Season › 2024-25 › News Everton may be looking to sign up Nathan Aké Michael Kenrick 21/08/2025 172comments | Jump to last Updated The club insider who incurred the wrath of David Moyes by daring to reveal the awful news of Jarrad Branthwaite's injury has bobbled up again on social media to convince us that Everton are working on a deal to sign Manchester CIty defender Nathan Aké. The loss of Branthwaite is distressing, and it certainly impacted Everton's poor overall performance against Leeds United on Monday, but would that be enough to persuade Everton to pursue the Dutch international who has made nearly 150 appearances for Man City? The 30-year-old has seen his opportunities for playing time under Pep Guardiola drastically reduced, however, and he only made 10 Premier League appearances last season. It remains to be seen if this latest transfer rumour has any legs… His contract with Man City runs for another 2 years. However, according to a new update from the BBC’s Giulia Bould, Nathan Ake is not a transfer target for Everton during the final days of the summer transfer window, despite reports claiming otherwise. Reader Comments (172) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Sam Hoare 1 Posted 21/08/2025 at 07:33:58 Ake is a good player. And I think Monday night showed how much we could use a defender who is comfortable on the ball. But as with KDH I still find it a strange (and slightly unimaginative) move given other more glaring priorities at 6 and RW and RB. I'm also curious to see what the cost is (yes it matters!).Perhaps signing him would be a sign that Moyes intends to play O'Brien at RB all season as Ake provides an alternative 3rd choice CB if not needed at LB or DCM where I actually think Ake could do a great job, though I'd be surprised if Moyes was buying him for that. Andrew Ellams 2 Posted 21/08/2025 at 08:49:15 If we're after Ake then I don't think we'll be seeing much of Anzou this season.The Leon Bailey deal to Roma includes a £19m option to buy. Why are we missing these deals? James Marshall 3 Posted 21/08/2025 at 08:52:49 The only sites reporting anything about us being interested in Ake are the ones run by some bloke in his bedroom.They're all fan sites. Not one of them is legit. Andrew Ellams 4 Posted 21/08/2025 at 09:01:10 Bobble is reporting the Ake deal, James. Paul Hewitt 5 Posted 21/08/2025 at 09:18:24 Why are we going after a CB? We need a RB and RW. What the hell's going on? Christine Foster 6 Posted 21/08/2025 at 09:22:42 Swap plus money with Branthwaite going the other way? Nah..that will never happen.. Kunal Desai 7 Posted 21/08/2025 at 09:26:25 Why do we need Ake? Is Branthwaite out for longer than expected? Otherwise makes no sense. I'm sensing that something isn't right between Moyes, Kinnear and the rest of this 'transfer committee'. John Hall 8 Posted 21/08/2025 at 09:26:39 Branners is becoming a bit of a sick note. Shall we sell now while we can still get good money for him and take Ake as his replacement? Although Ake has spent quite a bit of time in the sick room himself... Dave Lynch 9 Posted 21/08/2025 at 09:33:42 Andrew@2.Maybe the player wanted to move to Roma.Not everyone wants to play for us. John Williams 10 Posted 21/08/2025 at 09:36:24 If the Ake rumours are true, he is better than we already have. Can play CB, left back and he can score goals.Would he be better than Mykolenko at left-back? Yes.Would he be an improvement on Keane? Yes.Man City and Pep have said City have too many players and need to cut down the squad; I am certain there could be a deal there. Pat Kelly 11 Posted 21/08/2025 at 09:43:36 Never mind whether the rumour has legs, it's Aké I'm concerned about. John Hall 12 Posted 21/08/2025 at 09:47:06 I think he may be a little better than Garner or Seamus at LB, that's for sure! Stephen Davies 13 Posted 21/08/2025 at 09:51:04 If we are considering Ake, surely it has to be a purchase as I don't think you can loan more than one player from the same club. John Williams 14 Posted 21/08/2025 at 10:06:55 Nathan Ake has scored 10 goals for Man City, which includes PL and Champions League. Has also scored 5 goals for his country, Netherlands.Everton could play a higher line with the above player, he has pace and would connect our midfield and defence better. Hopefully free up Grealish and others going forward.We currently need experienced players at this stage, build a better league position, young players can then follow over the next couple of years. Tony Abrahams 15 Posted 21/08/2025 at 10:21:43 The more experience you have got then the easier it will be to blood young hungry talented footballers like Harrison Armstrong, into the team, imo John. Keith Gleave 16 Posted 21/08/2025 at 10:23:15 Bailey pulled up with muscle injury during first training session. Brian Harrison 17 Posted 21/08/2025 at 10:26:04 Rumour has it that we are back in for Dibbling and also in talks with City for Nathan Ake. To my mind, these are both David Moyes type buys if Kinnear can get them over the line; not sure that was the case with Aznou and Barry. Ake can play in a number of positions along the back line so gives Moyes more options. Should we sign Dibbling, I hope the fans will be patient with him and not expect miracles because of the fee. Remember the player can't control how much Southampton want and what we end up paying if we do get him, although I see no point in putting in another bid unless you are confident of getting the deal done.Read Jake O'Brien's piece in the Echo were he says the whole team were well below what was expected and said they are determined to put matters right this weekend, I am sure we will see a much better performance than the Leeds game. Steve Cotton 18 Posted 21/08/2025 at 10:27:31 Left footed defender with pace and aggression what's not to like.. our new right winger the way things are going Neil Lawson 19 Posted 21/08/2025 at 10:34:40 Subject to overall cost, this is precisely the sort of loan signing we should be pursuing. Ian Wilkins 20 Posted 21/08/2025 at 10:41:06 Ake is a capable player, probably first choice LB, and cover for CB. Given injury status we need this. Pity he doesnt play RB too, where we need a specialist with OBrien option. Anzou isnt ready, that was the reason for his leaving Bayern. He thinks he is, they said he wasnt. Maybe we now agree with them. I agree with TFG wanting to invest in part in youth, develop them. Cheaper plus potential resale value. But the scouting network has to find the right ones. We cant afford a number of younger players who are a long way off being ready to play some part. They also need to be blooded alongside experienced heads. Get the right mix. If we persevere with Dibling and haggle to the wire, then were going to need another defensive midfielder to sit back and win the ball. Cant just rely on the ageing and Afcon bound Gana. Lining up his replacement is key. With Dibling wed have a lot of ball players and dribblers but not a lot of graft in midfield. Ian Bennett 21 Posted 21/08/2025 at 10:51:53 Ste, it would be permanent, as it's one loan per club, as I understand it. Joe McMahon 22 Posted 21/08/2025 at 10:56:43 I like him a lot. Get this done Everton by tomorrow; otherwise, Sunday's result may not be the one we want. Everton and August, eh??? Mark Taylor 23 Posted 21/08/2025 at 11:00:17 Subject obviously to cost and a medical (he has had his share of