect it won't be on a European tour !
Andrew Mackenzie
19 Posted 19/08/2011 at 18:58:55
19 Posted 19/08/2011 at 18:58:55
Go on, this is Ian Ross really isn't it... I take my hat off to you Ian, you must have put in a shift in the last couple of days, go on, leave work, have a pint and relax, hoping they win tomorrow... or you may have a few more long days in the coming weeks...
Good effort though, nearly forgot the list of players that have come through Everton and we have sold over the years, and that lovely warm cuddy chairman misleading us over Kd, Kirkby, Chris 'the cheques in the bank tomorow' Samuelson (Fortress), banning AGMs, telling other shareholders 'I am bored with you', Everton Place ha ha, Kitbag, Park End (he was a director before some wag points out he was not the Chair... there are numerous other gaffs, 24/7, 'wow', 'watch this space'....
Unbelievable, simply unbelievable.
Good effort though, nearly forgot the list of players that have come through Everton and we have sold over the years, and that lovely warm cuddy chairman misleading us over Kd, Kirkby, Chris 'the cheques in the bank tomorow' Samuelson (Fortress), banning AGMs, telling other shareholders 'I am bored with you', Everton Place ha ha, Kitbag, Park End (he was a director before some wag points out he was not the Chair... there are numerous other gaffs, 24/7, 'wow', 'watch this space'....
Unbelievable, simply unbelievable.
Michael Hegarty
20 Posted 19/08/2011 at 19:19:48
20 Posted 19/08/2011 at 19:19:48
Jesus, you're like a pair of Velociraptors; just when you think you've got one in your sights the other one attacks you from the side.
What I'm trying to do is show in a balanced way that not everything he has done has been bad. Your opinions (Marc & Andrew) are so biased to the negative that you seem to miss or choose to ignore any positives that have occurred since he's been here.
Back on FF; Yes we may have been stiffed on the terms of the lease but have you seen those adverts on Sky offering loans with APR's of 1000+%. Well we're sort of in that position. But still this is the equivelant of one player on 29k p.w. salary and in the long term FF will be far more valuable to us. I'm not saying it was the only way of making sure it went ahead, but if it was, I would have done the same. And please at least agree that we are seeing more than our fair share of good youngsters coming through.
What I'm trying to do is show in a balanced way that not everything he has done has been bad. Your opinions (Marc & Andrew) are so biased to the negative that you seem to miss or choose to ignore any positives that have occurred since he's been here.
Back on FF; Yes we may have been stiffed on the terms of the lease but have you seen those adverts on Sky offering loans with APR's of 1000+%. Well we're sort of in that position. But still this is the equivelant of one player on 29k p.w. salary and in the long term FF will be far more valuable to us. I'm not saying it was the only way of making sure it went ahead, but if it was, I would have done the same. And please at least agree that we are seeing more than our fair share of good youngsters coming through.
Andrew Mackenzie
21 Posted 19/08/2011 at 19:44:39
21 Posted 19/08/2011 at 19:44:39
I dont think we are seeing any more youngsters coming through than any other prem side, which to be fair is driven by the fact we have no money. Dare I ask you to recall Benfica? Small squad, injuries, 5 youngers = thrashing. Rooney = profit, Coleman (bought), Gosling (need I say anymore, and bought), Rodwell... a lot of hype and promise to be fulfilled, Anichibie (hilarious), Vaughan (bought?) and never out of treatment room, Barkley... wish him well but achieved nothing at top level.... and a whole host of promising players released... Osman and Hibert I accept, believe it was the unproductive Bellfield? Not knocking you Michael, just think you are a 3/4 full glass man! And good luck to you because I am just depressed that we are having to justify ourselves, and give every penny to our bank to just survive!
Gavin Ramejkis
22 Posted 19/08/2011 at 19:58:34
22 Posted 19/08/2011 at 19:58:34
Michael 11, you've missed the point again, the likes of Rooney have talent showing when they are about five or six years of age, seven tops, the academy can polish them but it doesn't make or break them, the other point you try to put across that the facilities attract them, well I'd be inclined to say a bigger club and more wedge would attract them, their parents unless die-hards would think about putting their kid on a gravy train with pedigree rather than a new shiny train with no railway track in front of it
Eugene Ruane
23 Posted 19/08/2011 at 20:18:05
23 Posted 19/08/2011 at 20:18:05
OP is just one whole heapin' helpin' of wrong. Genuinely wouldn't even know where to start.
