Everton hold talks with Pellegrini

A big no thank you. Failed with a glittering squad at City and stubborn beyond belief to his plan A.

I wouldn't say he failed with a glittering squad. I think that club way over spent on the wrong defenders. He led them further than they had ever been in the Champions League. And he did win the league with them.

This season was disappointing, but the wheels truly came off when it was announced months ago that Pep would be replacing him. It seems like at that point the players shifted their focus to the champions league, and by all accounts the players liked the manager.

It's a tough one for me. Would he be given the right players, and could he convince the likes of Lukaku and Stones to stay? His team's scored a ton of goals. But defensively, not very good.

Ah for f**k's sake, more rumours. I am so confused and excited at the same time. All these names being banded around.

Pellegrini is a big name to be linked with the club.

My City season ticket holder mate said he was like Bobby. No ta.

Too grey and not enough blood in his body. I don't think he would inspire the players enough to build something for the next five years, win things or qualify for the Champions League on the way.

If his location in the northwest has anything to do with the final decision, I'm packing my bags William Shatner/Airplane 2 style.

It's got to be De Boer.

Got the European experience and pedigree. Exactly what we need.

Pellegrini?

Too old.

Too much like a 1970's Italian (I know he's Chilean) porn film star.

Too much like Count Dracula.

No thank you!

Would prefer Emery or De Boer but wouldn't say no.

They should just put a mannequin (or mannequins) in front of one of the windows and make it wear a different mask every day just to confuse hell out of the press hounds and throw them off the scent.

"Our intrepid reporter saw Pellegrini stood motionless in the exact same spot for more than six hours, clearly fucking stumped by the very first question put to him"

"Newly slimline, now Not So Big Ron Atkinson next on the neverending conveyor belt as Everton managerial saga takes surprise turn".

"Tommy Cannon and Bobby Ball in contention to form blues dream team. A seething Bobby Davro spotted on the roof"

" Exclusive: 'You're fired (before you're even hired).
Today, the Daily Star can exclusively reveal the ruthless extremes Everton FC are prepared to go to to eliminate unsuitable candidates from their managerial shortlist. Shocked onlookers watched on in horror as a clearly petrified Alan Pardew was dragged in front of the window, drenched in petrol and set ablaze, in broad daylight, before being severely beaten about the face and body with a yard brush. "It was 'orrible" said Faniliqa Flappes-Jacques, "That poor man. I'll never, ever, forget that face. Cor, sent shivers straight down my spine, I don't mind saying."

He looks like an evil man.

Not good enough as he has shown this by throwing away the title after such a great start.

I just have a feeling this would not work out to well between Pellegrini and us.

I'd prefer Emery or De Boer.

Nice guy, knows the game wouldn't have the dosh that the sheikh has given him. I don't think he would give our kids a chance – too old and soft, not for us.

Too much character assassination going on here, look at his record, he's a good manager, who's managed good teams.

Personal insults about somebody's appearance are just childlike. Let's judge the man on his ability not his looks for fucksake.

The porn star's record in Europe isn't great. Won the Premier League and League Cup (twice) at Man City and the Intertoti cup which isn't even really a cup – it was a preliminary round before the preliminary rounds of the UEFA C up. That's it.

Exclusive: Everton FC following a thorough search for a new manager has decided to return to a system that served the club so well in it's illustrious past. Having tried to find a manager who would be acceptable to all of the fan-base, the board has given up. Therefore, the board has formed a committee of three to help oversee first team affairs and choose the best eleven to represent the club on the pitch.

The three people who are on the committee are Jimmy Martin, Bill Kenwright and another person as yet to be confirmed. Should any Everton supporter be less than satisfied with this arrangement they can air their concerns on the ToffeeWeb site, and the board will take their views into consideration

........meanwhile back in the real world we'll get who we're given and we have to hope that the person appointed has more plus points than negatives. It's just a pity we couldn't have sacked Roberto sooner as we could have gone for that weird German bloke with the glasses, the one who displays his passion by jumping up and down and waves his hands a lot, he knows how to turn a fading squad into winners - oh hang on a minute....

