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Maurane Fellaini ? an objective viewpoint
By Colin O'Keeffe :: 17/11/2011
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I?ve just heard the news that Maurane Fellaini has signed a five-year deal. In the BBC website article, Robert Elstone states that ?Maurane has been a hugely influential player since his arrival.?
I don?t get to enough games to make a judgement from my own experience of seeing him play. However, I?ve been keeping up to date with something called the Castro Edge Rankings. The Castrol Edge Rankings is a rolling 12-month ranking of footballers from across Europe's top 5 leagues and is based on real performances and 100% accurate objective data.
Performance analysts analyse each player's performance in every Premier League, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1 and Champions League match. They award each player a Castrol Index score for every match based on their every touch of the ball on the pitch and assess whether it has a positive or negative impact on a team?s ability to score or concede a goal.
So I decided to look at how Fellaini is rated on this and compare this to how other Everton players are rated. Interestingly, this is how they are all ranked.
| EFC Castrol-Edge rankings | |||
| Ranking (All players in top 5 Euro leagues) | Ranking last month | Player | Ranking points |
| 174 | 93 | P. Jagielka | 652 |
| 223 | 186 | L. Osman | 635 |
| 223 | 174 | S. Coleman | 635 |
| 232 | 157 | L. Baines | 632 |
| 343 | 174 | S. Distin | 600 |
| 444 | 83 | T. Cahill | 579 |
| 444 | 381 | P. Neville | 579 |
| 585 | 972 | L. Saha | 553 |
| 596 | 895 | J. Rodwell | 551 |
| 748 | 957 | T. Hibbert | 518 |
| 763 | 720 | T.Howard | 514 |
| 817 | 948 | M.Fellaini | 497 |
| 985 | 827 | J. Heitinga | 436 |
| 1234 | 1198 | R. Drenthe | 299 |
| 1454 | 1338 | D. Bilyaletdinov | 208 |
| 1609 | 1481 | V. Anichebe | 155 |
| 1979 | 1885 | M. Gueye | 47 |
| 1992 | 1490 | M. Hahnemann | 44 |
| 1999 | 1965 | R. Barkley | 42 |
| 2035 | 2041 | A. Vellios | 35 |
By the way, the top Castrol ranked players in Europe are Messi, Gomez, Benezema, Van Persie and Ronaldo ? not much to argue with there!
My perception of Fellaini is that he is a decent player ? but someone who doesn?t impact enough where it really matters (ie, in the final third of either half). I just wonder if the club will be getting genuine value for money from this contract I imagine won?t be cheap...
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Nick Entwistle
2 Posted 17/11/2011 at 15:05:24
2 Posted 17/11/2011 at 15:05:24
When managers use this to pick their best XI let me know.
I wouldn't use this to wonder anything about a player and so is rather unfair on The Hair.
As for Messi and Gomez, lets see their points rack up when chasing a Hibbert punt.
The guy is a good footballer who needs better than Neville in midfield. Glad he's signed.
And don't want to be fussy, but if your opinion is partly based on this index, then it would be subjective.
I wouldn't use this to wonder anything about a player and so is rather unfair on The Hair.
As for Messi and Gomez, lets see their points rack up when chasing a Hibbert punt.
The guy is a good footballer who needs better than Neville in midfield. Glad he's signed.
And don't want to be fussy, but if your opinion is partly based on this index, then it would be subjective.
Colin O'Keeffe
3 Posted 17/11/2011 at 15:16:21
3 Posted 17/11/2011 at 15:16:21
Michael ? the 12-month rolling does explain why, say Hahnemann rates higher than Barkley. It'll be his apperances for Wolves that mean he has higher rankings.
As for current form ? ok it's not the best guide although you could argue the drop in rankings from month to month shows form quite well. I have to say I've always been someone who has slated Osman in the past and I was surprised by his ranking ? but then again he does score and assist his fair share and was excellent in the second half of last season.
As for current form ? ok it's not the best guide although you could argue the drop in rankings from month to month shows form quite well. I have to say I've always been someone who has slated Osman in the past and I was surprised by his ranking ? but then again he does score and assist his fair share and was excellent in the second half of last season.
Chris Fisher
4 Posted 17/11/2011 at 15:30:11
4 Posted 17/11/2011 at 15:30:11
I was wondering how long it would take for someone to try and put a negative spin on this! Less than a couple of hours was my bet!
