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There has been a lot of chat about Mikel leaving, selling Beckford, Dave?s ambitions etc etc. We could and probably will go on and on about what if this and what if that. This signing, that signing. The ramifications of what is going on, is that Everton FC are in a mess. Don?t mince any words, we are knackered. If we avoid relegation this season it?ll be a great result.

Where did it all go wrong? Well, the buck stops at the top. Should we blame the Toffee Lady? The Kitman? The Groundsman? The Supporters? No ? we blame the Chairman and the Board of Directors. After all, they are the ones who make the decisions about the day-to-day running of the club, where the money goes (where is that £24 million by the way?), what we spend our money on, who gets paid what. Have they done a good job? Simple answer NO. If the average person is incompetent in their job, they lose it.

Won't our Chairman and Directors resign and get someone who is competent to run a football club in to do a job for us? Or must we continue to put up with what we have got?
Des Kenny, Wallasey     Posted 03/09/2011 at 14:57:34

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Michael Kenrick
1   Posted 03/09/2011 at 15:14:31

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Thing is, Des, I don't think he can bring himself to resign. Read the transcript of the Blue Union meeting the man is a huge Evertonian but he is also arrogant, delusional and proven incompetent.

Well, he could relinquish the Chairmanship of the Board, and put in one of the other directors. But the Board has become a redundant stump of his stooges ? a complete joke. He's the dictator in charge who does everything. As far as I can tell, they perhaps have one Board Meeting each year... if that.

As far as stepping down from the Board and becoming a non-executive Director, that seems impossible for the same reason. A fresh interim board of almost all new faces, as described originally by Colin Fitzpatrick and now amplified by the Blue Union seems the only possible way forward.

But that means the major shareholders relinquishing their nominal control of the club... and most important: placing the destiny of their multi-million pound investment in the hands of others. Which is why Bill still clings 24/7 to the fairytale hope of a buyer... but it must be the right buyer.... and he is the best man to sell the club...

Full circle. Perhaps Blue Union can force a break in the circle of fate that seemingly has us spiraling on this increasingly painful downward path.
Gavin Ramejkis
2   Posted 03/09/2011 at 15:27:01

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Careful Des, you'll have the usual suspects trot out the tired what you going to do about it shite, or better the loser you know, blah blah blah, or the BU have caused the problems, etc
Billy Bradshaw
3   Posted 03/09/2011 at 15:19:09

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No, we don't have to put up with it, Dave ? that's why the Blue Union was formed. Having come back from the meeting in the Casa today, there will be a demonstration organised for the Villa game next week for all like-minded Evertonians who are pissed off with this board. So come and join us and let's make a positive change before it's too late and the club we love disappears.
Billy Bradshaw
4   Posted 03/09/2011 at 15:32:00

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By the way, I forgot to mention there must have been about 1,000 Evertonians in attendance, not bad for the first meeting.
John Audsley
5   Posted 03/09/2011 at 16:21:59

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Bill is clearly an utterly delusional fool but does anyone else get the feeling he ain't too well, physically I mean?

He mentioned a few things in the BU meeting about his doctor and I just wonder if all the stress is REALLY getting to him, he certainly didn't like being booed at the QPR game... erm, I think it might be worse against Villa!!!

I don't like him, he has run the club into the ground with his useless cronies and seems surrounded by yes-men but I wonder if an eventual sale will be somewhat based around the fact that he needs to get out of GP for his own health/sanity etc.

If that comment about him reciting poetry during the BU meeting to the window is anything to go by, Id' say he ain't too well.

I really hope he sees sense and decides that 2011-12 is the time to pack the trainset away and call it a day.
Michael Kenrick
6   Posted 03/09/2011 at 17:09:43

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Perhaps this is a way out for Bill, John. I hadn't thought of this but you're right. He could be rapidly approaching (or has already passed!) the point where he needs to step down on health grounds alone. Trouble is, that arrogant melodramatic streak may make it impossible for him to accept the inevitable. That's what makes the planned peaceful protest march by Blue Union so important ? keeping up the pressure on him.

I was thinking he would bumble along maintaining total control in the same ineffective and incompetent manner for a few more years... but this possibility ? that he really is losing it ? would make the efforts of Blue Union all the more imperative.
Jay Harris
7   Posted 03/09/2011 at 17:24:07

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Michael,
you know about my dislike and mistrust of Kenwright but I wouldnt want the guy to lose his sanity or health even though he's been affecting mine and a number of other blues since he took over.

