Season 2011-12 Fan Articles
Dignified Inferiority
By James Martin :: 14/03/2012
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I have been one of Moyes's supporters for a long long time. Even in the depths of despair in the middle of the first half of this season, I was still 100% behind the man. The usual complaints of negative football, 4-5-1, Moyes favourites (who on reflection have been overharshly pilloried), and tactical ineptitude I never did buy. I accepted that every manager has their failings and this was just an overreaction to the odd gaps in Moyes's impresive overall package.
Last night changed everything. I can accept the worst of Everton performances (and there have been some bad ones), bad players, lethargic attitude, bad luck, whatever the reason for them. Every team has them, they're just an expression of inconsistency. I have never, however, seen an Everton manager send out a team to purposefully lose a game in the manner that Moyes did last night.
The fact it was a derby ? and he knows how important derbies are ? just made it all the more unforgivable. Even if he wins the FA Cup he will never get this stain off the collective memory of Evertonians.
Moyes has always had a negative (what I used to call realistic) outlook on the big teams in the league. Despite this, I've always fancied us against every single one of them but Liverpool. Quite simply, Moyes has an inferiority complex about them and is only too happy to play the role that every kopite wants him to play:
"Thanks for saving Everton from relegation but not making them too good, giving us 6 points a season, but doing it in a graceful manner 'for the good of the city', hobnobbing with all of Liverpool's and Everton's past players."
The usual crap they come out with about "I'd love both teams to get to the Cup Final (as long as they win of course); it's good to see both teams doing well in the league; we don't hate Everton we only hate Mancs".
Basically, for the kopites, everything is alright on team Merseyside as long as they're winning, and if they're not they'll kick off. Moyes is only too happy to accept this; I'm sure he had a nice glass of wine with Kenny after it... (wouldn't have happened the other way round though, would it?)
As much as I hated Benitez, he insulted us when he drew or lost to us and they loved it. He loved winding us up, sticking the boot in and beating us. I don't think I've heard an inflammatory word about Liverpool from Moyes ever.
It would be great to have a manager with the spirit of Mourinho who was absolutely detested by rival fans. Moyes is every Liverpool fan's second favourite manager, they should hate him the same amount I hate Dalglish. Instead, he tells them what a great team they have, gives them 6 points a season, and keeps up their ridiculous benevolent neighbours 'proper football club' visage.
They've never been worse, they have a crap team and some of the most moronic undignified players and fans in the entire league, there hasn't been a better decade to not only win football matches agianst them but to win propaganda battles against them. Instead, they're battering us incessantly in both departments and all I ever hear is Moyes telling everyone how good they are. Every season Moyes has got near Liverpool, he has choked, whenever he gets inside the magical 3 point margin of them, we invariably lose.
Moyes needs to remind himself that he's not some sort of manager for the city's PR or to keep Everton's 'dignity'. SAF, Wenger and Mourinho haven't got a shred of dignity, instead they just have hatred underlined with begrudging respect because they win. LIverpool fans should hate Moyes like they hate Ferguson but none do. Moyes needs to get back to the people who make up The People's Club rather than working for the approval of those up in the LMA ivory tower or Merseyside's footballing alumni.
The pundits are exactly the same: Aldo, Rush, Phil Thompson ? absolutely despicable characters who are as biased as anything, make sly patronising digs at us all the time and backing Liverpool to the point of looking stupid. Sharp, Nevin, everyone else who played in a team after 87, are all too happy to fall into line, be objectively critical about Everton, and not say anything too controversial about Liverpool ? all in the name of city unity.
It's a stupid game that only we play and only we are losing out heavily on. Get a manager with a bit of self-pride who understands Nil Satis Nisi Optimum and hates the RedShite as much as we do because I'm fed up of having to constantly accept our inferiority in a dignified manner, an inferiority that doesn't exist but is constructed from Moyes's adherence to this ridiculous ideology.
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3 Posted 14/03/2012 at 14:58:56
Sadly Moyes does have an inferiority complex with them. Particularly at Anfield. Not only has he never won there but never looked in danger of doing so. Weve never scored first in a league match at Anfield under Moyes. Says it all.
4 Posted 14/03/2012 at 15:14:46
You've just put my own thoughts into words far better than I could. The first thought that crosses our next managers mind must be "objective number 1 is to get above them cunt's and stay there". Alex Ferguson said as much when he wanted to establish Man Utd as the top dogs.
these days building a side to finish 6th-7th should see u above them and give them taste of their own medicine.
While they have always gone for manager's like Shankly and Dalgleish who are out and out winners, we go for fella's who are 'quietly dignified'. Well fuck that, I wan't a nasty horrible bastard who doesn't give a fuck about anything else but establishing us as a force.
5 Posted 14/03/2012 at 15:18:46
We need someone like Brendan Rodgers at the helm to get us playing positive, fearless football.........with Big Dunc and Dave Watson as his first team coaches. He has Colin Pascoe and Alan Curtis doing those jobs at Swansea, as the former players side of things, and its working.
Last night was the best chance to go and assert ourselves as the top team in the city, and we bottled it. A team plays in the image of their manager, and that says it all about Moyes. Heaven help us if we meet the RS in the Cup Final.... global humiliation as we lie down and let them take the cup without so much as a fight.
Moyes Out.
6 Posted 14/03/2012 at 15:18:42
7 Posted 14/03/2012 at 16:17:44
I have defended Moyes to the hilt, been denegrated on more than one forum and in more than one pub for it.
Following that fucking disgrace of a team sheet, followed by a team wide shit out of the highest order, I've completely lost faith in the man.
Some are saying the FA Cup will make up for it... I say our perfect momentum towards that goal has been screwed by a manager who has forgotten derby passion and gambled 3 points, bragging rights and most importantly, the pride of every Everton fan on the off-chance of a quarterfinal win.
