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Where is the cavalry?
47 Comments: The transfer window has been open almost a week now and there is no sign of reinforcements (Donovan apart) despite assurances by Kenwright and Elstone that funds are available and the "Arteta" money would not go to the banks.
With league places being worth almost a million a place and diminishing attendances estimated to be costing 5 million a year it is surely the time for further investment in the squad.
We appear to be making little progress and with Moyes statements like "we may have to look at the loan market" and "we don't have much if any money to spend on players" it is not what we want to hear.
Certain fans are predicting a doomsday scenario despite reassurances from Doddy that "all is well under Bill and Ben".
I am not quite at that point yet but am very concerned that having let Arteta, Yak and Beckford go and with the sale of Vaughan, Pienaar and Bellefield yielding around 25 million we do not appear to have anybody lined up.
Now I know some will come on here stating the window isn't shut yet but with our desperate needs you would have thought that we would have players lined up as soon as the window opens.
One other question I have which is particularly poignant given Jags' injury is what has happened to Joseph Yobo?
Are we still paying his wages or did we cancel his contract by mutual agreement?
No news on this from the Kremlin!
Jay Harris, Posted 06/01/2012 at 18:04:09
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Ian McDowell
2 Posted 06/01/2012 at 22:08:33
2 Posted 06/01/2012 at 22:08:33
The cavalry ain't coming unfortunately. Yobo is out on loan I believe but we can't recall him due to a loan fee being involved(if you loan a player out for a fee he can't be recalled is the rules). Why we loaned him out anyway is beyond me.
Alex Kociuba
3 Posted 06/01/2012 at 22:13:57
3 Posted 06/01/2012 at 22:13:57
Won't be Yobo playing in the African Nations?
Tom Bowers
4 Posted 06/01/2012 at 22:04:12
4 Posted 06/01/2012 at 22:04:12
The inertia that is the Goodsion administration is unbelivable.
What on earth are they waiting for?
Have they not been laying groundwork to spend the Arteta money In January or are they niaive to believe that a second coming of Donovan will improve this squad. No way!
Coleman can do the work of Donovan but you just know Osman won't be left out.
We don't want no-names from obscure leagues in Europe and South America nor do we want 16 year-old wonder kids who will never get a chance anyway.
Offensively we are a mess with nobody able to strike any fear into opposing defences these days except Howard!
Okay that's unfair but you get my point.
Moyes must regret letting Yaks and Becks go and no-one can argue they are goalscorers. Tomorrow Moyes will play some of the benchwarmers as the result is of lttle consequence. We have no chance of winning the cup with this motley crew.
What on earth are they waiting for?
Have they not been laying groundwork to spend the Arteta money In January or are they niaive to believe that a second coming of Donovan will improve this squad. No way!
Coleman can do the work of Donovan but you just know Osman won't be left out.
We don't want no-names from obscure leagues in Europe and South America nor do we want 16 year-old wonder kids who will never get a chance anyway.
Offensively we are a mess with nobody able to strike any fear into opposing defences these days except Howard!
Okay that's unfair but you get my point.
Moyes must regret letting Yaks and Becks go and no-one can argue they are goalscorers. Tomorrow Moyes will play some of the benchwarmers as the result is of lttle consequence. We have no chance of winning the cup with this motley crew.
Paul Ferry
5 Posted 06/01/2012 at 22:35:12
5 Posted 06/01/2012 at 22:35:12
The cavalry must be coming as Richard Dodd has said again and again that there will be incoming this window and that this is one of the leading reasons why we will climb up the table over the next five months or so and spray the ball around the park like creative wizards.
Dodd's words and assessments are always absolutely spot on and so all we need to do now is sit back and wait for the new additions who will reshape and remake Everton's season. Hold your breath everyone.
Dodd's words and assessments are always absolutely spot on and so all we need to do now is sit back and wait for the new additions who will reshape and remake Everton's season. Hold your breath everyone.
