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In The Athletic, Adam Crafton secured a wide-ranging interview with David Moyes in the USA as he struggles to balance his wishes for the Everton squad going forward with the constraints of various types that are limiting team rebuilding amidst challenging pre-season preparations for the new campaign. 

During this interview, Moyes details how pre-seasons have changed during his career — from players running laps wearing “bin bags” to “everything now being done with the ball” — while spelling out the need for many more signings if Everton are to build on his encouraging return to the club last season.

“The club are trying really hard to get the players I want and I’ve found it really difficult because in my last few years (in his previous job at West Ham United), I’ve been involved in European competition. It’s a bit easier when you’re a club in Europe. You get a better chance of attracting a lot of players. We’ve been in for a lot of really good players. Unfortunately, a lot them have said no at the moment.”

In respect of pre-season training: “I have mellowed over time but it’s still our job to get players in a condition where they can run with the opposition and ensure physically they’re not going to be outdone,” he says. “It plays a big part in modern football. The boys at Everton were already well-versed in being fit and healthy because they needed to be. With respect, we probably didn’t have the quality, but we tried to meet most of it with other elements, and that’s part of football as well.”

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Christy Ring
1 Posted 28/07/2025 at 17:09:30
So we have been trying to sign players, but it seems we're not a big enough club.

It's not going to be easy to attract big players; it's going to be a tough season ahead, if we can't get better players in.

Nick Page
2 Posted 28/07/2025 at 17:21:39
I'll say it again, Forest, Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth et al were not in Europe.

The club needs to be a lot more creative and analytical in its transfer business, rather than just “going for” players.

Josh Horne
3 Posted 28/07/2025 at 17:31:10
Expectations being managed.

Jack Harrison incoming.

I suppose Moyes has to say something in these interviews but this is depressing.

Andy Meighan
4 Posted 28/07/2025 at 18:17:19
There's a few on this site, and I'm probably only a little bit older than them, who think that we are still a big club; I've got news for them: we're not.

There's players out there who don't even know who we are, let alone want to sign for us. We haven't won nothing for 30 years, we've got lads who go every away game not even older than that, and yet the usual suspects ridicule other teams who feature constantly in the so-called holy grail of football, ie, the Champions League, something that we've never seen at Goodison.

Sorry, I've got news for them; we are a distant memory from yesteryear who basically just make the numbers up in the Premier League — a place, by the way, we are still lucky to be considering the shite we've had to watch over the last few years.

Yes, not good, is it? And I doubt it's changing any time soon.

Kunal Desai
5 Posted 28/07/2025 at 18:20:15
It's a crucial 3 weeks coming up. We need first-team players in before we play Leeds, not integrating them after 1 September.

Also, it begs the question: What have Moyes and TFG been doing since January? There is no DoF in place, yes a new recruitment team and CEO have been hired but surely there have been conversations and targets identified between Moyes and TFG in regards to new players during the last 6 months.

If TFG have told Moyes to wait until the new people are in place, then are these the right people for this club? They clearly are finding it a struggle to bring in those players.

Ian Bennett
6 Posted 28/07/2025 at 18:28:03
"We've been in for a lot of really good players. Unfortunately, a lot them have said no at the moment.”

That's all you need to know.

No one has been stuck on their hands. Effort has been made since Premier League certainty was gained. It's not Dithering Davey, we wouldn't be doing any better with Kevin Thelwell or any other shite posted.

Bottom line is: no player is going to move to Everton, or frankly any other club, until they've worked out that's the best offer on the table.

Neil Cremin
7 Posted 28/07/2025 at 18:30:30
For the want of sounding like a broken record, we should have kept Kevin Thelwell for continuity alone. He had done reasonably well under PSR restrictions; it would have been interesting to see what he could have done with a decent budget.

It was pure madness creating a brand new DoF structure where almost all the new faces didn't start until June.

Josh Horne
8 Posted 28/07/2025 at 18:43:53
Ian @6, but 3 players have come to Everton.

6 players to Sunderland, Burnley 10, Brighton 7, Leeds 7, Brentford 5.

Business is being done and the lack of European football doesn't appear to have been such an impediment elsewhere.

Ian Bennett
9 Posted 28/07/2025 at 18:56:56
How many of those players are better than the ones we've been linked with Josh?

Granit Xhaka for £30M commitment on a 3-year deal, when he's 33 in September? I'd be furious if we wasted that amount of money on a player like that.

We need better players, not just more bodies for the sake of it.

The window is still open, and the players we want in the main are still available.

Liam Mogan
10 Posted 28/07/2025 at 19:10:20
Whilst we do need better players, as the deadline approaches, we may end up bringing bodies for the sake of it, as the squad is not big enough.
Mike Gaynes
11 Posted 28/07/2025 at 19:14:25
Neil #7, I thought so too but the new owners knew who they wanted. Actually our new technical director and our new chief of scouting won't start for another month or so.

Josh #8, yeah, but look at who those clubs are signing. Run down the list and ask yourself how many are players you'd have wanted for us. Diarra for Sunderland? Yes. Couple others. But most of these signings were in single digits to fill out squads. We're not going that way.