injuries), Ake fills one of the holes that need filling and enables us to use O'Brien as back-up RB.It would be a good signing, the sort of quality player we need. But as others have said, it must be accompanied as an absolute priority by a RB and RW, and these need to be first choice options, not fillers of promising youngsters. Ideally also a more defensive minded CM.I'm not remotely convinced by our central attackers but we don't have the resources to fix that this window and will just have to go with what we have. Andrew Merrick 24 Posted 21/08/2025 at 11:11:53 Very interesting this one, level headed, left sided, multiple role, Premier League proven, could slot straight in, fantastic squad player but probably a first pick.The devil will be in the detail. Colin Malone 25 Posted 21/08/2025 at 11:12:34 Players do want to come to Everton, unfortunately they don't want to come to Moyes. Andrew Ellams 26 Posted 21/08/2025 at 11:13:19 Colin, his time at West Ham suggests that's nonsense. Lester Yip 27 Posted 21/08/2025 at 11:16:00 30 y.o still have a good 5 years for CB. But this move then what happens to Keane? Loan him out? Mike Powell 28 Posted 21/08/2025 at 11:16:01 Ake is a no-brainer, he can cover different positions along the back line.He is good on the ball, and can pass to a team mate, which we couldn't do against Leeds. I hope this is true, but wouldn't hold my breath. He will probably end up at Forest. Danny O'Neill 29 Posted 21/08/2025 at 11:21:07 Lester, it's about having strength in depth. As we witnessed on the US tour and this past week or so, it only takes an injury or two (Branthwaite, Tarkowski and now Mykolenko), and we are patched up at the back. Stephen Davies 30 Posted 21/08/2025 at 11:27:40 Guilia Bould says RW and RB are the targets – no interest in Ake NT Andrew Merrick 31 Posted 21/08/2025 at 11:28:28 Re the Bobble.As much as we like to feed on these rumours, are they bad for the club's chances of getting the player?Moyes is pissed with the leaks on injuries, and I get that – why give opposing teams a heads up?Some transfer rumours may alert other clubs, affect prices... We don't have any solid detail yet, but this one is now open to rival bids if it's got legs. Steve Brown 32 Posted 21/08/2025 at 11:29:06 We need a right-back, so let's buy a left-side centre-back. Tony Abrahams 33 Posted 21/08/2025 at 11:31:21 Players would rather play in London, rather than Liverpool: This obviously doesn't apply to our neighbours.Players aren't interested in our new stadium, they are more interested in playing in Europe: This obviously doesn't apply to the three players who have left teams who are playing in Europe, to sign for Everton.This must also apply for people saying players don't want to play for David Moyes.My guess is that TFG are very prudent businessmen and, although this is not a bad thing – especially when you remember the mess we found ourselves in with PSR, I believe that success to our new owners won't really involve them needing Everton to be challenging the big teams.They have purchased Everton to make money, rather than to make us great again. With queues around the Goodison block with people queuing for Mansfield tickets, and my son informing me he was in line to be dealt with at 4:50 pm today if he wanted to stay on line and wait from 10 o'clock this morning for his own tickets, I do hope they realise that, if they put enough time, money and effort into it, they could definitely start helping to make Everton great once again. Derek Knox 34 Posted 21/08/2025 at 11:33:18 Ambivalent over this… Yes, good player who could well fit in, apparently in more than one position. If this has mileage is there enough leeway in the kitty to get this done? Will it sacrifice RW and RB solution?Furthermore, I know injuries can't be foreseen or predicted, but if it were to materialise, why did we give Keane another year? Peter Moore 35 Posted 21/08/2025 at 11:58:39 Good player, but I agree RW, RB and also LB are more important. Mykolenko is great when in form and fitness, but if Aznou isn't ready to step in and step up, that's a problem. May we and Davey Moyes be grinning in late evening on 1 September. 7pm that day, the window closes, isn't it? Maybe some after-hours deal sheets coming through again, but hopefully all done and sorted by the deadline. Before the start of the season would have been far preferable, of course, but PSR and our position versus teams higher in the league and in Europe, it may come down to the proverbial wire again of course. May the pieces fall into place as needed. UTFT. Colin Malone 36 Posted 21/08/2025 at 12:15:11 Andrew. West Ham got shut of Moyes, why? Stephen Davies 37 Posted 21/08/2025 at 12:28:20 That Ake information has caught the internal leak at Everton.Be interesting if it is dealt with hush hush or wether it spills out into the public!Be a huge shock once people find out who it is…… Neil Lawson 38 Posted 21/08/2025 at 12:30:59 I note a comment above so I checked. This can not be a loan as only 1 player from any one club. It would have to be a purchase. Potentially, therefore, those suggesting this story is wide of the mark are most likely correct. Andrew Ellams 39 Posted 21/08/2025 at 12:42:20 Colin because they thought they could do better and have gone 0/2 so far. Bill Watson 40 Posted 21/08/2025 at 12:45:32 Peter #35The transfer window doesn't close; it slams shut! Clive Rogers 41 Posted 21/08/2025 at 12:47:37 Just read that spending in this window has reached £2.37 billion which is a record. We are being left behind by clubs like Forest who have spent £140M and are not finished. Get your fingers out EFC. Brian Harrison 42 Posted 21/08/2025 at 12:52:42 Julia Bould, who I think works for the club in some capacity, has just been on twitter to say that Everton aren't interested in Nathan Ake. Also it's rumoured that, having lost Eze to Arsenal, Spurs are preparing to make a bid for Dibling. Andrew Ellams 43 Posted 21/08/2025 at 12:54:00 Brian she's a journo on BBC radio. Sean Kelly 44 Posted 21/08/2025 at 12:55:00 Can we put a sign up on side of the new stadium saying we are looking for:player Aplayer Band let Forest know but only after we have checked the leaker in the Mersey. FFS Sean Kelly 45 Posted 21/08/2025 at 13:01:33 Can someone please remind of the marquee signing we have signed this window. It's hardly Travers is it? Ian Wilkins 46 Posted 21/08/2025 at 13:03:28 I can't recall many transfer windows when I've thought we've done a good job there… maybe the one when we sneaked Lukaku at the death…I hoped for better under new owners, I know we can't match some for spending, but more ingenuity, more guile, addressing the right squad issues with a blend of experience and youth. Thus far, it's been very underwhelming. James Newcombe 47 Posted 21/08/2025 at 13:12:18 Spurs in for Dibling (gulp) Steve Brown 48 Posted 21/08/2025 at 13:16:08 This is shades of Colleen Rooney.They probably told the suspected mole they were signing Ake to see if it appeared on the Bobble. Derek Knox 49 Posted 21/08/2025 at 13:29:05 Ambivalent over this. Yes, good player who could well fit in, apparently in more than one position. If this has mileage, is there enough leeway in the kitty to get this done? Will it sacrifice RW and RB solution?Furthermore, I know injuries can't be foreseen or predicted, but if it were to materialise, why did we give Keane another