Steven Naismith will undergo a late assessment on his hamstring
With two contrasting away fixtures behind them to close out November, Everton return to Goodison Park for their third game in six days as a busy December programme begins with the visit of Hull City and Nikica Jelavic's return to his old stomping ground.
Marching on in the Europe League, Roberto Martinez's side won handsomely in Wolfsburg last Thursday to book their passage to the next phase of that competition but followed it up with a 2-1 defeat at Tottenham on Sunday, a result symptomatic of the Blues' stop-start Premier League campaign this season.
Much credence is lent to the notion of the European hangover and a cursory glance at a scoreline which favoured the team that played at home in the Europa League and not the one that travelled to Germany would seem to support it. But Everton's performance at White Hart Lane seemed to owe less to fatigue and more to a paucity of invention and tempo — even when they were in the ascendancy, it was a pedestrian display until the final 10 minutes when looming defeat demanded some belated urgency that was too little, too late.
The upshot of giving up the platform established by Kevin Mirallas' beautiful 15th-minute strike was that the Toffees failed to gain ground on the pack of clubs chasing leaders Chelsea for a place in the Champions League; indeed, the Blues fell further behind after Tuesday evening's results which dropped them into the bottom half of the table.
All of which makes a response against a struggling Hull team — the Humbersiders fell into the bottom three thanks to Burnley's draw against Newcastle — an absolute must lest the uphill climb facing Martinez morph into something more mountainous by the end of the year. Since earning creditable draws at Arsenal and Liverpool in October, Steve Bruce's men lost all four of their matches last month, scoring just once in the process. They looked on course for victory against Spurs 10 days ago until Gaston Ramirez's sending off completely shifted the momentum of the game and they followed that defeat with a 3-0 drubbing at Old Trafford so will likely travel to Merseyside with morale at a low ebb.
They should be no match for an Everton team that, James McCarthy, Steven Naismith, Darron Gibson, Antolin Alcaraz and John Stones aside, is gradually getting some of its walking wounded back to provide more competition for places. The latter two are out until the end of the month at the earliest while McCarthy will be given more time to sort out his hamstring issue and Naismith has been given an outside chance of making the squad for this one. Martinez told the media on Tuesday that he will wait until the last second before making a decision on the Scot whose movement and running was missed on Sunday.
Should he miss out, the manager at least has options in that part of the field, with Ross Barkley, Aiden McGeady and Samuel Eto'o all vying for spots and Mirallas able to be pushed into a forward role if need be, particularly if Steven Pienaar is fit to line up on the left flank.
It's in central midfield where he may have pause for deliberation. Gareth Barry played at White Hart Lane but looked rusty after his layoff with an ankle injury and playing against the Tigers would put him at risk of picking up the fifth booking that would rule him out of the visit to Manchester City on Saturday. Martinez could conceivably deploy Leon Osman, who filled in well in the defensive midfield against West Ham, alongside Muhamed Besic and rest Barry or get very creative and move Leighton Baines inside now that Bryan Oviedo appears to be fit again and Luke Garbutt showed his capabilities against Wolfsburg.
Everton will start the evening some eight points off the coveted fourth spot in the Premier League — closer to the relegation zone than Europe — but there are points on offer that the Blues should claim easily in this and the other forthcoming home games against QPR and Stoke. There is little margin for the kind of errors they committed against Crystal Palace and Swansea if they are serious about pushing for the top four or five in the League.
Referee: Robert Madley
Kick off: 7:45pm
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1 Posted 03/12/2014 at 00:28:54
I would go:
Howard (really donÂt want to pick him but no-one else)
Coleman Jagielka Browning Baines
Mirallas Barkley Pienaar
2 Posted 03/12/2014 at 00:48:01
3 Posted 03/12/2014 at 01:02:26
4 Posted 03/12/2014 at 01:12:09
The crowd will have a big impact on the game, so itÂs important that the team get off to a good start and keep the fans happy. No prediction from me itÂs any oneÂs guess which team shows up for the fight.
