Coleman grabs plaudits in draw with England

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Mirallas and Fellaini help Belgium top USA
Seamus Coleman embellished his credentials as one of the most exciting fullbacks in the Premier League with a man-of-the-match display for the Republic of Ireland against England at Wembley.

It was the Everton star's cross that set up Shane Long for the opening goal which was later erased by Frank Lampard's equaliser. The headlines in the domestic newspapers were dominated by talk of England's disappointing display but Coleman was the talk of the Irish camp.

Phil Jagielka played the full 90 minutes for the Three Lions and Leighton Baines came as a second-half substitute for Ashley Cole as Roy Hodgson shuffled his line-up.

Elsewhere, Everton's Belgian duo, Kevin Mirallas and Marouane Fellaini, both found net as the Red Devils overcame the United States 4-2 in Cleveland.

Mirallas chipped Tim Howard cleverly for the opener after just six minutes after the keeper had pushed the ball away from Romelu Lukaku, only for Geoff Cameron to level matters 20 minutes later.

Howard was off the field, replaced by Aston Villa's Brad Guzan, by the time Fellaini headed home from a deep cross to make it 3-1; Christian Benteke scored Belgium's other two goals while Clint Dempsey got a late consolation for the Americans.

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Kevin Hudson
1 Posted 30/05/2013 at 07:18:30
Excellent performance by Coleman, goal-saving tackles & blocks, and a menace to England going forward.

Full credit for the way he's grafted to get where he is in life.

David Nicholls
2 Posted 30/05/2013 at 07:50:49
I think Colemans development has been the single biggest plus this season. What an improvement from the error prone fullback he seemed to be back in the Autumn.

Full credit to Moyes and his coaching staff for polishing this rough diamond. I think a couple of years playing out of position in right midfield was crucial to his development.

He may even suit the wingback role in Roberto's 3-4-3 even more.

Well done Seamus!

David Nicholls
3 Posted 30/05/2013 at 07:57:26
Also, I'm loving the new England Kit but the numbers should always be red!
Jamie Barlow
4 Posted 30/05/2013 at 07:59:33
Great goal by Mirallas.

http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/1-0-kevin-miralles-belgium-v-usa/

Phil Sammon
5 Posted 30/05/2013 at 08:04:05
I've been thinking about RM's fondness for 3 at the back and how Coleman and Baines fit in as wing backs. For me, it's actually more defensive than we played under Moyes. Coleman and Baines already play as wing backs when we play 4 at the back - both of them operating down the full length of the pitch. The only difference in RM's system is an extra man in defence. Obviously that's a very simplistic analysis, but I'll be interested to see how it works in practice.
Derek Thomas
6 Posted 30/05/2013 at 08:19:56
David NOTHING should be r*d except for blood and maybe Ferrari's...ok post boxes and fire engines, but that's it

How did Coleman Vs Baines go when he came on?

Colin Glassar
7 Posted 30/05/2013 at 08:29:38
Seamus is coming on leaps and bounds. He reminded me of Cafu last night. I wonder if he's really a Brazilian in disguise.
Steve Pugh
8 Posted 30/05/2013 at 08:50:37
Seamus wasn't as effective when Baines came on. But hopefully he has ended Cashley's career cos he tore him apart. If it wasn't for Jags he might well of scored too.
John Gee
9 Posted 30/05/2013 at 08:52:25
Coleman's mustard! Great performance by the farmer. Fast becoming my favourite player.

RM played 3 at the back at Wigan because the players available more or less dictated his tactics. I think with a bit of time to get used to it, it would suit us. There wouldn't be so much pressure on Baines and Coleman to get back every time an attack breaks down.

Brent Stephens
10 Posted 30/05/2013 at 10:02:39
Coleman just excites me! His defending (positional sense and jockeying / tackling has improved no end this season. And going forward (which initially was his only plus) he looks even better than he was.
Oscar Huglin
11 Posted 30/05/2013 at 10:10:18
We need a Coleman song ASAP!
Damian Halligan
12 Posted 30/05/2013 at 10:23:35
Now he has added a defensive side to his game he looks like the real deal. Just hope he stays fit. The trouble with amazing international performances is that the big money clubs come along with their cheque books. I would rather he was shite last night to be honest.
James Stewart
13 Posted 30/05/2013 at 10:45:57
Top player. He reminds me of Lahm who is the best in the business at fullback so thats no mean feat
Norman Merrill
14 Posted 30/05/2013 at 11:34:52
Seamus, Will only get better, besides his attacking skill, his defending has improved,
With regular outings he will improve, no end.
And according to Giovanni Trapattoni, he has a great career ahead of him, so with Leighton on the other flank, the future looks bright.
I am sure whoever takes the managers job, will be well pleased.
Peter Cummings
15 Posted 30/05/2013 at 11:47:48
We now have two of he best attacking full backs in the game, Seamus has been a revelation this season and Bainesy now should be England's first choice after the' Cole man' was outplayed by Coleman. All our boys did well for their various teams even though they were only friendlies, so, all being well, we can look forward to another good season — unless we have to put up with relegation expert Martinez.
Brian Murphy
16 Posted 30/05/2013 at 12:00:20
Guys we are all talking about the usual suspects moving to United/Chelsea etc... like Baines, Fella, Jags. If I were Moyes I would be coming back and picking up Seamus. Rafael even though he has come on a bit last year is not the best IMHO. He could also pick him up I would think for about 8 Million quid. Hope i'm wrong mind
Roman Sidey
17 Posted 30/05/2013 at 12:25:24
Brian, while I agree that if he was sold that would be about the price, I just can't see BK having the bollocks to get much if he starts dealing with Moyes at United. Their love-in was so sickeningly strong that I honestly believe he'd sell players at a cut-rate to his old mate.
Chris Morris
18 Posted 30/05/2013 at 12:33:27
No he won't go.