year? Ernie Baywood 50 Posted 21/08/2025 at 13:35:42 Tough one. We know the right model is players who are either young so they have improvement in them or at least far enough short of 30 that they'll have some resale value. Ake is obviously neither but we're at the point of struggling to put a team out and, positionally, he fits exactly what we need. All comes down to the price and the wages. There's a point where this becomes value. Dave Abrahams 51 Posted 21/08/2025 at 13:40:47 Steve (48). I think Colleen's sparring partner started some rumours the other day by suggesting Everton sign her partner. God help him, stuck with her. Mind you, he might get rid of his frustration on our opponents instead of her and score a few. Derek Knox 52 Posted 21/08/2025 at 13:58:43 Dave A, Rebekah de Moan Eh ? :-) Pat Kelly 53 Posted 21/08/2025 at 14:01:09 I fell for the rumour that we had new owners who were backing the manager in the transfer market. Raymond Fox 54 Posted 21/08/2025 at 14:25:33 Do I want him in the squad? Yes… but it depends how much he costs and how much money we have left to spend.Very good players should be able to play well in a few positions but he's not really what we are desperate for, is he?I've said before, if Moyes won't play certain players, get them sold; if we can get a few million for them, do it. Derek Knox 55 Posted 21/08/2025 at 14:27:21 Jeez, Pat, how could you?Mind you, between you and I… I did too! :-) Bill Gall 56 Posted 21/08/2025 at 14:49:28 Great — after nearly 2 seasons without a decent RB and RW, still no positive movements to sign anyone.Instead, we just hear about left-sided players, and while we are dithering, other teams are strengthening. Ian Bennett 57 Posted 21/08/2025 at 15:09:13 🗞️Nathan Ake is not a target for Everton. Everton remain focused on securing a Right Winger and Right Back this Summer(Source - Giulia Bould, BBC)It was mole hunting. Great spot. Sam Hoare 58 Posted 21/08/2025 at 15:27:31 Ian, Giulia Bould just passes on what the club wants. Not sure that categorically means that we are not in for Ake at all. She said we were out of Dibling race last week but now we're back in. Lots of games being played. Paul Kossoff 59 Posted 21/08/2025 at 15:33:49 Sevilla's 23-year-old Spanish right-back, Jose Angel Carmona, available. Richarlison told by Spurs he can go.Harvey Elliott, 22, off to RB Leipzig. Leeds sign another striker. Bournemouth make winger Adli their seventh signing. Arsenal highjacked Eze from going to Spurs; now Spurs are after Dibling. Meanwhile, Everton sit and ponder, Moyes wakes up and tells press he's been contemplating his navel. Asked about transfers, Moyes says, "Say what?" Angus writes postcards to his mate Masters telling him the Mersey waters are a bit murky and he won't be here long.B&Q tell The Friedkin Group, "Sorry, no more blue paint, but we have slate and concrete gray." Meanwhile, the Everton squad tell Moyes that, like him, they don't know their arses from their elbows. Ian Bennett 60 Posted 21/08/2025 at 15:39:46 Probably Sam.Although I can't see Everton paying him £160k a week for the next 2 years of his contract, or the £20-25m to get him out of City (as I don't think we can loan him) for a player that turns 31 next birthday.I like him, and would take him if we could also get priority positions fill as well (which I doubt). Nick Page 61 Posted 21/08/2025 at 15:44:01 Lol, Paul. The club is an absolute basket case. I often wondered if getting relegated would have been beneficial longer term as it would have cleared out the dead wood. But it was always unthinkable. Anyway, here we are, a few more dead woods later. Disgrace of a football club. Steve Cotton 62 Posted 21/08/2025 at 15:47:03 Great news fellow blues, after a week of fuck-all good news, Davy Moyes is pleased to announce that he thinks he has found his mole. It was Agnes in the canteen all along, earwigging...For fuck's sake, sign a right winger. Stop fucking about.. Andrew Merrick 63 Posted 21/08/2025 at 15:47:04 I did wonder if this was a mole hunt, Moyes said he would find the leak. Mike Doyle 64 Posted 21/08/2025 at 15:54:19 According to his LinkedIn profile, Dave Prentice (formerly of the Red Echo) has been PR manager at Everton for nearly 4 years.Can anyone recall hearing anything from him in that time? Sam Hoare 65 Posted 21/08/2025 at 16:07:18 Ian, yeah its not a transfer Id want at anywhere near those numbers certainly. Does feel an unlikely move unless it was a loan which is impossible as weve already got Grealish from them. Unless they are eyeing up a new CB and want to do a deal to cut numbers. Even then wages would seem problematic. Raymond Fox 66 Posted 21/08/2025 at 16:10:18 I shouldn't encourage you Paul but thats one of your better ones. Andrew Merrick 67 Posted 21/08/2025 at 16:10:41 Has the bobble burst? Billy Shears 68 Posted 21/08/2025 at 16:21:50 A decent enough player who can slot in anywhere in our back line.But I am more concerned about the Gooners going for Eze... as I'm pretty sure if that happens then Palace won't fuck about going for Dibling! Mike Corcoran 69 Posted 21/08/2025 at 16:22:04 Those Uche from Getafe rumours,Kid has been playing CF lately but seems to have done a job at DM and AM over the past few seasons so easy to see why hes linked for versatility. Looks good on YouTube of course! Hed probably be counted as 3 new signings then. Paul Kossoff 70 Posted 21/08/2025 at 16:27:38 Nick and Ray, I do wonder why I support a club that brings me so much sadness. Perhaps a poll to ask just why, so many of us do follow this, as Nick said, "basket case"? Like our Davey boy, I do wish I could just sit and contemplate my navel, especially on match days. And like Moyes, my excuse would be, "I don't know my arse from my elbow!" 😕 Josh Horne 71 Posted 21/08/2025 at 16:30:58 Signing Ake would just confirm that there is no transfer strategy, either that or there are concerns about Branthwaite.Why is it so hard for this club to buy a right-back? Dave Abrahams 72 Posted 21/08/2025 at 16:40:55 Steve (62),If Moyes had found the mole, the dithering dickhead will bury it alive to get rid of it! Sean Mitchell 73 Posted 21/08/2025 at 16:47:26 It's bullcrap. Dibling off to Palace now. Everton, the Spurs of the north. Brian Harrison 74 Posted 21/08/2025 at 17:01:16 Completely different topic, but I have been reading Stan Collymore on Twitter – not somebody I usually pay any attention to... But he was talking about player contracts and how they work. It was a complete revelation. He said if you take a player on a 4- or 5-year contract on £100k per week, the club will pay him £50k per week and the other £50k will be paid in lump sums. But the really interesting bit is if the club sold him say 2 years into his 5-year contract, and provided the player hasn't asked for a transfer, the selling club have to pay what's owed in his contract in full, plus any bonuses that are due. He also said in some cases the selling club will still pay part of his wages. So it's no wonder the likes of Issak won't put in a transfer request as that could cost him maybe £30 to £40M.I never knew that the selling club had to pay up his contract in full if he never asked for a transfer. Christy Ring 75 Posted 21/08/2025 at 17:15:46 Sean nothing concrete regarding Dibling, still available, but if he does sign for Palace and we don't bring in a top winger, our new owners have