His record in Spain is nothing to boast about. He won nothing at Madrid which takes some doing. He was at Malaga when they were trying to emulate PSG and City with big spending but achieved so little the owner called it quits and pulled an agent Johnson.

At Villarreal he got into the champions league thanks to a corrupt ref called Collina. Even a top four finish in Spain is no biggie cause they've only got three proper teams. Valencia, Seville, Deportivo, Rayo Vallecano, Bilbao, Betis, Sociedad, Villarreal and every other Tom Dick and Harry team take it in turns to finish fourth based on who is the least broke each year.

Dan (9)

Just trying to lighten things up a bit

We need more than a "good" manager we need the very best. Someone with fire in his belly and young enough to stick around over the longer term. Pellegrini does not cut it for me. In fact. I feel he one of the very worst options of those being touted by the media.

Kieran, name me a more successfull Everton manager since 1995. 1995 mate.

Stephen@13, I too would like a top manager but I think we could do worse than Pellegrino!

I'm not a Pellegrino lover at all I just think we don't need to take the piss out of him because he's a bit grey.

He's one of a number of managers I think could get us up into the top 5 or 6 short term.

As an aside I've heard that the best way to lose silver is to purchase that cream the boys over the park advertise nearly every minute of the day.

Next! We have got to look elsewhere.

Not my nr 1 choice, but a good manager. Saying he's done nothing is kinda crazy, seing how he won the league with city, and kept them in the top four(even after being fired) all the years he was there. I know they spent tons of money, but so did QPR some years back, and they got relagated. I though Vardy and co had show how money really isn't all in football, so much more is needed. And Pellegrini got the job done at City.

After a few years with RM, Id prefer a more defensive oriented manager, though, but I'm extatic we're linked with such high end managers these days, us supporters doesnt think a PLwinning manager is good enough. This must be a step in the right direction.

I've not turned grey or wrinkley just yet Patrick but when I do, there's no chance of me buying that shit!

Not sure how well he works with young players in developing them. Seems hands off which isn't always good with younger players. Still a step above (or two or three) RM so if Emery isn't available, then okay.

Out of a possible short-list of de Boer, Koeman, Emery and Pellegrini, it's the Chilean / Italian porn star which excites me the least, despite having a decent CV.

At least we appear to be shopping in the right supermarket for this one though.

Dan,

You're setting the bar pretty low if you're simply looking for someone who has had more than Everton since 1995. The whole point is that we are trying to progress not just get someone who's marginally better than David Moyes.

Elvind

Comparisons between QPR and Pelligrini are silly. Firstly City spent hundreds of millions on world class players while QPR paid tens of millions for has beens and castoffs like Park, Samba and Taraabt. They are not exactly at the level of Aguerro, Toure and Silva. Secondly, in the two years prior to Pelligrini arriving City had won the league and the FA cup. QPR have never won either and weren't even in the EPL when they started throwing money around.

It will be interesting to see if we end up with some top notched gaffer who has choices and really wants to be here rather than someone who is out of work and needs to be here.

Patrick 29, as an aside to yours, talk about an advert coming true... Klopp waving out the coach window to the girl in the car, who then gives him the sign calling him a loser, then shows the blue scarf in the back. That was pasted all over the Europa League final and after they were beaten, why did Klopp agree to do it?Oh and Pelligrini, no, De Boer yes.

At least this time round our board appear to be performing proper interviews with a range of suitable candidates, in the unconfirmed press rumours at least.

A slightly better quality Martinez in my view. Severe defensive weakness.

Sooner have Mourhino, Emery, Cocu or Koeman in that order.

At least we are being mentioned with all the right names. Now who on the Board would be responsible for that?

Far "too nice"

We need a manager with a bit of spite,a strong character.

Pellegrini's nett spend in his 3 years at City is 214 million. In my opinion he has had about a 50% success ratio with his purchases. I would say that is worrying. But this may be down to Txiki Bergiristain and not Pellegrini.