No reason other than I don't want him to.

That's that sorted then

Chris Morris
19 Posted 30/05/2013 at 12:35:17
Also, I think if he did go then anything less than £18m is an insult. That's what Glen Johnson cost Liverpool and Seamus is better, younger and can now defend
John Jones
20 Posted 30/05/2013 at 12:27:28
Brian@886

I was going to put that dam! Would not take 8 million though how much have Chelski and the shite paid for there right backs?

I wish everyone expecting Martinez to sign there are 4 Managers in the Hat.

Coleman is fast becoming a clone of Baines which is good thing inheirates a very strong squad.

Even IF Baines/Fella/Jags/Coleman moved I would expected big money for them and with the extra TV monies this season would the New Manager Including Martinez A very nice Kitty also would they have to £8 million left over from the Fer Deal?

Question fror the Martinez Lovers : If he is made Manager and he gets a Kitty of say £25 Million (which is pulsable) would you be happy with him bring the likes of KONE/McCarthy(Top Player But do we need him) Alcarz* or even Ramis for Big Money ?? That is a worry as there are a lot of players out there who much better at the same price.

John Jones
21 Posted 30/05/2013 at 12:40:23
New Manager Inheirates a very good squad - Sorry had somebody talking at me whilst typing.
Eugene Ruane
22 Posted 30/05/2013 at 13:04:22
Also delighted with Seamus's progress and give him all the credit in the world.

Just couldn't see him making a defender a couple of years back and thought well, maybe he'll make an ok..ish wide-man.

Hands up, couldn't have been more wrong, he seems to have found the balance between attack and defence (unlike, as Roy Keane pointed out, Johnson).

He has obviously worked his nuts off, listened to and watched the right people and his efforts last season were terrific.

Seems a decent lad too.

As for the England strip, good to see the FA try to end all that WWll stuff and a nice gesture for England to play in the West Germany 1966 kit.

Ryan Sloan
23 Posted 30/05/2013 at 13:44:05
I always rated this lad. Yeah, he had to work on his defending, but the attacking style of his game was always there, which is needed. The dogs abuse he got after the Reading game was bang out of order: if it wasn't for woeful finishing, that game could've been won 3 times. I'm glad he has made the doubters look foolish, he's a £15M player for me, and must be one of the biggest bargains in modern football — £60 grand I think...
Gary Reeves
24 Posted 30/05/2013 at 13:47:03
An earlier post suggested that Moyes had "polished" Coleman up,and I'd just like to disagree, because it is a fundamental of Moyes's man-management style that was wrong.... Just hear me out!

I agree that some players can be "polished" but players like Coleman can't be coached to a huge extent. He's learned his trade on the street, in his hometown estate – and he is what he is, mistakes and all. He creates a lot of trouble going forward, but he WILL cost us the odd goal.

Moyes's problem was his one-on-one psychology,and for me he undermined Seamus's confidence for a while,by complicating it. Different players can need supporting, bollocking, goading, indulging, or yes indeed coaching, but Moyes would often get it wrong.

Dara Grimes
25 Posted 30/05/2013 at 14:14:45
Seamus deserves his own song. Here's my best effort:

Seamus oh oh
Seamus oh oh oh oh
He comes from Donegal
And cost us sweet fuck all
Oh Seamus oh oh etc etc

Ryan Sloan
26 Posted 30/05/2013 at 14:37:04
Anyone who thinks we could get relegated with these players in the team needs to give their heads a shake!
Chris Jones [Burton]
27 Posted 30/05/2013 at 14:45:57
Coleman is Ireland's Man of the Match, Mirallas and Fellaini score against a side England often struggle against and Jags and Baines play for England. A somewhat better legacy Moyes leaves behind than he inherited. So long Davey, it was good to have you.
Al Reddish
28 Posted 30/05/2013 at 16:49:22
Gary, why would Coleman credit Moyes for his development then. Even though he has gone, people still have to have a dig at him on threads unrelated to the subject.
Iain Johnston
29 Posted 30/05/2013 at 16:55:21
I haven't been this excited about our fullback pairing since PsychoPat and Gary Stevens. You sense something will happen when they're on the ball.