Jay Harris
12 Posted 28/07/2025 at 19:18:07
Ian,

Xhaka is better than most of our midfield players, even at 33.

There are no excuses – the club knew what they had to do when they were planning on Young, Doucoure, Calvert-Lewin, Mangala, Lindstrom and Harrison being let go. Let alone the right-back we have been needing for over 3 years.

I am sick of hearing "We really tried but we can't get the players."

And the excuses: "We have to wait till 1 July because of PSR" – Rubbish.

"It's only pre-season, it doesn't matter" – Rubbish.

"We have until 2 September" – Deary me, we could be 9 points down by then, much worse than a PSR deduction.

In the meantime, we are charging highly inflated sums for Club membership, tickets for the new stadium, and for the new kits.

So come on, "new" recruitment team – get your finger out and sell the club to players that will want to come here.

There are surely better players than we have that want to come here.

Ryan Holroyd
13 Posted 28/07/2025 at 19:23:47
Well said, Ian.

The club could have signed any of the players Burnley have signed but they wouldn't improve us at all.

Ian Bennett
14 Posted 28/07/2025 at 19:41:17
I am happy to judge come the start of the season and at the end of the window.

Xhaka might be better than what we have now, but the idea that we should have done what Sunderland have done is not what I want to see.

For us to move forward, we need better quality. To get possession of the ball and carve teams open, we need better players.

I am sure we will miss out on some targets. But this has to be better than a diet of picking up bang average players or those over the hill.

Bill Watson
15 Posted 28/07/2025 at 19:54:21
Some of the comments on here are totally ridiculous. We've obviously being trying to sign some players who, for one reason or another, don't want to come.

Hopefully, the days of attracting such players with silly pay are over. That's why we nearly ended up in administration. Yes, I'm disappointed we haven't had more incomings… but we have to be patient,

I'm with Ian. I'll judge it on 2 September.

Josh Horne
16 Posted 28/07/2025 at 20:04:15
I'm sure we will get players in, Ian, but my fear is that the familiar negative messaging signals that, in the end, the quality of player arriving will be no better than those you refer to yourself, already signed by our competitors who similarly cannot offer European football.

If that is the best we can do, then so be it. I'd still prefer that the manager was more upbeat in his media engagements and talked the club up.

Danny O'Neill
17 Posted 28/07/2025 at 20:11:12
Moyes upbeat, Josh?!!! We've known him long enough now and he has to play the game in fairness.

Back to your earlier post, I don't really care how many players those clubs have signed or who they are. That looks like a numbers game.

We could do that, but I'm assuming that we are trying for the right players who can improve the quality of the squad, as well as add depth.

Josh Horne
18 Posted 28/07/2025 at 20:22:00
I agree with your point regarding number of players, Danny. For context, I was pointing to the evidence that contradicts Ian's suggestion that:

"Bottom line is no player is going to move to Everton, or frankly any other club, until they've worked out that's the best offer on the table."

I don't think he does have to be negative and manage expectations, that's just him.

Danny O'Neill
19 Posted 28/07/2025 at 20:26:23
Fair point and well made, Josh. I agree with you.

We have a manager who did very well last season, but we know and shouldn't be surprised by his demeanour.

Jimmy Carr
21 Posted 28/07/2025 at 21:09:51
We don't know what exactly went on behind the scenes, but the decision to part company with Kevin Thelwell looks a little bit more stupid with each passing week of non-activity in the transfer market.

Yeah, we can wait until the season is underway before truly judging, but the bottom line is he would have had numerous irons in numerous fires and had proved himself adept at playing the market.

When Moyes says 'we need 9 or 10 players.....' I have zero interest as his fingerprints were clearly all over that decision. Get on with it.

Neil Cremin
22 Posted 28/07/2025 at 21:12:11
Mike #11. Therefore the decision is even madder than I thought. Who is pulling the strings. This looks a bit rudderless to me.
I am hoping that some of those mentioned will come but with the opening games less than a month away, it would be imperative that some of those quality signings be on board to have some integration time with the squad. Loan signings and back up players I would be willing to wait. Need Right back, Right wing and a creative box to box midfielder at a minimum.
My biggest worry which I already outlined in threads at end of season is that bringing in 9-10 players is likely to disrupt rather than enhance the squad, hence retaining Keane, Patterson, Gana were important and dare I say it, I wouldnt be adverse to bringing back the much maligned Harrison and the Lindstrom who I think could benefit from a second loan spell with us. Hiding behind the parapet.
Stephen Williams
24 Posted 28/07/2025 at 23:04:52
With having to sell the family silver (ok, more like the family lead), having spent next to nothing, staying the right side of the ridiculous psr and amazingly staying in the PL, Thelwell did a truly amazing job.
He was ‘rewarded’ with being let go. Not only madness, but also crass disgusting behaviour.
I truly believe that he would have done a fine job with some money. The one proper professional appointment we made in the last 4 years and we ballsed it up! Our loss is definitely Rangers gain.
Instead we are left with the most crucial transfer window without a proper recruitment team in place.
I just don’t get it.

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