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Ten Years of David Moyes

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Since David Moyes dithered over what I have often described as his vastly over-inflated contract, I have bowed to no-one in my criticism of him. I have pointed out what I believe to be his faults on many, many occasions. Therefore I believe that, after a fine win, it Is time to say something good.

I once, if I remember correctly, described him as being devoid of integrity. Of all the silly posts I have made, and believe me I am thankful that the editor has made some of them fail to see the light of day, that is the one I regret most.

I liked Walter Smith and to this day feel he got a raw deal but his time was up and he gave us David Moyes. He saved us from relegation. He removed the label "crisis club Everton". He made it good to be an Evertonian again and gave us the best times we have had since the 1980s.

On MotD tonight, I saw his dad watching Everton. I read the tributes to him today, I have seen his reactions to them and I have looked at him in comparison to the likes of Dalglish and Redknapp. and I don't believe there is a better man in football. He has done us proud,

I think it would be churlish to add a BUT, so I won't.

Andy Crooks, Belfast     Posted 11/03/2012 at 01:12:08

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Nick Entwistle
734   Posted 11/03/2012 at 08:51:26

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There's hasn't been one moment I can recall when you can question his integrity. Even when Rooney's sorry aspersions in his book went all legal, he remained in dignified silence.
Brian Waring
738   Posted 11/03/2012 at 09:00:45

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The man has a lot of integrity, and he tells you how it is.

Phil McKeown
766   Posted 11/03/2012 at 10:15:28

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Yes I agree. I have ridiculed red shite managers especially benetiz lacking in this dept and moyes certainly conducts himself admirably as do his players which at times screws us on the pitch but we can hold our heads high
Dean Adams
830   Posted 11/03/2012 at 12:47:25

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Andy

Nice to see you giving him some credit. I would, having never met you (or know anything about you other than your love of EFC) imagine that you get as frustrated as I do with some of his, let's say more baffling substitutions or starting line-ups, when it feels like we should be going a bit gung-ho. I wish he would just go for the jugular every so often just to make me feel like we can do it. They say fortune favours the brave and I just want him to test that theory.

Tuesday would be fine. If we fail to win by attacking that lot, at least I will feel we did all we could!!
Norman Merrill
836   Posted 11/03/2012 at 13:07:45

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So we were under the kosh most of the second half,
It seems that 'Arry Redknapp does not accept that defending is a major part of a team's performance.

In some 30 games on Merseyside against the Blues & Reds, he has won two.
Richard Reeves
849   Posted 11/03/2012 at 13:50:51

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It was nice to see David Moyes's dad in the stand supporting his son and I only wish Moyes was the manager that a lot of pundits and fans believe he is but as a human being he's a decent chap.
Ernie Baywood
988   Posted 12/03/2012 at 10:15:45

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Agree with the above - he's a rarity in football and that's something we can take some pride in. And I won't add a "but" either.
Eugene Ruane
992   Posted 12/03/2012 at 10:42:55

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Andy, as I have stated on many other posts (usually re his tactics etc) as a feller and representative of Everton, he's hard to dislike.

He comes across as honest, loyal and hardworking and these are qualities that generally in life, we look for and admire in people.

He's also not an 'actor' (Pulis) or a clown (Holloway) and as one-eyed premier league manager's go, I can't think of anyone presently (maybe Hodgson) who is as fair/honest re decisions for and against.

I also like that he has the ability to be scary to 'the media'.

I genuinely can't remember the last time I heard an insightful question asked to a player or a manager, so am more than happy that they get 'the stare' when they ask daft obvious questions.

My (numerous) buts are available on other threads (no doubt making me a 'Moyes hater').
Jim Slade
993   Posted 12/03/2012 at 11:04:56

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Well said, Eugene, and yes, I agree, I love it when someone stirs him up and they get the cold stare. I wouldn't want to get one of those anytime.

Alas, Eugene, I think you are a Moyes hater and one of the biggest from reading your previous posts. The two managers you named there might just be on a certain list on Blue Bill's desk when the time comes that Moyes is replaced, whenever that may be. Who knows.
Sam Hoare
994   Posted 12/03/2012 at 11:07:13

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Andy, good to hear a self-confessed Moyes sceptic give some credit where it is due.

The debates will carry on about his managerial prowess and the wisdom of some of his selection and tactical decisions but I have always felt the man conducts himself with huge integrity and dignity and as such is a great ambassador for the club. He comes across as genuine, honest, hard working and true lover of the game. His loyalty to Kenwright could maybe be seen as good or an evil but, given my perception as to the character of Moyes, I'm prepared to write it off as a traditional if slightly misplaced loyalty to one's boss.
Tony McNulty
997   Posted 12/03/2012 at 11:32:36

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As the manager of a club with next to no money, he has done as well as many and better than most. I can?t offhand think of another manager who has done so consistently well with so few resources.

The unanswered question is whether he could consistently challenge the four or five ?Skynarks? if only he had more money to spend. I would love to see him given a chance. He would need £30 to £50 million as a start but of course this has been the situation for a number of years now and it does not look like it will be changing anytime soon. And so we go on wheel-spinning? unless of course the whole Premier League circus implodes and the rules of the game change.
Eugene Ruane
999   Posted 12/03/2012 at 11:46:59

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Stupid German computer!
Matt Traynor
000   Posted 12/03/2012 at 11:42:17

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That was his Dad? I was wondering why Rupert Murdoch was watching us...

He is indeed a man of integrity. I know he cops flack over his support for his Chairman, but honestly what would you expect him to do? I'd much rather he blew smoke up BK's arse than have our dirty linen aired in public.

Like many on here, I'd like to see him given a chance under new ownership/investment/whatever. If he had even 1/3 of the money Queen Kenny has squandered I think we'd see whether he really can take us to that mythical "next level".

It is possible for someone to stay around too long, but I don't think he's at that stage. BK et al were at that stage 7 years ago.
Peter Barry
001   Posted 12/03/2012 at 11:54:28

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Nobody questions Davey's integrity, loyalty and forthright opinions. But what is in question is his tactical ability and his seeming inability to put out a team to entertain and to "WIN" rather than one just to "NOT LOSE".
Andy Crooks
091   Posted 12/03/2012 at 18:07:41

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Exactly, Eugene. The point of my post was to demonstrate that one could have grave reservations about David Moyes and still respect him as a man and as a coach who has done a fine job for Everton.

I dislike the 'Moyes haters' label even more than the 'apologist' label. I doubt very much that any one has written of their hatred of him on this site. Perhaps some heat-of-the-moment rants, but no more. It is my view that our best chance of moving forward is with a new coach but this doesn't mean I hate David Moyes.

Jimmy and Peter have been brought to task on other threads for their views and I think that is unfortunate. As long as it doesn't get personal then robust debate is what this site is about.

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