Everton lodge opening bid for Grosicki

No show? or on show?

Hang fire until 10pm before upping your bid Mr. Moshiri!

He's a no show for Poland?

A left winger!! Noooooo I don't believe it.

Looks good but is he better than what we have - Geri, Kev, Lennon + youngsters. Never thought we were short on wingers we just need someone to get them on the game more often. Does anyone have any news on the Sporting Director appointment?

Ivan Perisic is the man!!!

He is quick and direct, looked good for Poland.He would be acceptable to me as he is in the Pericik mould.Mirallas and Deulofeu are both worth hanging on to plus this Pole.Lennon is average and would not be in a top clubs first team.

The money being quoted makes him really good value...we received more for Naismith !

I like the idea... we are not huge spenders yet. Just bigger!

Mirallas doesn't convince me. Deufelou doesn't convince me. Lennon is a good hard working squad player.
This guy has impressed me at the highest level. Hope it's more than speculation.

Whilst this guy would slot in right away I am not so sure he will be better than what we have in Delafeou.
Delboy has bags of talent and like a lot of Everton's talented players seemed to be under a cloud last season with RM at the helm.
Delboy might be worth keeping faith with to see how things change under BIG 'K'
However, if the report is true then I wouldn't hesitate at upping the offer as Grosicki is quick, strong and direct.

Geri blows hot and cold. Mirallas isn't a traditional winger. Lennon isn't top quality, good squad player but not a top level player.

Also, it's about Koeman setting up his team. Will watch the Poland game with more interest. Seems a good price.

Perisic would be my choice but would obviously cost far more and would be difficult to get. Must admit I haven't seen that much of Grosicki but others have likened him to Perisic - if that is a reasonable comparison he'll do for me!

Good squad player on first look and certainly not the marquee signing.

Lets only hope that we get the GK and MF positions filled with top quality soon.

Looks like Mandana is already gone.

James @ 2. It is meant to say he is "on show". We can all watch with some interest.

A left winger who works hard and would probably add more of a solid look to the midfield than Geri or Super Kev.
As Super Kev, I have often rated him as the second striker in a 4-4-2, as he is sometimes wasted on the wings.

Mark 11,

I know, just being daft. I like what I've seen of this guy and for £10m it's not a major risk, plus he's at an age where he's got a good few years left but should be in his pomp now.

What is it with some of you? Is he any better than what we have? He's 28... he's a left winger... no. Please we won't know how good he is till we see him play – just get behind the boy... IF he signs.

Not another 'winger obsessive' manager, surely?

He scores some really stunning goals as well as being quick.

We need a left winger, I don't know alot about this fellow, though.

Looked good to me, was surprised - as was the commentator - when he was taken off in one game having been their best player so far in the game.

Grosicki is decent, from the limited games I have seen, but if I had to choose, I'd probably rather have Perisic of Croatia, who plays left wing (and second striker) and can use both feet, plus Perisic works very hard indeed.

Of course, both would be nice.

This guy is highly rated and is very fast and direct. I reckon he will be a fantastic acquisition if we can get him for the money mentioned.

Looks another Kanchelskis to me with a very high work rate!!

I hope he his Phil, just as long as he plays them!

It's really simple. McGeady is shite. Deufelou and Mirallas have consistency and discipline issues. Lennon is a good squad player. This guy has looked good in a current tournament.

The former 'marquee signing' Yarmolenko has stank Euro 2016 out. I like players who do their job well. That's what this guy looks like to me.

The problem is.....?

Kev is not really a winger at all. He had never played on the wing till he came to us. He's a striker and should be judged on number of goals scored. He does score goals and he has got pace and may get the 2nd striker slot but will have to perform under this guy. It sounds to me like Koeman is keen on pace, quite rightly. I think lack of pace was one of our biggest problems under RM.

Don't think many here had heard of Payet, Kante or Mahrez before they came to the Premier, all 25 or over and now they are three of the most wanted players. Maybe he is good maybe not but if we sign him then Koeman had given the green light to get him. not seen much of him myself but quick and direct sounds good, and from what i'v seen of other Polish players they like to work hard.

I going to trust Koeman's judgement with regard to transfers. I reckon he knows a thing or two.

Are we really looking for £10 MM players who can't get into national squads?

If Koeman is a genius then maybe its good but perhaps we are still in small club mode.

@Martin #28 - turn on your TV

Poland XI v Portugal: Fabianski; Piszczek, Glik, Pazdàn, Jedrzejczyk; Blaszczykowski, Krychowiak, Maczýnski, Grosicki; Milik, Lewandowski

We look very weak on the left side so it's definitely a start. I expect Koeman to bring in a few players we know little about; he was very successful with this at the saints. I'd prefer Perisic though on the left and Deulofeu on the right.