David Hallwood
6 Posted 06/01/2012 at 22:43:39
6 Posted 06/01/2012 at 22:43:39
The lack of transfer activity is as disturbing as it is expected.
Nick Entwistle
7 Posted 06/01/2012 at 23:33:28
7 Posted 06/01/2012 at 23:33:28
If you don't know Yobo is in Turkey then no wonder you ask where is the investment.
Our flow of credit is so limited that a £5m outlay is more neglectful to the club than Leeds Utd's entire outlay in the early 2000s.
You can strike lucky with a loan like Drenthe and if one comes in with equal quality then we have done well. If not it will be a punt on a kid.
Our flow of credit is so limited that a £5m outlay is more neglectful to the club than Leeds Utd's entire outlay in the early 2000s.
You can strike lucky with a loan like Drenthe and if one comes in with equal quality then we have done well. If not it will be a punt on a kid.
Gavin Ramejkis
8 Posted 06/01/2012 at 23:37:11
8 Posted 06/01/2012 at 23:37:11
The money the club made has long gone and come the end of the season they'll be even deeper in the shit as on average 3000 per home game have effectively told Billy Bullshitter where to shove it, those ticket sales will bite big time into the takings plus any shit those folk would have bought; mangy pies and luke warm piss masquarading as beer before the game and at half time.
Nick Entwistle
9 Posted 06/01/2012 at 23:48:43
9 Posted 06/01/2012 at 23:48:43
It is entirely possible Strac is a contingency long term solution to a striker if/ when the club need to sell everybody of value.
Is there a more rational a reason Anichebe was signed on contract for only £20k a week?
That's our front two this time next year that is.
When the banks call time this is the team...
Mucha
Hibbert Duffy Distin Neville
Coleman McFadden Osman Gueye
Strac Anichebe
That's relatively affordable!
Is there a more rational a reason Anichebe was signed on contract for only £20k a week?
That's our front two this time next year that is.
When the banks call time this is the team...
Mucha
Hibbert Duffy Distin Neville
Coleman McFadden Osman Gueye
Strac Anichebe
That's relatively affordable!
Richard Dodd
10 Posted 07/01/2012 at 00:16:03
10 Posted 07/01/2012 at 00:16:03
For the record,I have NEVER referred to our august Chairman and Manager as `Bill and Ben.`I remain confident that the pair will hold good on the promise of re-inforcements in this window although for cash flow reasons this may be nearer the end of the month than had originally been anticipated.
Keep the faith!
Keep the faith!
Gavin Ramejkis
11 Posted 07/01/2012 at 00:27:15
11 Posted 07/01/2012 at 00:27:15
Doddy, I wouldn't allocate August to Black Bill as every August he fucks the fans over by selling whoever is left and not replacing them and old Misery is more of a January onwards guy
Ste Traverse
12 Posted 07/01/2012 at 01:00:13
12 Posted 07/01/2012 at 01:00:13
No doubt a big name will be sold right at the end of the window with 'no time to spend it' the club will be saying and some 3rd rate player that no-one has heard of brought in on loan and the Moyes and Kenwright fans will have been appeased.
Seen it all before. Heard it all before.
Seen it all before. Heard it all before.
Andrew Presly
13 Posted 07/01/2012 at 01:00:18
13 Posted 07/01/2012 at 01:00:18
The cavalry are the loyalists who still go to the games. I've suffered QPR and Wolves at home and having travelled up for those I left the ground shouting myself horse for change. Very depressing.
My advice to all those who still support Moyes is.....go to the games! I was at the Cottage when we nicked it and that was an embarassment.
I hate that I love this club.
My advice to all those who still support Moyes is.....go to the games! I was at the Cottage when we nicked it and that was an embarassment.
I hate that I love this club.