a lot to answer for. I see where Bailey injured again in training with Roma, some on here disappointed we didn't go for him, but that was his big problem at Villa, injury prone. George Cumiskey 76 Posted 21/08/2025 at 17:21:11 Doesn't anyone think that a lot of players won't come to Everton, especially attacking ones, because of David Moyes? Because he stifles their natural attacking play with his "Mustn't lose and hope to nick a goal" tactics. Ian Bennett 77 Posted 21/08/2025 at 17:24:08 The bonus payments are also significant. Steve Warnock tells the tale of missing out on Champions League bonus, as Rafa picked a Spanish player instead for the bench.Ryan Bertrand was on the other day that his base was £35k per week at Chelsea, but in a successful season it was nearer twice that sum with win, apearence bonuses etc. Aaron Lennon was on a mad appearence bonus at Leeds when he made it young. Brendan McLaughlin 78 Posted 21/08/2025 at 17:27:28 George #76,Grealish has arrived. It was also generally reported that Dibling wanted to come to Everton but the two clubs couldn't agree a fee. Ian Bennett 79 Posted 21/08/2025 at 17:36:40 George - how many top players signed under Carlo or Silva? It isn't just Moyes that can't attract players.It appears a club thing, ask Giroud's Mrs. George Cumiskey 80 Posted 21/08/2025 at 17:58:59 Well, lads, we'll soon know if Dibling chooses Palace over us and if we don't sign any genuine good attacking players before the deadline. George Cumiskey 81 Posted 21/08/2025 at 18:04:21 And Ian, Carlo signed Mina, Doucouré and Jesus who were top players at that time. Bobby Thomas 82 Posted 21/08/2025 at 18:17:50 George #76It's mainly because we've been absolutely atrocious for nearly 15 years now. Tom Bowers 83 Posted 21/08/2025 at 18:26:21 If it's more than a rumour, then Yes, get him. He can play left-back and Garner is not the one we want there.For God's sake, Everton, do something now before another rot sets in.The new lad may be injured but may not be ready anyway from what I saw against Roma. Ian Bennett 84 Posted 21/08/2025 at 18:39:31 Turned down by Gabriel, turned down by Giroud, and plenty of others.The list is short of class players we've signed in their prime, and some of those are debatable. Everton have struggled to attract top class talent.This isn't a Moyes issue. It's haunted the club for the entire Premier League era, and why we've come precisely nowhere. Ashley Krotosky 85 Posted 21/08/2025 at 18:48:28 Brian #74I could be wrong, but I would have thought the cost of outstanding wages would be reflected in the purchase price.Another thought to float:Whilst I realise that LB cover is 'only' a medium-high priority (unless Mykolenko is out for an extended period) I was also wondering if there was an angle in trying to prise (28-year-old) Ben Chilwell away from Chelsea? He is one of a bunch they are trying to offload. I would have thought he has hopes of a return to the national squad (like JG) – in which case, attitude shouldn't be a problem, and who knows, could persuade him to lower wage demands. Could he even be our other loan signing? Paul Hewitt 86 Posted 21/08/2025 at 19:14:04 Ian @84. Giroud wanted to sign for us. It was his wife that refused to move up north. Andrea Jacobs 87 Posted 21/08/2025 at 19:17:48 What is the problem with PSR? Stop worrying about it. If go you over it by £500k or £50m, you're looking at an easily rectifiable points deduction. We need to build a team. It's not cheating. We actually need to do it. Break the rules and deal with the consequences, no one will go to prison, this is not a serious business, it's just football. Why aren't we allowed to spend £150M on players if other teams have spent way over double that? None of this is about fairness or accountability, it's about control and power. We have to transgress and break the rules slightly with a bit of ruthlessness or we will be stuck in this position forever. There's nothing to be afraid of. Show some savvy and don't just hand over the books this time ‘round, Moshiri-style; the suave financial operator that he was. Thanks for the stadium, anyway, Moshiri. We need Ake and Dibling, and a few others, so get them. Jack Convery 88 Posted 21/08/2025 at 19:25:31 If we can't afford Dibling, why not go after either, Hugh, Pugh, Barney Magrew, Cuthbert and Grubb? Any of those lads know how to put out a fire – and there were plenty of those on Monday Night. This transfer window is really, really getting to me now!! Ian Bennett 89 Posted 21/08/2025 at 19:31:33 Possibly Paul, but that's still not signing. We have a problem signing top players. Weve probably spent a £1B in the Premier League era gross, and the number of top class players would struggle to make an 11 spanning nearly 35 years. Andrew James 90 Posted 21/08/2025 at 19:34:47 He's a good athlete and would be useful cover at the back. Ashley @85,Chilwell is an interesting idea. He ain't going to get into the England squad without playing regularly and seems to be one of those who has fallen foul of Chelsea's peculiar transfer strategy. Danny O'Neill 91 Posted 21/08/2025 at 19:37:05 If there is any truth in Ake, then it would be a sensible here-and-now signing. It gives us more options in defence, although I think this might mean Moyes being tempted to keep O'Brien at right-back.Dibling still seems to be on. I've not seen anything concrete about the Palace or Tottenham rumours, so as it stands, probably Facebook and social media speculation. Neil Cremin 92 Posted 21/08/2025 at 20:55:17 For me, this would indicate that Branthwaite's injury is more serious than we are being told.I always liked Ake and thought we should have gone for him when he was at Bournemouth. Mark Boullé 93 Posted 21/08/2025 at 20:58:56 I can't believe a whole week has pretty much elapsed, with every authority figure at the club well aware of what we needed even before Monday night. And nothing, not even the merest hint of a believable rumour.What in God's name are we doing?! Has it escaped their attention there's a very significant game on Saturday, the first home league fixture in HDS?! And we will go into it, after a week of accomplishing sod all, with no right side to the team whatsoever! I am boiling with fury now! There must be hundreds, if not thousands, of perfectly decent right-backs and right-wingers in the world's top leagues. Sign Players Now!!!! Jim Wilson 94 Posted 21/08/2025 at 21:12:05 Well said Mark.My feelings exactly. Mike Gaynes 95 Posted 21/08/2025 at 21:28:58 Mark #93, "perfectly decent"? One of "hundreds, if not thousands"?No thanks. No way. Signing average, adequate, faces-in-the-crowd players like that is one reason we got in this mess in the first place. That's how we got Martina and El Ghazi and Maupay and Tosun.Not for me. I say sign good ones, the best we can get. That's how a mediocre, lower-half club gets better. Not by signing more mediocrity just to fill the holes, just because they're readily available. No more Delphs and Klaassens and Rondons. Buy quality or don't buy. Brendan McLaughlin 96 Posted 21/08/2025 at 21:37:21 Mark #93There are "hundreds and thousands" in baking... premier league quality footballers... not so much. Christy Ring 97 Posted 21/08/2025 at 21:39:15 Mike#95 Dunc said in his book, he told Big Sam not to buy Tosun, he wasn't good enough for the Premiership, and Brands was livid, Dunc told him to buy