5 Posted 03/12/2014 at 01:31:40
I agree, mind.
6 Posted 03/12/2014 at 01:34:50
Phil, I want what youÂre smoking. Shit must cost a fortune...
7 Posted 03/12/2014 at 01:39:27
8 Posted 03/12/2014 at 03:19:24
9 Posted 03/12/2014 at 03:30:05
Their big lads will be dangerous at set-pieces and weÂll need to be at our best to win.
10 Posted 03/12/2014 at 04:17:06
Jimmy Martin; Coleman, Jagielka, Distin (IÂd rather have Ty), Baines (leaning towards Garbutt with each passing week); Besic (and it will be) Barry (could/ought to be Osman); Mirallas, Pienaar (Bryan would be better if ready) Barkley (IN THE MIDDLE), and Lukaku, the best 21-year-old centre-forward in the Premier lLeague.
Subs: Robles, Garbutt, Browning, Osman, Oviedo? EtoÂo, Kone?
Hull bought well in the window and their fans have all the right in the world to be disappointed. They will fire one day soon. But not tomorrow.
11 Posted 03/12/2014 at 04:06:40
So far, Roberto has not found an answer to opponents that only make a token effort in the midfield to concentrate on packing their defence. Jags and Co and their uncontested tecka deep in our own half would bring a smile to BruceÂs ugly mug. It certainly does nothing for any attacking ideas we may have.
As proven so often in previous games the biggest danger to our own goal is when our attack battering itself senseless against a brick wall becomes more and more desperate and forgets defensive duties.
That is when opponents play long balls into wide open spaces in our defensive zones. Pushing too many players forward may appear great yet it is also our biggest weakness.
12 Posted 03/12/2014 at 06:01:58
Both of them, it could be argued, are very large part of the engine that makes us go, but it could also be said, that when they are unable to play at 100%, they bring the level of play of the entire team down.
Maybe a few days rest will see them ready to go... maybe not.
13 Posted 03/12/2014 at 07:26:12
Browning or Hibbert
McGeady or Pienaar
14 Posted 03/12/2014 at 07:21:41
ItÂs probably the first time since Moyes left, that IÂm not really that bothered about going the match. Of course, I will be there and hope for a good performance. Results matter most, but itÂs also an entertainment business.
Nothing wrong with possession football, I love it, but we just donÂt seem to be a team with much purpose lately. LetÂs go for goals Roberto, thereÂs enough talent in the squad to do so!
15 Posted 03/12/2014 at 08:12:09
We really have to start winning our home matches, the next three starting tonight are Hull, QPR and Stoke, we must win all of these because away from home we have struggled for wins, we have Man City away Saturday and Southampton away before Christmas.
Play your strongest team, Roberto, and put a rocket up Baines, Coleman and Barkley and let them know their places are NOT guaranteed just by name.
We could have made a statement on Sunday at Spurs by keeping Hibbert and Garbutt as fullbacks but we caved in to go back to the big names despite them being below par this season.
17 Posted 03/12/2014 at 08:13:02
So the question is: Which Everton will turn up? Our Jekyll-and-Hyde season should see us win handsomely; however, I am fast losing confidence with this Everton side and also in RMÂs selections and decisions during games .
Martinez has done well to avoid criticism from the large majority of the fans and from the national press but other teams have sussed Everton out and he doesnÂt seem to have a Plan B and his motivation skills seem none existent. His smooth talking post-match comments are just not washing anymore Â– I would have more respect if he said: "I got the selection wrong today and I accept the blame" Â– but we continually get Mr positive and how unlucky we were.
Very frustrating season so far; hopefully if we can get some players back from injury, itÂs not too late to aim for a top four finish but we desperately need consistency and it can start with a good win against Hull tonight!