Back in April I asked a Man City mate of mine if he thought Pellegrini would be a good manager for Everton. Here is what he said.

"Nice man. Does things the right way. Feel he can be a good calming influence on the Club. I think his biggest weakness is he can be a little stubborn tactically and with certain players....however some may say this is loyalty. Case in point Yaya playing week in and week out (a) in a midfield two and (b) captaining the side when Vinny is out. Also, he is quite fond of 4/4/2 and with Yaya being one of the 2 in that midfield, it doesn't work. He did exceptionally well at Malaga and previously in Spain. You could do a lot worse."

So with that information, I wouldn't be unhappy if he was our next manager, but I would prefer Emery, Koeman or de Boer.

To be honest, he sounds like an older version of Martinez!!

NO. NO. NO
Not good enough. Had lots of chances with lots of money and was lucky to win title with city.
How's about Van Gaal though.

John, #35, my Manc supporting mates think LVG is just a Dutch version of Moyes and are happy to see the back of him.

Jay, not sure if you'd noticed in the news but Mourhino isn't in the frame anymore as he's going to Manchester, so I think he can be taken off the list. I see you didn't have Frank de Boer on your list??

John #36 I'm pretty sure LVG said had he seen out his final year at Utd he was going to retire. Similarly Guus Hiddink at Chelsea has also been talking of retirement (I've seen plenty on these pages mention his credentials).

We probably need to have a bit of stability in the hotseat or run the risk of becoming a bit of a revolving door.

Pretty sure God himself could descend to manage us and there would be those saying saying ' nah, no experience in the Premiership/what's he won?/didn't like that whole letting his son die on the cross thing....'

Pellegrini would not be my top pick (that would be Emery) but he's a highly thought of, successful and experienced manager who has won the Premier league! There aren't that many better available managers out there.

Great experience, has won trophies, is respected in the game etc... What's not to like? Ok, he might not be box office but he will be surrounded by egotistical lunatics (Klopp, Mourinho and Guardiola) and he could really show them up for what they are.

As long as we continue to be linked with top managers I'm happy.

If these rumours are all true, I'm glad we're looking at plenty of decent managers. That's a sign that the new regime is interested in minor details like due diligence, taking their time, making a thought-out decision, etc.

How many people who want the new manager installed yesterday were critical of the last 'quick, convenient' decision?

No, no, no, no, noooooooooooooooooo!!!!

Well, Pellegrini does fall within that favoured magic circle of being domiciled less than 60 miles from Goodison (that has served us so well recently... cough) and therefore ticks a couple of the boards boxes being based in the NW and of course having the wife and family here. So he is settled, local and an under achiever despite a limitless budget.

Kieran, 27, I know about the QPR thing, but my point still stands. When they went down, their team was more than good enough not to. But money alone doesnt cut it, you also need a good manager to stay up.

With the resources at his disposal at Citeh, finishing second should be regarded as failure. He finished fourth and only just. Even John Barnes or Fat Ron could have achieved that.

It's a no from me.

Still think Koeman would be best. How much is he on at Southampton? I've heard around ٠m. In which case, we could double his money.

Pellegrini? No thanks.

'Manuel Oldmanini is too nice.'

'Absolutely, if we want to win stuff, we need a total bastard like Rani..er...i.'

Of course managers can make a difference, but this 2 + 2 = success (or failure) thinking is bollocks.

Want to post what you know for sure – post 'I don't know anything.'

Because you don't – none of us do.

Yet most manager suggestions are 'backed' by a black and white 'He'd be good coz he did this' or 'He'd be shit coz didn't achieve that'

Well let's see how that works out.

One of the most successful managers in football history got the sack this season because he couldn't get his (Chelsea) players to perform for him.