Seamus's understanding with Mirallas is excellent. I read Stones has a similar attitude and Bidewell got forward a lot at Brentford. Long term I think these positions are sorted. With PN gone Coleman has moved to the front selection wise and I think this will give him even more confidence.

Well chuffed for the lad.

Eugene Ruane
30 Posted 30/05/2013 at 16:53:06
I know it's a long shot, but has anyone considered the modest Ryan Sloane for the vacant manager's job?

He seems to be able to look at raw players who are making loads of mistakes and think..

'He will, 100%, without ANY doubt come good, just you watch, you'll all look foolish".

That is a BIG talent in my book.

Chris Jones All Reason Gone For A {Burton} (964) - Just out of interest, if someone posted 'The History of The Envelope', how long would it take you to turn it into an 'I heart Davey' thread?

(nb: doubt he's reading TW so suggest a letter to Utd telling him 'So long Davey, it was good to have you')

Brent Stephens
31 Posted 30/05/2013 at 17:22:13
Gary #936 "He's learned his trade on the street, in his hometown estate". I thought Seamus was a Gaelic football player or some such and didn't start playing soccer till late on. On the street??
Eugene Ruane
32 Posted 30/05/2013 at 19:08:36
Brent (065) - Imagine how many jumpers it would take to make THOSE goalposts!
Phil Sammon
33 Posted 30/05/2013 at 19:12:36
You can actually fashion a whole pitch including goal posts with just one of Neville Southall's jumpers.
Wayne Smyth
34 Posted 30/05/2013 at 18:51:39
Al, its not "having a dig", its offering a different opinion to the one put forward by another poster. Isn't that what discussion forums are about? Or did I accidentally log into CommieWeb by accident?

I happen to think that playing Coleman at right wing(or left back for that matter) probably didn't do him a vast amount of good. I also think that had Hibbert stayed fit and with Mirallas in the squad, Coleman would have got about the same playing time as Oviedo this season and would not have got his international call up or any plaudits he richly deserves.

Its not rocket science. You play players out of position from what they've been playing for years and they often don't do so well. They make mistakes, and seem uncertain about what they need to do. Play them where they are naturally used to playing and they will perform much better and get the confidence. If you don't give players any playing time they probably wont improve much at all.

Someone like coleman, being a late developer and being thrust into the EPL probably spent a lot of time wondering if he was good enough. I recall some of Moyes comments about him being quite derogatory and mentioning his £60k transfer fee in relation to some of his performances when he'd not played well. Confidence is even more important to a player like Coleman than anyone whose been brought through an academy of a big club.

Basically Coleman's performance have come on leaps and bounds precisely coinciding with him switching to RB and getting a sustained run in the team. Importantly he seems to have a fantastic attitude and seems to make 100% from the talent that he does have. For me, he'd be one of the first names on our team sheet.

In short, full credit to Moyes for signing him for such a pittance, but I'm not convinced he's been handled as good as he should have been; if anything he's probably been held back a tad.

Its very similar to the Barkley situation for me. A kid with undoubted potential, but the manager did not have the long-term vision to give him the playing time required to develop in a natural role. Hence why we spent a lot of this season and last arguing whether Barkley is good enough or not; the lad just hasn't been given the time and experience to improve.

Chris Jones [Burton]
35 Posted 30/05/2013 at 19:30:00
Eugene 057

Regarding your witticism (sic) on my user name, if it's of interest I specify my location [Burton] because there are at least two other people called Chris Jones who post on this site. I'd hate for them to be on the receiving end of a snide comment because they'd been mistaken for little 'ol me.

For the record I made the posting at #946 partly in response to someone using this thread as an opportunity to have a pop at our outgoing manager (e.g. #936). I was rather impressed that Everton supplied a number of players that figured in last night's international fixture. Indeed, I'd have to go back to Kendal Mk1 to remember so many of our players making notable contributions to such a match. Anyway, perhaps now you'll see (probably not), my post was reactive, not proactive as you mistakenly presume. I will, however, grant you that several other posters had praised Moyes, but then perhaps your attention span isn’t sufficient to recall the earlier comments?
So, however, if yourself or one of the admins were to supply me with your contact details, I’d be happy to afford you the opportunity to vet any future posting I was minded to make - so as not to risk offending you when going public with my sincerely held views.