18 Posted 03/12/2014 at 08:56:47
19 Posted 03/12/2014 at 09:25:48
Strangely I often feel that players like McAleny play better against better opposition and raise their game. Tonight, a Lukaku hat-trick would be the best medicine for Spurs and I feel we need something like that to reignite us.
Coleman Jagielka Browning Baines
Mirallas Barkley McGeady
Baines and Coleman need to show up tonight.
Anyone up for a beer pre-match!!!!
20 Posted 03/12/2014 at 09:26:32
We must start getting the ball in front of Lukaku. He is great when running towards goal with the ball, like against West Ham, Wolfsburg and Palace, but not very good at all when he is getting it fed to him when he comes back towards the half-way line, like in most of the other games this season.
If fit enough, I would like to see Pienaar start. I know he has been disappointing when seen this season but he gives us a link between midfield and attack that we so often lack, like at Spurs last Sunday.
21 Posted 03/12/2014 at 10:01:50
22 Posted 03/12/2014 at 10:16:13
1. Only one defensive midfielder;
2. Mirallas as a second striker alongside Lukaku.
Anyhow, Everton is very strong, it looks like atmosphere in the team is great, we only need to be more direct going forward.
23 Posted 03/12/2014 at 10:45:43
I really liked the ladÂs attitude when he was here and memories of thinking we had a potentially devastating striker in those early months are always fondly looked back on.
24 Posted 03/12/2014 at 10:46:30
Coleman Jagielka Distin Baines
Osman Barkley Mirallas
Subs: EtoÂo, Oviedo, Kone, Browning, McGeady, Robles
We need OssieÂs ability to unlock the door Â– his lack of legs shouldnÂt be too much of an issue against Hull!
25 Posted 03/12/2014 at 10:38:22
26 Posted 03/12/2014 at 10:33:14
Of course anyone is entitled to hold a view and long may it be so. But it is all a matter of opinion and ÂbestÂ is a subjective description which varies according to whether one is talking of skill, fitness, drive, dedication et al.
The purpose of a league table is to determine which club can show the Âbest Âof all these qualities once every team has played the others home and away. It may not be perfect in that no allowance can be made for injuries, referees, and old-fashioned bad luck. But, like democracy, itÂs the best system we can come up with.
After a third of the season, this squad demonstrates that it is Âabout averageÂ if one accepts the game is all about goals rather than the managerÂs revisionist concept of Âpossession statsÂ. Potentiality may indicate it will finish higher by the close but, like so much in life, thatÂs just guesswork.
So, in truth, it will only be Âbest for 25 yearsÂ if it finishes higher than MoyesÂs 4th Â– then, and only then, will I agree it is the third ÂbestÂ in the Premier League!
27 Posted 03/12/2014 at 11:08:15
28 Posted 03/12/2014 at 11:45:21
So our third best squad in the last 25 years made absolute cunts of us all Phil, one night in Bucharest?
29 Posted 03/12/2014 at 11:24:20
30 Posted 03/12/2014 at 11:37:52
But now, we donÂt seem to want to go at teams; our passing has become slow which just about every fan comments on, and we donÂt seem to want to play the ball quickly out of defence. What has changed? Why are we now so cautious and still being opened up at the back.
So please, RM, we have some very good players Â– let them show Hull tonight just how good... let them off their cautious lease and play some adventurous football.
31 Posted 03/12/2014 at 12:08:33
One thing we must do is not start EtoÂo and Barkley. With a tough game against Man City to follow, IÂd start with Ross and bring on Sam around the hour mark, depending on how itÂs going.
Loads of games this month so we need to use the squad wisely.
32 Posted 03/12/2014 at 12:27:11
It also means that Barry/McCarthy no longer need to drop back so deep to accept the pass.
We need to play with no fear Â– we ARE better than them.
33 Posted 03/12/2014 at 12:22:02
If the system is suitably fluid enough to allow players to pop up in different areas, it could have more goals in it and go some way to keeping the opponents guessing. This tactic could be the embryo of the illusive Plan B.
