Season 2011-12 Fan Articles
Mikel Arteta
By Gavin McGarvey :: 01/09/2011
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I am disappointed and concerned by the sale of Arteta to Arsenal. I read a number of posters last night saying (and they may well be proved right) that it was a brilliant piece of business. Maybe it was, but selling Arteta is a risk. Make no mistake about it.
He is one of our few class players. Who else in our midfield can unlock teams? What happens when we fail to unlock teams? Then we either draw or lose. Draw or lose enough games and we?ll be in relegation territory.
Regardless of what happens next, Arteta has given us some great memories. Anyone who is lucky enough to get along to a match will have seen the way he can control and influence games. At his best he was pretty unstoppable, giving teams a torrid time, particularly down the right before he moved into centre midfield.
He could really run at a defence, then, in a second, split it apart with a great pass. He could shield the ball in midfield, and if the defender chose to leap in, there were few greater at winning a free kick. :) If there was a weakness in his game, it was that he failed to take enough shots, though a few times he scored a belter.
He?s gone now, so those are the qualities that (I hope) he will display for Arsenal (unless he?s playing against us). I really do wish him well, because I feel he did a fantastic job for us. Despite that, we are left to wonder what we will do without him.
Where will the goals come from? The margins in the Premier League are very fine indeed. Who will be good enough to create the goals for us?
For me, the responsibility for our season rests on the shoulders of three players: Baines, Osman and Barkley. I know Moyes, Kenwright etc are ultimately responsible but, unless they are about to put on a pair of boots and set up chances for the forwards, then that is a moot point. Maybe Drenthe and Stracqualursi (whoever they are, though I might have read about Drenthe before) will step up to the plate.
Out of our current squad, though, Baines, Osman and Barkley are the only ones who really possess creativity. I do worry about the pressure on Barkley at the minute; he really has big boots to fill, and he is only 17. Baines, I imagine, will probably be as steady as he has been for the last couple of years.
I remember people asking why we?d bought him when Lescott was holding down that left back slot, yet here we are and he is by far our best and most consistent player. As for Osman, well this is his last chance, so we?ll see what he makes of it.
So we will see how things turn out. I wonder where we will find another player to pull the strings in the centre of midfield. I guess we?ll see how things stand at the end of the season. Hopefully my fears will prove unfounded. Also I think we should show our appreciation for one of the best players to have graced the team in the last 20 years.
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Dominic Bobadilla
2 Posted 01/09/2011 at 22:38:56
2 Posted 01/09/2011 at 22:38:56
Bily could do the job just as well, if not better. If only Moyes saw that Bily, like Arteta, is no winger but a central midfielder.
Alan Clarke
3 Posted 01/09/2011 at 22:48:35
3 Posted 01/09/2011 at 22:48:35
I think people are trying to justify the sale by saying he wasn't any good anymore but he would have been everyone's first name on the team sheet.
Arteta is not yet past it and I had every faith he was going to come good again this year.
Regardless of his form, he's the one player I didn't want to ever see wearing another team's shirt or celebrating a goal for another team. Similarly to big Dunc, he was ours, the Peoples' Player.
Arteta is not yet past it and I had every faith he was going to come good again this year.
Regardless of his form, he's the one player I didn't want to ever see wearing another team's shirt or celebrating a goal for another team. Similarly to big Dunc, he was ours, the Peoples' Player.
Anthony Jones
4 Posted 01/09/2011 at 22:50:18
4 Posted 01/09/2011 at 22:50:18
Interesting that Moyes stated that he couldn't offer Mikel CL football when he had previously turned down a more lucrative move by Arsenal for the less influential Jagielka.
The mind boggles
The mind boggles
Brian Donnelly
5 Posted 01/09/2011 at 22:50:12
5 Posted 01/09/2011 at 22:50:12
According to the reports Arteta only said he wanted to leave at about 7pm on the transfer day. I might be missing something but how would he have had time for a medical?
I mean you don?t pay £10m for a player who only recovered from a major injury just over a year ago without extensive medical tests. It just seems strange to me.
I mean you don?t pay £10m for a player who only recovered from a major injury just over a year ago without extensive medical tests. It just seems strange to me.
Andrew Presly
6 Posted 01/09/2011 at 22:49:47
6 Posted 01/09/2011 at 22:49:47
Drenthe is probably just about worth the risk and at least provides width and pace.
I'm more perturbed about upfront. Why have Tigres let Denis go out on loan? I can think of one reason immediately....
As for the OP / Arteta, after Rooney going I don't get upset about individual players leaving us but still a sad day. Thanks for the memories, Fiorentina 2nd leg was my highlight, but overall good deal for everyone and now time for Rodwell, Ossie, hell even Bily to step up.
Just soul destroying selling first teamers every window with the bank taking all the money. When and where will this end?!
I'm more perturbed about upfront. Why have Tigres let Denis go out on loan? I can think of one reason immediately....
As for the OP / Arteta, after Rooney going I don't get upset about individual players leaving us but still a sad day. Thanks for the memories, Fiorentina 2nd leg was my highlight, but overall good deal for everyone and now time for Rodwell, Ossie, hell even Bily to step up.
Just soul destroying selling first teamers every window with the bank taking all the money. When and where will this end?!
Kjetil Moen
7 Posted 01/09/2011 at 23:35:03
7 Posted 01/09/2011 at 23:35:03
Gavin:
You say: "Who else in our midfield can unlock teams? What happens when we fail to unlock teams? Then we either draw or lose."
This happened WITH Arteta. We failed to unlock teams on a regular occasion, WITH Arteta. He was no guarantee to unlock anything, especially after his latest crucial injuree. What this gives us is a fresh look, a need of others than him to step up to the plate, maybe a place for Gueye some day.
Also, we made the bank happy with 10 mill AND we got at least a couple of fresh faces that would make us fans enthusiastic, or at least interested, in the next few games.
I would be surprised if Arteta re-emerged, back to his best form, for Arsenal in the next four years (thats his contract). Actually, I would be surprised to see him in the regular starting lineup - after the few initial games where he is given the chance to be the new Cesc.
You say: "Who else in our midfield can unlock teams? What happens when we fail to unlock teams? Then we either draw or lose."
This happened WITH Arteta. We failed to unlock teams on a regular occasion, WITH Arteta. He was no guarantee to unlock anything, especially after his latest crucial injuree. What this gives us is a fresh look, a need of others than him to step up to the plate, maybe a place for Gueye some day.
Also, we made the bank happy with 10 mill AND we got at least a couple of fresh faces that would make us fans enthusiastic, or at least interested, in the next few games.
I would be surprised if Arteta re-emerged, back to his best form, for Arsenal in the next four years (thats his contract). Actually, I would be surprised to see him in the regular starting lineup - after the few initial games where he is given the chance to be the new Cesc.
Andy Codling
8 Posted 01/09/2011 at 23:36:32
8 Posted 01/09/2011 at 23:36:32
@ Presley ,Arteta against Fiorentina was his finest moment, I hope we play the arse out of Barkley without all this protecting him bollocks because in a couple of years he will be gone to pay off more debt. Selling your best players for loan signings every year = Championship
Andy Crooks
9 Posted 01/09/2011 at 23:47:50
9 Posted 01/09/2011 at 23:47:50
Andy,spot on.
Andy Crooks
10 Posted 01/09/2011 at 23:49:12
10 Posted 01/09/2011 at 23:49:12
Meant to add, protect him from what? Ending up like Duffy and Baxter. We sold Arteta and Barkley is his replacement. This protection nonsense might well apply to racehorses. not keen ,fit well paid footballers.