Rondon, who was in his prime then, Sam admitted after he should have listened to him. Mark Boullé 98 Posted 21/08/2025 at 21:40:46 But Mike - it would seem we have tried to get quality and have been to turned down, outbid etc left, right and centre. To the modern player who is unlikely to "know his history", we are just a poor, middle of the road premier league team with no success and a shiny stadium which is not alone going to make the recruiting difference. Would you rather spend half the season watching a team with no right hand side (which continuing situation would, in my view, put us in real danger of another desperate relegation battle), or accept that we may have to compromise in one or two positions just to give a semblance of balance to the team? Ernie Baywood 99 Posted 21/08/2025 at 22:05:28 Mark, they may well have to compromise... but you can probably do that on September 1st, not late August. Tony Abrahams 100 Posted 21/08/2025 at 22:07:56 Mike, you was talking sensibly about PSR, the other day, and you asked me did I expect everything to be covered, in one or two transfer windows.I answered no, because I know its going to take time, but I did say that I had expected the squad, to have been bolstered out a bit more by now.The problem with your last sentence@95, is that quality costs money and Everton, can only spend so much money, but at the same time, we definitely need a few more players.Wait and see, has frustratingly (to my partner) become my catchphrase, because every time she talks about her son, getting a transfer, I keep saying that anything can happen in football, so we can only wait and see.Although I havent got the greatest opinion of TFG, I think the only logical thing we can do is wait and see what the squad looks like when the transfer window closes, because only then will it be possible to judge them.I just hope I have got a little bit more confidence in them when the window finally shuts, then Ive got in them right now🤞 Ashley Krotosky 101 Posted 21/08/2025 at 22:08:55 Mark #93Just a tiny, pedantic point - you have the option of an extra day to seethe, and the club have an extra day to make progress in the market:- the game is on Sunday! Mark Boullé 102 Posted 21/08/2025 at 22:19:01 Ah, cheers Ashley! I need to pay closer attention haha! Stupidly kept Saturday afternoon free and agreed to play cricket on Sunday!There was me stupidly thinking Everton would get to play their first home game in the new ground at the traditional KO time... Laurie Hartley 103 Posted 21/08/2025 at 23:29:27 Buy Harvey Barnes from Newcastle and Trippier on loan. Or Tom Fellows from West Brom. Ian McAvoy 104 Posted 21/08/2025 at 23:33:12 Some things never change. All the best available players have or are moving to ambitious clubs like Forest and Villa. We are signing journeymen goalies to replace journeymen goalies. Ake wont come down the east Lancs cause hes a starter for city. To attract quality you need to be ambitious as a club and pay the market rate. The new owners havent said a thing about the clubs vision on the pitch. They got the club at a cut price. Moyes needs to start getting mad and forcing the ivory tower to get the bank card out. Get Dibling. Pay the money. Get a quality RB like the ex Arsenal boy who is in France and get a CF who isnt shite! Paul Kossoff 105 Posted 21/08/2025 at 23:49:58 Jack 88. Pugh! Pugh! Barney McGrew! Cuthbert! Dibble! Grubb!" Puppeteer Gordon Murray explained that "Pugh and Pugh are twins you must understand not Hugh, Pugh". Jeeeez I dispare!😁 I heard the latest transfer news is we are after two flower pot men, a weed and a Gardener with his own wellies, but Moyes wants the whole of the Tracy family, including brains to replace the new recruitment team. And I know the Trumpton lot put out fires, but the pot men and weed caused the smoke. Ashley Roberts 106 Posted 22/08/2025 at 01:05:24 What is going on at Everton. We are already 1 week into the season and we need another 5 players at least to add to our threadbare squad. I can see us going for a bunch of loan moves for players nobody but Everton is interested in. If we do not sign some quality defenders a right wing and another defensive midfielder I can see we are going to really struggle again. I thought the Friedkins were going to invest in the club. What has happened?? Derek Thomas 107 Posted 22/08/2025 at 01:25:42 Paul @ 105; BobbleObThanks for the explanation, that Hugh / Pugh conundrum has vexed me for years - while you're on a roll can you find...1) a Unicorn (any colour as long as its not red)2) This week's lotto numbers.3) and a RB...I understand that might be a bridge too far, but give it a go, as Mr M. Loaf said - 2 outta 3 ain't bad. There's a YouTube video out there that has Stanley Unwin and the Bill & Ben voice over guy having a 'conversation'...sounds like our transfer policy being discussed. Mike Gaynes 108 Posted 22/08/2025 at 02:30:57 Tony #100, correct, but loan players don't cost money against our PSR cap. As Ernie wisely points out, those can be made to happen right before the deadline. I say we should never again buy -- and be stuck with for years -- a mediocre player who can't truly make us better. Buy quality or don't buy. I think that's exactly what this new team is trying to do. And when they've bought their limit, or failed to bring in everybody they wanted, loan players can fill in the holes, and they're gone after the season.So I still think we'll see a flurry of three more loans right before the deadline. When that smoke clears, we'll be able to judge Moyes, Kinnear and Hammond on their window work. It's in their hands. Not TFG's, by the way. They hired Kinnear to run this operation. It's on him and Davey. Steve Brown 109 Posted 22/08/2025 at 02:31:08 Ashley @ 106, I think the transfer committee passed a resolution to adjourn and return to further transfer musings on 2nd September. At this rate we will have to rename the manager as Desperate Davey. Mike Gaynes 110 Posted 22/08/2025 at 02:59:54 Mark #98, you're right, quality players are a tough get for a club that's been down on its luck as long as Everton. But the only way to break that long-term pattern is to add quality. And it'll be a slow process. Ask the supporters of Brentford, Forest and Bournemouth how long it can take... and whether it's worth the wait. I think it is.Ashley #106, my best guess is that the Friedkins bought the best PSR counsel available and then did everything they could -- dumping players, selling Goodison, selling the women's team -- to push that PSR limit as high as possible. Then they handed that limit to Kinnear and Moyes with a license to buy whoever they wanted up to that line... and no farther.I firmly believe that it's Moyes, Kinnear and Hammond -- not the owners -- who are weighing every pound or Euro against that strict budget in deciding how high to bid for Dibling, for example. I don't believe TFG itself is much involved in the negotiating process. Don Alexander 111 Posted 22/08/2025 at 03:14:57 I'm sorry, but if any one of us seeks to remove responsibility from our owner/s for failing to sign what we clearly need, and instead seek to blame the staff our owners appoint and employ to enrich us on the field, I can only assume that such persons still believe that Donald Trump is still a worthy President of the now Unbelievably Usurped-States of America. Don Alexander 112 Posted 