Drew O'Neall
14 Posted 07/01/2012 at 01:08:08
14 Posted 07/01/2012 at 01:08:08
Few points... (like EFC, and getting fewer)
Nick at 9
Stracq was a punt in the same vein as Beckford or whoever we sign as a striker this January because going for broke is Moyes's only option with the cash at his disposal.
We are now officially a selling club, I've said it before and I'll say it again, whatever Moyes says.
We've run out of assets and his band of brothers have run out of time and legs.
Moyes has been hanging on to his squad knowing that he cannot replace them but he's held on too long and now they are worthless.
He must be praying someone desperate comes in for Rodwell (let it be City) in January.
If anyone's stupid enough to come in for any of Cahill, Neville or Saha, he will bite their arm off if he's got any sense because, by the end if the season, he won't be able to give 'em away.
Nick at 9
Stracq was a punt in the same vein as Beckford or whoever we sign as a striker this January because going for broke is Moyes's only option with the cash at his disposal.
We are now officially a selling club, I've said it before and I'll say it again, whatever Moyes says.
We've run out of assets and his band of brothers have run out of time and legs.
Moyes has been hanging on to his squad knowing that he cannot replace them but he's held on too long and now they are worthless.
He must be praying someone desperate comes in for Rodwell (let it be City) in January.
If anyone's stupid enough to come in for any of Cahill, Neville or Saha, he will bite their arm off if he's got any sense because, by the end if the season, he won't be able to give 'em away.
Charlie Percival
15 Posted 07/01/2012 at 01:20:37
15 Posted 07/01/2012 at 01:20:37
What are you guys on about??? You are so pessimistic!!!
When Jags, Osman, Fellainii, Rodwell, Coleman and Drenthe recover, they will be like new signings
When Jags, Osman, Fellainii, Rodwell, Coleman and Drenthe recover, they will be like new signings
Derek Thomas
16 Posted 07/01/2012 at 01:20:19
16 Posted 07/01/2012 at 01:20:19
Gavin; January is right, the month named after the Roman God Janus aka among other things as having two faces. Seems to fit our illustrious Leader to tee.
Peter Barry
17 Posted 07/01/2012 at 04:00:55
17 Posted 07/01/2012 at 04:00:55
Ste Traverse I think you have called it absolutely correct because Dour Davey and lying Kenwright have pulled this trick so many times before.
Eric Myles
18 Posted 07/01/2012 at 04:57:34
18 Posted 07/01/2012 at 04:57:34
Jay, you really didn't beleive Billy Liar when he said the Arteta money would not go to the bank now did you?
You would be as foolish as Doddy if you really did.
As for the last minute player out of the door (because he put in a transfer request of course) my money's on Baines.
You would be as foolish as Doddy if you really did.
As for the last minute player out of the door (because he put in a transfer request of course) my money's on Baines.
Alan Clarke
19 Posted 07/01/2012 at 07:38:47
19 Posted 07/01/2012 at 07:38:47
Whatever gives the impression that Kenwright was lying when he said the Arteta would be made available to Moyes in January?!!!!
Phil Rodgers
20 Posted 07/01/2012 at 07:44:27
20 Posted 07/01/2012 at 07:44:27
Basically he has lied. Again. We are being treated like idiots. Again. I will not give the club a penny until he has gone
Mark Tanton
21 Posted 07/01/2012 at 09:24:32
21 Posted 07/01/2012 at 09:24:32
I can't believe there are people out there who still actually expect anything good to happen in a transfer window. Mind you, there are many many people who still pay to watch the shite we're churning out so anything's possible I guess.
Richard Dodd
22 Posted 07/01/2012 at 09:31:36
22 Posted 07/01/2012 at 09:31:36
As our `greatest fan`,don`t you think BB knows that we are desperate for re-inforcements?Only if the bank puts a block on increasing the payroll will he not come good on his promise to make money available to Davey.
Bill wants us to be a winning team just as we do but sometimes you just don`t get what you wish for!