Can we not just be happy that one of our best players has pleged his future to us?! Would it have been better to save a few bob on Marouane's contract and just let him run his contract down until he could leave us for free??
Can we not just be happy that one of our best players has pleged his future to us?! Would it have been better to save a few bob on Marouane's contract and just let him run his contract down until he could leave us for free??
Luke O'Farrell
5 Posted 17/11/2011 at 16:20:28
5 Posted 17/11/2011 at 16:20:28
Fellaini is only 'a decent player'. If he is only decent, then I'd love to hear the descriptions of some of the remaining members of our squad.
He's been our best player for over a month now.
He's been our best player for over a month now.
Michael Kenrick
6 Posted 17/11/2011 at 16:36:29
6 Posted 17/11/2011 at 16:36:29
Colin, I don't suppose you can pull a table from any time earlier this season, so that we could figure out the differential for each player, as you say?
Osman had a good spell last season... but I would have thought by any measure Baines was far far more effective than Osman, even when Ossie was at his best.
Similarly Coleman is currently on what I consider to be a very poor run of form. It would be interesting to see how well the one-/two-month differential numbers reflect perceptions of current form, and then perhaps apply them to Fellaini.
Don't forget, Fellaini missed the last three months of the season, which must artificially depress his numbers significantly in your table.
Lies, damned lies, and statistics.
Osman had a good spell last season... but I would have thought by any measure Baines was far far more effective than Osman, even when Ossie was at his best.
Similarly Coleman is currently on what I consider to be a very poor run of form. It would be interesting to see how well the one-/two-month differential numbers reflect perceptions of current form, and then perhaps apply them to Fellaini.
Don't forget, Fellaini missed the last three months of the season, which must artificially depress his numbers significantly in your table.
Lies, damned lies, and statistics.
Colin O'Keeffe
7 Posted 17/11/2011 at 17:06:27
7 Posted 17/11/2011 at 17:06:27
Michael - you pull a team table from the site for earlier in the season. But you can do a search on individual players and see how their graph changes over time (and compare 2 players at once). Fellaini was affected by the injury - but according to the stats he wasn't pulling up any trees before this injury either - although it has to be said he's on an upwards curve at the moment. my point would be that he doesn't jump out as a £70,000 a week player.
What you perceive about the relativepartly reflected in the stats - Osman was way behind baines on the rankings in February of last year - he then accelerated to near parity with Baines by the end of the season and is now on an equal footing!!!
Maybe sometimes it's good to have some data to go with the opinion/perception - neither being king?
What you perceive about the relativepartly reflected in the stats - Osman was way behind baines on the rankings in February of last year - he then accelerated to near parity with Baines by the end of the season and is now on an equal footing!!!
Maybe sometimes it's good to have some data to go with the opinion/perception - neither being king?
Jimmy Daly
8 Posted 17/11/2011 at 18:01:27
8 Posted 17/11/2011 at 18:01:27
Statistics can be viewed by the individual any way he or she chooses.
Example........18% of all deaths on the roads are caused by alchol. Therefore the other 82% are caused by sober drivers. Stands to reason, you are safer driving drunk.!!!!!!
Example........18% of all deaths on the roads are caused by alchol. Therefore the other 82% are caused by sober drivers. Stands to reason, you are safer driving drunk.!!!!!!
Graham Bailey
10 Posted 17/11/2011 at 19:29:14
10 Posted 17/11/2011 at 19:29:14
You don't go the games and you can't spell the player's name correctly.
You start a thread entitled, 'An Objective Viewpoint', when in fact all you want to do is moan.
You then use some wanky half-cocked ratings system, seemingly devised by cretins, to back up whatever non-existent point it is you are trying to make.
You sir, have no right to an opinion. not just because you don't go or because you cannot spell but because you are quite clearly a moron.
You start a thread entitled, 'An Objective Viewpoint', when in fact all you want to do is moan.
You then use some wanky half-cocked ratings system, seemingly devised by cretins, to back up whatever non-existent point it is you are trying to make.
You sir, have no right to an opinion. not just because you don't go or because you cannot spell but because you are quite clearly a moron.
Dave Roberts
11 Posted 17/11/2011 at 19:41:31
11 Posted 17/11/2011 at 19:41:31
Calm down lads, Moron is a strong word! But nevertheless it is a load of crap.
You can't measure a player's performance or effectiveness merely by noting and rating whatever he 'actually' does. There are nuances that are not easily measured or marked and things that happen off the ball that presumably the assessor is not even looking at or for.