22/08/2025 at 03:27:42 Friedkin is Trumpian to his core, demonstrably thus far. If he takes umbrage at that he's got less than ten days to change my mind by way of credible signings, and the risk that goes with such credible signings.Or is he just in us for himself, eventually he hopes, as has been the case with another bogus owner/chairman for more than half of my loyal 70 year life as a Toffee? Mike Gaynes 114 Posted 22/08/2025 at 05:35:15 The pissant post at #111 again confirms everything I have believed for many years about the author. Steve Shave 115 Posted 22/08/2025 at 06:41:46 We need to stay calm, judge TFG after the window. If they bring in 3 more (and hopefully of quality), then the situation will look different. It's a sorry state of affairs to have to build a squad like this and we are unprepared for the season ahead. In Moyes I Trust, TFG will have to put their money in as we can't compete with this squad. Mike Hayes 116 Posted 22/08/2025 at 06:59:17 Trumpton fire brigade never put a single fire out - dont think there ever was one 🥳💙 Phil Wood 117 Posted 22/08/2025 at 07:45:04 Totally fed up with transfer speculation. We are waiting for 3 straight defeats then will pick up whatever crumbs are left on the table last minute.Typical Board activity when they know we should stay up but won't compete on the trophy or European front. Why spend a ton of cash to move 3 places higher in the Premier League?Losing patience fast. The lustre of a new ground and being a competitive team is fading fast. Sam Hoare 118 Posted 22/08/2025 at 08:00:02 I like Moyes but I'm not sure I entirely trust him, certainly not on the transfer front with what happened at West Ham (where to be fair exact responsibility is hard to discern).I was concerned before this summer that any transfer committee led by him would err on the side of caution and would overvalue the usefulness of PL experience. So far of our purchases 5 have come with PL experience and 2 have not. It remains to be seen how much those 2 will feature in Moyes starting XI.Our primary RW target Dibling also comes with PL experience and is quite possibly overpriced as a result.I will hold off judgement till the window closes. Hopefully the last week of it will be a successful one. I'm reminded of two deadline days:In 2013 Everton had started the season with uninspiring draws against West Brom and Cardiffs when deadline day arrived and we brought in Romelu Lukaku, Gareth Barry and James Mccarthy who bought solidity and goals between them and contributed majorly to us getting 72 points that season; our highest total in a long time and ever since.Contrastingly in 2019 the team was looking (as ever) a little short of pace and bite out wide and the calls for a winger or two were loud with expectation high for deadline day. But as deals fell by the wayside we ended up overpaying for Alex Iwobi (a player I liked) who was never a traditional winger and struggled to make much impact in his first season which saw Everton fall out of the top ten for the first time in 4 years as they limped to 12th.There seems an ingrained belief at Everton that the best business can be done or has to be done very late in the transfer window; sometimes that can work out (as with 2013) but sometimes you can end up being left short with other clubs not having time to replace departures. We badly need 3-4 new players. Hope the committee have called this one right. Ray Jacques 119 Posted 22/08/2025 at 08:16:06 It will be interesting to see how much Spurs sign Dibling for.Probably for not much more than we were haggling about with Soton.We will end up with some 33 year old free agent winger on deadline day that no one else wants. Peter Mitchell 120 Posted 22/08/2025 at 08:31:28 Ray - what makes you think Spurs will get Dibling? Crystal Palace are also in running and, as far as I know, we are still in for him as well. Palace are reportedly trying to "gazump" us with an offer of £35m - I certainly don't think Southampton will part with him for less money than we have already offered (which was £37.5m by all accounts). Whoever gets him will be paying top dollar, now, likely to be £40m+. Hugh Jenkins 121 Posted 22/08/2025 at 08:33:11 Ray (119). The latest is that Crystal Place are also now in the running for Dibbling - having sold Eze to Arsenal. The figure quoted however is a mere "£35 million plus". Derek Thomas 122 Posted 22/08/2025 at 08:47:24 Transfers can't well shouldn't be run by a committee, an UnHoly Trinity of Moyes Kinnear & Hammond, we'd be better of with Clarkson May & Hammond.Somebody has to be in charge, you have to have rules even in an Anarchy.For me this Director of Football lark...for want of a better term... works 2 ways (or 3 if you count 'not working' as a 3rd option)1) Manager / Coach driven says - I need a Peter Reid type and the 'DsoF' Roy Kinnear & Wally Hammond prepare a list of Reidy types we can afford, the Manager/ Coach ranks them in order and says - Go get em.2) 'DsoF' driven; we've got you this player consults notes - Terry Hibbert, looks great on YouTube, he mightn't be exactly what you want, but you're a top class coach on big money - so Coach him.I prefer option 1#toomanychiefs George Cumiskey 123 Posted 22/08/2025 at 08:50:52 If you were Dibling who would you choose two good London teams or a team who's manager hasn't stopped moaning in the press about how short we are are in numbers and quality ? Andrew Ellams 124 Posted 22/08/2025 at 08:51:36 Peter @ 120. Spurs will be playing in the Champions League this season. Colin Glassar 125 Posted 22/08/2025 at 08:52:48 Well we get outbid by almost everybody so its no surprise if Dibling ends up somewhere else.I dont know if its for lack of money or, arrogance, but we are not an attractive proposition despite having a shiny new stadium.Money counts, and if you pay top dollar all this, “I wants European football” counts for nothing. Players want money, thats why they go to football deserts like Saudi and Qatar Dave Abrahams 126 Posted 22/08/2025 at 09:02:52 Get ready for another Jack coming in or coming back to be accurate! Paul Hewitt 127 Posted 22/08/2025 at 09:21:11 Why are people getting worked up about missing out on Dibling? The lad might go on to be a top player, but at the moment he's nowhere near that. If Spurs want to pay £50M for a player with 2 goals and no assists last season, good luck to them. That's a signing Moshiri would make. And plenty on here would be going mad about it. Colin Glassar 128 Posted 22/08/2025 at 09:25:26 Paul, how much do you think a player with Premier League experience, a proven record of goals and assists would cost? Peter Mitchell 129 Posted 22/08/2025 at 09:27:54 Andrew@124 - so what? They have lost out on many of their targets already, despite being able to offer Champions League, and their fans are very unhappy about that. No idea whether or not Dibling will end up at Spurs, but it is far, far from a done deal as Ray was implying! Dave Abrahams 130 Posted 22/08/2025 at 09:28:01 Sam (118),Dibling's Premier League experience consists of 1 year so I would say he is definitely overpriced. Good luck to the club who finally get him. I sincerely hope it's not us.Just giving an opinion here, Sam, not having a go — I always look forward to your posts. Joe McMahon 131 Posted 22/08/2025 at 09:28:22 Paul H fully agree. Paul Hewitt 132 Posted 22/08/2025 at 09:30:48 Colin. Forest