Pat Finegan
11 Posted 02/09/2011 at 00:12:27
11 Posted 02/09/2011 at 00:12:27
Drenthe is out of contract at Real in the summer, they don't want him and neither does any club better than Everton. Might as well be a permanent.
All in all, I'd say it was good business. We made 10m, saved 75k/week, and brought in a player we needed. Let's face it, Arteta isn't playing as well as Osman and Fellaini so we don't need him in CM. He's not a winger, Drenthe is. I'd say we're better off now.
All in all, I'd say it was good business. We made 10m, saved 75k/week, and brought in a player we needed. Let's face it, Arteta isn't playing as well as Osman and Fellaini so we don't need him in CM. He's not a winger, Drenthe is. I'd say we're better off now.
Jamie Sweet
12 Posted 02/09/2011 at 00:05:48
12 Posted 02/09/2011 at 00:05:48
I agree that Arteta will be missed... but I have already been missing the OLD Arteta of three or four years ago.
Maybe he will rediscover that extra something that made him such a special player and fans' favourite, but I haven't seen much in the last 18 months to suggest that this will happen.
His sale was more upsetting as a signal of how far this great club has fallen under the stewardship of BK.
It is also more concerning as to how it will affect others in the squad, who might start believing the grass really is greener anywhere other than at Goodison. Especially for someone like Fellaini who should be extending his contract with us right now.
The loss of Arteta himself, in isolation, for the price we got, looks like a good bit of business in my opinion. It is what it represents, and the circumstances which have lead to a sale like this becoming absolutely necessary, that made it such a sad day.
Maybe he will rediscover that extra something that made him such a special player and fans' favourite, but I haven't seen much in the last 18 months to suggest that this will happen.
His sale was more upsetting as a signal of how far this great club has fallen under the stewardship of BK.
It is also more concerning as to how it will affect others in the squad, who might start believing the grass really is greener anywhere other than at Goodison. Especially for someone like Fellaini who should be extending his contract with us right now.
The loss of Arteta himself, in isolation, for the price we got, looks like a good bit of business in my opinion. It is what it represents, and the circumstances which have lead to a sale like this becoming absolutely necessary, that made it such a sad day.
Gaute Lie
13 Posted 02/09/2011 at 00:18:24
13 Posted 02/09/2011 at 00:18:24
How the heck did the Argentinian Denis S. obtain a working permit? Is'nt he supposed to have played a number of games for the natioanl team to obtain such a permit in Britain? IIs he an national team player? If so, he should be good. If not, what's the deal with the working permit.
As for the dutch one, I believe his history of foolishness is a bit too long to have any faith in him. Also, he's a lightweighter and probably does'nt contribute much in defense.
I will miss Arteta, although I do believe his best days are behind him. So I think 10m is good business.
Perhaps we can have some dough to use in January?
I wish.
As for the dutch one, I believe his history of foolishness is a bit too long to have any faith in him. Also, he's a lightweighter and probably does'nt contribute much in defense.
I will miss Arteta, although I do believe his best days are behind him. So I think 10m is good business.
Perhaps we can have some dough to use in January?
I wish.
Lyndon Lloyd
14 Posted 02/09/2011 at 00:45:14
14 Posted 02/09/2011 at 00:45:14
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2032736/Everton-boss-David-Moyes-spend-transfer-window.html?
He has dual Italian citizenship, so no permit required.
He has dual Italian citizenship, so no permit required.
Dominic Bobadilla
15 Posted 02/09/2011 at 00:47:40
15 Posted 02/09/2011 at 00:47:40
Ball left for Arsenal, McMahon left for Villa, Lineker left for Barcelona, and Trevor Steven left for Rangers. This is not the first time that we sell a key player. Selling Arteta was a wise decision. We should have sold Cahill too.
Rory Slingo
16 Posted 02/09/2011 at 02:35:26
16 Posted 02/09/2011 at 02:35:26
"I am disappointed and concerned by the sale of Arteta to Arsenal. I read a number of posters last night saying (and they may well be proved right) that it was a brilliant piece of business. Maybe it was, but selling Arteta is a risk."
I'll stop you there, Gavin. Getting out of bed was a risk this morning but we all did it.
There is also the risk of stagnating and even going backwards in persisting with the same old tired routine as we've done for the last 2 years. In an ideal world, Arteta would've been dropped to the bench and we could call on another equally skillful playmaker to step in until Arteta regained his previous form. But we can't afford that so instead of benching him, we sell him off while he still has some market value and bring in a fresh face. Different method, same result. So if it doesn't work out, rinse and repeat. This is sadly what EFC has been reduced to in the Kenwright-era. I guess this is how we now have to play the game within the rules that this board has now made for itself.
I'll stop you there, Gavin. Getting out of bed was a risk this morning but we all did it.
There is also the risk of stagnating and even going backwards in persisting with the same old tired routine as we've done for the last 2 years. In an ideal world, Arteta would've been dropped to the bench and we could call on another equally skillful playmaker to step in until Arteta regained his previous form. But we can't afford that so instead of benching him, we sell him off while he still has some market value and bring in a fresh face. Different method, same result. So if it doesn't work out, rinse and repeat. This is sadly what EFC has been reduced to in the Kenwright-era. I guess this is how we now have to play the game within the rules that this board has now made for itself.
Brendan O'Doherty
17 Posted 02/09/2011 at 03:05:32
17 Posted 02/09/2011 at 03:05:32
Dominic # 15
"Ball left for Arsenal, McMahon left for Villa, Lineker left for Barcelona, and Trevor Steven left for Rangers. This is not the first time that we sell a key player. Selling Arteta was a wise decision. We should have sold Cahill too."
Are you out of your mind?
So selling Ball to Arsenal was the right decision? No it fucking wasn't, and the demise of this football club can be traced right back to that fateful day.
Steven to Rangers and Lineker to Barca were also perfect examples of the myopia which has affected Everton boards ever since.
And you want to get rid of the one player, who even if he is having a stinker, is usually the man to score the all-important goal to win us a vital game ?
Short-sighted nonsense, and the reason we are where we are today; right in it up to our necks.
"Ball left for Arsenal, McMahon left for Villa, Lineker left for Barcelona, and Trevor Steven left for Rangers. This is not the first time that we sell a key player. Selling Arteta was a wise decision. We should have sold Cahill too."
Are you out of your mind?
So selling Ball to Arsenal was the right decision? No it fucking wasn't, and the demise of this football club can be traced right back to that fateful day.
Steven to Rangers and Lineker to Barca were also perfect examples of the myopia which has affected Everton boards ever since.
And you want to get rid of the one player, who even if he is having a stinker, is usually the man to score the all-important goal to win us a vital game ?
Short-sighted nonsense, and the reason we are where we are today; right in it up to our necks.
Michael Coville
18 Posted 02/09/2011 at 03:29:33
18 Posted 02/09/2011 at 03:29:33
Moyes said "we are not a selling club" I believe. Well we bloody well are under Kenwright. I am not sure if it is a good bit of business or not but one thing I am certain of is that our much quoted "team spirit" will suffer.
Eric Myles
19 Posted 02/09/2011 at 04:24:58
19 Posted 02/09/2011 at 04:24:58
^Timmy certainly won't be in the same frame of mind at work with his bessie mate gone.
David Ellis
20 Posted 02/09/2011 at 04:35:02
20 Posted 02/09/2011 at 04:35:02
Brendan 17 - I was gutted by the departures of the 4 players you mention - Ball, MacMahon, Steven and Lineker.
But the club did not start its structural decline with the sale of Ball - we bounced back in the mid 80s. Bizarrely we took off after selling MacMahon.
The sale of Lineker was the beginning of the end - but probably had more to do with Heysel which happened the year before - in fact Heysel caused Lineker's departure. OK we won the league the following year but the structural decline had begun.