Bill wants us to be a winning team just as we do but sometimes you just don`t get what you wish for!
Ray Robinson
23 Posted 07/01/2012 at 09:37:12
23 Posted 07/01/2012 at 09:37:12
Doddy, Freudian slip there perhaps? You refer to Kenwright as BB not BK. Have you acknowledged his first name as "Bullshitter" then?
Richard Dodd
24 Posted 07/01/2012 at 09:41:17
24 Posted 07/01/2012 at 09:41:17
The Honourable Blue Bill,of course,Ray!
Stewart Littler
25 Posted 07/01/2012 at 10:14:06
25 Posted 07/01/2012 at 10:14:06
Alex #3 no as Nigeria never qualified
Jay - how do you reach £5m? I'm not arguing there'll be some serious money lost, but 5k x £30 x 19 is £2.85m so I think a slight overestimation there (unless you're calculating against 40,000 - which would be unfair as our average attendance last year was in the 35k region)
I predict 1 or 2 on loan at best, we prob won't have heard of them. Don't think we'll lose anyone this time, though am worried if someone comes in for Baines. Anyone believing there is money to spend is, IMO, overly optimistic.
Jay - how do you reach £5m? I'm not arguing there'll be some serious money lost, but 5k x £30 x 19 is £2.85m so I think a slight overestimation there (unless you're calculating against 40,000 - which would be unfair as our average attendance last year was in the 35k region)
I predict 1 or 2 on loan at best, we prob won't have heard of them. Don't think we'll lose anyone this time, though am worried if someone comes in for Baines. Anyone believing there is money to spend is, IMO, overly optimistic.
Gavin Ramejkis
26 Posted 07/01/2012 at 10:47:38
26 Posted 07/01/2012 at 10:47:38
That would be the same Billy Bullshitter who has presided over the demise of the club to the point of its now worthless despite over a decade of chances Doddy? That pariah will be forever remembered as the worst chairman in 133 years, question is will he damage it even further so its 133 years and pop no more club?
Phil Martin
27 Posted 07/01/2012 at 10:33:19
27 Posted 07/01/2012 at 10:33:19
Doesnt anyone else think we signed Beckford becuase he could be sold for a quick profit almost immediately? I think Moyes never intended on him being here long term.
As for Yak is attitude can be contemptible. Let's see his performance at B'burn when another club shows an interest in signing him.
We're fucked and the pied piper of the boys pen still has a significant proportion of the fanbase following him. Only relegation can save us from Bk now - as terrible it sounds.
As for Yak is attitude can be contemptible. Let's see his performance at B'burn when another club shows an interest in signing him.
We're fucked and the pied piper of the boys pen still has a significant proportion of the fanbase following him. Only relegation can save us from Bk now - as terrible it sounds.
Peter Barry
28 Posted 07/01/2012 at 11:17:33
28 Posted 07/01/2012 at 11:17:33
Phwooh!!! thats a relief I just read that Tamworths loan striker Danny Mills has gone back to Peterborough . I bet Dour Davey is ecstatic now we can get them hey Davey. Dont forget today theres NO EXCUSES.
Mick Fleming
29 Posted 07/01/2012 at 11:37:40
29 Posted 07/01/2012 at 11:37:40
Doddy, you are either so deluded or just plain taking the piss. For the life of me I can't understand the shite that you spew out on this site. Do you like being the pantomine villian? I applaud loyalty and do respect others opinions but you are so fucking boring in your defence of blatantly obvious incompetence.
Michael Brooks
30 Posted 07/01/2012 at 12:05:17
30 Posted 07/01/2012 at 12:05:17
Richard, can I just enquire to what you are taking? Or are you really Bullshit Bill, here to tell us all how great you are?
What rubbish, there?s no money and all old billy bullshit cares about is staying in charge at all costs of our once great club.