He's just created a goal in the 2nd minute. Fantastic run and cross

Nice control and coss for them an in question.

Great run and picked out Lewandowski superbly. Very impressive

Well, he's just provided a beauty of an assist to put Poland up 1-0 on Portugal, so expect the price tag to start rising...

I would rather have Milk , very impressive!

Yes I like the Milikman too

I missed his assist, but since I been watching he's been rubbish ! Mirallas way way better!

David, that's usually the way it works. In fact, there is a mathematical formula for it:

Player's Total Performance - Good Plays = Aiden McGeady

He's like McGeady up to now; 1% sensation, 99% frustration

Not impressed.

Have to agree many players float under the radar with average clubs in Europe and then as soon as they hit the Prem. they make a name for themselves but for some it's only temporary.
Everton have had their share, one of them is Mirallas and who remembers Radzinski ?

Other than the assist he's looked pretty mediocre. Obviously RK sees something in him.

Grosiski not having the best of games, hope Koeman has been scouting him for a while and is not just buying a tournament tart, seen so many of these fail before.

Anyone comparing Grosicki to McGeady has never heard of the term "work rate".

Not been his best game, but he's looked good this tournament. Possibly a bit on the old side, but relatively cheap at 8m and could be a great impact player, whether starting or off the the bench.

Perm league is far easier for wingers like him than these euros.

He's not a flair player, but a hard working left winger, which we haven't got. Koeman has been watching him at Rennes all season, not just at the Euro's.

I'd be looking at only one player on show tonight and that's William Carvalho.

Great player Neil, though Id rather have Lewandowski ;)

Ha.... I know we have upped our financial prowess but I think Lewandowski is stretching it somewhat!

The guy coming on is a crackling player. A big yes for William Carvalho but it would take a massive coup

I've seen every Poland game and Grosicki has ran (very quickly) himself into the ground in every game.

Looked pretty tired/jaded early on tonight. I do believe we can sign better, younger players in that position.

Milik really has been poor again. He may be better than what we've seen in this tournament... but not impressed.

He's the Polish McGeady ! No thanks.

Trevor

Comparing one of the hardest working players I've seen at these Euros to one of the laziest "players" to have ever laced them up is poor form. In fact, McGeady is probably too lazy to lace up his own boots!

Grosicki can be hit and miss. He is also very fast, strong, and direct - pretty much the opposite of McGeady.

Ridiculous comparison...

If it is true, and RK is after him, then regardless of what we have seen in the Euro's & tonight got to have faith in RK.

Time to back the new gaffer. We can't crumble and start doubting his signings. He may be the perfect fit for what he wants to do with the team/squad for the forthcoming season, and beyond.

I will keep my opinion's on him till he has had a full season in a blue shirt.

Trevor#22 - Kanchelskis he ain't!

Neil 43# I wouldn't mind that Ronaldo fella!

On tonight's performance Peter I'd rather have Niasse !!

No better than we already have and Milik not up to it again think we should steer clear of both.

Amazing ! Portugal still to win a game in 90 minutes and they are into the semi-finals. Surely the cup has their name on it.

Oh my god what a comment here :-

On tonight's performance Peter I'd rather have Niasse !! OMG!

Comparing with McGeady, OMG!, what utter garbage, the guy has been pretty consistent in the tournament and has looked very useful, would be a great back up from Super Kev next season.

I have never known such a negative bunch of boneheads in my life, get off FM and FIFA, go outside and smell the fresh air its stifling your small amount of brain cells....

Thought he looked pretty average in the 2 games I have watched him closely and have to agree with those that compare him to McGeady.

I thought Kapustka who replaced him immediately looked a better prospect.

However we shouldn't judge after one or two games or a youtube cameo so I will leave it to RK to build his own squad.

I didn't see anyone in any game yet who looked as average as McGeady but you seriously cannot watch a game or three at a tournament and determine whether a player is good enough or not.

Going on his tournament so far Ronaldo would be hard pressed to get into our team. Shooting and free-kicks have been for the most part terrible and is absolutely not a team player.

RK will have scouts watching for up to a season to determine the quality of a player. There have been so many tournament flash-in-the-pans over the years who have slumped when transferred on a four game reputation.

Give RK a chance. I think the majority have been impressed by Moshiri's dealings so far so we should wait to see what RK can do as well.

He is left sided and pacy, so atleast we are pursuing an upgrade to what we have in that area. Mirallas is not a natural and neither is Lennon.

However, I do not think he has played well at this tournament and therefore the scouts must be going on his club form.