Moving to the present day the structural decline has more or less run its course, I do not think things will get much worse. The sale of Areteta was probably good business (he being not the player he was and also at 29 his re-sale value would start to disappear). His departure simply reflects the status quo rather than an indication that worse is to follow.
Looking through the transfers of all the other Premier League clubs very few have spent ANY money at all - unless re-cycling proceeds coming from sales to the big boys - even Arsenal fall into that category.
The only net spender seem to be Liverpool (surely a one-off cash injection from the new owners that is unlikely to be repeated), CIty and United (who announced profits of over GBP 100m yesterday - God help us all), and to a lesser extent Chelsea and Spurs...and Stoke.
But everyone else is in the same boat as us. Lots of loan deals, lots of free transfers. The transfer market is hopefully in its death throes and will disappear - it just makes no sense to spend money on buying a player - just spend it on wages like every other business in the world.
But the club did not start its structural decline with the sale of Ball - we bounced back in the mid 80s. Bizarrely we took off after selling MacMahon.
The sale of Lineker was the beginning of the end - but probably had more to do with Heysel which happened the year before - in fact Heysel caused Lineker's departure. OK we won the league the following year but the structural decline had begun.
Moving to the present day the structural decline has more or less run its course, I do not think things will get much worse. The sale of Areteta was probably good business (he being not the player he was and also at 29 his re-sale value would start to disappear). His departure simply reflects the status quo rather than an indication that worse is to follow.
Looking through the transfers of all the other Premier League clubs very few have spent ANY money at all - unless re-cycling proceeds coming from sales to the big boys - even Arsenal fall into that category.
The only net spender seem to be Liverpool (surely a one-off cash injection from the new owners that is unlikely to be repeated), CIty and United (who announced profits of over GBP 100m yesterday - God help us all), and to a lesser extent Chelsea and Spurs...and Stoke.
But everyone else is in the same boat as us. Lots of loan deals, lots of free transfers. The transfer market is hopefully in its death throes and will disappear - it just makes no sense to spend money on buying a player - just spend it on wages like every other business in the world.
Jalil Noor
21 Posted 02/09/2011 at 05:10:16
21 Posted 02/09/2011 at 05:10:16
I agree, we should have sold Cahill, Pips and Jags as well. We are now a team in transition. Time to get rid of the old ones with high wages and with a sell on value and time to play the young 'uns.
Face it. We are in bad debt, we are skint and we are fucked financially.
Rahman Talib
22 Posted 02/09/2011 at 05:43:35
22 Posted 02/09/2011 at 05:43:35
I am still gutted by Arteta's departure. He joined Arsenal with a £10k pay cut. we could've negotiated that with him and make him stay. And as far as the money goes, we could get some bucks from the sale of Yobo, Yakubu and Beckford.
NEVER SHOULD'VE LET ARTETA GO.
I'm a guy but I shed tears hearing arteta leaving. Arteta has been an important part of my life for the last 6 years or so.
NEVER SHOULD'VE LET ARTETA GO.
I'm a guy but I shed tears hearing arteta leaving. Arteta has been an important part of my life for the last 6 years or so.
Chris Webb
23 Posted 02/09/2011 at 06:19:42
23 Posted 02/09/2011 at 06:19:42
Something a bit lighthearted in the face of adversity. Did anyone read Jamie Twatnapp's article on Skyspots.com titled 'Movers and Shakers'? He was commenting about Arteta's departure and the faith Moyes must have in 'Ryan Barclay'!!!
I had no idea who this player was but submitted a comment that I must have overlooked his signing due to Everton's transfer day dealings. However I was still looking forward to seeing him play alongside our other young center midfield 'ROSS BARKLEY' and finished by calling TwatNapp a moron.
Needless to say my comment was not posted BUT the players name has since been changed to ROSS BARCLAY. Looks like we have made another signing I didn't notice last night.
All I can say is 'Watch this space.........'
Alan Rooney
24 Posted 02/09/2011 at 06:23:29
24 Posted 02/09/2011 at 06:23:29
The Arteta deal ? as it happened
Finch Farm:
?Well Mikel, as you know we are in a bit of financial mess.?
?Si, Senor Moyes, me se?
?De ya no fancy the sunny climes of London??
?No, Senor Moyes, me agusta Everton?
?No look son, Arsene is a nice guy ? he smiles more than me and you know that the Gunners love the Spanish ? and you would be helping us out a lot?
Meanwhile down in London??
?Bill, is that you??
?Yes love?
?How about 5 mill for Arteta??
?Ooooh that?s so kind of you Peter, but I?ve promised David that we won?t sell.?
?Well we could throw in a great Dane as well.?
?Well I suppose he would make a lovely fashion accessory, but I could never get it past David?
?Okay, £10 mill plus Bendtner?
?Mmmm... well I am tempted but could stretch to a little more Peter??
?No. Final offer Bill?
?Well David would be soooooo annoyed with me if I said yes?
?Well it?s your choice Bill. This deal is dead in the water ? see ya.?
Whilst Bill is sitting at his desk, the phone rings again:
?That you, Kenwright??
?Oh yes Sir, Mr Barclay. What can I do for you??
?Just heard that you could have got some cash for Arteta that would reduce your borrowing. Is that correct??
?Noooo, not really I was just having a chat with a London friend of mine. He and I go back a long?.?
?Just cut the crap Kenwright. If that money is not in the bank?s coffers by Friday, you and your club are going down.?
Line goes dead?..
Bill quickly dials Moyes:
?Davey, love, have you had a word with Mikel about coming down here??
?Aye Bill, he doesna wanna go?
?Well Mr Barclay says we have to have the cash in the bank and dear Peter has hung up on me. Can you talk him around to asking for a move so we can resurrect their interest??
Back at Finch Farm:
?Look Mikel, you?ve just got to go, I don?t want to lose you, but we need the money. That nice Mr Wenger will offer you a good deal and you will make lots of new friends. And besides we might not be able to pay you next month.?
?No dinero? Me quiere dejar.?
Moyes picks up the phone:
?Bill, aye he?s ready to go ? the threat of not being paid did the trick.?
?Ooooh Davey you are such a darling ? I?ll speak to Peter.?
Kenwright dials Peter Hill-Woods:
?Oh hi Peter love, Bill here. Well you know that £10 million plus Bendtner you offered earlier? Well I?ve been thinking that maybe we could accept it.?
?Too late Bill. Bendtner?s gone to Sunderland ? just £10 million on the table now. Take it or leave it.?
?Oh that?s so kind of you. Can we have the money straight away please??
Kenwright calls Moyes
?Davey dear, I?ve just done the deal. Initially they only offered £5 million, but through my hard nosed negotiation techniques I?ve just pushed them up to £10 million. Phew what a night. I must lie down.?
Michael Ferguson
25 Posted 02/09/2011 at 06:31:41
25 Posted 02/09/2011 at 06:31:41
It almost seems a shame to lose one our more favoured chants with the loss of Arteta, so I wondered if it could be adopted to fit some of our remaining players.
I'll go first...
"Follow Follow Follow...
Everton is the team to follow,
and there's no one more hairy
than Marou Fellaini,
He's the best little Belgian we know."
Oh well it cheered me up. Anyone else got any better?
Ov Collyer
26 Posted 02/09/2011 at 07:29:30
26 Posted 02/09/2011 at 07:29:30
@Anthony No.4
Isn't the difference that Arteta, upon learning of the bid, asked to leave because he wanted to play CL football, whereas Jags didn't ask to leave?
I think Moyes just thought there was no point having someone at the club who doesn't want to play for us, so lets use the opportunity to clear a bit of the debt and reduce the wage bill.
