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Moyes explains absences
, 17 December,
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David Moyes has explained the surprise absence of Seamus Coleman from today's line-up as caused by a thigh strain. Jack Rodwell felt his hamstring and was therefore never going to get on from the bench, and likely will miss Wednesday's game as well. Top goalscorer Vellios? "I just decided he looked a little bit below it in training..."
"Seamus Coleman had a thigh strain," said Moyes after the game.
"Jack was injured in the warm-up and I got told just as the game was about to kick off that if I needed him he wouldn't be able to go on because he had felt it in the warm up.
"I would think if he felt it today he won't be available for Wednesday night."
Everton's matchday squad didn't feature Apostolos Vellios either but Moyes confirmed injury wasn't a problem for the Greek.
"Tolis, I just decided he looked a little bit below it in training and young Conor McAleny has been the one looking sharper," added Moyes.
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Mike Hayes
2 Posted 17/12/2011 at 23:47:20
2 Posted 17/12/2011 at 23:47:20
These two players were showing too much positivity, not a good way to impress a negative minded manager. Straq & Roy had better watch out, observe Cahill, Saha & Osman and then warm the bench next match.
It's about time youth and positive play got a look-in with the team instead of the tired players Moyes keeps putting in the first eleven.
It's about time youth and positive play got a look-in with the team instead of the tired players Moyes keeps putting in the first eleven.
Tom Martin
3 Posted 18/12/2011 at 00:14:15
3 Posted 18/12/2011 at 00:14:15
What is it with people that seem to think Osman is useless? Since Moyes first brought him into the team many years ago, he's had very few bad games and yet he's still on the list of players to slag off. He had a good game again today trying to link up play and do positive things.
Nick Armitage
4 Posted 18/12/2011 at 00:48:47
4 Posted 18/12/2011 at 00:48:47
"Tolis, I just decided he looked a little bit below it in training."
From that we can only assume that Saha, Neville and Cahill must be playing like Messi at Finch Farm.
From that we can only assume that Saha, Neville and Cahill must be playing like Messi at Finch Farm.
Jason Heng
5 Posted 18/12/2011 at 00:57:06
5 Posted 18/12/2011 at 00:57:06
Nick, at the same time he saw improvements in Gueye at training. So why slag him off for making a decision?
Peter Fearon
6 Posted 18/12/2011 at 04:15:50
6 Posted 18/12/2011 at 04:15:50
I'm an Osman skeptic but he did play very well today, even apart from scoring. Drenthe should have started. With his penetration we could probably have made a breakthrough earlier.
Andy Corrie
7 Posted 18/12/2011 at 08:14:47
7 Posted 18/12/2011 at 08:14:47
We've just dropped to 14th in the table with Moyes' usual bullshit cautious too little too late defensive approach, what's good about that??
And where the fuck was Barkley?
And where the fuck was Barkley?
Paul Gladwell
8 Posted 18/12/2011 at 08:30:48
8 Posted 18/12/2011 at 08:30:48
He does not want to rush Barkley, I mean Man Utd don't want him worn out when they sign him.
Al Reddish
9 Posted 18/12/2011 at 08:39:14
9 Posted 18/12/2011 at 08:39:14
As said previously, Magaye Gueye got a start and Strac got a run so they must be looking better than Velios in training. No problem for me with that. Neville was in as Rodwell is crocked, Osman had a decent game and got the goal, but playing Cahill so out of form is where Moyes got it wrong today.
Joe Bibb
10 Posted 18/12/2011 at 09:47:17
10 Posted 18/12/2011 at 09:47:17
"Vellios looked a bit below in training so I went with Conor McAleny".
God he must have been so unfit if he couldn't do the two minutes Conor got!!!!!!!!!!!
God he must have been so unfit if he couldn't do the two minutes Conor got!!!!!!!!!!!
Andy Corrie
11 Posted 18/12/2011 at 09:58:44
11 Posted 18/12/2011 at 09:58:44
Gents, I think we're all agreed that as a manager, it's all about getting the best out of your squad, motivating with a positive 'can-do' attitude and approach, and playing your fastest, keenest and most willing players.
I played rugby union for years and didn't get into the starting 15 on match day if I missed training, lacked fitness or didn't appear keen and motivated in play; sounds simple really doesn't it?
I personally think Moyes has a really great squad here already, capable of a solid top 10 finish this season, with or without funds, and that I'm sure is what frustrates me for sure and very probably some of you.
And poor Mr Cahill just needs an enforced long rest; you can't play at full throttle for club and country for 10 years and not suffer the physical consequences;
as keen and willing as Timmy is, Moyes needs to stop exploiting Cahill's good nature and tell him to take a load off.
I reckon he'd make a superb super sub to snatch a header in the last 10 minutes of a tough stalemate.
I played rugby union for years and didn't get into the starting 15 on match day if I missed training, lacked fitness or didn't appear keen and motivated in play; sounds simple really doesn't it?
I personally think Moyes has a really great squad here already, capable of a solid top 10 finish this season, with or without funds, and that I'm sure is what frustrates me for sure and very probably some of you.
And poor Mr Cahill just needs an enforced long rest; you can't play at full throttle for club and country for 10 years and not suffer the physical consequences;
as keen and willing as Timmy is, Moyes needs to stop exploiting Cahill's good nature and tell him to take a load off.
I reckon he'd make a superb super sub to snatch a header in the last 10 minutes of a tough stalemate.
Aidy Dews
12 Posted 18/12/2011 at 10:53:17
12 Posted 18/12/2011 at 10:53:17
He wasn't at it in training, fair dooz... but he always seems to make a contribution in games, more than what the likes of Cahill and Saha are doing at the moment and isn't that where it all counts?!