Does anybody remember Alex Scott? He would run down the right wing about four times in a game and send gorgeous crosses over for Royle to score many of his goals. For the other 88 minutes he would do fuck all. But when he wasn't there you missed him!
The game is too simple for statistics.
You can't measure a player's performance or effectiveness merely by noting and rating whatever he 'actually' does. There are nuances that are not easily measured or marked and things that happen off the ball that presumably the assessor is not even looking at or for.
Does anybody remember Alex Scott? He would run down the right wing about four times in a game and send gorgeous crosses over for Royle to score many of his goals. For the other 88 minutes he would do fuck all. But when he wasn't there you missed him!
The game is too simple for statistics.
Robbie Muldoon
12 Posted 17/11/2011 at 19:53:42
12 Posted 17/11/2011 at 19:53:42
Bollocks, don't read into this statistical shite. Unfortunately I do belive David Moyes relies on something similar to rate his squad. I think he has moved on from his 'star chart' sticker board these days, hasn't he?
Ray Said
13 Posted 17/11/2011 at 19:55:38
13 Posted 17/11/2011 at 19:55:38
What your own eyes tell you is all you need to know about any player,
My eyes tell me that Fellaini is s very good defensive midfielder, often played out of position, who we should build a team around.
James Martin
14 Posted 17/11/2011 at 19:56:12
14 Posted 17/11/2011 at 19:56:12
He's not moaning, the fact that everyone has got so angry about this shows just what a prejudiced unobjective view we have over Fellaini, how dare anyone say a word against him. They're just statistics he's offered up for us to interpret and he's asking the question is this sort of midfielder worth 70k a week? What should Baines' salary be if Fellaini's is 70k? Our form with him in the team hasn't ever been that great and at the moment its absolutely terrible. We've got two great centre backs, one of the leagues best left backs, the future of the england engine room (in Capellos opinion) , two proven wide men (one a former real madrid player) and a striker up front who most in the game would recognise as top quality. Yet we're rubbish.
If nothing else these stats show that people need to look beyond the usual excuses just chucked around. We haven't got enough strikers (there's 5 on the books) its moyes' negative 4-5-1, Osman is rubbish, Hibbert is rubbish, Jagielka is rubbish, everyone but Fellaini and Baines is rubbish. This just doesn't add up. Fellaini has to carry the can for some of our failings, for a 15 million pound defensive mid our defensive record is awful with him in the team. His disciplinary record is terrible and these stas show that it is he not Rodwell who is the mian instigator of the senseless crab like passing.
His expensive price tag means people see him as this marquee player, the last dregs of world class talent in the team that if we let go of will result in relegation. Its ridiculous. He's a good decent player but simply not the best at Everton and nowhere near the level Arteta used to be at on the same wage.
If nothing else these stats show that people need to look beyond the usual excuses just chucked around. We haven't got enough strikers (there's 5 on the books) its moyes' negative 4-5-1, Osman is rubbish, Hibbert is rubbish, Jagielka is rubbish, everyone but Fellaini and Baines is rubbish. This just doesn't add up. Fellaini has to carry the can for some of our failings, for a 15 million pound defensive mid our defensive record is awful with him in the team. His disciplinary record is terrible and these stas show that it is he not Rodwell who is the mian instigator of the senseless crab like passing.
His expensive price tag means people see him as this marquee player, the last dregs of world class talent in the team that if we let go of will result in relegation. Its ridiculous. He's a good decent player but simply not the best at Everton and nowhere near the level Arteta used to be at on the same wage.
Andy Morden
15 Posted 17/11/2011 at 19:55:24
15 Posted 17/11/2011 at 19:55:24
Objective data. The fact that measures of effectivness and performance have been defined by human minds make them subjective measures, to an extent. I.e. what are the markers of good peformance and why? For whom? Having watched the video a human 'objectively' decides if a player's pass, tackle etc positivley or negatively influences the game. In turn, such interventions are rated by the zones they take place in. So, you could rack up a lot of points by accurately passing the ball around in not very offensive positions (i.e. like We do when we pass in front of the oppositions back four with no penetration). In terms of defense, if you set up to sit deep and defend, well, you will score highly for making particular interventions in more critical positions. Not that Everton have been sitting deep and playing a defensive game all season *cough*. So Jag's last ditch interventions in our own box will score highly. And the way we've played means he's probably needed to do it a lot! So the objective measure of an individual player's performance misses out the context of the team's system, arguably. Meh, sounds ropey to me.