I'll miss Arteta, but he gave us some good memories and I wish him luck. Whether he'll be as good as the Arteta of a few years ago is questionable but I suspect he'll fit well into Arsenal's style of play.
I think the striker situation is more of a concern as we're gambling on Saha staying fit, the Argentine to work out, Vellios to come through, Anichebe to improve, Cahill to rediscover his goals...none of which are guaranteed.
Isn't the difference that Arteta, upon learning of the bid, asked to leave because he wanted to play CL football, whereas Jags didn't ask to leave?
I think Moyes just thought there was no point having someone at the club who doesn't want to play for us, so lets use the opportunity to clear a bit of the debt and reduce the wage bill.
I'll miss Arteta, but he gave us some good memories and I wish him luck. Whether he'll be as good as the Arteta of a few years ago is questionable but I suspect he'll fit well into Arsenal's style of play.
I think the striker situation is more of a concern as we're gambling on Saha staying fit, the Argentine to work out, Vellios to come through, Anichebe to improve, Cahill to rediscover his goals...none of which are guaranteed.
Mike Bates
27 Posted 02/09/2011 at 07:57:36
27 Posted 02/09/2011 at 07:57:36
Follow Follow Follow...
Everton is the team to follow,
and Ross Barkley is better
than Mikel Arteta,
He's the best little Scouser we know.
Everton is the team to follow,
and Ross Barkley is better
than Mikel Arteta,
He's the best little Scouser we know.
Stephen Kenny
28 Posted 02/09/2011 at 07:47:33
28 Posted 02/09/2011 at 07:47:33
Mikel Arteta is by far the best player I've ever seen in an Everton shirt.
As a footballer he had the lot. But the word 'had' is correct. For the past season he hasn't done anything of note.
He's also stopped doing the basics like tracking runs, making himself available for a pass and in the majority he has looked disinterested. I think some of his teamates will be happy to see the back of him, playing wise. I think on balance so will I, I can'r forgive a full seasons worth of no effort.
I'll also be happy to see the ridiculous corners and free kicks scenario come to an end, although every man, woman and child would have taken him off them years ago. I think Moyes was scared of upsetting Mikel TBH. With this new skyscraper up front and Baines on set pieces we should start looking a bit more dangerous.
I think the change of scene will do him good and playing with better footballers may well help him get back to where he was before the injury but I personally can't see it happening.
By the end of this season I don't think he will get a game for Arsenal.
Fabregas was head and shoulders the best midfielder in the league and Gooners are going to be looking to him to fill those boots, there's no way thats happening.
Twenty goals and a similar number of assists was guarenteed by Cesc and Mikel is not in that league, if the fans get on his back then that could see him return to Spain with his tail once again between his legs.
I really like the guy and we've had his best years and got good money for him. Regardless of whether he asked for the move or not I'll always appreciate what he done for our club.
Now to get changing a few passwords!!
As a footballer he had the lot. But the word 'had' is correct. For the past season he hasn't done anything of note.
He's also stopped doing the basics like tracking runs, making himself available for a pass and in the majority he has looked disinterested. I think some of his teamates will be happy to see the back of him, playing wise. I think on balance so will I, I can'r forgive a full seasons worth of no effort.
I'll also be happy to see the ridiculous corners and free kicks scenario come to an end, although every man, woman and child would have taken him off them years ago. I think Moyes was scared of upsetting Mikel TBH. With this new skyscraper up front and Baines on set pieces we should start looking a bit more dangerous.
I think the change of scene will do him good and playing with better footballers may well help him get back to where he was before the injury but I personally can't see it happening.
By the end of this season I don't think he will get a game for Arsenal.
Fabregas was head and shoulders the best midfielder in the league and Gooners are going to be looking to him to fill those boots, there's no way thats happening.
Twenty goals and a similar number of assists was guarenteed by Cesc and Mikel is not in that league, if the fans get on his back then that could see him return to Spain with his tail once again between his legs.
I really like the guy and we've had his best years and got good money for him. Regardless of whether he asked for the move or not I'll always appreciate what he done for our club.
Now to get changing a few passwords!!
Stephen Kenny
29 Posted 02/09/2011 at 07:47:33
29 Posted 02/09/2011 at 07:47:33
Mikel Arteta is by far the best player I've ever seen in an Everton shirt.
As a footballer he had the lot. But the word 'had' is correct. For the past season he hasn't done anything of note.
He's also stopped doing the basics like tracking runs, making himself available for a pass and in the majority he has looked disinterested. I think some of his teamates will be happy to see the back of him, playing wise. I think on balance so will I, I can'r forgive a full seasons worth of no effort.
I'll also be happy to see the ridiculous corners and free kicks scenario come to an end, although every man, woman and child would have taken him off them years ago. I think Moyes was scared of upsetting Mikel TBH. With this new skyscraper up front and Baines on set pieces we should start looking a bit more dangerous.
I think the change of scene will do him good and playing with better footballers may well help him get back to where he was before the injury but I personally can't see it happening.
By the end of this season I don't think he will get a game for Arsenal.
Fabregas was head and shoulders the best midfielder in the league and Gooners are going to be looking to him to fill those boots, there's no way thats happening.
Twenty goals and a similar number of assists was guarenteed by Cesc and Mikel is not in that league, if the fans get on his back then that could see him return to Spain with his tail once again between his legs.
I really like the guy and we've had his best years and got good money for him. Regardless of whether he asked for the move or not I'll always appreciate what he done for our club.
Now to get changing a few passwords!!
As a footballer he had the lot. But the word 'had' is correct. For the past season he hasn't done anything of note.
He's also stopped doing the basics like tracking runs, making himself available for a pass and in the majority he has looked disinterested. I think some of his teamates will be happy to see the back of him, playing wise. I think on balance so will I, I can'r forgive a full seasons worth of no effort.
I'll also be happy to see the ridiculous corners and free kicks scenario come to an end, although every man, woman and child would have taken him off them years ago. I think Moyes was scared of upsetting Mikel TBH. With this new skyscraper up front and Baines on set pieces we should start looking a bit more dangerous.
I think the change of scene will do him good and playing with better footballers may well help him get back to where he was before the injury but I personally can't see it happening.
By the end of this season I don't think he will get a game for Arsenal.
Fabregas was head and shoulders the best midfielder in the league and Gooners are going to be looking to him to fill those boots, there's no way thats happening.
Twenty goals and a similar number of assists was guarenteed by Cesc and Mikel is not in that league, if the fans get on his back then that could see him return to Spain with his tail once again between his legs.
I really like the guy and we've had his best years and got good money for him. Regardless of whether he asked for the move or not I'll always appreciate what he done for our club.
Now to get changing a few passwords!!
Stephen Kenny
30 Posted 02/09/2011 at 08:08:37
30 Posted 02/09/2011 at 08:08:37
Mike Bates,
Love it mate!!!
Love it mate!!!
Dominic Bobadilla
32 Posted 02/09/2011 at 08:24:48
32 Posted 02/09/2011 at 08:24:48
* Brendan: Where have I written that selling Ball or Lineker was a wise decision? My point was rather that in selling key players the current board is doing something for which there exists a historical precedent.
Nick Armitage
33 Posted 02/09/2011 at 08:30:35
33 Posted 02/09/2011 at 08:30:35
Dominic Bobadilla - Correct about Cahill
The team was over-reliant on the pair of them and Cahill's developed his game to capitalize on Arteta's crosses. But we all know Arteta hasn't put in a decent cross consistently for more than a season. Factor in Cahill's chronic foot problems and one dimensional play and you have to question whether he was worth keeping as well.