In the same season, another manager, who less than 2 years ago was sacked because he couldn't prevent his team (Greece) losing at home to to a bunch of inbred fishermen who live on a rock somewhere off Norway, took last year's relegation candidates Leicester to the Premier League title... for the first time in their history... with a squad that didn't cost a squillion. (Oh, and that manager is two years older than Manuel Oldmanini.)

How many of us would have said yes to Ranieri a year ago?

(Clue: not fucking one of us!)

Could he have been successful with us?

Definitely yes... or no.

No-one knows anything.

Winners can become losers and losers, winners.

'But surely there's some...'

Well okay, anyone coming in has a chance if he has a plan that isn't terrible and his players don't hate his guts, but... that's it. Any other theories, file under wishful-thinking / fantasy / 100% guesswork etc.

For me, the sooner we get someone in, the better, otherwise it'll be a summer of 'He's shite, yeah okay they finished 3rd, but that was mainly the squad he'd inherited and don't forget he had 㿲m to spend...' Etc etc etc etc..

'So who do you want then smart-arse?'

Genuinely (because... see above) not arsed if it's Pellegrini or Dyche or Van Gaal or De Boer or Benitez or anyone who isn't Moyes or Pardew.

Moyes because we've done that and Pardew because I'd hate to have to shove rusty nails into my own eyes (which I'd be forced to do if I ever saw an Everton manager react in the beyond cunty way he did to Puncheon's goal on Saturday).

I'm not a fan of Pellegrini.

Pellegrini has won the Premier League. Koeman hasn't.

Arguing that Koeman has the potential to be a better manager is pure conjecture.

I would be happy with any of the 4 that are rumoured. They are all big time names – not what we were looking at 3 years ago. People will moan whoever gets the job, so lets sit back and let those in charge do their job. I think we will happy in August... well some of us will.

How can we persuade our best players to stay at the club in the absence of a manager? I reckon we are in for a long flirtation with relegation next season unless we have somebody quickly assemble a stronger squad.

Currently we have one goalkeeper and three centre halves, two of whom want to leave. We have a striker who clearly no longer wants to be at the club, and three backups (Niasse, Kone and McAleny) who so far have failed to hit a barn door with a banjo when it comes to Premier League goals.

There is no guarantee that any of Davies, Dowell, Walsh, Pennington, Connolly or Kenny will make it as Premier League players.

I like optimism generally but I'm really having to search for some at the moment. Much as I like shouting "Shoot" every time Hibbo gets the ball and think Leon Osman has always been misunderstood and underrated, if they line up for Everton next season, I will be putting my season tickets on StubHub.

I also do not believe for one second Moshiri has the best interests of Everton Football Club at heart. It's business – pure and simple. He could sell Lukaku and Stones, make a quick profit, and sell the club on to the next Peter Johnson.

Good post Eugene. I think everyone is just getting a bit over excited by the names being banded around.

Usually we'd be looking at O'Neil, Howe, Big Sam but with Moshiri behind us we can aim for a manager who has actually won the Premier League (not an easy achievement, ask Wenger).

Pellegrini would be a big step up for this club. With all the names being banded about, is he the right man? Who knows. He's a gentleman though so I think he deserves a bit more respect than he's got on here so far.

I think most big clubs in the world would be interested in Emery, Pellegrini and De Boer after what they have achieved. I'm just pleased that we're being linked with the likes of them and not people who have never won anything.

The fact that some on here are turning their noses up at a Premier League winner and a man who has just won 3 European titles in a row shows (1) That it's exciting times for EFC, and (2) That a lot of ToffeeWebers won't be happy until we're winning the treble every season.

Thank you, Eugene. That sums it up precisely and concisely. Whoever you get there's an element of luck and that's what you can't budget for.

James Stewart (#1) – I didn't need to look beyond your post to do find someone I fully agree with!

Let's just pick a name out of a hat then.

And let's flog Lukaku and replace him with some League 2 striker in the hope he becomes the next Vardy.

What nonsense. Of course discussing and assessing past performance is useful. Every appointment is a gamble, but you can at least give yourself half a chance.