Denis Richardson
24 Posted 19/08/2011 at 20:12:56
24 Posted 19/08/2011 at 20:12:56
Michael, I guess my one and only question to you would be this. Given the revelations of the last few days, current state of the squad and non too optimistic newar future outlook, do you or do you not want BK to remain in charge?
Please dont answer with the 'it depends who replaces him etc'. Either you think he can do the job or he can't.
I and I think most other people on this site (certainly after the last couple of days) fall into the 'no' category.
We can talk 'till the cows come home re the past, the important thing is the future and making sure the club does not go down the plug hole.
On another note, I sseriously doubt we will be producing one premiership quality player from the youth team every year! In the last 5 years I can only think of Rodwell and (just) maybe Vaughan with hopefully Barkely coming through. (I certainly dont count Anichebe as a premiership quality player).
Still nice to see someone whos positive, god knows I'd like to get back to there again!
Please dont answer with the 'it depends who replaces him etc'. Either you think he can do the job or he can't.
I and I think most other people on this site (certainly after the last couple of days) fall into the 'no' category.
We can talk 'till the cows come home re the past, the important thing is the future and making sure the club does not go down the plug hole.
On another note, I sseriously doubt we will be producing one premiership quality player from the youth team every year! In the last 5 years I can only think of Rodwell and (just) maybe Vaughan with hopefully Barkely coming through. (I certainly dont count Anichebe as a premiership quality player).
Still nice to see someone whos positive, god knows I'd like to get back to there again!
Michael Hegarty
25 Posted 19/08/2011 at 20:25:45
25 Posted 19/08/2011 at 20:25:45
Gavin, I don't think I am missing the point and you may be right about Rooney but his talent is rare. Nature v Nurture is a whole different argument but I've seen first hand, playing international sport, that having the best facilities available along with the best coaches etc does produce better athletes/sportsmen than making do with substandard facilities.
You're partly right with your bigger club/more wedge argument as well but that is only part of the package. The academy, training facilities and the opportunities these present for progression are selling points we can use to make us more attractive than even the Sky four.
You're partly right with your bigger club/more wedge argument as well but that is only part of the package. The academy, training facilities and the opportunities these present for progression are selling points we can use to make us more attractive than even the Sky four.
Michael Hegarty
26 Posted 19/08/2011 at 20:47:17
26 Posted 19/08/2011 at 20:47:17
Denis, I'd be a yes but qualify it with better the devil you know than the devil you don't. I think if we ever did get sold it would be a deal along the same lines as the Glazer's/Gillett & Hicks, were the deal is financed with debt. This is a recipe for disaster.
If someone did come in who genuinely had the funds to buy us I honestly believe Bill when he says he'd bite his hand off.
If someone did come in who genuinely had the funds to buy us I honestly believe Bill when he says he'd bite his hand off.
John Shaw
27 Posted 19/08/2011 at 20:27:27
27 Posted 19/08/2011 at 20:27:27
19-08-11
The following is from the Annual Report & Accounts of 2000-2001, at 31st May 2000 the company had a positive Balance Sheet of £7.4 million.
"Your Board of Directors will continue their vigilance in controlling costs and
improving income streams.
We must ensure that the financial benefits of the new TV contracts are not swallowed
up purely by transfer fees and escalating player wages.
Sound financial planning and control is vital, but always the Board will be mindful
that a successful team is our paramount aim."
Now, fast forward to 31st May 2010, given the above statement, and we find that we have a NEGATIVE Balance Sheet to the tune of £30 million, yes, NEGATIVE to the tune of £30 million !!!
Sort of suggests that the people running the club aren't very good !!
The following is from the Annual Report & Accounts of 2000-2001, at 31st May 2000 the company had a positive Balance Sheet of £7.4 million.
"Your Board of Directors will continue their vigilance in controlling costs and
improving income streams.
We must ensure that the financial benefits of the new TV contracts are not swallowed
up purely by transfer fees and escalating player wages.
Sound financial planning and control is vital, but always the Board will be mindful
that a successful team is our paramount aim."
Now, fast forward to 31st May 2010, given the above statement, and we find that we have a NEGATIVE Balance Sheet to the tune of £30 million, yes, NEGATIVE to the tune of £30 million !!!
Sort of suggests that the people running the club aren't very good !!
