Januzaj still on Everton's radar

Centre half, centre midfield, centre forward, the word Roberto is??? Not winger!!!

I would love it, love it! If we signed him...

A loan move would be ideal.

Please, No!

He is not fast enough.

If we could get him, it would also remind GD that he has to perform to keep his place in the team. It would also help in keeping Lukaku supplied with the type of service he might thrive on.

I imagine that the likes of McGeady wonÂ’t be here at the end of the transfer window if we could bring in this lad and it must cast doubt on any hopes for Lennon arriving on a permanent basis.

How many wingers can a team have?

Two, Stephen. Another class player I would love to see us get.

Lol, was just going to say the same thing, Stephen. ItÂ’s either the gutter press linking us with anyone who is small, can run fast and hates tackling OR the club/manager have no clue what we really need. If its the former which I suspect it is then IÂ’m pretty sure Stoke ale house City are also mentioned somewhere, somehow.

Januzaj is another like Deulofeu very talented but seems to be inconsistent at Premier league level.

At his best he can be special but could we get the consistency out of him that Ferguson, Moyes and Van Gaal have failed to do?

Is he really class though? What has the guy done really to suggest heÂ’s a top player. Everytime IÂ’ve seen him play, he runs Into dead ends, doesnÂ’t get his head up and gets pushed off the ball too easily. Maybe IÂ’m missing something but I donÂ’t see much to suggest otherwise.

Good player, but donÂ’t see it happening.

We have Mirallas, Deulofeu and Barkley already. So he would not be a first choice starter, so Utd would see no benefit. If we got him on loan with a view to signing, then it would be a different story, as then we would have real competition for places.

But a loan for loans sake, no real point.

DoesnÂ’t Januzai play on the left?
The left side that was void of a player throughout last season!
I would welcome this signing on loan.

The stronger the squad the better.

However, they donÂ’t need extra players who just donÂ’t perform when called upon and Januzai has been a disappointment after a bright start at Manure.

That being said, so was Cleverley but he seems to have shown some good form at Villa so who knows what a change of club can do.

HeÂ’s always played as a winger, and IÂ’d rate Del as a better one-v-one winger, but what impresses me about him is his passing - pure class at times.

I have seen nothing so far to suggest heÂ’s a class player nor would I love him to be at Everton.

Every time I see him he looks just ok, very lightweight and not much of a shot on him.

There are others IÂ’d be targeting before Januzaj, players such as Nolito of Celta Vigo or scour the Bundesliga for some quality.
Maybe Olcay Sahin of Besiktas?

We need a genuine proven number 10, a midfielder who will get his four on the ball, not be scared of playing a forward pass.

Saw him win United the game at Sunderland a couple of years ago and thought he looked really special that day.

HasnÂ’t pushed on like he should have, but IÂ’m not sure how much heÂ’s played, since Ferguson left.

Think he would be a good signing because like Delafoe and Barkley, he will become a top, top player if he can get anywhere near his full potential.

I said it the other day on another thread Jim, but the player I think this team needs now, is a true leader. Someone to give all our talented kids, that extra bit of belief thatÂ’s needed, to reach the very top.

Perfect option for a loan.

I thought under Moyes (it was him who gave him his big chance) he looked like he could be a serious player. We need someone to play on the left wing (more than we needed a right winger to be honest) Januzaj has a lot of talent and I would be over the moon with a young forward line of Lukaku, Deulofeu, Barkley and Januzaj.

All that said, I think Martinez sees Cleverley as someone who can cover left mid, centre mid and attacking mid, basically an upgrade on Naismith, and if we did have the chance at Januzaj I would say McGeady would likely be on his bike.

The absolute priority is the lockpicker at No 10, one thing we were screaming out for, and then an experienced cb to challenge Jags and Stones. But when Roberto said 3 players a winger, a No 10 and left sided cb. I thought he meant left winger with only Pienaar on that side and Mirallas and McGeady more effective on the right. His one other I always thought to be Cleverley.

I think he thought Deulofeu was too good to pass up so he plans to make it work with the 4 we now have even though 3 of them are better suited to the right side and that is the reason he would go for Januzaj if possible but not at the detriment of the 10 or cb.