The team was over-reliant on the pair of them and Cahill's developed his game to capitalize on Arteta's crosses. But we all know Arteta hasn't put in a decent cross consistently for more than a season. Factor in Cahill's chronic foot problems and one dimensional play and you have to question whether he was worth keeping as well.
Andy Mack
34 Posted 02/09/2011 at 08:47:50
34 Posted 02/09/2011 at 08:47:50
Best of luck to him, shame he couldn't have piped up in the close season about his Champs League desire though then we could have had a proper auction with more than one bidder. Looking at the big picture, I suppose he stuck around with the hope of getting to the Champs League with us, and we just couldn't reach it. And the way things have panned out, unlikely too.
This season has definitely become the end of an era though with Yak and Mikel gone, Cahill on the wane, the end of hoping we might just do it on hard work and sweat. Ah well, we're Evertonians, that's something that won't change.
Will always picture you in the Royal Blue though, Mikey.
This season has definitely become the end of an era though with Yak and Mikel gone, Cahill on the wane, the end of hoping we might just do it on hard work and sweat. Ah well, we're Evertonians, that's something that won't change.
Will always picture you in the Royal Blue though, Mikey.
Garry Martin
35 Posted 02/09/2011 at 09:02:59
35 Posted 02/09/2011 at 09:02:59
In simple terms, was a great servant, but, had clearly lost some spark to his game over the last 18 months or so.
His high wages were clearly not reflected in his game, therefore, a good deal to get shut now.
His high wages were clearly not reflected in his game, therefore, a good deal to get shut now.
Graham Holliday
36 Posted 02/09/2011 at 09:16:37
36 Posted 02/09/2011 at 09:16:37
It's the emotional and symbolic effect this has that is the worst aspect of this transfer... as others have said, this can be viewed as transitional, so in some respects I can understand it with a player like Barkley coming through.
Would still have tried to get more for Mikky tho.
And the obvious worry... the money will simply go to the banks, but won't touch the sides in terms of the debt, which will steadily build back up, and we'll be in the same situation.
Selling Jags, Cahill etc. would presumably have the same effect, because any attempt to pay off the debt early will incur steep penalty costs... that's how they do!
Re: Drenthe - a very exciting signing, but I'd argue not one that suits us. He's been signed to play LW? Isn't it clear that Baines (our most threatening player now) is MUCH better suited with a right footer drifting in field, creating space in front of him?
Would still have tried to get more for Mikky tho.
And the obvious worry... the money will simply go to the banks, but won't touch the sides in terms of the debt, which will steadily build back up, and we'll be in the same situation.
Selling Jags, Cahill etc. would presumably have the same effect, because any attempt to pay off the debt early will incur steep penalty costs... that's how they do!
Re: Drenthe - a very exciting signing, but I'd argue not one that suits us. He's been signed to play LW? Isn't it clear that Baines (our most threatening player now) is MUCH better suited with a right footer drifting in field, creating space in front of him?
Phil Bellis
37 Posted 02/09/2011 at 08:59:13
37 Posted 02/09/2011 at 08:59:13
It took Everton 13 years to recover from the sale of Alan Ball ("it's just business, son"); we then shone briefly but brilliantly for 3 seasons before the effects of Heysel and the subsequent myopia of successive boards set us on the road to mediocrity
Rooney buggaring off (whatever the reasons) was a stab in the back, losing Mikel hurts but no departure, for my era of Evertonians, can compare to the shock and pain of Bally going; the day the news broke is still, like Kennedy and 9/11, one of the "where were you when" moments of my life
Rooney buggaring off (whatever the reasons) was a stab in the back, losing Mikel hurts but no departure, for my era of Evertonians, can compare to the shock and pain of Bally going; the day the news broke is still, like Kennedy and 9/11, one of the "where were you when" moments of my life
Al Reddish
38 Posted 02/09/2011 at 09:32:18
38 Posted 02/09/2011 at 09:32:18
Follow follow follow
Everton is the team to follow
Cuz we hate the gobshites
And that includes Kenwright
He's the worst fuckin chairman I know
Everton is the team to follow
Cuz we hate the gobshites
And that includes Kenwright
He's the worst fuckin chairman I know
Phil Bellis
39 Posted 02/09/2011 at 09:42:23
39 Posted 02/09/2011 at 09:42:23
Nice one, Al
"Kenright's a gobshite"
"Where's the money gone..."
"Are you selling Jenny next?..."
"Kenright's a gobshite"
"Where's the money gone..."
"Are you selling Jenny next?..."
Ben Howard
40 Posted 02/09/2011 at 09:47:29
40 Posted 02/09/2011 at 09:47:29
Song for the terraces:
"We signed a massive Tevez, we signed a massive Tevez, La La La La Oi, La La La La Oi! His name is fucking Denis, His name is fucking Denis, La La La La Oi, La La La La Oi!"
"We signed a massive Tevez, we signed a massive Tevez, La La La La Oi, La La La La Oi! His name is fucking Denis, His name is fucking Denis, La La La La Oi, La La La La Oi!"
Ray Robinson
41 Posted 02/09/2011 at 09:29:54
41 Posted 02/09/2011 at 09:29:54
Alan #24 - brilliant and probably not far from the truth!
Mike #25 - the best "little Belgian we know" - classic! I'd hate to meet a "big" Belgian in that case. Besides, isn't he the "only" Belgian we know? Perhaps you should get "Poirot" in the rhyme somewhere?
As to Arteta, I'm really sorry to see him go. I don't necessarily think he was "past it" even though evidence supports the theory. Perhaps in a better team, he would have regained his form?. He certainly offered something that only Manuel Fernandes and Pienaar have demonstrated in recent years - namely creativity.
I do believe it's a big risk but only one worth taking if we'd had (a) replacement(s) lined up. Not that the Banks would have allowed that.
I see it's being mooted now that some of the £10m will be made available for David Moyes to spend in January. Fat chance! It'll disappear along with all the other transfer money.
Sorry to see the little man go. I do believe that he was a loyal chap despite the manner of his departure, and wish him all the best at Arsenal. We surely can't deny him his opportunity to play in the Champions League?
Mike #25 - the best "little Belgian we know" - classic! I'd hate to meet a "big" Belgian in that case. Besides, isn't he the "only" Belgian we know? Perhaps you should get "Poirot" in the rhyme somewhere?
As to Arteta, I'm really sorry to see him go. I don't necessarily think he was "past it" even though evidence supports the theory. Perhaps in a better team, he would have regained his form?. He certainly offered something that only Manuel Fernandes and Pienaar have demonstrated in recent years - namely creativity.
I do believe it's a big risk but only one worth taking if we'd had (a) replacement(s) lined up. Not that the Banks would have allowed that.
I see it's being mooted now that some of the £10m will be made available for David Moyes to spend in January. Fat chance! It'll disappear along with all the other transfer money.
Sorry to see the little man go. I do believe that he was a loyal chap despite the manner of his departure, and wish him all the best at Arsenal. We surely can't deny him his opportunity to play in the Champions League?
Kevin Jones
42 Posted 02/09/2011 at 09:16:24
42 Posted 02/09/2011 at 09:16:24
Swallow Swallow
How much of this shit can we swallow
He just spouts so much shite
He's "Boys Pen" Kenwright
He's the best fucking liar we know.
How much of this shit can we swallow
He just spouts so much shite
He's "Boys Pen" Kenwright
He's the best fucking liar we know.
Eric Myles
43 Posted 02/09/2011 at 10:17:39
43 Posted 02/09/2011 at 10:17:39
^nice one Kevin.
Cat got your tongue Eric?
Cat got your tongue Eric?
Eoin Kenny
44 Posted 02/09/2011 at 10:38:55
44 Posted 02/09/2011 at 10:38:55
I feel depressed that Mikky is gone. Thought he was our classiest player by far. Fitting that he got the winner in his last game for us.