I do believe that since the DK project going belly up that Green and Earl have a more unhealthy influence on the club hence the BVI loans and 24 million unexplained operating costs.

Maybe Kenwright is trying to sort them out to be able to sell the club on more attractive terms as the previous terms were so complicated it would have put anyone off.

Hopefully the fans feelings will filter through to Earl and Green ("Friends of Everton" my arse) and they also start to feel the pressure.

Roll on the Villa game.
Gary Rimmer
8   Posted 03/09/2011 at 17:39:12

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Michael, where is the downward spiral? Under the last chairman I thought DF was sold behind the manager's back plus we were forced to sell Dacourt and Collins... not able to keep Matterazzi (forgot how to spell his name). Oh for the days of a finished Ginola and the shell of Gazza.

Take out the teams that regularly qualify for ECL and we have been keeping up with the rest. Considering our revenue streams, the chairman took a risk with a number of big signings on big salaries but we just missed out on breaking the top four. But we gave it a good go, it didn't come off.

Now unless a knight in shining armour arrives, we have to regroup. All these enlightend people telling us we need investment, stop talking about it and bring the investment because it's so easy to do isnt it. You know a small city with one club that has a world wide market and the other one that the locals love.

Let's keep it real ? we have won 2 out of 3 in what is going to be a tough year. If the moment your club hits troubled waters all you can do is moan, I'm glad I am not in your lifeboat. Keep the faith. Onward Evertonians.

Steve Higham
9   Posted 03/09/2011 at 18:33:02

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Read an excellent article in the Guardian comparing Stoke and Everton on Friday. The most compelling info for me was how much the respective boards had invested in there clubs.

Stoke: £69 million
Everton: £0.

How can the board's supporters explain that?

Michael Kenrick
10   Posted 03/09/2011 at 18:36:16

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Gary, you seem to be living in the past. Ferguson, Dacourt, Collins, Matterazzi, Ginola, Gascoigne... Yes, we have improved from the low point under Walter Smith... but that was TEN YEARS AGO!!!

We improved... and we peaked. Since that peak, we have been in slow but relentless decline... for the past three seasons. Or haven't you noticed?

"We have won 2 out of 3 in what is going to be a tough year." ? I have no idea what you are talking about there ? we have won NOTHING under the Kenwright regime, and it looks increasingly like that trend will continue.

The club has been in troubled waters for a number of years financially and the stagnation at Boardroom level is what needs to change, followed by a flowdown through the club that includes removing employees who despise the very fans that support it with their hard-earned.

Tom Bowers
11   Posted 03/09/2011 at 18:44:49

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Usually a man with power cannot give it up willingly.They are consumed by it and some will absolutely refuse to listen to other peoples advice or concerns. Now I know little about Kenright and his love for Everton but comes a time when hard facts have to be faced for him and Moyes. Bill controls the finances in conjunction with the bank and I am sure if he could have spent to improve he would have. Don't forget he has to sit and watch the same crap week in and week out like the fans and it has been painful far too many times.
We don't really know what offers have come in to buy part or all of Everton football club and if there has we can only assume they have been not worth considering.
Arteta's head was swayed by the prospect of Europe I believe and in a club with a far better pedigree than Everton over the last 15 years. I don't blame him or Everton for getting the money for a 29 year old who has been getting injured far too often of late.
His ''replacement'' Drenthe is a good player who may just fill the void.
Don't forget that Arteta was with Rangers when we picked him up on loan and he wasn't exactly a household name then.
The big Argentinian striker has some good attributes as well as goalscoring and so I believe we will not miss Becks.
I am cautiously optimistic that the season may well be better than I originally thought as long as the defence gets its act together.
Gary Rimmer
12   Posted 03/09/2011 at 19:30:34

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Micheal you say that was 10 years ago but how many English clubs have won the major titels since then. I really understand were you are coming from but these are the type of meetings that forced a good scousce owner out of the other side and let in two chancers. If I live in the past its because I wont buy into this new philosipy that the only way to be succesful is to sell your soul. Another thing how do we measure success, in my 49yrs of watching EFC (Iwas first took to Goodisin at 11 months old) we have never dominated English football, We have always been on of the top clubs to challange for things and win something every decade or so. The one time we might of done in the 80s it was snatched away from us.
I just dont see how bringing more turbulace to the club helps it. Infact it really hurts me when anyone gives people the chance to put our club down. I might be old fashioned but I have seen the club in much worse situations than the present one. Onward Evertonians
Brian Hill
13   Posted 03/09/2011 at 19:44:04