The fee mentioned is only a small outlay and one hopes he is a stop gap to a longer term solution, either from the Academy or elsewhere.

I always like the comment "He's only 10 million", are we all billionaires on here that can just throw money about?

I would much rather have a Morinho type manager who buys leagues rather than someone who is gambling on one tournament wonders.

Yarmalenko may have had a bad tournament but that does not make him a bad player, it just means he has had a bad tournament.

But if RK thinks he needs that type of player then the money is their, spend it on a tried, tested and proven Perisic.

I've been living in Poland for the last 18 years & have seen this player develop since he was a kid with Legia Warsaw. So in a way I have more insight to offer than what's been said so far. Believe me guys Grosicki is nowhere near good enough for us. He is Championship level at best.

Firstly, he is very erratic in his end product, and as such one of the most frustrating players you could wish for. All the comparisons with Niasse and McGeady are valid. In fact with end product he makes McGeady look like David Silva. In terms of his talent alone I am completely shocked that the new regime would consider this player. Even the Poles make fun of him for being so crap and every Pole I speak to here in Warsaw can't believe we are in for him.

Being linked to such a player definitely doesn't bode well for us. If there is one player we should go for in the current Polish team it is Krykowiak from Sevilla.

Secondly, and perhaps most importantly, Grosicki has serious questions hanging over his head regarding his off-field behaviour. He is a serial gambler & spends a lot of time and money in casinos – he has a long history of trouble, often going awol for days & turning up late for training. If this news hasn't reached the club then I would be seriously worried about the new scouting set up.

Frankly, this player is trash, both on and off the pitch and I find it quite distressing to be linked with him. You've been warned. I wrote as much in the Echo's comments section to the original story by Kirkbride, but they didn't publish it.

Thanks Victor, good insight there. We need to stay away from this lad. Let's hope it is all just media speculation. Even for the foreign media it is easy to cook up these stories: a player does half-decent at the Euros, let's link him with the team that just got new ownership and seems to have money to spend. Sometimes I wish I was a football journalist, easiest job in the book.

I watched him as closely as you can do on the telly last night. He did provide a good early assist, then his passing went awry. Tracked back plenty to little end, and completely lost his man Sanches who scored.

Really wanted him to be Trevor Steven, but the guy he brought to mind was Ian Wilson.

Sounds like a Polish Van der Meyde from Victor's description.

I can't help thinking we missed a trick by not moving for Nathan Redmond at the £10m he joined Southampton for.

Whether Ronald has a real interest in this player only time will tell.
Having watched all Poland's Euro games I can only comment on, yes he works hard, but looks clumsy and rarely has the ball under control. Not as good as our current left berth occupants, and hopefully we keep well alone on this showing.

I think we have to bow to your greater insight Victor - and it sounds deeply worrying!

However, I have not heard Big Ron ever utter this guy's name - never mind that he has lodged an official bid for his signature.

We are being linked with a plethora of talent according to the rags and the internet.

The journos have to satisfy the insatiable appetites of their desperately eager and optimistic readers (and the demands of their editors who need their headlines to be bigger and more sensational than the red top rag lying beside it on the rack).

And the guys on the net ....? Most of them are spotty kids who only leave their rooms and their FIFA 16 games when their Mum's have screamed for the umpteenth time that their dinner is on the table.

A heady mixture of testosterone; pixilated pretend footy players; knocking one out to an episode of Game of Thrones whilst dressed as a medieval knave ...... and the odd joint do not give these wannabes an accurate insight into our new manager's plans (unless they've hacked into Ronnie's 'Plan A' doc on his iPad).

We will be linked to every man ... and no doubt their dogs. It's silly season and there is no one sillier than us for gobbling up their rubbish.

What is the collective noun for these idiots? 'Charlatan' will have to do.

Get ready for it ...... "Koeman bids £30 m for Charl Atan".

And yes .... I will read it.

Doesn't seem a clear improvement on Mirallas but guess we have to trust Ronnie's judgement.

Not many players have caught my eye at the Euros.

The likes of Witsel, Perisic, William Carvalho, Draxler and Sigurdsson would all be welcomed by me.

On another note I see City have got Nolito for£14m. We should have gone for him when he single handedly destroyed us in a friendly a few years back. Very useful player.

Sam, I would go much further and declare that Mirallas is 10 times the player Grosicki will ever be. What's more, why are we looking at a 2- year-old extremely-average-at-best player plying his trade for a second grade French team to propel us to greater things? Maybe it is simply paper talk. I certainly hope so.

As I said Krykowiak is the diamond, although rumour has it he is on his way to PSG. Milik has something but he's inconsistent and didn't shine in France.