Pellegrini hasn't improved one player at Man City, and whereas he'd improve us by 15 points a season, I still don't see the maximum being brought out of the squad.

I'd love to see Bielsa, simply as this guy is box office. And who wouldn't like to pick the 3-3-3-1 line-up each week?

Steve Clark. Knows a lot more than most managers, but does he just cut it as a coach?

And please, Rafa sign with the Barcodes.

Teddy (54) - '..a lot of ToffeeWebbers won't be happy until we're winning the treble every season.'

Fine with me, that's dreaming and I'm all for dreaming big, but re a new manager, the 'logic' many are applying is (imo) beyond childlike.

Here's Gavin (51) - 'Pellegrini has won the Premier League. Koeman hasn't. Arguing that Koeman has the potential to be a better manager is pure conjecture.'

So there you go, last year Gavin happily fucks off a potential title coz he wouldn't entertain Ranieri.

(See how this works... or rather doesn't work?)

As for conjecture, in football terms, it's ALL conjecture – you only have all the (necessary) details when your manager has just been sacked, lifted a trophy or finished 11th.

Eugene, we as men will talk football about 60% of every time we open our mouths. And all football talk, be it between two 8 year olds or Henry Winter bending the ear of Brian Moore, it is all conjecture bollocks. It just fills the gap between matches the best way we know how... I mean, what are we going to do, watch soaps?

But one person's bollocks is no different to anyone elses and the best way to acknowledge this is to simply say 'football is all about opinions'. Even Michael on one thread was having a go at a submission that dared to think of decent transfer targets, where as on another Lyndon was submitting his.

Yes, that is all bollocks, but without it we wouldn't even have a ToffeeWeb. Granted, we wouldn't have Robbie Savage earning off the licence fee either, so swings and roundabouts.

Phil Sammon (57) – 'Of course discussing and assessing past performance is useful.'

Brilliant, not 'I think' but 'of course.'

Sings: "You say pot-ar-to, I say pot-ate-to, you say useful, I say fucking pointless."

Go on, I'll bite – explain how you (or me for that matter) 'discussing and assessing past performance' of potential managers (that we won't get to choose) (on a website) could be 'useful' to Everton's chances of getting 'the right man'.

I think Pellegrini is being tainted by his association to hard-to-like City, and therefore is being given little credit, even for winning the Premier League and two domestic cups.

Not sure he's my first choice either but there's no denying that he's a good experienced manager, at a level that I'm glad to see Everton being associated with.

Younger, more energetic managers (eg, Emery) always seem to generate more enthusiasm from the fans but a respected veteran who has won the Premier League in recent years should not be discarded so lightly.

Eugene - you are being harsh on Pardew, as his "cunty" celebration served a very important, higher, purpose. It tempted fate.

Amit, you mean like Drogba at the last World Cup praying to go through to the second round? God was obviously a Greece fan.

Nick (6) - Eugene, we as men will talk football about 60% of every time we open our mouths. And all football talk, be it between two 8 year olds or Henry Winter bending the ear of Brian Moore, it is all conjecture bollocks. It just fills the gap between matches the best way we know how... I mean, what are we going to do, watch soaps?

Agree completely! (even though I suspect your 60% is from the institute of completely invented statistics)

'But one person's bollocks is no different to anyone else's and the best way to acknowledge this is to simply say 'football is all about opinions'. Even Michael on one thread was having a go at a submission that dared to think of decent transfer targets, where as on another Lyndon was submitting his'

Disagree completely! The fact that it is 'all opinions' is imo too easy - some opinion/s is/are informed and intelligent, some ill-informed and unintelligent. That is surely beyond dispute.

'Yes, that is all bollocks, but without it we wouldn't even have a ToffeeWeb. Granted, we wouldn't have Robbie Savage earning off the licence fee either, so swings and roundabouts.

As you say, swings and roundabouts.

Kevin #53 I would expect people to know for the first week in June, It is a big summer but we are still in May.

I am not sure about Pellegrini big name just doesn't float my boat, The same with Koeman his CV is not that great.