Andrew Mackenzie
28 Posted 19/08/2011 at 21:31:25
28 Posted 19/08/2011 at 21:31:25
I think Bill would agree with you John, before suing you ha ha, sorry couldnt resist,
He's the bestest fan though, the very bestest!
Nice to see us being touted as having a tough season in store with mighty Brom and Stoke fighting us for 10th! Nice way to break your silence Davey, nice! Maybe the Blue Union and us doomongers (realists where I come from) at Toffeeweb should sue the club for being negative...!
He's the bestest fan though, the very bestest!
Nice to see us being touted as having a tough season in store with mighty Brom and Stoke fighting us for 10th! Nice way to break your silence Davey, nice! Maybe the Blue Union and us doomongers (realists where I come from) at Toffeeweb should sue the club for being negative...!
Michael Hegarty
29 Posted 19/08/2011 at 21:38:04
29 Posted 19/08/2011 at 21:38:04
Alright I'm going to go; my glass is getting emptier with each post.
I like the statement from the new board though, that's the way I'd approach things.
You can all join me on cloud 9 (or cuckoo land) tomorrow when we've stuck four past QPR!
I like the statement from the new board though, that's the way I'd approach things.
You can all join me on cloud 9 (or cuckoo land) tomorrow when we've stuck four past QPR!
Gavin Ramejkis
30 Posted 19/08/2011 at 23:37:08
30 Posted 19/08/2011 at 23:37:08
Michael if the club goes pop what point the shiny rented building? Everton as a business moved selling players into its top line of it's finances instantly admitting it needs to sell to survive. I've read countless statements over the last few months which have said all teams sell players and even had them named but not once have I heard the sales of an Everton player over the last 2 years fund a replacement and that is very distinctly different from the arguments put across.
Dwindling resources to keep the banks at bay will mean players and staff will go. Finch Farm's benefits will disappear if the club cant afford to run itslef never mind an academy.
Dwindling resources to keep the banks at bay will mean players and staff will go. Finch Farm's benefits will disappear if the club cant afford to run itslef never mind an academy.
Brendan McLaughlin
31 Posted 19/08/2011 at 23:50:10
31 Posted 19/08/2011 at 23:50:10
Denis @23
My one and only question...do you think BK wants to remain in charge?
My one and only question...do you think BK wants to remain in charge?
Gavin Ramejkis
32 Posted 20/08/2011 at 00:05:03
32 Posted 20/08/2011 at 00:05:03
Brendan his repsonse to refusing point blank to allow an interim board to control the sale claiming he is the best Everton fan to do it despite 12 years of failure to do so to me screams yes he does, he sounds like he never wants to give up and that he'd like to play with someone elses money
Brendan McLaughlin
33 Posted 20/08/2011 at 00:42:37
33 Posted 20/08/2011 at 00:42:37
Gavin if someone wants to buy the club they will ...irrespective of whether its BK or an interim board fronting the sale. Much as it pains me no one's interested and even Alan Sugar would have difficulty off-loading us.
Robert Daniels
34 Posted 20/08/2011 at 06:49:13
34 Posted 20/08/2011 at 06:49:13
Don't think many people picked up on this or if they just discounted it.
In the taped or not taped interview with Bill Coconuts, he says,
"Well i'm speaking on behalf of Robert, Jon, Arthur, and PHILLIP, we've got the club, we own 75 per cent of the club."
Note the inclusion of our fiend (yes i did spell that right) Phillip?
Was it just a slip? or is the truth still out there, as Moulder and Scully would say?
Michael Hegarty
35 Posted 20/08/2011 at 09:20:42
35 Posted 20/08/2011 at 09:20:42
Gavin @ 29. That's like saying if you build a rocket to get to the moon and someone takes the moon away what's the point in the rocket? None obviously!
You have a knack of starting with a bit of sense then focussing on one aspect of the argument to make it seem ridiculous.
What I am saying is that Finch Farm is beginning to produce top talent, is a facility that is up there with the best in the country and this, if continued to be invested in, can continue to be a major positive for the club going forward.
You have a knack of starting with a bit of sense then focussing on one aspect of the argument to make it seem ridiculous.
What I am saying is that Finch Farm is beginning to produce top talent, is a facility that is up there with the best in the country and this, if continued to be invested in, can continue to be a major positive for the club going forward.
Andrew Mackenzie
36 Posted 20/08/2011 at 10:51:00
36 Posted 20/08/2011 at 10:51:00
Robert #33. I assume he means Carter?