Richard, I?ll have a bet with you that the club will still be in the same dire state it is in now this time next year and that old bb and his gang of fools will still be spreading the same old lies. How?s a season ticket sound to you?
What rubbish, there?s no money and all old billy bullshit cares about is staying in charge at all costs of our once great club.
Richard, I?ll have a bet with you that the club will still be in the same dire state it is in now this time next year and that old bb and his gang of fools will still be spreading the same old lies. How?s a season ticket sound to you?
Steven Bennett
31 Posted 07/01/2012 at 12:25:03
31 Posted 07/01/2012 at 12:25:03
Time to copy paste and save doddy's comments so we can remind him of his idiocy at a later date. say ?, Feb 1st
Sam Hoare
32 Posted 07/01/2012 at 12:35:27
32 Posted 07/01/2012 at 12:35:27
A sad day when someone is vilified for being positive and trying to show some faith. If you disagree with Dodd then fair enough but I bet he smiles more than most of you lot.
As for gavram....the demise of this club? We are 11th in the premier league. Drama queen.
As for gavram....the demise of this club? We are 11th in the premier league. Drama queen.
Mick Fleming
33 Posted 07/01/2012 at 12:37:42
33 Posted 07/01/2012 at 12:37:42
He would still put a positive spin on it though Steven.
Nelly Verdonghan
34 Posted 07/01/2012 at 12:42:13
34 Posted 07/01/2012 at 12:42:13
Richard Dodd....YOU ARE A BUFFOON !!
Mick Fleming
35 Posted 07/01/2012 at 12:42:09
35 Posted 07/01/2012 at 12:42:09
Sam, there is a difference in being positive ie I am going the match and am sure we will hammer the mighty Tamworth, how's that? And I smiled when I wrote that, come on you blues and all that etc etc. there you go.
Don't confuse positivity with stupidity.
Don't confuse positivity with stupidity.
Sam Hoare
36 Posted 07/01/2012 at 12:51:33
36 Posted 07/01/2012 at 12:51:33
Mick people thought Galileo was stupid when he said the world was round. It's not fair to call conjecture stupid, as noone knows the future for sure. If we get relegated then the tag will be justified.
Colin Wainwright
37 Posted 07/01/2012 at 13:03:50
37 Posted 07/01/2012 at 13:03:50
11th in the premier league eh? We've never had it so good.
Eric Myles
38 Posted 07/01/2012 at 13:54:10
38 Posted 07/01/2012 at 13:54:10
Sam #32 "As for gavram....the demise of this club? We are 11th in the premier league. Drama queen."
A loss of £14 million in a year if we hadn't sold Bellefield. What have we now got left to sell besides players?
£18 million in player sales in the last year £0.00p in player purchases in the last 2+ years.
£22 million in assets 10 years ago, minus £35 million now.
No investment in the stadium or revenue generating infrastructure, in fact the exact opposite with selling off of the catering and merchandising.
Demise? What demise?
A loss of £14 million in a year if we hadn't sold Bellefield. What have we now got left to sell besides players?
£18 million in player sales in the last year £0.00p in player purchases in the last 2+ years.
£22 million in assets 10 years ago, minus £35 million now.
No investment in the stadium or revenue generating infrastructure, in fact the exact opposite with selling off of the catering and merchandising.
Demise? What demise?
Sam Hoare
39 Posted 07/01/2012 at 14:48:31
39 Posted 07/01/2012 at 14:48:31
Eric, fairplay. The financials are extremely worrying. They are not that different to alot of football clubs worldwide but worrying nonetheless. I'm not a fan of kenwright and would be more than happy to see the back of him but demise is too strong a word. We are still a solid mid table premiership club. Not ideal but hardly the end of the world.
Eric Myles
40 Posted 07/01/2012 at 17:16:08
40 Posted 07/01/2012 at 17:16:08
Position isn't everything Sam. With no new players coming in to replace our ageing squad players and no investment in income generating schemes the financial demise will accelerate until we are either relegated or in administration.