Emery would be amazing, I just glad that we are talking to a number of Managers who all have a good pedigree.

Eugene, have you seen Best of Enemies?

One scene reminded me of yourself, as William F Buckley dissects, point by point, Gore Vidal's assertion on Ronald Regan.

Vidal's response makes this clip essentially Eugene v ToffeeWeb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbSEyVse0fs

Pellegrini has managed more clubs than Manchester City; his record in Spain is very impressive.

If one was certain that he had control over the transfer of players in and out of Man City, then one could be critical of his time there. If he did not have control, then I suppose one could be critical of him for not demanding same; however, given his records away from Man City, he is another very good option.

Louis Van Gaal.....sacked. The power of Neil Custis and "The Sunday Supplement". What a gang of pricks!!!

Eugene 61

What are you singing for?

Did I say that my discussion of the manager was important? No. However, of course it's important for those in charge to discuss it. I'd have thought that wasn't even debatable.

Interesting that you feel your view of Pardew should be aired...and everyone else should just keep quiet.

Read this earlier (about Utd/Van Gaal) - Link

An interesting and revealing article and this stood out..

From that point onwards, he started sending the players individual emails detailing their faults and submitting video clips to highlight his dissatisfaction. Except by that stage a lot of the players were so disillusioned many ignored the emails or redirected them straight to their trash. Van Gaal suspected as much and had a tracker fitted so he could check if the emails were opened and for how long. It became a game of cat and mouse. Some players opened the emails on their mobiles, then left their phones on the side and wandered off for 20 minutes. It reached the point where many players regarded international breaks as a welcome break and the chance to play in a relaxed atmosphere away from a manager they never fully understood and who, to borrow one description, was thought of as 'weird.'

The reason this stood out for me is because it is an(other) example of the randomness of the whole process and how much of it is down to the squad of players and how far they are prepared to go with the manager.

The quote above says (fairly plainly) re Van Gaal that Utd's players didn't/wouldn't 'buy into' him.

But his record suggests squads he's had in the past (Ajax, Barcelona, AZ, Bayern) did.

Mourinho (with all his success) could arrive* and get nothing from our squad. Big Sam could come in and they all want to run through walls for him.

I don't dismiss past (managerial) achievements, but the evidence (specially the very recent evidence) suggests you might have just as good a chance of success with an underachieving manager who is loved by his players, than an overachieving manager who is thought of as a mad 'orrible twat by his players.

* as Van Gaal just got sacked, re Mourinho, I'm obviously speaking hypothetically.

John Louis (66) I agree in general with what you say. Pellegrini does not excite me but he is a vastly experienced man who has managed at the top of the club game in Europe. I don't think he would lead us to a relegation struggle. My point I suppose is that we need a swift decision on our direction. I would accept Pellegrini, Emery, De Boer, Benitez would be interesting. They all have a huge rebuilding job.

I would like Koeman because he has done well at Southampton, is intelligent and articulate and appears to know the European market well and he is most likely to bring on the youngsters we have. I also liked the way he handled the reluctant Wanyama and Mane.

After the Southampton match he pointed out the space his midfielders had to play with in the game unsurprisingly as Gibson spent the entire match stood between our centre halves, Barkley doesn't do defending which left McCarthy to run around in the middle of the park.

Breaking news on BBC is that Moyes has pulled out of Villa job after an interview last week. Cue a media frenzy that this is because he is returning to us.

You've got to ask what the usual MO for hiring a manager was when soppy bollocks had total control. It was clear that Kenwright wanted to have a hand in transfers, phone the poor fucker every day, and generally run the club alongside a Moyes or Martinez. Another definite plus for BK was that any manager had to say what a great chairman Bill was at every opportunity. That's why he interviewed the likes of Stubbs & Neville when Moyes left – typical BK patsies who he could have total control over. Martinez was a match made in heaven for BK. He chatted as much tripe as Bill and I imagine the two of them got on like a house on fire.