Christopher Kelly
16 Posted 17/11/2011 at 20:27:20
16 Posted 17/11/2011 at 20:27:20
Something good must be brewing here because that afro-headed man's father wouldn't let him sign with us unless we truly are about to get bought or he's going to be sold to a bigger club with Champions League aspirations...
His Daddy has been a pain in the ass for far too long to make me think he signed to continue playing with this shithouse as is..... Happy days ahead???
His Daddy has been a pain in the ass for far too long to make me think he signed to continue playing with this shithouse as is..... Happy days ahead???
Christopher Kelly
17 Posted 17/11/2011 at 20:33:12
17 Posted 17/11/2011 at 20:33:12
And fuck those rankings while you're at it....
Rob Hollis
18 Posted 17/11/2011 at 20:34:40
18 Posted 17/11/2011 at 20:34:40
Fellaini could play for any club in the league. At this moment in time he is only second to Baines as our top player. While we hope a couple of others will develop into top class players, Fellaini is one of only two we have.
Surprised he signed!
Surprised he signed!
Steve Edwards
19 Posted 17/11/2011 at 20:28:07
19 Posted 17/11/2011 at 20:28:07
Thank heaven. This is a real pick me up. Yes, it really is like signing a new player. I'd given up on him signing a new contract and it would have been a disaster for the club if he had run his contract down.
He is without doubt our most influential midfield player. I've rated him highly ever since he came to the club. By the way, the article is a load of shite. Its the kind of thing some nerd would write.
He is without doubt our most influential midfield player. I've rated him highly ever since he came to the club. By the way, the article is a load of shite. Its the kind of thing some nerd would write.
Bob Parrington
20 Posted 17/11/2011 at 21:36:22
20 Posted 17/11/2011 at 21:36:22
This is great news about Fellaini, whichever way you look at it. If he stays he will settle and play as we know he can and it helps with team stability. If he goes, we should be able to demand a high transfer fee for him.
Colin O'Keeffe
21 Posted 17/11/2011 at 22:22:43
21 Posted 17/11/2011 at 22:22:43
Gotta laugh ? anything other than worshiping at the feet of Fellaini gets some people on this site well wound up. I don't actually think stats sites liike this necessarily tell the whole story - but I've seen enough of Fellaini to ask questions about the logic of
spending the amount we have on him in transfer fees and wages.
If you add up £15 million for the transfer fee, 4 years of his previous contract at around £30,000/week and potentially 5 years at £70,000/week. That adds up to around £38 million!!!!!
spending the amount we have on him in transfer fees and wages.
If you add up £15 million for the transfer fee, 4 years of his previous contract at around £30,000/week and potentially 5 years at £70,000/week. That adds up to around £38 million!!!!!
Eugene Ruane
22 Posted 17/11/2011 at 22:54:02
22 Posted 17/11/2011 at 22:54:02
I quite like him Colin, happy enough we signed him, think he CAN play, but agree completely with you re his impact (and definitely his impact for the money spent).
Bob Parrington
23 Posted 18/11/2011 at 01:16:19
23 Posted 18/11/2011 at 01:16:19
Steve #18 I agree, it is good to have a "positive" for a change. However, we can't disagree, either, with the sentiments of Colin#20 and Eugene #21.
The point I was trying to make is that the lad can play well but, like most players (if not all) needs to be settled. However, the fact he's signed for 5 years means, if he doesn't settle and start to play well (like he can), wants a move and another team wants him badly enough, we should get good money for him. Yes, OK, I'm a bit mercenary!
The point I was trying to make is that the lad can play well but, like most players (if not all) needs to be settled. However, the fact he's signed for 5 years means, if he doesn't settle and start to play well (like he can), wants a move and another team wants him badly enough, we should get good money for him. Yes, OK, I'm a bit mercenary!
Kirk McArdle
24 Posted 18/11/2011 at 03:49:14
24 Posted 18/11/2011 at 03:49:14
When we bought Fellaini, Moyes said that he had been scouting him for some time. We will have to take him with his word on this, but the first time I had ever heard of this guy was when he basically took Liverpool apart single handedly in a european qualifier. He was the dynamic box-2-box midfielder that we were crying out for.
For me he has not lived up to his hype/potential. He if forever being labelled a defensive midfielder but I do not see him as this. He has the ability to get up and down the pitch and to control the game.
He could be the complete midfield package IF MOYES RELEASED THIS.