Would love it if we could sign him permanently but a loan would also be great. As weÂ’ve seen with Lukaku and Deulofeu if the environment is good they wonÂ’t be able to resist. I think if there really is a chance of Martinez getting him then he wonÂ’t let the opportunity pass.

Januzaj is another classy youngster who would be an asset in any team IMO. Fans on here make me laugh at under rating this kid and putting up with some of the dross we have on the books. I would be more inclined to let the likes of Gibson and Kone go and bring some really promising young players in.

If we cannot have Bolasie or Delph then Januzaj would be very welcome as this kid could be played as an attacking midfielder or winger. He has ball control and pace which is patently lacking at EFC.

If we sign him on loan we have to have a end game plan or we are pissing into the wind.

Loan with a view to sign and a fee in place; that way, we have the upper hand.

I want him in our team but I think if Moyes want him, he will definitely join him in La Liga, just like why Del-boy chose us.

With the exception of Atsu, RM has ultimately signed every player he has brought in on loan. If Januzaj does indeed come in on a loan, I think you can expect that Martinez will purchase him after. Loans for RM tend to be auditions.

It would be good move. He is young and talented. Talent we have, youth not so much.

Darryl you have (understandably) wiped Traore from your memory but also youÂ’ve missed Lennon which may mean youÂ’re getting Alzeimers.

I agree his use of the loan market has been very good to date. One error whether from him or up above is that we seem to take loans with no option to buy. Infact the only one we appeared to have an option to buy was Barry who was at the end of his contract and so cost us more not less!

Strange to me. I guess the initial loan must be cheaper without an option in place or perhaps it just saves the club a few pennies on legal fees.

Would be good business on loan, but as people have stated if our wage bill is limited, which it surely is, we need to prioritise other positions. Striker, centre back and most importantly an attacking mid.

Adam, our wage bill took a hit when we signed the average Cleverly on £80k a week!

DR 575 Â’RM has ultimately signed every player he has brought in on loanÂ’.

What about that beanpole with a back heel?
Troare - after much binding in the marsh he didnÂ’t sign him either as I recollect. Or was that one of OFMÂ’s?

John: 80k a week? Where did you get that figure from??

I have not seen a single report that mentions CleverleyÂ’s wage, just that it is above McCartheys 35k.

Did you just make up a number and use it as fact?

Fran I read it the other week, canÂ’t remember which site but if you look back heÂ’s been asking for 80k in wages last summer. HeÂ’s not going to reduce them now thereÂ’s no transfer fee involved.

A quick google search suggests he was on about 70k at utd. Seems he got quite a pay rise after his bright start 3 years ago. But as his star has fallen quite significantly, to see him increase this seems unlikely.

It would also appear at odds to our usually strict wage structure, even EtoÂ’o came to us on significantly less than he had been previously.

But I havnt seen any reference to his wage for us.

Who know. Either way, itÂ’ll be ridiculously too much.

The wage / transfer is just a pot of money at the end of the day.

ItÂ’s why the word Â’FreeÂ’ is completely daft.

What’s the difference between paying a £5m transfer or paying someone an extra £5m over the course of their contract ?

The money is just going to the player rather than the club, why do you think they hold out to end their contracts ?

Anyway, if Januzaj was a loan or a free - heÂ’d still be a premium one - that doesnÂ’t mean it couldnÂ’t be negotiated.

Please no – not another winger. We all know what we need and that is a striker and a centre-half.

Talking about Cleverley, I read that he took a pay cut to come to us think. It was about £50 grand a week.

Everything I have read seemed to indicate that Cleverley was on around £50/55k and that is about what I think he would get from us. No chance he is on £70k or £80k in mind. Lukaku cost £28M and he isn’t on £80k.

Lennon is a work in progress, donÂ’t close the book on him yet. Must admit, I completely forgot about Traore; but he did fail the audition spectacularly, didnÂ’t he.