I dont know what the fuck Yak did to be forced out. Last year he was finding fitness and form and he was dropped inexplicably. £1.5M could be a bargain for the chicken farmers. Beckford good business if you ask me.
I'd be hopeful that Mikky's exit will mean Barkley becomes a regular. However, I can see Heitinga being made a permanent midfielder now. Good centre back... shit midfielder.
We are going to struggle big time. I hope I'm wrong but I fear the worst. Just nipping down to the chemist now to renew my Prozac prescription.
I dont know what the fuck Yak did to be forced out. Last year he was finding fitness and form and he was dropped inexplicably. £1.5M could be a bargain for the chicken farmers. Beckford good business if you ask me.
I'd be hopeful that Mikky's exit will mean Barkley becomes a regular. However, I can see Heitinga being made a permanent midfielder now. Good centre back... shit midfielder.
We are going to struggle big time. I hope I'm wrong but I fear the worst. Just nipping down to the chemist now to renew my Prozac prescription.
Ciarán McGlone
45 Posted 02/09/2011 at 09:25:52
45 Posted 02/09/2011 at 09:25:52
Let's just see if he's past his best at the age of 29....My money is on last season being a recovery period from a horrednous injury.
Eugene Ruane
46 Posted 02/09/2011 at 10:51:43
46 Posted 02/09/2011 at 10:51:43
Agree Gavin.
He wasn't setting the world on fire, but he was as close as we had to a brain.
And Beckford as close as we had to pace.
Both gone because the bank said "we want some money NOW!"
He wasn't setting the world on fire, but he was as close as we had to a brain.
And Beckford as close as we had to pace.
Both gone because the bank said "we want some money NOW!"
Steve Pugh
47 Posted 02/09/2011 at 10:38:49
47 Posted 02/09/2011 at 10:38:49
Nice to see some of you giving the new boys a chance. Still, most of the comments about Pienaar were the same when he signed. Drenthe is the sort of player that Moyes seems to turn around so we should at least give him a chance.
Amit Vithlani
49 Posted 02/09/2011 at 10:56:32
49 Posted 02/09/2011 at 10:56:32
Straca's gonna get you
Straca's gonna get you
Lalala la laah, lalala laah
(Might be worth first seeing if he is as terrifying on the pitch as he looks)
Straca's gonna get you
Lalala la laah, lalala laah
(Might be worth first seeing if he is as terrifying on the pitch as he looks)
Sam Morrison
50 Posted 02/09/2011 at 11:22:47
50 Posted 02/09/2011 at 11:22:47
What's that coming over the hill,
is it Argentina's top scorer in an admittedly weak domestic league?
is it Argentina's top scorer in an admittedly weak domestic league?
Dominic Bobadilla
51 Posted 02/09/2011 at 11:27:06
51 Posted 02/09/2011 at 11:27:06
Sam, Denis the Scud looks a class act. The lad´s got aggression in him. Behold how he takes on his opponents. I always wanted a striker like that.
He will be on the scoresheet against Villa.
He will be on the scoresheet against Villa.
Sam Morrison
52 Posted 02/09/2011 at 11:35:18
52 Posted 02/09/2011 at 11:35:18
I reserve judgement, Dominic. Hope you're right though.
Adam Bennett
53 Posted 02/09/2011 at 11:43:25
53 Posted 02/09/2011 at 11:43:25
I see Ian Ross has already got his band of merry men to put out a load of spin and PR, trying to get the fans anger away from the club and onto Arteta, using this verbal transfer request story.
Yesterday?s piece in the Echo about the sale was a blatant attempt at this.
Dan Roans statement on the BBC site, again, an example of this.
Some of the ?tweets? Dominic King has done is another example.
I am sure over the weekend and next week there will be many many more.
Message to Ian Ross (as I know you read these websites) FUCKING PACK IT IN!
Arteta was a wonderful player for us. A true professional who always gave his best. He does not deserve this type of attempted journalism attack.
If this continues, it will just make my anger towards the board even bigger. So, as I say, for your own good, and more importantly for the clubs good ? PACK IT FUCKING IN.
Mikky, all the very very best at Arsenal mate, and I hope you really enjoy playing in the Champions League and do great. I will always treasure your time with us.
Yesterday?s piece in the Echo about the sale was a blatant attempt at this.
Dan Roans statement on the BBC site, again, an example of this.
Some of the ?tweets? Dominic King has done is another example.
I am sure over the weekend and next week there will be many many more.
Message to Ian Ross (as I know you read these websites) FUCKING PACK IT IN!
Arteta was a wonderful player for us. A true professional who always gave his best. He does not deserve this type of attempted journalism attack.
If this continues, it will just make my anger towards the board even bigger. So, as I say, for your own good, and more importantly for the clubs good ? PACK IT FUCKING IN.
Mikky, all the very very best at Arsenal mate, and I hope you really enjoy playing in the Champions League and do great. I will always treasure your time with us.
Adam Bennett
54 Posted 02/09/2011 at 11:43:40
54 Posted 02/09/2011 at 11:43:40
Follow follow follow;
Everton is the team to follow;
There is nobody faster;
Than Royston the rapper;
He?s the best crazy Dutchman we know!
Everton is the team to follow;
There is nobody faster;
Than Royston the rapper;
He?s the best crazy Dutchman we know!
Simon Harris
55 Posted 02/09/2011 at 11:46:56
55 Posted 02/09/2011 at 11:46:56
Adam #54 - well said !
Paul Mackie
56 Posted 02/09/2011 at 11:54:37
56 Posted 02/09/2011 at 11:54:37
I wish him nothing but luck at Arsenal. He's been a fantastic player for us but I think he'll be an even better player for Arsenal. Their Barcelona-lite style of play will suit him down to the ground.
Everyone wins in this scenario really. We get £10m for an out of form top earner. Arsenal get a new playmaker. Mikel gets to play in the Champs League.
Everyone wins in this scenario really. We get £10m for an out of form top earner. Arsenal get a new playmaker. Mikel gets to play in the Champs League.
Chad Schofield
57 Posted 02/09/2011 at 11:50:33
57 Posted 02/09/2011 at 11:50:33
Spot on Adam #54.
Really going to miss the little midfield matador. Thanks for all the memories Mickey, and goodluck at Arsenal.
Alan Rooney, that is brilliant... Absolutely hysterical!
Really going to miss the little midfield matador. Thanks for all the memories Mickey, and goodluck at Arsenal.
Alan Rooney, that is brilliant... Absolutely hysterical!
Laurie Hartley
58 Posted 02/09/2011 at 11:43:27
58 Posted 02/09/2011 at 11:43:27
Arteta going to Arsenal didn't surprise me at all, on the other hand, Alan Ball going to Arsenal gutted me - my worst moment as an Evertonian - worse than loosing to West Brom, the shite and Chelsea in the Cup Finals. It was just UNBELIEVABLE.
I think Mikel will do well at Arsenal and good luck to him - I hope he does as well for them as Bally did. Wenger is no mug - he wouldn't spend 10 million on a has been.
On a positive note perhaps the acquisition of the loan players may see the return of David Moyes to his best as a manager. I have been looking at our Argentinian on You tube - he can head a ball - a natural.
COYB.
I think Mikel will do well at Arsenal and good luck to him - I hope he does as well for them as Bally did. Wenger is no mug - he wouldn't spend 10 million on a has been.
On a positive note perhaps the acquisition of the loan players may see the return of David Moyes to his best as a manager. I have been looking at our Argentinian on You tube - he can head a ball - a natural.
COYB.