There is a young guy (19 I think) Kapustka, who is pushing for that left wing berth. Could be a prospect but then again we have a great crop of youngsters waiting in the wings.

This guy has started every game and he did tire towards the end but his work rate was first class.He covered back whenever Portugal had the ball and he would be a dream for any team mate playing full back behind him.

At the money quoted he is a really good buy and what fans have not noticed is that prior to this last game he was Poland's best forward in the earlier games.

By the way, Kanchelskis had plenty of poor displays and never checked back defensively.

I'll believe this and any other rumour the minute they walk in the door at Finch Farm.

I think the club will not make any comments at all until deals are done. And I suspect deals are getting done in private even as we speak. And hopefully we'll be delighted and even surprised.

This is the professional way to do it.

Jim Potter (69) I have it on good authority that Koeman will put in bids for exciting new prospects Swind Ler and Des Ep-Tion. You read it here first! I just hope we stay away from that fragile winger Si Knote.

Peter @ 59. Firstly, you need to learn to read pal before subjecting anyone to "bonehead" slurs.

If you look at my comment @56 it states: "On tonight's performance Peter I'd rather have Niasse"

This was in direct response to PETER @55 who said "I wouldn't mind that Ronaldo fella"

It's what's called a "tongue in cheek" comment and one which clearly , someone with half a brain cell would realise (your words not mine)

I await an apology

Chris (74), I agree. With anyone we buy, and indeed with Koeman himself, it is not just about the individual's talents but how the whole thing fits together. I don't think we'll make the mistake of lobbing money around for the sake of it only to end up with mismatched egos.

Someone like Grosicki might not be dazzling but might fit well into our planning..

Trevor (73) and Tony (77):

Guys, I fully get the fact that you want to trust koeman in this matter - after all what else have you got to go on? However, take it from me that this player is absolutely not Everton class. In fact 3 years ago he was deemed to be worth 𧺬,000 and I can tell you without fear of contradiction that he hasn't improved at all from that time- and now he's worth 㾶 million? It's obvious that the market is completely inflated but he would be a total waste of 𧴜,000 never mind 㾶 million.

On reflection, I suspect that if koeman is genuinely interested in him the recommendation probably comes from Leo Beenhaker, who spent time with Grosicki as manager of the Polish national team around 8 years ago.

Niasse looks like a cast-iron example of terrible scouting and research & signing Grosicki would be an even bigger crime. NSNO

Anyone can be justified in saying that Grosicki isn't good enough for Everton, and we should be looking at better, younger options.

Anyone comparing him to McGeady hasn't got a bloody clue what they're watching!

Thanks Victor. As it happens, I am not greatly impressed from the bits I've seen.

Fingers crossed.

As far as wingers go, 99.9% of them are inconsistent.

To get a consistently effective winger, you're talking over £40m, and still no guarantee.

Look at Hazard, Pedro, De Bruyne this year (all elite wingers) a Hazard and Pedro have been consistently average, while De Bruyne has been hit and miss. The less said about Raheem, the better!

I'm not advocating signing this guy, just a reality check.

Christopher, I don't claim to know much but I can safely say that on this matter I really know what I'm talking about. There are two players in the Polish national team that I wouldn't let anywhere near our club and one of them is this guy. And I promise you that I've been saying this for years about Grosicki. Over here he is simply a laughing stock with a really bad off-field reputation. Steer well clear.

I've only seen him a couple of times but Aaron Lennon is just as good if not better than this player, I think Lennon is very underrated by lots of Blues fans.

A piece in the Guardian about the Polish team states that Grosicki had a major gambling problem, but that he is over this now. They've also scored him a very creditable 7/10 for each of his first 4 appearances in Euro 2016.

Watched him with interest last night. Seems to be a very direct winger. Laid on early goal, but scorned 2 good shooting chances from close in by electing to pass - to no one in particular. Seemed to be very left footed, but only chose to shoot with right foot.

I'll take Victor's word. Stay clear... sounds like trouble. And Trevor comparing him to Kancho who was absolutely fantastic for us is ridiculous.

Yes, he had his quite games but doesn't every player he lit up Goodison and plenty of away grounds with some superb displays. Now I normally agree with you, Trev, because you played at a good level, but sorry, I'm not having that one, so there.

Shouldn't sign anyone based on these tournaments, leave it to spurs who have a track record of wasting money on the latest big thing.

Wasn't particularly impressed with his display. But then again there wasn't a player on the pitch I was impressed with. Just a lot of huffing and puffing. After the 1st half both sides decided to keep it tight and go for penalties.

I wonder how many sides have gone home from tournaments thinking "if only we had tried harder". At least when Iceland and Wales come home they'll have no regrets and know they did the best they could.