Hopefully, we are now taking a more professional approach. I have read the club have employed actual HR experts (shock, horror) to contact potential targets. Whoever our next manager is, you can be sure they will have been through due process before being handed a possible 𧴜m transfer kitty along with a salary befitting a club with renewed ambition. The days of BK running the club as his own West End production are thankfully behind us.

Emery, Koeman or De Boer will do for me.

Maybe Moyes thinks he's in with chance of a return. Frankly the thought makes me feel quite sick. If we do this I believe it will be one huge mistake, bigger than our last, in that we will have passed on an opportunity of finally bringing silverware back to Goodison. Oh and Pellegrini excites me way more than than Davey Boy coming back!

Phil Sammontics (69) - "Did I say that my discussion of the manager was important? No. However, of course it's important for those in charge to discuss it. I'd have thought that wasn't even debatable"

HAHAHAHAHA – superb!

You know what, for giving me a laugh, I'd be happy to pretend I didn't notice you slip in 'for those in charge.' in your reply.

Unfortunately even Lennie Peters can see I was talking about opinions expressed on TW, rather than advocating 'those in charge' should just 'pick a name out of a hat.'

(As for why I'm singing – thought I'd give it a go just for you as you apparently have difficulty understanding simple posts in the traditional form.)

As my kids might say 'Eugene owns Phil' on this one!

Why do all the articles about contenders (porno, boring bloke, Dick Emery) etc say they're under consideration along with "of course David Moyes and Jurgen Klinnsman." Is this like a wind-up, some sort of media in-joke.

Pellegrini may have had an army of expensive players at his disposal but when that army contains self serving prima donna princesses like Toure, Nasri and Sterling it makes the job a whole lot harder.

"To be honest, he sounds like an older version of Martinez!!"

Exactly what my mate said (City fan). We have to be far more ambitious than this. It would not work.

Can't be too surprised that the club is talking to more than one person. Hopefully they will meet with Pellegrini, FdB, Koeman and Emery and then make a decision on one of them.

Personally I'd take either of the Dutch guys first, then Pellegrini and Emery would be my last choice out of the four. Did a great job with Sevilla in the EL but not convinced by his league form. Finishing 7th in a 3 horse race doesn't fill me with confidence.

Hopefully it'll be FdB. Can't see Koeman leaving Saints to come to us and Pellegrini, whilst a good manager, is hardly one for the long term given he's in his 60s.

At least we're not being linked with the likes of Moyes, Bruce and Pullis!

Denis (#81), Moyes has just turned Villa down for some reason... let's hope to God the reason is not because his best friend Kenwright has asked him to come back to us.

Keiran Kinsella, put the glue down for fuck sake! No he didn't win anything at Real but he came second behind the best team in world football at the time whilst also breaking Madrid's best ever points tally in a league campaign. Very unlucky!

In his first full season at Malaga he got them into the CL and in doing so it got him the City gig.

And at Villarreal he didn't just make the CL cos of Colina! That time round he did help them out but a couple of seasons later he finished third in the league and qualified outright!

And we can look at his time at City in which ever way we like but he won the league with them and 2 league cups so still achieved things there. And after the club announced Guardiola was to take over he took it admirably and still tried to do his best and got City to semi's of the CL even though alot of the time the players downed tools.

Pellegrini is a good manager and even the best have slumps and make dodgy signings but I wouldn't mind Pellegrini at all. If he could come in and replicate what he did at both Villarreal & Malaga with us then happy days!

We are at least being linked with proper managers, with serious reputations.

Ian Glassey #52, great post and exactly right.

Please tell me that Moyes is not coming back here with him giving Villa the elbow. If that was the case my 58yrs of going to the Old Lady are over my season ticket can go pn Stub Hub.

Moyes is not coming back here!

Not linked to managers directly but our old CEO, Keith Wyness, is reportedly returning to take on that role at Villa. Where has he been since leaving us?

Emery has had a lot of money put on him in the last 24 hours, he is now 2/1 favourite.