Guy Wilkinson
59 Posted 02/09/2011 at 12:28:54
59 Posted 02/09/2011 at 12:28:54
Arteta going is not a problem
Anthony Lewis
61 Posted 02/09/2011 at 12:44:00
61 Posted 02/09/2011 at 12:44:00
Was it just me, or did anyone else see Mikel's expression when he said "I am going to be playing for another club soon"?
He looked like he was about to burst in to tears and he voice betrayed a slight hint "lump in throat".
You could see he was genuinely gutted. Makes Alan's post #24 seem almost true. Great post by the way.
Anyhoo, good luck Mikel I hope it all goes well for you at ARSEnal.
We'll all miss you and you will always be remembered for being one of the best players to ever grace an Everton and truly likeable and genuine guy to boot.
He looked like he was about to burst in to tears and he voice betrayed a slight hint "lump in throat".
You could see he was genuinely gutted. Makes Alan's post #24 seem almost true. Great post by the way.
Anyhoo, good luck Mikel I hope it all goes well for you at ARSEnal.
We'll all miss you and you will always be remembered for being one of the best players to ever grace an Everton and truly likeable and genuine guy to boot.
Chad Schofield
62 Posted 02/09/2011 at 12:51:49
62 Posted 02/09/2011 at 12:51:49
Laurie #59, Franny Jeffers?
Ok, he wasn't a has been then.
Ok, he wasn't a has been then.
Dominic Bobadilla
63 Posted 02/09/2011 at 12:57:37
63 Posted 02/09/2011 at 12:57:37
Hello Anthony: Sorry mate, it was just you. I did not see any of that; no lump in throat. You are projecting your own emotions onto Arteta.
Dominic Bobadilla
64 Posted 02/09/2011 at 12:57:37
64 Posted 02/09/2011 at 12:57:37
Hello Anthony: Sorry mate, it was just you. I did not see any of that; no lump in throat. You are projecting your own emotions onto Arteta.
Stephen Kenny
65 Posted 02/09/2011 at 12:56:30
65 Posted 02/09/2011 at 12:56:30
At least we have a ready made replacement for sitting deep and passing sideways to fullback's.
Ciaran,
I can't see how over 18 months after he returned from injury you can try and use that as an excuse for his dire form.
I would say his state of mind more than his physical state are the reason for what we've had off him the past season and start of this.
It's clear to anybody he weren't interested.
Ciaran,
I can't see how over 18 months after he returned from injury you can try and use that as an excuse for his dire form.
I would say his state of mind more than his physical state are the reason for what we've had off him the past season and start of this.
It's clear to anybody he weren't interested.
David Hallwood
66 Posted 02/09/2011 at 13:39:59
66 Posted 02/09/2011 at 13:39:59
He puts on west end musicals
And jenny is his bint
The plays must make no money
Cos we are fuckin skint
Oh Billy Billy kenwright
I'm beginning to see the flaw
We can't even spend a millio
And where's the 24
And jenny is his bint
The plays must make no money
Cos we are fuckin skint
Oh Billy Billy kenwright
I'm beginning to see the flaw
We can't even spend a millio
And where's the 24
Phil Bellis
67 Posted 02/09/2011 at 13:47:48
67 Posted 02/09/2011 at 13:47:48
David,
If you're old enough to know it, try singing that to "My Old Man's A Dustman"
If you're old enough to know it, try singing that to "My Old Man's A Dustman"
Amit Vithlani
68 Posted 02/09/2011 at 13:51:20
68 Posted 02/09/2011 at 13:51:20
Ooooh David Moyes
Selling all the Boooys
Its worse than being Woooy
Why aren't you Annoooyed?
Selling all the Boooys
Its worse than being Woooy
Why aren't you Annoooyed?
David Hallwood
69 Posted 02/09/2011 at 13:59:08
69 Posted 02/09/2011 at 13:59:08
Hallwood & Bellis the new Lennon & McCartney, or should that be Bellis & Hallwood-lets not get into legal arguments before w've started
Ciarán McGlone
70 Posted 02/09/2011 at 14:26:18
70 Posted 02/09/2011 at 14:26:18
I can't see how over 18 months after he returned from injury you can try and use that as an excuse for his dire form.
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I can see how you can say he's been dire for 18 months. he was on and off last season. That, I believe was due the the injury. He'd actually started this season quite well.
Anyway, it's done. You think he's beat. I don't.
I would however agree with you, to an extent, about his state of mind...it must be hard for a quality technical player to play in a team of hoofers.
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I can see how you can say he's been dire for 18 months. he was on and off last season. That, I believe was due the the injury. He'd actually started this season quite well.
Anyway, it's done. You think he's beat. I don't.
I would however agree with you, to an extent, about his state of mind...it must be hard for a quality technical player to play in a team of hoofers.
Phil Bellis
71 Posted 02/09/2011 at 14:53:32
71 Posted 02/09/2011 at 14:53:32
According to Mikel via SSN he unselfishly fell on his sword to saveguard Everton's immediate future (and Kenwright's arse)
Phil Bellis
72 Posted 02/09/2011 at 15:00:58
72 Posted 02/09/2011 at 15:00:58
fkn spelk checkrer
....safeguard....and save....
Seems quite genuine from what I've read, though
....safeguard....and save....
Seems quite genuine from what I've read, though
Billy Bradshaw
73 Posted 02/09/2011 at 15:15:07
73 Posted 02/09/2011 at 15:15:07
follow follow follow
Everton arnt the club we all know,
its not fuckin funny,
that we have no money
and bullshiter kenwright must go.
Everton arnt the club we all know,
its not fuckin funny,
that we have no money
and bullshiter kenwright must go.
Colin Hughes
74 Posted 02/09/2011 at 15:12:04
74 Posted 02/09/2011 at 15:12:04
How come all of a sudden he's become a massive Premiership star, is it because he's joined a Sky top 4 team? he's done nothin for 2 years, may be at a push, had half a dozen decent games. Pienaar was a bigger loss, he was a player who was playing well. Ive heard more of Arteta's name these last 2 days since his move, than i have in the whole 6 years he was here with us.
Their are better players at Everton than him, so why arent they gettin hyped up? Is it because they dont have a fancy spanish name.
Their are better players at Everton than him, so why arent they gettin hyped up? Is it because they dont have a fancy spanish name.
Chris Perry
75 Posted 02/09/2011 at 16:11:22
75 Posted 02/09/2011 at 16:11:22
We actually only got £9 million as there is a 10% sell on clause!!!!
Ray Robinson
76 Posted 02/09/2011 at 16:27:49
76 Posted 02/09/2011 at 16:27:49
Colin, who are these better players? When he was on song (admittedly not often recently), I don't know of any better. Am hard pressed in 50 years of following Everton to think of a technically more gifted player. And it's got nothing to do with his having a fancy Spanish name.
Colin Malone
77 Posted 02/09/2011 at 16:45:29
77 Posted 02/09/2011 at 16:45:29
After watching Mikel's interview... HE WAS PUSHED.
To all who say he was not the same player, neither would Messi if he had three defenders playing in midfield with him.
GOOD LUCK OUR TATA.
Colin Hughes
78 Posted 02/09/2011 at 17:34:28
78 Posted 02/09/2011 at 17:34:28
Ray
Arteta is one of the best players in the premier when he is on song, But how many times has that been in 18 months???? Not many.
Osman is just as effective nowadays, and maybe Barkley will be given the extra he will now get.
Arteta's best before date was fast approaching, and to me, maybe it was the right time for him to leave.
Arteta is one of the best players in the premier when he is on song, But how many times has that been in 18 months???? Not many.
Osman is just as effective nowadays, and maybe Barkley will be given the extra he will now get.
Arteta's best before date was fast approaching, and to me, maybe it was the right time for him to leave.