Assault on Europe. Pepper on the Premier League. LetÂs hope we grind some chunks out with a win tonight. (I wouldnÂt say No to Osman in the middle either.)
34 Posted 03/12/2014 at 12:16:12
Yes, with current form, Ossie should start. I havenÂt seen him play so well for a long time.
BarryÂs return is also crucial and after SundayÂs game he should be sharper for today.
Hull, like Leicester, are the bottom feeders and ordinarily would be easy like the Foxes were yesterday for RS. However, all games are different and EvertonÂs home form hasnÂt been great.
Hull will park the bus I fear so itÂs crucial to score early and, if not, for them to be patient and not fall asleep when Hull occasionally break.
35 Posted 03/12/2014 at 12:46:35
36 Posted 03/12/2014 at 12:49:36
It is easy to see what Martinez is trying to achieve Â– itÂs just a fact that most of the players we have donÂt have the ability to utilise the gameplan in the correct manner. There is always a half-second too long on the ball or an extra touch and we break down.
I donÂt think it is our managerÂs intention to have his players shuffle the ball sideways. As I say, itÂs the lack of ability to get the job done. In my humble opinion, of course.
37 Posted 03/12/2014 at 13:02:39
IÂm going for a 1-1 draw...
38 Posted 03/12/2014 at 13:03:48
This season, though, Europa League results apart, we seem to be drifting and RobertoÂs methods, much praised last year, are coming in for increasing criticism.
Therefore, for me, not only is tonight a must-win game, but SaturdayÂs visit to Manchester needs a similar result to that attained at Old Trafford 12 months ago to reinforce that this is an Everton team who can go to any ground with the belief that they can win.
39 Posted 03/12/2014 at 13:12:11
MirallasÂs preferred position has always been on the left side itÂs where he plays for Belgium and he has previously stated he prefers to play on the left wing. I suspect the only reason heÂs played on the right for so long was the good relationship between Pienaar and Baines, but itÂs plain to see Mirallas is much more of a threat cutting inside on his right foot; he started the season playing there and playing well.
40 Posted 03/12/2014 at 13:59:24
I think I am right in saying we finished with 11 points more than Moyes side that finished 4th, with a negative goal difference, in a freak year.
41 Posted 03/12/2014 at 14:08:22
It would be a good idea if his critics posted their starting 11 before kick-off tonight.
42 Posted 03/12/2014 at 14:16:23
As far as team selection against Hull, the playing of Lukaku and EtoÂo together has not worked out and I do not think Naismith should be risked and end up the same as McCarthy. The team that I think should play tonight is the same back 5 as Sunday with Besic, Barkley & Barry as the three busy bees in midfield and have Osman playing behind Lukaku and Mirallas.
All the the Everton team need is to quicken up their passing and attack before the opposition get everyone behind the ball. (Easier said than done!)
My reason for Barkley to be in midfield is simply that at some time the manager has got to define what BarkleyÂs best position is and just leave him there instead of moving him around. To me with his pace size and strength, he is ideal to tackle and bring the ball forward and also can score.
43 Posted 03/12/2014 at 14:37:53
Martinez brought Alcaraz with him to show them how to do it but he, too, looks well past his best so hasnÂt been much help.
I mustnÂt mention the last club he inflicted the philosophy on but, being well past its sell-by date, it was sussed by other managers with most regrettable consequences.
LetÂs hope that old dogs can learn new tricks... and quickly!
44 Posted 03/12/2014 at 14:58:52
When I saw the team on Sunday, I was reasonably happy. However, after 10 minutes it seemed quite clear that neither EtoÂo or Barry were even close to being fit. So I went from being quite happy to very unhappy. Not because IÂm fickle, but because I now had a better idea of the adequacy of the team weÂd put out.
45 Posted 03/12/2014 at 15:05:11
You assume wrongly.
My post was aimed at people who,with the benefit of hindsight, criticise the managerÂs team selection.
Hopefully they will let us know their team selection before kick-off.