Shocking decision, made by a man too comfortable in the job.
8 Posted 14/03/2012 at 18:29:30
So pissed off but you know what? I KNEW we wouldn't win.
Didn't fucking expect to capitulate though.
9 Posted 14/03/2012 at 19:05:02
Shankly was open in his aim to depose EFC he knew being top dog in this city meant you were above most, it's never really been grasped by any of our managers except perhaps big Joe.
10 Posted 14/03/2012 at 19:18:20
11 Posted 14/03/2012 at 19:15:23
Let's get behind the team on Saturday and then we can hopefully enjoy another Wembley visit next month COYB
12 Posted 14/03/2012 at 19:21:47
A respectful nod to Howard but unfortunately he did lose a few cup finals to the shite which sort of puts me in a coma.
It was there for Howie to kill 'em off - never quite happened - whereas Joe had an ordinary team who clearly made it an aim to nail the fuckers, and did.
13 Posted 14/03/2012 at 19:24:52
Not sure Sharp or Nevin are ever objectively critical about Everton but so many truths in your article.
15 Posted 14/03/2012 at 19:40:57
They went into the match on the back of 3 defeats. A good manager would have been looking to put pressure on Liverpool - what did we do - sat back and defended deep.
We have scored less goals than the likes of Blackburn, Bolton and Wolves who are all struggling against relegation. I read an interview with Moyes in one of the papers, he said something to the effect that a few weeks ago he wouldn't have paid to watch Everton !!!! All I would say to that is - YOU decide the tactics mate - so YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.
I saw an interview with Brendan Rodgers - it was after they had lost 0-1 at home to Man United- the goal was blamed on Swansea trying to play too much passing football in their own half - Rodgers refused to blame his defenders saying " If anyone is to blame then it's me - I ask them to play that way" What a contrast to Moyes.
I read that he is being linked with Spurs should Arry get the England job. The only way Moyes will manage Spurs is on Football Manager or FIFA 2011.
No wonder the Kopites were singing "Ten more Years"
The fact is we have gone there with worse teams and given them more of a match. Under Moyes we haven't won at Arsenal, Man United,Liverpool and Chelsea - isn't that a sad reflection of his safety first tactics?
16 Posted 14/03/2012 at 22:17:14
17 Posted 14/03/2012 at 22:20:38
18 Posted 14/03/2012 at 22:31:48
Well said Stephen.
Now why am I thinking Bilic..
19 Posted 15/03/2012 at 00:41:16
Just one of those nights.
Fuck them and up us.
COYB
20 Posted 15/03/2012 at 07:10:47
21 Posted 15/03/2012 at 07:32:08
I just want someone who realises that the game is about scoring more goals than the opposition and not keeping clean sheets. That if you want to win trophies you have to sometimes take risks - be adventurous in your tactics.
Blackburn - a team struggling against relegation - won at Old Trafford!!! They have scored 40 goals in the league so far -- will we score 40 by the end of the season ?
If I was a Spurs fan I would be very worried at the thought of Moyes taking over from Redknapp if Arry gets the " call" from England. 4-5-1 down at "The Lane" !!!! |How long would they put up with that I wonder ?
22 Posted 15/03/2012 at 07:42:10
23 Posted 15/03/2012 at 07:56:43
What a load of garbage, James Martin do you really believe what you wrote?
If so I guess you also believe in Santa and the tooth fairy. Unbelievable some of the nonsense some supposed supporters of Everton FC write on here.
24 Posted 15/03/2012 at 07:59:47
In terms of real, tangible evidence, such as league position, trophies won, fanbase, finance, head to head results, to name a few, we're behind them in every sinlge way, so why should we be the dominant force?
And before you say we've got better players or anything stupid like that, well the tangible evidence above doesn't really back that up, does it.
25 Posted 15/03/2012 at 08:50:38
26 Posted 15/03/2012 at 08:44:27
No wonder our players have a complex about playing there. It's down to him: he's too nice. As much as I hate that that thing across the park, could you imagine his sour little kite when he saw our side? He must have been fucking delighted.
It seems the pinnacle of Moyes's season now is getting a point there. I've got news for you, Moyes: it's not ours... 2 days on and that defeat is still raw, still hurting... it doesn't hurt him though, does it?
Doesn't he realise we've got to live round them go to work with them, drink near them? Obviously not... I'll never forgive him for that on tuesday... never. Take your love-in with the Cabbage Patch Doll elsewhere because I for one am absolutely sick of the pair of you.
27 Posted 15/03/2012 at 09:56:31
28 Posted 15/03/2012 at 10:07:16
29 Posted 15/03/2012 at 10:36:07
Might make good reading for the weeping, the wailing and the wide flag wavers who think the world has come to an end, but they only took a point off us last season and that was courtesy of a poxy penalty.
Teams recover from major setbacks all the time, the harder the recovery, the better the team.
Evertonians used to be men, they knew how to move on to the next challenge without dreaming up ridiculous reasons to wallow in self-pity.
The teenage girl hysteria following this one is beginning to make me feel queasy.
30 Posted 15/03/2012 at 11:14:15
31 Posted 15/03/2012 at 12:10:44
32 Posted 15/03/2012 at 12:10:57
33 Posted 17/03/2012 at 09:15:26
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2 Posted 14/03/2012 at 14:40:36
10 years is way too long, we have suffered low scoring football for many - many years. The trouble is where will Moyes go? None of of CL clubs will make a legitimate approach for him, we really are stuck with him. The club "our club" is/has wasted away, we have no ambitions, Woodison is laughable it's so antiquated. Moyes and Kenwright have done us Good n Propper.
Please no one say "if not Moyes who?"
MOYES & KENWRIGHT OUT!