Jim Knightley
79 Posted 02/09/2011 at 18:36:23
79 Posted 02/09/2011 at 18:36:23
Arteta will do ok for Arsenal.. He will be playing in a better team and will set up/score a few. But can't help but be in agreement with those who have criticised his form of the last 18 months. Puting it down to injury recovery seems a bit wide of the mark. He returned in January 2010 from his knee injury, recovery over the rest of 2010 is to be expected, but not the season beyond that as well. What evidence have we seen in over 2 years that Arteta will return to the player he was? And in what world is Arteta not worth 10million at 29? We need money and it is a good sell. It should also allow more room of first team appearances for Barkley and Rodwell which will benefit them and us.
Norman Turner
80 Posted 02/09/2011 at 21:43:22
80 Posted 02/09/2011 at 21:43:22
All you smart arses who continue to say Bill must go, two options:
1) You buy the club
2) You find a buyer
....no takers? thought not!
I am as frustrated as the next Evertonian, but can't do much about it so I get behind the team, the manager, and the club. COYB
1) You buy the club
2) You find a buyer
....no takers? thought not!
I am as frustrated as the next Evertonian, but can't do much about it so I get behind the team, the manager, and the club. COYB
Colin Grierson
81 Posted 02/09/2011 at 22:05:39
81 Posted 02/09/2011 at 22:05:39
Norman!!!! Shhhhh!!!! Wipe the shite from your eyes lad. We're all behind the team. stop being so fookin sanctimonius!!!
Norman Turner
82 Posted 02/09/2011 at 22:45:26
82 Posted 02/09/2011 at 22:45:26
cheers Colin - some are behind the team, some aren't (read the posts 'lad').
So re my other points will you buy the club?....thought not!
can you find a buyer?....thought not!
sanctimonious? .... take a look in the mirror
So re my other points will you buy the club?....thought not!
can you find a buyer?....thought not!
sanctimonious? .... take a look in the mirror
Lewis Morrison
83 Posted 02/09/2011 at 22:03:37
83 Posted 02/09/2011 at 22:03:37
Norman Turner,
1) If i had the money i would!
2) If i was the owner i would put the club UP FOR SALE then a buyer would find me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1) If i had the money i would!
2) If i was the owner i would put the club UP FOR SALE then a buyer would find me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Norman Turner
84 Posted 02/09/2011 at 23:03:12
84 Posted 02/09/2011 at 23:03:12
Lewis,
it is obvious we are for sale
what do you want, a door drop with the Echo?
it is obvious we are for sale
what do you want, a door drop with the Echo?
Norman Turner
85 Posted 02/09/2011 at 23:05:04
85 Posted 02/09/2011 at 23:05:04
Lewis, also hundreds of thousands of houses are up for sale without finding a buyer
we have an old (but amazing) stadium, a lot of debt, and a VERY noisy neighbour who despite not winning the title for over 20 years still have an inexplicable pull
That is why any investor sees us as a poor investment....which hurts
we have an old (but amazing) stadium, a lot of debt, and a VERY noisy neighbour who despite not winning the title for over 20 years still have an inexplicable pull
That is why any investor sees us as a poor investment....which hurts
Lewis Morrison
86 Posted 02/09/2011 at 23:07:06
86 Posted 02/09/2011 at 23:07:06
Norman,
"Obvious we are for sale"???
Please explain, thousends of us need it!
"Obvious we are for sale"???
Please explain, thousends of us need it!
Norman Turner
87 Posted 02/09/2011 at 23:13:22
87 Posted 02/09/2011 at 23:13:22
Lewis, read the media, listen to the radio, watch the TV... it is blatantly obvious we are for sale at a fair price.
I'm sure Kenwright doesn't enjoy presiding over a loss-making business that he has loved all his life.
But hopefully I will wake up in the morning to find you are the new owner and chairman and all our problems are in the past... but no, the reality is I will wake up to find you complaining and pointing the finger at people who are operating in impossible circumstances.
It's the easy option isn't it?
For god's sake, wish for better but support the reality.
I'm sure Kenwright doesn't enjoy presiding over a loss-making business that he has loved all his life.
But hopefully I will wake up in the morning to find you are the new owner and chairman and all our problems are in the past... but no, the reality is I will wake up to find you complaining and pointing the finger at people who are operating in impossible circumstances.
It's the easy option isn't it?
For god's sake, wish for better but support the reality.
Kevin Freaney
88 Posted 02/09/2011 at 23:21:00
88 Posted 02/09/2011 at 23:21:00
Probably been posted before but the thing that worried me about the Arteta transfer was the fact that Arsenal were cash rich and desperate during the last hours of the transfer deadline. Now, if the position was reversed we would have ended up paying almost £20m being held to ransom by the selling team, but yet again, incompentent management at Everton allowed Arteta to go for £10m (even knowing we'd lose 10%). Very poor piece of business on our part when you see Wickham sign for £12.5 and Henderson for £20m (granted they're young, but also unproven).
Add to that the fact the deal went right to the wire and the money wasn't available to spend (actually, all our deals went to the wire). Again, terrible management by the board.
Best of luck to Arteta and I wish him all the best. I'll always remember the good times.
Add to that the fact the deal went right to the wire and the money wasn't available to spend (actually, all our deals went to the wire). Again, terrible management by the board.
Best of luck to Arteta and I wish him all the best. I'll always remember the good times.
Lewis Morrison
89 Posted 02/09/2011 at 23:21:42
89 Posted 02/09/2011 at 23:21:42
Oh sorry Norman, if the media say we are for sale then it must be true.
It has nothing to do with them being controlled by Ross and telling us exactly what Billy Bullshit wants us to hear though, ay???
By the way i do support my team and get behind them! Every week home and away, win lose or draw!!!
It has nothing to do with them being controlled by Ross and telling us exactly what Billy Bullshit wants us to hear though, ay???
By the way i do support my team and get behind them! Every week home and away, win lose or draw!!!
Laurie Hartley
90 Posted 03/09/2011 at 07:15:17
90 Posted 03/09/2011 at 07:15:17
Chad Schofiedl @ 60.
F*ck me - why didn't I remember that.?
F*ck me - why didn't I remember that.?
Stephen Kenny
92 Posted 03/09/2011 at 13:12:13
92 Posted 03/09/2011 at 13:12:13
I can see how you can say he's been dire for 18 months. he was on and off last season. That, I believe was due the the injury. He'd actually started this season quite well.
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When was he on?
I remember two good games from him all season Man u at home and Newcastle away.
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When was he on?
I remember two good games from him all season Man u at home and Newcastle away.
Stephen Kenny
93 Posted 03/09/2011 at 13:15:03
93 Posted 03/09/2011 at 13:15:03
* Not newcastle, Sunderland
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1 Posted 01/09/2011 at 22:35:58
We will miss him because we have no one to fill his boots at a time when he was being deployed in the more attacking midfield role in which he thrives. Early last season he was being asked to play too deep and he was clearly unhappy with it.
I'm struggling to see how the void of creativity and incisive passing is going to be filled, to be honest. Leon Osman is the obvious person to fill Arteta's position but he is maddeningly inconsistent so the biggest onus will fall on the shoulders of Marouane Fellaini... but he is better suited to the holding role. There will be added pressure on Ross Barkley, too.
And Lord help is if an injury crisis strikes...
As concerned as I am about team morale now, I am looking forward to seeing how the two new boys adapt, though. Drenthe has everything to prove and could thrive against some of the weaker Premier League defenses and while Stracquarlursi being turned down by Leicester (who bought Beckford instead) doesn't inspire much confidence, I'm not going to judge anyone until they've kicked a ball in the Royal Blue jersey.