Sam Hoare
41 Posted 07/01/2012 at 17:37:34
41 Posted 07/01/2012 at 17:37:34
Eric, where we are headed is conjecture and hypothesis.
Maybe you're right maybe you're wrong.
In the here and now we are a midlevel premiership team with the sort of financial problems being experienced by alot of football teams. Perhaps we are on the road to demise (no-one can be sure) but we are not there yet whatever the pessimists/drama queens say.
Maybe you're right maybe you're wrong.
In the here and now we are a midlevel premiership team with the sort of financial problems being experienced by alot of football teams. Perhaps we are on the road to demise (no-one can be sure) but we are not there yet whatever the pessimists/drama queens say.
Kevin Day
42 Posted 07/01/2012 at 21:11:22
42 Posted 07/01/2012 at 21:11:22
I'm not so sure we are experiencing the same financial problems as most other clubs sam, whereas there is no real shame being a midtable premiership team, and I do believe we will finish around 8th, which is respectful given our plight , most other teams with a similiar financial plight to ours get to re-invest money from player sales. The money raised from player sales at Everton just "dissappears".
Joe McMahon
43 Posted 07/01/2012 at 21:44:14
43 Posted 07/01/2012 at 21:44:14
Errr, no one's being signed in January Guys, I'm baffled anyone thinks that there is. If the mighty negative one had any ambition, he would has resigned 2 years ago, but nah he's too cosy on his 3.5 million a year.
Kevin Day
44 Posted 07/01/2012 at 21:47:01
44 Posted 07/01/2012 at 21:47:01
We just live in hope Joe, but we are given hope in the form of a dangling carrot from our friend Mr Kenwright when he tells us "The Arteta money will be availaible in January" But i guess we should be used to his lies by now!
Phil McKeown
45 Posted 08/01/2012 at 10:38:25
45 Posted 08/01/2012 at 10:38:25
Dont take the bait lads , doddy is a wind up merchant and a potential red snake kopite in the toffeeweb grass , anyone who knows anything about the beautiful game and everton football club can see what is happening , not these media led armchair sheep
Phil McKeown
46 Posted 08/01/2012 at 10:38:25
46 Posted 08/01/2012 at 10:38:25
Dont take the bait lads , doddy is a wind up merchant and a potential red snake kopite in the toffeeweb grass , anyone who knows anything about the beautiful game and everton football club can see what is happening , not these media led armchair sheep
Karl Meighan
47 Posted 09/01/2012 at 11:13:01
47 Posted 09/01/2012 at 11:13:01
Doddy increasing the payroll? There giving Mcfadden and Anichebe 20 grand+ a week add to that Billy who is on big bucks going by his transfer fee, thats 3 good wages that could have been paid to real footballers who actually have ability rather than one with strength and the other 2 who offer nothing. We all know money is short so to bring Mcfadden back on decent wages is unforgiveable.
If the money could be used wisely then Rodwell and Felliani would be gone and more attack minded players brought in. Defensive midfielders can be replaced quite easily with all kinds of crap doing the job throughout the Premier League but players with skill who can beat a man play a killer pass or put the ball in the net are much harder to find. The combined fees that Rodwell and Felliani would bring in should be more than enough to bring in three attacking creative players.
If the money could be used wisely then Rodwell and Felliani would be gone and more attack minded players brought in. Defensive midfielders can be replaced quite easily with all kinds of crap doing the job throughout the Premier League but players with skill who can beat a man play a killer pass or put the ball in the net are much harder to find. The combined fees that Rodwell and Felliani would bring in should be more than enough to bring in three attacking creative players.
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1 Posted 06/01/2012 at 22:06:45
They are paying his wages and probably a small sum to loan him as well. We can´t recall him if the conditions are the same as his previous loan deal.
And anyway, Yobo has definetely burned his bridges this summer ,once and for all.