46 Posted 03/12/2014 at 15:10:03
47 Posted 03/12/2014 at 15:16:05
I do have to agree with the style RM is persisting with is causing us problems both at the back giving away possession which leads to goals but also itÂs not playing to our strengths going forward. Surely he knows himself Lukaku needs early balls to run onto and we have loads of good ball players now fit to hit him such passes. I am glad to see him and Mirallas playing well off each other and hopefully Kevin can stay fit over Christmas but I fear not.
Barkley to me is still trying to do too much and needs to beat a man, pass and go for the return rather than beat four men.
We are all guilty of this but when you look at him and hear him talk, it really is hard to believe Luka is 21. He does annoy me a lot with his lack of work ethic but then v Wolfsburg he was awesome and worked really hard.
2-0 tonight with McGeady getting one.
48 Posted 03/12/2014 at 15:19:28
Stop playing players because they did well for you at the start of the season and pick our best team. Two holding, two wingers, and Ross behind Rom. I know injuries have limited the luxury of doing this most times throughout this season so far. But everyone is back now, so play the balanced side that got results last year.
I can see why fans love him because of his work rate, but Naismith in there is not our best option, Ross is!
Also, I donÂt know what Stevie P has done in the last few weeks, but he seams to be getting less and less playing time? He is great on the ball and is one of the few who can actually create something, plus I think Baines is missing him. This would put Super Kev back on the right and would allow Coleman to start to flourish again.
49 Posted 03/12/2014 at 15:25:56
50 Posted 03/12/2014 at 15:25:35
In October, we only had one home league game which we won 3-0 to Villa.
In November, we had two home league games: Drew 0-0 with Swansea and won 2-1 v West Ham.
I think people need to calm down again and enjoy watching us play football and score loads of goals. We are joint 3rd top scorers so far.
51 Posted 03/12/2014 at 15:04:55
52 Posted 03/12/2014 at 15:15:14
People arguing that Ossie would have made a difference or Garbutt or that Barkley was played in the wrong position maybe making valid points but none would have ensured 3 points for us at the Lane. We were lethargic all over and not just in moving the ball as some have pointed out but had no energy or spark or bite.
Our only chance of winning that game was to hang on to the lead until half-time and get their crowd on their back but HowardÂs gift change all that and it was game over from then.
I feel we will get a reaction tonight and he will play a similar team and let them make amends for Sunday as I couldnÂt name one player that played well. I think we will win well tonight. COYB
53 Posted 03/12/2014 at 15:28:06
By the way, Martinez lad, fucking please, please, please donÂt play Ross out wide because it never worked first time and hasnÂt worked since.
54 Posted 03/12/2014 at 15:19:28
IÂm concerned with the amount of first teamers not fully fit / carrying injuries. They need resting, especially with Man City looming. We cannot afford to worsen existing problems. This is particularly important as mentioned by others, we have no strength in depth.
Our U21s have no-one significant RM can call upon despite his pre-season promise of several being given opportunities. How can he, when clearly (vs Sunderland U21s) most choked?
Coupled with RMÂs pre-season comments re Luke Garbutt and Tyias Browning ("I consider these two first-team players even though they havenÂt played that much.") appear to have been more hopefully than realistic.
Hull have lost all four games in November and havenÂt won on the road since their opening day fixture at QPR. LetÂs hope they donÂt fix that jinx tonight... COYB
55 Posted 03/12/2014 at 15:42:09
I havenÂt an issue with RMÂs style of possession football as long as we step it up a bit. This style of play with pace would have a lot of teams in trouble. With the way the results went last night, this is a must 3 points. COYB
56 Posted 03/12/2014 at 15:52:00
The point is, we donÂt have the same information as the manager before the game. I would have picked Barry for the game on Sunday if he was fully fit, but he wasnÂt. If I put my team up here before the game tonight he would be in it, but if after 5 minutes he looked slower than my 89-year-old nan, like he did at the Lane then I would have changed my mind.