For me we have never replaced Carsley. Some will say that the game has moved away from this kind of player, but I still feel that this is just as an important player as the striker. Some guy doing the basics and being a pain in the arse. Protect the 2 centre halves, win the ball give it easy to the midfield er the shows for the ball. IMO Rodweel is not this player either. I have no qualms about Fellaini + Rodwell in front of a Carsley, Lass Diarra, Alex Song, Essien, Obi Mikel....... this is what we need. Rodwell + Fellaini getting forward supporting the striker with the knowledge of protection behind them.
Don't ask me to name a player as no transfer budget doesn't allow speculation!!
To sum up. The big Fella needs to step up to the plate and show us why he got the big bucks.
For me he has not lived up to his hype/potential. He if forever being labelled a defensive midfielder but I do not see him as this. He has the ability to get up and down the pitch and to control the game.
He could be the complete midfield package IF MOYES RELEASED THIS.
For me we have never replaced Carsley. Some will say that the game has moved away from this kind of player, but I still feel that this is just as an important player as the striker. Some guy doing the basics and being a pain in the arse. Protect the 2 centre halves, win the ball give it easy to the midfield er the shows for the ball. IMO Rodweel is not this player either. I have no qualms about Fellaini + Rodwell in front of a Carsley, Lass Diarra, Alex Song, Essien, Obi Mikel....... this is what we need. Rodwell + Fellaini getting forward supporting the striker with the knowledge of protection behind them.
Don't ask me to name a player as no transfer budget doesn't allow speculation!!
To sum up. The big Fella needs to step up to the plate and show us why he got the big bucks.
Dave Lynch
26 Posted 18/11/2011 at 08:33:32
26 Posted 18/11/2011 at 08:33:32
Kirk.
Fellaini imo does step up to the plate.
It's that wanker Moyes who needs to up his game.
Fellaini imo does step up to the plate.
It's that wanker Moyes who needs to up his game.
John Nelson
27 Posted 18/11/2011 at 08:33:48
27 Posted 18/11/2011 at 08:33:48
Agree with the general consensus on here that if you are to base your opinion on players based on these absolute tosh statistics, you need to follow another sport. Total bollocks.
I'm absolutely made up he's signed for another 5 years. I think he's a superb centre mid, who we should aim to build the team around.
All in all funnily enough a very good week for us, as all our England lads (senior, u21 and u18s) have played superb, not to mention hopefully rodwell bringing his game to another level.
Looks like a bit of good news for us for once hey.
COYB
I'm absolutely made up he's signed for another 5 years. I think he's a superb centre mid, who we should aim to build the team around.
All in all funnily enough a very good week for us, as all our England lads (senior, u21 and u18s) have played superb, not to mention hopefully rodwell bringing his game to another level.
Looks like a bit of good news for us for once hey.
COYB
Eric Myles
28 Posted 18/11/2011 at 09:11:29
28 Posted 18/11/2011 at 09:11:29
Dave #24,
you're right, it's the managers fault, if Moyes would only coach Fellaini to face the sidelines when he passes the ball then we would finally see a forward pass from him.
I don't understand why Moyes can't figure this simple training routine out, or why he doesn't tell him to jump to try to win balls in the air.
you're right, it's the managers fault, if Moyes would only coach Fellaini to face the sidelines when he passes the ball then we would finally see a forward pass from him.
I don't understand why Moyes can't figure this simple training routine out, or why he doesn't tell him to jump to try to win balls in the air.
Martin Mason
29 Posted 18/11/2011 at 09:40:51
29 Posted 18/11/2011 at 09:40:51
Surely it is 100% subjective not objective.
Matthew Tait
30 Posted 18/11/2011 at 11:40:19
30 Posted 18/11/2011 at 11:40:19
Fellaini was injured for a decent chunk of last season, and said himself that he was only 70% or 80% fit at the start of this season.
So even if that list had any merit at all (hint: it doesn't), it should hardly be surprising that over the 12 month period Fellaini would be down the rankings.
So even if that list had any merit at all (hint: it doesn't), it should hardly be surprising that over the 12 month period Fellaini would be down the rankings.
Eugene Ruane
31 Posted 18/11/2011 at 12:39:15
31 Posted 18/11/2011 at 12:39:15
Kirk McArdle (23) - you say..
"For me we have never replaced Carsley. Some will say that the game has moved away from this kind of player, but I still feel that this is just as an important player as the striker. Some guy doing the basics and being a pain in the arse. Protect the 2 centre halves, win the ball give it easy to the midfield er the shows for the ball"
Agree 100%.