Just out of interest, if someone posted a piece about 'Dale Carnegie', how long would it be before you made a 'contribution' to the discussion that might be held up as a negative exemplar of to support Mr Carnegie's arguments?

Eugene Ruane
36 Posted 30/05/2013 at 20:20:40
Chris Jones [the sensitive one] (168) - "Just out of interest, if someone posted a piece about 'Dale Carnegie', how long would it be before you made a 'contribution' to the discussion that might be held up as a negative exemplar of to support Mr Carnegie's arguments?

Well to satisfy your 'interest', probably about four minutes as I can find plenty of negative things to say about the work of a man who sold millions of books featuring nothing but David Brentisms and two-bob home-spun 'philosophy'

(nb: seriously - if I wanted to read that kind of cobbled together, lazy-of thought nonsense, I'd buy myself a bible)

Richard Reeves
38 Posted 30/05/2013 at 19:40:36
Coleman's got to be one of the biggest transfer bargains ever, surely?How much is he worth now? Not that I would sell him. He's the kind of right back I like, intelligent in his play, can cross the ball very well, good at linking up with other players and is someone who's attack-minded but is NOW well aware of his defensive duties and will bust a gut to get forward and back.

Going back to the beginning of the season when we had Beckford in the team, I said that Coleman was my first choice for right back. I thought he needed more experience to develop but, although he was making some mistakes in tackling and being caught out of possession, I still preferred him to Hibbert or Neville.

More importantly, I did think he had massive potential and would become a very good right back. Those mistakes sometimes cost us a goal but my argument at the time was that we played so deep, getting everyone behind the ball, that the risk of being caught out of position or being skinned shouldn't necessarily cost us a goal as there was still a human brick wall to get past for the opposition.

I remember other people also being at fault for some of those goals but the blame lay squarely on Coleman's shoulders. With that defensive set-up that Moyes always opts for and the threat of Coleman going forward as a right back, the positives outweighed the negatives in my mind. I still think Moyes got it wrong with him when he left him out of the team after playing well at times as I also think he needed more confidence... but the same applied to Barkley and Duffy.

Varun Rajwade
39 Posted 31/05/2013 at 06:46:29
Coleman song to the tune of "I'm forever blowing bubbles"

Seamus's forever going forward,
leaving everyone behind,
he likes to run,
really really run,
and then go and set the goal,
Seamus Seamus Coleman,
He cost bugger all,
Seamus's forever going forward,
leaving everyone behind!!

Dave White
41 Posted 31/05/2013 at 08:59:43
Pleasantly surprised by Coleman's development, for some time he looked like a one trick 'head down and run' pony but he's clearly worked hard to add the nouse to get past players to his armoury. His final ball has also improved massively.

As my friends have asked my thoughts on Martinez I think his focus on attack minded play may really bring something to a team that has had a defensively minded manager for so long. I genuinely believe our first choice back 5 is as good as any in the league and needs little improvement.

Now if Roberto can just help Jelly find his scoring boots everything will be gravy!

Gary Reeves
46 Posted 31/05/2013 at 12:58:31
Yeah Brent #065. I think you'll find that Seamus has stated that he learned to play on his childhood estate (something along the lines of his gang versus their rivals). I know because I remember reading a piece on it.

This makes my point totally relevant (about the type of player he is),and your question mark misplaced! Granted, it might have been an Avenue, Place or Grove, rather than a Street, but I'm sure everyone else got the point.

Rooney = Street; Rodwell = Academy... There is a difference, Brent, although it's not a hard and fast rule. Perhaps you don't understand.

Harold Matthews
47 Posted 31/05/2013 at 15:17:16
Coleman is a real golden nugget. What a prospect.

When will Roy Hodgson utilise Baines in the proper way? Apart from the odd long ball no-one inter-passes with him in the manner of Pienaar and Fellaini. It's always the same when he plays for England and the blame can only lie with the coach who will have watched Everton many times. Thank God he isn't being interviewed by BK.

Barry Lambert
48 Posted 31/05/2013 at 20:39:01
Why is it that every time one of our boys has a good game and receives the plaudits from the most respected members of the media you all start speculating on who's going to come in for them? For god's sake take a chill pill. Just be proud and enjoy it; stop being so bloody paranoid!
Ian Bennett
49 Posted 01/06/2013 at 17:20:05
I really like him, he gives us a great attacking threat on either side of the pitch with Baines. With him, Mirallas, Baines, Jags, I think we have a basis of a top 4 side.

The key is clearly can we get another top 3-4 players if Fellaini and Heitinga go. And can Jelavic recapture his form.

Okay here goes:-

New keeper
Coleman
Baines
Jags
Lescott type

Box to box type
Gibson
Another mobile midfielder

Mcmanaman type
Lukaku type
Mirallas


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