The same thing could be said about dozens of players this season. I have been very worried by the fact players appear to be rushed back into the side way before they are ready.
58 Posted 03/12/2014 at 15:56:43
As many have intimated, the lethargy we demonstrated after capitulating from a brilliant one-goal early lead on Sunday, with what was arguably one of the strongest attacking line-ups on paper, was due in part to Martinez selecting unfit players.
Yes, some people like to pick the team, and many like to retrospectively tear apart the selection Â– both activities, if you analyze them for one second, have no merit or purpose in affecting the outcome or influencing the man who really matters Â– the manager. But neither are going to stop any time soon.
59 Posted 03/12/2014 at 16:12:13
Naismith is the most likely to play a wideman into a position where he can cross the ball, and also the most likely to get on the end of and convert a ball into the box.
If you want to exploit the wide areas, Naisy in the hole is a must... in my opinion anyway.
60 Posted 03/12/2014 at 16:20:20
IÂm certainly not writing the boy off after one poor showing for the U21s on Monday, but surely Distin is a better option at present. Browning look shaky other night and got away with what looked like a stone-wall penalty against him.
61 Posted 03/12/2014 at 16:15:32
This is where Roberto fails in his system, he is not adaptable and we will pass it sideways and back all night whilst they frustrate the life out of us and we frustrate the life out of the fans.
Not looking forward to this one bit, the only time we ever look effective going forward is when teams come to play an open game.
Good stat on the radio this morning in that if all games had finished at half-time this season, we would be 2nd; we have lost half-time leads in 6 of our matches this season.
62 Posted 03/12/2014 at 16:16:48
Hull do not look likely to score two this evening but like Soldado hadnÂt scored for yonks and then turns up trumps against the Blues I suppose Hull could find something too.
63 Posted 03/12/2014 at 16:07:07
I think the manager had to start Barry as Gibson and Mac were both out so the only alternative was Osman and he would have got totally over-run in there and his better performances have all come playing in the hole.
People are slating Roberto for putting players in the wrong position but to some degree this has been forced upon him with Pienaar and Mirallas injuries and Atsu not producing.
He inherited 3 players in Naismith, Barkley and Osman who all prefer to play in the hole and he signed a striker in EtoÂo who has always led the line but for us seems happier playing behind as well. If it was me, I would cash in on Naismith’s fine form and use the money to either buy Delboy or put towards another striker like Benteke.
65 Posted 03/12/2014 at 16:32:36
And Osman would have got over-run as DM? Like his previous game in that position?
67 Posted 03/12/2014 at 16:43:26
68 Posted 03/12/2014 at 16:37:09
As for Osman, he has done really well of late but he has always played better off the front and playing in Europe is much more technical than the frantic pace spurs played at on Sunday. There is a reason why both Moyes and Roberto, who both clearly have a soft spot for Ossie, have preferred not to play him in the defensive role.
70 Posted 03/12/2014 at 16:51:34
This is particularly evident when you have 2 attacking full backs into the bargain.
Eto, Mirallas , Lukaku, Mcgeady and Barkley and Ossie are all attack minded players who don’t defend well at all.
So to only play 2 "real" MF players when other teams are playing 4 or 5 means the link that is so vital to getting attacking full backs forward is not there and the opposition find it easy to put pressure on the ball and find space behind.
This is not Spain it is England where the work rate is higher and therefore the need for workhorses in MF is more of an issue.
We only have McCarthy and Besic (and did have Fellaini) whose can get up and down the pitch consistently for 90 minutes. Barry gets away with it because of his experience and reading of the game but doesn’t have the engine he once had.
71 Posted 03/12/2014 at 17:00:52
I don’t think our problem was so much our midfield being over-run (neither goal conceded came from being over-run in midfield - both errors) as our inability to move forward at pace and penetrate their defence.