He is my nailed on first choice, Ok his away form was not that good last season however he got Sevilla to 2 cup finals and won one.

Go and look at the way he has had to rebuild every summer (http://www.transfermarkt.com/sevilla-fc/transfers/verein/368/plus/0?saison_id=2013&pos=&detailpos=&w_s=) and tell me Koeman has done a better job. to rebuild a squad every summer and still go and win a European trophy must tell you some thing.

Could the prospect of having to work with Wyness have put Moyes off the Villa job.
I hope its not Bill raising expectations again.

Dave (88) - 'Not linked to managers directly but our old CEO, Keith Wyness, is reportedly returning to take on that role at Villa. Where has he been since leaving us?'

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Nick, love the youtube click, very funny :D

Eugene, your LVG extract was interesting. The e-mail's sounded farcical. He did come across as a dour twat. Maybe his approach was different at other clubs, particularly if he was getting success and didn't have to highlight their faults (maybe he did this at Utd to cover his arse) :o I think it's a combination of both approach and as you say whether they can engage/maintain relationships. As a colleague once said 'everything's relational'.

I'm afraid Pellegrini is favourite now, Emery is drifting in the market.

Pellegrini won't get it.

Mike 93, given how we are getting the "un-favorite" outcomes recently, take it that it is better the bettor's favorite is not the fan favorite. Hopefully Moshiri will just drive Emery to Goodison on his way back from Seville.

We should interview 4-5 candidates and then decide which one is the best. I've always said, as long as its not Benitez, Howe, OFFM and types of that ilk I'm not too worried.

Eugene 76

'Unfortunately even Lennie Peters can see I was talking about opinions expressed on TW, rather than advocating 'those in charge' should just 'pick a name out of a hat.',

And these people obviously base their decision on many factors. Given that most of these factors are known by us fans, is it completely absurd to discuss their pros and cons on an Everton forum?

I know you struggle to discuss things when people question you, Eugene. I'll expect another barrage of CAPITAL LETTERS and bold font.

de Boer, Pellegrini, Koeman or Emery in that order for me.

Phil - 'And these people obviously base their decision on many factors. Given that most of these factors are known by us fans, is it completely absurd to discuss their pros and cons on an Everton forum?'

WHAT the flippety-flip are you on about?

Once again, in your effort to be 'right' (like that's ever going to happen) you have simply lost your thread.

(that nonsense above, in the context of the discussion, might well have been the result of an angry parrot jumping up and down on the keys).

Tip: Follow the actual discussion rather than the one that only takes place in your head.

(caps and bold included so you can feel like you scored a point)

Who the flipping heck cares what anybody is on about, all that matters right now is we don't get flipping David Moyes back. Seriously guys it's getting scarier by minute, my association with Everton FC could be about to go down the toilet.

The Mirror paper says that Everton are interviewing nine managers about the job and one of them is Moyes. I hope he doesn't get the job. That would be really bad news.
Also the Sun paper says we are bidding 㿔 million for Joe Hart. Lol.

Agree totally Jackie,

Moyes coming back would be awful....

1, Because he is a long term loser and big game bottler

2, Because disrespected us big time prior to and after leaving the club

3, His name is not big enough to attract top, top players

And finally, he would give Osman, Hibbert, Gibson and Pienaar contract extensions (seriously!)

We hired a winner and look where that got us!

Moyes will not return.

Gordon, I saw that gossip, ridiculous?, eh! 40 million for a 'good' keeper, be a terrible move. Anyhow, he wouldn't leave.

Kieran # 17, Pellegrini did take Villareal to the semis of the Champions League twice, and he almost got there, too, with Malaga, having been beaten by a very lucky Borussia Dortmund.

Not that I'm enthused by the man, but let's at least try to be fair.

I reckon we need some younger blood and, after reading Erik's very informative and astute article (and especially his further comments) from a more European viewpoint, it's gotta be RdB. If you haven't already, maybe you should have a gander guys...

Oh and hi everyone, it's my first day here...)))