"For me we have never replaced Carsley. Some will say that the game has moved away from this kind of player, but I still feel that this is just as an important player as the striker. Some guy doing the basics and being a pain in the arse. Protect the 2 centre halves, win the ball give it easy to the midfield er the shows for the ball"
Agree 100%.
Kris Boner
32 Posted 18/11/2011 at 14:03:54
32 Posted 18/11/2011 at 14:03:54
Very much with Michael Kenrick there. Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics. Even in your preliminary you mentioned the stats were based on the biggest contributions towards goals at either end. So in the dead centre of the pitch, where he does all his work, is it likely anything he does will 'directly' end in a goal?
Roberto Birquet
33 Posted 18/11/2011 at 17:39:20
33 Posted 18/11/2011 at 17:39:20
Colin
The Castrol Edge Rankings is a rolling 12-month ranking of footballers from across Europe's top 5 leagues and is based on real performances and 100% accurate objective data.
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You'll believe anything if you believe that PR crap. And how is it assessed? If you miss a few games - possibly through injury, do you fall down the list and become a worse passer of the ball than Tony Hibbert? You certainly don't explain such probable complications. Perhaps, you don't know the answers. Which would beggar the question; what the Hell is this in aid of?
The Castrol Edge Rankings is a rolling 12-month ranking of footballers from across Europe's top 5 leagues and is based on real performances and 100% accurate objective data.
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You'll believe anything if you believe that PR crap. And how is it assessed? If you miss a few games - possibly through injury, do you fall down the list and become a worse passer of the ball than Tony Hibbert? You certainly don't explain such probable complications. Perhaps, you don't know the answers. Which would beggar the question; what the Hell is this in aid of?
Roberto Birquet
34 Posted 18/11/2011 at 18:15:59
34 Posted 18/11/2011 at 18:15:59
Rob Hollis
Surprised he signed!
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Me too, I was gobsmacked - saw it on Bluekipper first; just a shot of his mug and the number 5. I thought what's that? Clicked - bloody hell, yer having a laff?
I'd been wondering how much we could get for him in Jan: only year and half left - prices fall when under two years remain on a deal; but he is not cup-tied for CL.
The reasons he gave seemed honourable, but who of us is not cynical nowadays, though his mention that he is just 23 may heklp to explain things.
I also wondered of whether this was a sign that new funds are likely, but best not even think that. If the Club has been honest (big if) we have £10 million available (everyone HAD TO GO but Arteta, but we let him) for a much needed striker. I hope we have that striker ready for NY day, and I also want Donovan back. Despite his age, we need someone to get out of the blocks for us; I'd sell Bily to get him (£4 m each way).
Surprised he signed!
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Me too, I was gobsmacked - saw it on Bluekipper first; just a shot of his mug and the number 5. I thought what's that? Clicked - bloody hell, yer having a laff?
I'd been wondering how much we could get for him in Jan: only year and half left - prices fall when under two years remain on a deal; but he is not cup-tied for CL.
The reasons he gave seemed honourable, but who of us is not cynical nowadays, though his mention that he is just 23 may heklp to explain things.
I also wondered of whether this was a sign that new funds are likely, but best not even think that. If the Club has been honest (big if) we have £10 million available (everyone HAD TO GO but Arteta, but we let him) for a much needed striker. I hope we have that striker ready for NY day, and I also want Donovan back. Despite his age, we need someone to get out of the blocks for us; I'd sell Bily to get him (£4 m each way).
Matthew Lovekin
35 Posted 19/11/2011 at 07:22:46
35 Posted 19/11/2011 at 07:22:46
Colin, according to your rankings, Fellaini has improved from 948th place last month to 817th place this month.
Therefore, isn't Fellaini improving ala Rodwell and Hibbert???
Therefore, isn't Fellaini improving ala Rodwell and Hibbert???
Ted Wardell
36 Posted 14/12/2011 at 20:15:13
36 Posted 14/12/2011 at 20:15:13
Fellaini does to much fouling in the wrong area's of the pitch.Gets yellow carded misses about four games a season through suspension or gets injured.He dosn't play enough positive football to keep his place.
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1 Posted 17/11/2011 at 15:02:36
How does Hahnemann rate above Barkley? And Osman as the second highest ranking?
For current form: Utter bollocks.
(I guess the excuse is 12-month rolling.... It needs to be one-month rolling. As the saying goes, "What have you done for me today???")