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Gary Rimmer #8, Tom Bowers #11, there are some fairies at the bottom of the garden, please go and speak to them.
John Audsley
14   Posted 03/09/2011 at 20:00:04

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Tom

Drenthe aint an Arteta replacement and Arteta had gone back to Spain, we got him from Real Soc

Ive never seen Denis play and have no idea what he brings to the party

To be blunt its the worst EFC forward line since 1994 time, only Saha qualifies to be called a striker in my book

Arteta has paid the banks back, if we had sold him a week before the deadline Moyes wouldn't have seen a penny

Remember, Bill begs the banks not to kill us every season doesnt he, and that cant last forever
John Ford
15   Posted 03/09/2011 at 20:00:42

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Interesting points made about Kenwrights personality and the arrogant hard edged self belief he has. I suppose this is common in successful professionals, but thids can include a delusional element, particularly when under stress.

Im strongly of the opinion under the current circumstances that Moyes is absolutely essential to Everton. There is no better manager at working with restricted means. I just hope he is prepared to ride this out until we are again able to offer him reasonable financial backing.
Col Noon
16   Posted 03/09/2011 at 21:07:22

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Anyone else caught wind of this so called "big news" to come out of Everton tomorrow? apparently Mickey Quinn was on TalkSport and made the announcement. The rumour mil on twitter has gone into overdrive with suggestions of JP Mcmanus leading a takeover to James Beattie returning. interesting if anything?
Col Noon
17   Posted 03/09/2011 at 21:22:51

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Here is the link to the show were Quinn makes the announcement. Click on the 11.30-12.00 link and its 10.07secs into the show. Food for thought maybe?

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/listen-again/episode/45767
Karl Masters
18   Posted 03/09/2011 at 21:20:34

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Whilst I agree there needs to be change, just take some time to conside what sort of change you really want to see.

BK may be comparatively potless to a billionaire, but at least as a fan he does at least share our love of the Club and desire to see things done the Everton way, such as loyalty to your Team Manager and no knee jerk sackings after 3 bad resutls etc.

If Everton end up with a Carson Yeung, Hicks & Gillette, Peter Johnson, Egghead, Mike Ashley, Gaydamak or Venkys buyer you can really expect some choppy waters ahead.

WE NEED THE RIGHT CHANGE, THE RIGHT BUYER, NOT JUST ANYBODY.

So, although it may be a far from perfect scenario we find ourselves in now, it could get worse as well as better. Finding the right buyer is more important than just finding any buyer.
Col Noon
19   Posted 03/09/2011 at 21:22:51

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Here is the link to the show were Quinn makes the announcement. Click on the 11.30-12.00 link and its 10.07 secs into the show. Food for thought maybe?

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/listen-again/episode/45767
Alistair Strachan
20   Posted 03/09/2011 at 23:59:18

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The much-maligned Mr Prentice in the Echo penned an article on Friday which, if not exactly revolutionary, at least reflected the dissatisfaction of the fans.

Established regimes CAN be toppled. Arab Spring...Egypt...Libya....

We may think (fear) Blue Bill and co are entrenched...but the inexorable power of popular dissent is rising....

Tick Tock......your time is up, Board chancers!!!!!!!!!
Eric Myles
21   Posted 04/09/2011 at 02:22:52

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Well put Michael #1 and I believe another obstacle to getting in someone to run the Club properly is that we'd have to pay them.

With what?
Dick Fearon
22   Posted 04/09/2011 at 04:28:43

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Mmmm' Col says 'Talk Sport' expects a surprise big announcement to be made. I wonder what it could be. Has anyone got any ideas or wishes what it could be.

Is it another loan deal but this time of a well known star or could it be a changing of the board or something about Davy's future or heaven be praised, a take over bid.

Gavin Ramejkis
23   Posted 04/09/2011 at 11:19:31

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Eric, that's a bit of a misnomer, if the club was being ran properly it should provide sufficient funds to provide a salary, successive CEOs tasked with the day-to-day running have drawn a salary including Keith Wyness who not only got a salary from BK whilst being allowed to run his own business on the club's time but was also paid very handsome performance bonuses despite being off work due to illness. If the person at the top runs the business properly, none of these shennanigans would take place.

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