Ye he looked garbage although to be fair only played 2 games. Would be happy with Lennon

If Man Utd let us have an option to buy him, then this would be a great loan signing. HeÂ’s got a lot of talent and heÂ’s still only 20 or 21 so a lot more to come.

Would a great signing as he also plays on the left and I think Pienaar is done.

However, I wouldn’t sign him if it’s just a normal loan – he would just be another Atsu.

Have we not got enough of these lightweight brain-dead wingers with no final ball?

There’s no way Cleverley’s on £80k a week at Everton and if he is, someone needs to be sectioned for putting on a par (or slightly above, I believe) the likes of Lukaku, Jagielka and Baines.

Isn’t our top rate at £75k p/w? I suppose the new tv deal will change this but I can’t see Cleverley being on anything over £60k.

Janusaj is a good example of a player whoÂ’s face doesnÂ’t fit. I thought he looked superb under OFM but LVG has other ideas and wants to flood his tean with overpriced Dutch and German players who "get his philosophy". This doesnÂ’t make the kid a bad player but it makes us in a good position to get him on the cheap. Hernandez as well?

I agree with Tony Abrahams that the team lacks a true leader.

Jags. has been a very consistent performer but somehow as a back four player in a team that doesnÂ’t defend all that well and under pressure I feel he has little time to be a motivator further up the park.

A driving influence in the mold of Peter Reid or Alan Ball is something that has been missing from this squad for many years.

Januzaj is a class act and he could thrive in a No.10 or forward role. Reminds me of Robben when he was young. A massive coup to whoever signs him.

James, like I said back in September the Janusaj rumour has real legs and I expect this deal to be finalised next week.
Like you I also see Janusaj in the No.10 role as the lad has great ball control and vision and for utd he was far more effective coming inside then he was as an out and out winger.
I still have high hopes for Sergi Roberto to fill that role but the internal politics (elections) at Barcelona are complicating this. They definitely donÂ’t want to be seen to be losing another Â’bright young thingÂ’ from La Masia even though they know he needs to go out on loan.

Hope this is true Colin, but if not, I wouldnÂ’t mind seeing Delefoe playing inside now and again.

As we have seen already with Anichebe, Rodwell and Barkley, highly talented youngsters don't always make it at the top and can be very inconsistent.

Peter Reid and Andy Gray didn't do too badly for "has beens"...

I believe we need an experienced MF general in the Peter Reid mould who can get the rest of them up for it. We also need a keeper who can dominate his area and boss the back 4.

Colin (703), Janusaj is a very good player but I hope this is not true, for the simple reason if he comes Aarron Lennon wonÂ’t and I think Lennon would be a better fit for Everton over the season, I think he is much stronger than the young Man Utd player.

If it comes with the option to sign, then great. As in the long term, Barkley, Deulofeu, Lukaku, Januzaj, McCarthy, Stones (with Ledson coming through too) would set us up very nicely indeed.

However, as a warm up season for Man Utd I donÂ’t see the benefit. We need a long-term creative option, not a short-term fix. Hopefully next season weÂ’ll in Europe again, and we don’t want to go back to the drawing board. (DeulofeuÂ’s absence this year hurt us when we replaced him with Atsu; we can’t make the same mistake again.)

However, I donÂ’t see Lennon as the answer, Lennon for me would ideally replace McGeady. That would be an improvement of our squad.

But we still need a high quality creative midfielder/attacker, who will be here for longer than 10 months.

If you are right, Colin, I will be impressed by your inside intel. If he was on the market, I can see a bigger fish swooping. PSG openly courted him before so, as I said before, if we pull it off, it will be a real coup.

Sorry, but I really donÂ’t see the point in this one. I think we are better than giving players like Januzaj an opportunity to make mistakes for a Â’lesser clubÂ’. Atsu was one thing; if he had done well, we could have bought him. If Januzaj does well, the only team who will benefit is Man Utd. On top of that, I donÂ’t think we really need him...

What is it with this club and Man Utd players? How many have we bought or been linked with over the last few years?

This kid is nothing special. HeÂ’s one-paced and is weak, a bit of a one-trick pony, if you ask me... I hope this is just rag talk.