Michael #34. I dont think anyone is doubting Finch farm is a top facility, but at some cost. And as previously argued, the club has never really struggled to bring an average numbers of players through Bellfield or wherever the outsourced them to. I think its too early to start thinking we are some sort of Ajax in this regard. but we can hope!
Michael #34. I dont think anyone is doubting Finch farm is a top facility, but at some cost. And as previously argued, the club has never really struggled to bring an average numbers of players through Bellfield or wherever the outsourced them to. I think its too early to start thinking we are some sort of Ajax in this regard. but we can hope!
Gavin Ramejkis
37 Posted 20/08/2011 at 10:58:28
37 Posted 20/08/2011 at 10:58:28
Michael you focused on Finch Farm as the saviour but blank out and ignore it is just one component of Everton FC as a business, remove the core business and what does Finch Farm become? It's not even an asset that could be utilised for security. So no Michael I've not focused on a single item I'm pointing out that by you doing so you ignore the bigger picture and thats the business which is made up of many component parts, remove a critical component and you could have another perfect part which will never work again, using your analogy you have a Ferrari in the garage but no money in your pocket for fuel, road tax or insurance and how do you get to drive it?
Brendan it will always depend on what the asking price of the club is, if its overpriced and due dilligence shows its not worth a balloon as its debts outweigh its assets then no one in their right mind would even make a bid, if I wanted to buy a company I'd check out its accounts, directors reports and enquire via a broker at a prospectus and ball park asking price, if there is a massive gap between what I already know about the company's liabilities if they differ from what the company told me when I asked for the prospectus and ball park figure I'd walk, no need to go public as it has no benefit whatsoever just walk.
Brendan it will always depend on what the asking price of the club is, if its overpriced and due dilligence shows its not worth a balloon as its debts outweigh its assets then no one in their right mind would even make a bid, if I wanted to buy a company I'd check out its accounts, directors reports and enquire via a broker at a prospectus and ball park asking price, if there is a massive gap between what I already know about the company's liabilities if they differ from what the company told me when I asked for the prospectus and ball park figure I'd walk, no need to go public as it has no benefit whatsoever just walk.
Roman Sidey
38 Posted 20/08/2011 at 12:34:41
38 Posted 20/08/2011 at 12:34:41
What no one has pointed out about Finch Farm is the fact that in any football club of any code, if the first squad's quality diminishes, the shit runs downhill.
The worse/thinner Everton become as a Premier League outfit, the more these young players are going to be thrown in too early. This will both hamper their development and also drop their standard to which they aim to get selected.
Michael, you mentioned you've experience playing international sport. Surely then, you must know the importance of a winning/positive mentality. I would put it probably in the top three of most vital aspects. What sort of mental state would our Finch Farm products be in with the current situation?
The worse/thinner Everton become as a Premier League outfit, the more these young players are going to be thrown in too early. This will both hamper their development and also drop their standard to which they aim to get selected.
Michael, you mentioned you've experience playing international sport. Surely then, you must know the importance of a winning/positive mentality. I would put it probably in the top three of most vital aspects. What sort of mental state would our Finch Farm products be in with the current situation?
Michael Hegarty
39 Posted 20/08/2011 at 21:05:50
39 Posted 20/08/2011 at 21:05:50
Gavin read back. I never said FF was THE saviour I said it was a positive. I'm not saying invest everything in FF and let the rest of the club go under, I'm saying that it is something that we should continue to invest in as a priority because it is one of the few ways we can compete on a level playing field with richer teams. Once again you have tried twist what has been said to back your argument.
A fairer analogy would be to say we've got the Batmobile and we're trying to fuel it with water and the odd bit of unleaded. If we focus on producing our own we could end up with rocket fuel in a few years.
Roman@ 37 you're absolutely right and I wish I knew the magic formula for it. I look at Man U's team sometimes, especially last season, and think they're nothing special but they always find a way of winning and it's not like they haven't got issues in the board room. In my opinion the winning mentality comes from the manager and senior players; what happens in the board room has no impact.
A fairer analogy would be to say we've got the Batmobile and we're trying to fuel it with water and the odd bit of unleaded. If we focus on producing our own we could end up with rocket fuel in a few years.
Roman@ 37 you're absolutely right and I wish I knew the magic formula for it. I look at Man U's team sometimes, especially last season, and think they're nothing special but they always find a way of winning and it's not like they haven't got issues in the board room. In my opinion the winning mentality comes from the manager and senior players; what happens in the board room has no impact.
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