I think I remember someone like Shearer at the end of his career in an interview saying that some weeks he'd be shocking in training and then, come matchday, he'd be bang on it and scoring hat-tricks and I think he also said that some players would look world beaters in training and then not reproduce it in games so really you can't judge too much in training cos clearly the likes of Hibbo, Neville, Cahill, Saha and Anichebe must look shit hot cos they always get a look in and never left out completely!
And what about Barkley? Yeah he's really going to progress and fulfill his potential by not getting picked at all in the 18-man matchday squad, isn't he!
I'm all for giving the likes of Gueye and McAleny chances cos they're doing well in training but Moyesy is getting on my tits by sticking with his over-the-hill, out-of-form favourites instead of going with the likes of Vellios who this season as been making a contribution.
I think I remember someone like Shearer at the end of his career in an interview saying that some weeks he'd be shocking in training and then, come matchday, he'd be bang on it and scoring hat-tricks and I think he also said that some players would look world beaters in training and then not reproduce it in games so really you can't judge too much in training cos clearly the likes of Hibbo, Neville, Cahill, Saha and Anichebe must look shit hot cos they always get a look in and never left out completely!
And what about Barkley? Yeah he's really going to progress and fulfill his potential by not getting picked at all in the 18-man matchday squad, isn't he!
I'm all for giving the likes of Gueye and McAleny chances cos they're doing well in training but Moyesy is getting on my tits by sticking with his over-the-hill, out-of-form favourites instead of going with the likes of Vellios who this season as been making a contribution.
Al Reddish
13 Posted 18/12/2011 at 11:06:41
13 Posted 18/12/2011 at 11:06:41
Andy......be prepared to get some flack for the 'solid top ten finish' quote. Not good enough for most on here, and I would love to aim higher myself if I am honest.
James Stewart
14 Posted 18/12/2011 at 11:19:05
14 Posted 18/12/2011 at 11:19:05
having to explain his bizarre logic for once. good!
John Ford
15 Posted 18/12/2011 at 11:13:19
15 Posted 18/12/2011 at 11:13:19
Andy C. I agree with what you say except I dont believe our squad is good enough for a top seven finish, though mid tableish is likely. We dont have the players to push on in the way we have in recent seasons. This is the weakest squad Moyes has had since the one he inherited.
Part of me actually wishes for a mid table spot because it will keep the pressure firmly on Kenwright. If we get to 6th or 7th I fear Kenwight will feel vindicated in his approach , and it would be Moyes bailing him out yet agaon.
Cahill is either finished or just in need of a break. Either way his performances stand out for the wrong reasons. Its obvious he needs dropping.
Part of me actually wishes for a mid table spot because it will keep the pressure firmly on Kenwright. If we get to 6th or 7th I fear Kenwight will feel vindicated in his approach , and it would be Moyes bailing him out yet agaon.
Cahill is either finished or just in need of a break. Either way his performances stand out for the wrong reasons. Its obvious he needs dropping.
Wayne Smyth
16 Posted 18/12/2011 at 11:33:30
16 Posted 18/12/2011 at 11:33:30
I still fail to see why Neville should be ahead of the likes of Osman in the centre of the park. Norwich went 4-4-2, so I think Ossie and Fellaini would have been ok, or even Fellaini and Cahill, then there is Barkley too who needs experience at this level.
With ossie off the wings, we could have had drenthe in there and actually given Norwich some real problems. The gulf in class and ability between drenthe and any of our other players is obvious. There is absolutely no excuse for not playing him if he is able to play.
2 points lost at home to a newly promoted team thanks to Moyes.
With ossie off the wings, we could have had drenthe in there and actually given Norwich some real problems. The gulf in class and ability between drenthe and any of our other players is obvious. There is absolutely no excuse for not playing him if he is able to play.
2 points lost at home to a newly promoted team thanks to Moyes.
Andy Corrie
18 Posted 18/12/2011 at 11:40:47
18 Posted 18/12/2011 at 11:40:47
Me too Al, and I'm all about positivity, but previous high expectations have taken a pretty hard hit recently.
Let's see how we do against Swansea, moreover what his starting 11 will be.
Let's see how we do against Swansea, moreover what his starting 11 will be.
Robbie Carew
19 Posted 18/12/2011 at 12:09:51
19 Posted 18/12/2011 at 12:09:51
Does Moyes honestly think we were more likely to get 3 points with Neville in the heart of our midfield than with Barkley?
John Barnes
20 Posted 18/12/2011 at 12:28:05
20 Posted 18/12/2011 at 12:28:05
Peter Fearon, Yes Osman had a half decent game, nothing more, ... against the mighty Norwich. Just about his level. Drenthe's impact in 15 minutes on the same wing showed how poor Osman is even when 'half decent'
Andy Corrie
21 Posted 18/12/2011 at 13:14:07
21 Posted 18/12/2011 at 13:14:07
John Barnes?
Ian Tunstead
22 Posted 18/12/2011 at 13:43:15
22 Posted 18/12/2011 at 13:43:15
Robbie the first team and reserves train with each other, and just like any football team who train together they will have a match against each other, Neville is probably bossing Barkley in training and so earning his place in the first team.
Andy Cope
23 Posted 18/12/2011 at 21:35:39
23 Posted 18/12/2011 at 21:35:39
I was at Selhurst Park in the week to watch the Youth Cup game and it looked to me that Barkley was feeling his hamstring after a run at the end of extra time. If so, I can understand why he wouldn't be risked with so many games coming up.
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