72 Posted 03/12/2014 at 17:09:39
73 Posted 03/12/2014 at 17:05:02
As I said in my initial post it was just a poor jaded performance which is best forgotten and I would like to see the same team tonight as I feel they will make amends tonight. We hadn’t lost since Utd and hope we can put on another similar run.
75 Posted 03/12/2014 at 17:20:54
An unbalanced side.
76 Posted 03/12/2014 at 17:20:01
77 Posted 03/12/2014 at 17:28:59
78 Posted 03/12/2014 at 17:31:34
Why the Hell does Baines now stop and stand still with the ball? I honestly cannot recall seeing a Spurs player doing that, but Baines did it every single time he was in possession.
79 Posted 03/12/2014 at 17:26:00
we have not had the same players since he came.
McGeady and Eto and Atsu are all additions made and we have lost Delefeu.
In addition Naismith and Lukaku were holding the ball up better last season whereas this season they are getting caught on the ball more which then puts pressure on our MF.
80 Posted 03/12/2014 at 17:43:18
we might have been 8 games unbeaten but how many did we actually win.
We used to be a team that recovered from a losing position now we are a team that throws away a winning position.
81 Posted 03/12/2014 at 17:53:23
McCarthy ( if fit)
82 Posted 03/12/2014 at 17:49:34
Any Hull player who hasn’t scored in a decade can be guaranteed to end his drought tonight.
All our set piece deliveries will be appalling.
If he plays, Gaz Barry will be booked. If he doesn’t, Besic will.
Howard, Distin and Jagielka will get in a defensive muddle at least twice, leading to a goal conceded or heart failure for the crowd.
Lukaku will not win and/or compete for an aerial challenge.
McGeady will dazzle then frustrate.
That is all.
83 Posted 03/12/2014 at 17:57:31
Barry needs games to get back to form but I’m not sure he should play 3 games in 7 days having just come back from injury and would save him for City.
Naismith shouldn’t be rushed back, we have enough games coming up.
84 Posted 03/12/2014 at 18:01:47
86 Posted 03/12/2014 at 18:08:04
87 Posted 03/12/2014 at 17:45:43
Pundits are always saying that it is very hard to up the tempo of a game, once you have established your pattern. Maybe that is what happened at Spurs. It seemed to take till the last ten minutes for us to speed it up a bit.
And tonight for the record, my team is as follows.
Howard, Coleman, Distan,Jags, Baines,
Besic, Barkley, Barry,Nais(if fit, in the hole) Miralas, Lukaku.( If no Nais, Then Barkley in the hole, and Ossie in Midfield).
88 Posted 03/12/2014 at 18:14:21
It was certainly not an infantile challenge as mentioned earlier.
Anyway,off to the game lets hope for 3 points and a clean sheet.
89 Posted 03/12/2014 at 18:20:09
90 Posted 03/12/2014 at 18:20:26
91 Posted 03/12/2014 at 18:26:24
92 Posted 03/12/2014 at 17:50:11
95 Posted 03/12/2014 at 18:49:05
97 Posted 03/12/2014 at 17:57:41
98 Posted 03/12/2014 at 18:11:29
I’ve read enough I’m going the match.
Hopefully the players who have spent their entire careers operating at a level that was miles above the manager will start to contribute a little too.
They could have done it without him... but could he have ever done it if he hadn’t inherited them?
99 Posted 03/12/2014 at 19:02:40
100 Posted 03/12/2014 at 19:15:16
101 Posted 03/12/2014 at 21:47:02
102 Posted 03/12/2014 at 22:11:47
If we lose itÂs the managers fault. :-)
103 Posted 03/12/2014 at 22:16:17
If we win it is all to do with the manager. If we lose it is not the the manager's fault.
104 Posted 03/12/2014 at 22:18:07
105 Posted 03/12/2014 at 22:19:36
Who posted that ?
106 Posted 03/12/2014 at 22:20:29
107 Posted 03/12/2014 at 22:52:33
See Darren’s post at 98.
There is no logic in his posts re the subject in my opinion.
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