just bought Douglas Luiz for £30M. Different type of player, but he has loads of Premier League experience. Peter Mitchell 133 Posted 22/08/2025 at 09:36:11 Paul - I think the thing that is overlooked in these discussions is the wages, so you are not just paying £30M for Luiz, but also large wages. With the younger players (with something still to prove at EPL level) the wages are likely to be significantly lower. Not sure what Dibling is on at Southampton, but I would guess at far less that Luiz at Juventus! Ian Bennett 134 Posted 22/08/2025 at 09:46:11 Missed a trick on Luiz. We should of paid up for him, he would done a good job in front of the back 4 and is decent on the ball.We need more technical players that can retain the ball. Colin Glassar 135 Posted 22/08/2025 at 09:47:40 Peter, the same as I said @125. Players go to the clubs who are going to pay the highest wage. I bet Luiz is on a lot more money then we were prepared to pay him.Anyway, its all pure speculation. I read that X player hasnt moved from one club to another because his agent wants a £10m commission. Sickening John Williams 136 Posted 22/08/2025 at 09:49:53 With your hand on your heart, who thinks Dibling could have altered the game at Leeds in Evertons favour.Or, Could Ake playing at left back and allowing Garner to play in midfield, make the difference in victory instead of defeat. Ian Burns 137 Posted 22/08/2025 at 09:51:50 I just cant get excited about Dibling. Not seen much of him but what I have seen is ok but not “wow I love to see him here” type of player.It is frustrating when you see the likes of Garnacho and Sancho being out of reach when some years ago we would have been near the top of the list for such players.As we move closer to the end of this window, my usual optimism is slowly dissipating. Colin Glassar 138 Posted 22/08/2025 at 09:52:07 Dibling, John. No contest Mark Murphy 139 Posted 22/08/2025 at 09:58:13 John, Seamus at left back with Garner instead of Tim, and Grealish in from the start, wouldve changed the result at Leeds.Moyes missed a trick in not starting Grealish imo as Leeds would have loaded up to stop the big new player impact. Ian Wilkins 140 Posted 22/08/2025 at 10:02:53 John@136, Dibling would have made no difference, we needed to contest that game and earn the right to play. First half in particular we didnt. We got steam rollered with lightweight players going awol. Dibling is not the answer for us. The pursuit is akin to the daft Gnonto one, where we clearly escaped a bullet. Andrew Clare 141 Posted 22/08/2025 at 10:08:37 I just hope that none of our targets have watched us play! James Marshall 142 Posted 22/08/2025 at 10:13:12 I agree on Luiz - more ball playing midfielders would do us the world of good. That said, our main problem as of right now is balance. We need some full backs fit, and ideally ones who can also attack.Our midfield would be able to play higher up the pitch if we had natural fullbacks to give them team some shape and balance.Leeds play with hide/wide players who pinned us back for large parts of the game on Monday and while that won't happen every game, at the moment we'll be targeted in that area I'd imagine.No news on Myko's fitness but having a natural left back would really help the cause. If this Ake 'news' is true we should be going all out to sign him given he's a quality ball playing centre half who can also play left back. He's even drifted into and played a bit in midfield for City.Targeting City's bench is a tactic I'm fully behind. Tony Abrahams 143 Posted 22/08/2025 at 10:30:20 Mike@108, you are actually not telling me anything really mate, but thats probably because I feel exactly like Phil W@117,.I only hope that we bring in a few quality players by the end of this window, because Im certain there are loads of Evertonians, beginning to feel exactly like Phil, and especially what he wrote in his last paragraph.People quite rightly or wrongly say that Dibbling, might not have changed the game at Leeds, but sometimes its more about changing the mood, because the players in our squad, will all be definitely hoping for a few more reinforcements Stan Grace 144 Posted 22/08/2025 at 10:31:02 Mike #114I thought the moderators on ToffeeWeb no longer tolerated personal comments about other posters? Brendan McLaughlin 145 Posted 22/08/2025 at 10:42:23 Stan #144I think only posters who continually make disparaging remarks about fellow posters are no longer tolerated. Stan Grace 146 Posted 22/08/2025 at 10:45:18 Good to know Brendan.So how many is 'continually' exactly? 🤔 Brendan McLaughlin 147 Posted 22/08/2025 at 10:58:48 Stan #146That's a closely guarded secret to keep us all, by and large, respectful. Seems to be working BTW. Sam Hoare 148 Posted 22/08/2025 at 10:59:35 Dave@130, no offense taken, especially as I don't think my post was advocating signing Dibling. If anything it was the opposite as I worry Moyes places too much emphasis on PL experience when there is better value elsewhere.I like Dibling. I think there is a chance he develops into a really top player. But he's not there yet. Stephen Davies 149 Posted 22/08/2025 at 11:03:53 I see lots of chatter at the moment concerning Forest getting rid of Nuno. Joe McMahon 150 Posted 22/08/2025 at 11:14:53 Stephen, why would they do that? His teams prioritise goals. With long cup runs they just ran out of steam last season. Colin Glassar 151 Posted 22/08/2025 at 11:18:20 Right, lets settle this once and for all. Everyone out there, who is available, is either; too young, too old, too short, too tall, too fat, too thin, too slow, too ugly, too handsome, too cocky, too shy, too expensive, too cheap, too boring, too maverick, too cowardly, too physical, too thick, too clever, too loud, too quiet, too smiley, too sulky, etc, etc, etc,………………If we cant find this unworldly person then perhaps we shouldnt bother. Ian Wilkins 152 Posted 22/08/2025 at 11:21:09 Forest have an individual owner in a hurry to succeed. He is putting a lot of money in, buying a lot of players, mostly decent acquisitions on the face of it. Dancing around PSR it would appear. He personally got on a plane and went to convince Luiz to join it is reported. He had a couple of rumbles with Nuno last year, I dont think he believes Nuno will deliver the success he craves. Tony Abrahams 153 Posted 22/08/2025 at 11:25:57 When it comes to football, then I reckon Forest, might just have the highest percentage of fans who are looking forward to the new season?They have a chairman, who puts his hands in his pockets and because he comes across as aggressive and also very determined to deliver success, then its clear that Nuno, wont be getting an easy ride. It reminds me a bit of how Everton, once were, especially us Evertonians, before we got completely kidded by a conman. Stan Grace 154 Posted 22/08/2025 at 12:04:27 Brendan #147,Being respectful didn't do John McFarlane Snr much good!In the case of Nathan Aké, I can't see TFG/the board wanting to buy a high earner having just let other high earners leave the club. Grealish is different in that's it's only a one year deal for the moment. Christine Foster 155 Posted 22/08/2025 at 12:15:03 It keeps going around in circles this conversation, to replace what's gone we need to buy better quality players we either won't pay for, won't pay high wage or cannot convince we are a team going places. We aren't competing at the top of the transfer table, we are at the table next to the toilets.. you know the one where they put the undesirable. What's the truth then Davey? Is it the money we offer? Do we have to sell to buy? Or is it the desireability of the club because which ever one it is, we have to break it and get quality to replace not just what's gone but what's left. Moyes surprised people by saying we needed 9 players.. but do we really believe that Everton could or would, deliver on that? I am sure in the final week of the window we may find a couple of freebies or loans, but we need to build a team. I think Moyes is more than frustrated, realizing he is on a short tenure and needs to deliver but how? Danny O'Neill 156 Posted 22/08/2025 at 12:19:04 Agree, disagree by all means. But it should never get abusive or turn into personal insults.Talking of John McFarlane, has anyone heard from him? As well as exchanging on these pages, I've had the pleasure of meeting him a few times, once with his Grandson. He's a font of Everton knowledge. Tony McNulty 157 Posted 22/08/2025 at 12:41:31 Monday was very poor.I'm still trying to get my head around whether it was just a bad day at the office (which happens to all teams) or whether it was something more fundamental.Two obvious problems are that: (1) we are still undercooked; and (2) the players performed like they have hardly played with each other previously (which they haven't).I suspect we still have a problem we have had for years: when our best team plays, we are a match for most oppositions. But when there are injuries in key positions, we cannot call upon much talent from "the stiffs". George Cumiskey 158 Posted 22/08/2025 at 12:46:27 Spot on again Christine 👏 Brian Harrison 159 Posted 22/08/2025 at 12:55:09 Like everybody I don't know who the club are after, but looking at Mondays performance it looked like a few had down tools, and with hearing today that Ndaiyes agent had offered him to Milan only adds to the speculation that all is not well in the camp. At any given time players can have an off day but for so many to be well short of their normal game is worrying. I wonder did Moyes statement of needing 9 or 10 players spook some of the squad, because the difference between the team that finished last season and the performance against Leeds looked a bit more than a few having an off day. Mike Corcoran 160 Posted 22/08/2025 at 13:02:57 Yes we need the right side sorted but in the meantime would be nice if the team that is on the pitch played like a team that really wanted it and had some sort of clue. Good team work can cover a lot of weaknesses Jim Wilson 161 Posted 22/08/2025 at 13:32:27 Mark - there are plenty of good right backs out there we could have gone for who would fit our team and improve the team performances. We have been chasing the wrong names not the best in quality.Players improve in quality if the team balance is right and has a run of good form. Bill Griffiths 162 Posted 22/08/2025 at 14:02:13 Danny, I know John's going to the game on Sunday with Josh his grandson. Kevin Molloy 163 Posted 22/08/2025 at 14:05:29 Everton's transfer window'we're way short, we need 9 or 10 players''I thought we'd have done more by now''we've tried to sign loads of players but they just won't come cos we don't have European football''it's not the money, we've got the money, they just won't come''this may be a difficult year, we may have to drop our sights and just keep it steady'. so he started out being straight. then he walked it all back. according to Moyes, it's not the club's fault we haven't got the players in, it's cos we don't have European football. Does anyone actually believe that? He's covering for the fact that the club aren't delivering. (Kinnear isn't authorising the offers at the right price, and Hammond's just not very good).Well at least now we can see what's happening. The feel good factor of the last six months has been comprehensively pissed away, we've got 3 left wingers and no right winger, no right back, And we've recruited a fading star player to play in our best player's position. Ian Bennett 164 Posted 22/08/2025 at 14:15:11 Listening to a Palace fan who talked a bit of sense.Palace fans are also moaning about not signing players. One made a point that Oakace are going in for players, but agents are then punting them around other clubs - in the hope to get better deals.Palace aren't a bad sude and have European football. Theyre not big payers, but a good stepping stone club.The only teams that getting deals done are city, Chelsea, arsenal and United. Prestige and money. The rest are lower in the food chain, and will pick up players at the end of the window. Everton lower in the food chain, as they're baukling at breaking a transfer record set EIGHT YEARS AGO. No other club in the Premier league has an eight year old transfer record.Football moves on, and the last 35 years has proved that we aren't keeping up. Jake FitzGerald 165 Posted 22/08/2025 at 14:16:20 Its like Statler and Waldorf from the Muppets in here sometimes… Joe McMahon 166 Posted 22/08/2025 at 14:18:40 Moyes has confirmed no left backs available for tomorrow. August as usual looking bleak. Bobby Mallon 167 Posted 22/08/2025 at 14:40:52 Moyes really surprised me last season with how we finished but his moaning and inability to coach youth is so sad IMO. When was the last time we developed a decent player for the first team. We must have a left back in our under 21s who can step into the first team or what's the point of having youth program. We may as well bin it and buy the better cast offs from utd city chelsea etc. It's criminal we are playing garner at left back and seamus must be able to play right back ffs Ian Bennett 168 Posted 22/08/2025 at 15:05:28 Weve sold them Bobby. Gordon, Cannon, Samuel's Smith.All players that could be in the first 20 players, but have been sold. Ian Wilkins 169 Posted 22/08/2025 at 15:55:00 I think we're being tee'd up for the return of Jack Harrison and Josh Brownhill et al arrival. Maybe Jamie Vardy. They're not too bothered about the lack of European football. Paul Kossoff 170 Posted 22/08/2025 at 15:56:56 Derek 107. The "Flower Pot Men," also known as Bill and Ben, spoke a language called Oddle Poddle. Invented by their voice actor Peter Hawkins. Apparently our very own manager David Moyes is a big fan of Bill and Ben, and still speaks the language to the players. His reason being that "They don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, so why not?" Fuck it!!!Here are words used in his team talk:ickle weedikl widlittle weedWaddle oo tik oo dop?/wadl u tik u dap/What do you think of that?Gloob a waddle a hop.glub a wadl a hapGloves as well as a hat.lobloblablabNob a nob?lovelyflobberpopflabapapflowerpotFuck yupe, Fuck you. Phil Wood 171 Posted 22/08/2025 at 16:03:42 Stephen Davies 149Talksport reporting as you said. Nuno not a happy man.That's Potter getting sacked then Stephen :) Paul Kossoff 172 Posted 22/08/2025 at 16:11:44 116 Mike.The driver of the fire engine 'Barney McGrew' always had his eyes closed, no wonder they never found a fire.A bit like our manager, we will go down in flames and his excuse is, eyes wide shut! Andrew Merrick 173 Posted 23/08/2025 at 12:53:17 Ake coming on v Spurs… Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. How to get rid of these ads and support TW © ToffeeWeb