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Roberto is awaiting Saldado's apology
Roberto Martinez has responded to digs by Andre Villas-Boas on Romelu Lukakua regarding his collision with Hugo Lloris on Sunday by suggesting that if he believes the Belgian needs to apologise, Spurs' Roberto Soldado might extend Phil Jagielka the same courtesy.The Tottenham boss has gone public with his complaints that Lukaku could have jumped over his goalkeeper in the incident that left the goalkeeper briefly concussed and sparked a debate in the media about whether or not the Frenchman should have stayed on the field.
Martinez insists that Lukaku could not have avoided Lloris and believes that if aspersions are being cast, Soldado should be apologising for a deliberate elbow on Phil Jagielka for which he escaped censure by referee Kevin Friend and his assistants.
"The good thing is that you can watch the replay and you can see the video evidence," Martinez says.
"Romelu, all he's doing is carrying on his run. He cannot disappear [out of Lloris' path]. It's unfortunate.
"I don't think Andre Villas-Boas mentioned that there was any intent or any wrongdoing from Romelu. I think he only mentioned that maybe he expected a bit of an apology.
"We're waiting for Roberto Soldado to apologise to Phil Jagielka and use the same phone call so we don't have to spend two phone calls."
Martinez also backed calls to stop managers making decisions on players with concussion:
"If there is a strong view from the medical side that a concussed player should come off we should look into it and make a rule," said Martinez.
"I don't think it should be a manager's decision whether you take a player off or not. It should be part of the game and a law. It would be very unfair to be a manager in a position where you have to take a player off just to avoid any sort of risk without having that medical knowledge."
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2 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:18:18
3 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:13:44
The bad feelings between teams and players (which can linger) then don't happen.
4 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:21:04
5 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:21:29
7 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:25:42
8 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:25:30
9 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:29:33
10 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:20:02
11 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:31:29
I think the lad's name is spelled 'Soldado' but I'm mot positive on that one.
12 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:36:57
13 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:43:38
14 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:42:29
15 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:47:40
Almost worth appointing him as manager for that zinger alone.
16 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:43:52
17 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:43:33
19 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:44:05
AVB is the embodiment of the crap foreign manager who gets a Prem job because he's foreign and gives power point presentations in english.
Spurs should be winning the league this year with their spend but are choking as usual, Shanks used to call them the "Drury lane tap dancers" - spot on he was.
Even spurs fans are embarrassed by this, some right bluffers managing monied clubs at the moment.
20 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:59:43
The quintessential, "He speaks English with a continental accent" over-rated manager.
Couldn't do better than 'Arry with the side 'Arry built, even with Bale playing out of his skin.
Why he chose to pick out that collision as something to bitch about, I don't know. His keeper leapt up and played well after, while our striker limped off.
21 Posted 07/11/2013 at 17:29:04
22 Posted 07/11/2013 at 17:34:48
Round One to Roberto, methinks.
Time will tell; I think Martinez may turn out to have an iron fist in a velvet glove.
23 Posted 07/11/2013 at 17:35:33
He said nothing about Lukaku after the game on Sunday and still said nothing about him until he and his medical staff have come under fire many times since then.
It was two fully committed players going for a loose ball.
However, the incident with the nasty elbow from Soldado was premeditated.
24 Posted 07/11/2013 at 17:48:02
25 Posted 07/11/2013 at 18:01:57
The Lukaku/Lloris iincident was a total accident — and we all saw the Soldado incident!!
AVB revisit!
26 Posted 07/11/2013 at 18:09:07
Excellent response from RM...as usual.
Sin Miedo? Add to that: "cum dignitas"
27 Posted 07/11/2013 at 18:15:27
28 Posted 07/11/2013 at 19:05:48
29 Posted 07/11/2013 at 19:17:08
You can tell his media punditry on Sky, BBC and ESPN have really helped Martinez gain a good relationship with the media. He really knows how to deal with them effectively.
I love how AVB called his critics "incompetent."
Maybe his judgement isn't up to scratch, like isolating all of the older players at Chelsea. Recipe for disaster that, tasting juicy with infighting and lost dressing rooms, with a side dish of P45 and Roman's Wrath.
Lets be fair, what's he won, AVB? A treble with Porto, a 3 team league frankly.
He left Chelsea in 6th, split the dressing room, got battered by Napoli, and Robbie Di Matteo picked up the pieces. Bale saved his skin last season, and you can tell how much they are missing him in this campaign. Very goal shy.
AVB's philosophy last season was PITBAHFTB, (Pass It To Bale And Hope For The Best), and Spud's lack of goals is going to cost them 4th. There is no way they will finish 4th this season.
If Tottenham win the Premier League this season, I will eat my Everton cap.
30 Posted 07/11/2013 at 19:43:15
31 Posted 07/11/2013 at 19:48:34
Come to peaceful suicide?
32 Posted 07/11/2013 at 19:49:38
33 Posted 07/11/2013 at 20:02:55
34 Posted 07/11/2013 at 20:13:35
35 Posted 07/11/2013 at 20:09:30
36 Posted 07/11/2013 at 20:27:05
37 Posted 07/11/2013 at 20:52:15
38 Posted 07/11/2013 at 21:08:21
It's probably quicker to say "Pass it to Bale and Hope for the Best" than your acronym!!! lol
39 Posted 07/11/2013 at 19:05:33
40 Posted 07/11/2013 at 22:31:05
I don't think Spurs used it to deliberately break up our game, but it certainly helped them hold on for a point so to hear AVB moaning about it now must leave our manager with a certain amount of chagrin over the bare faced cheek of the spurs manager. Villas Boas is trying to deflect criticism, but to blame Lukaku is completely ridiculous.
41 Posted 07/11/2013 at 22:39:45
Translated into English, its similar to a name of a person: Wanye Kerr...
42 Posted 07/11/2013 at 22:53:10
AVB is an arse who is simply trying to deflect attention from the fact that it was Lloris who ran the show and ran onto the pitch when all the medics were telling him to get off - it was a total fuck up for them. Fortunately, no harm was done.....
Pity we couldn't sneak a goal.......
43 Posted 07/11/2013 at 23:13:08
44 Posted 07/11/2013 at 23:52:29
Togam meam colligebo.
45 Posted 08/11/2013 at 00:30:53
46 Posted 08/11/2013 at 02:44:32
47 Posted 08/11/2013 at 03:04:58
Gary #670 Once 'educated' by 'Christian Brothers' you were always concerned about Latin Grammar since the swoosh of the strap to hand was never far behind and unfortunately I was a slow Latin learner:o(
49 Posted 08/11/2013 at 07:02:56
50 Posted 08/11/2013 at 07:44:38
51 Posted 08/11/2013 at 09:01:06
52 Posted 08/11/2013 at 09:24:01
53 Posted 08/11/2013 at 09:15:45
54 Posted 08/11/2013 at 09:40:06
There was a falling out between the Old Boys and the school some years ago, the club kept going for a while. However, I walked past yesterday and there is a "To Let" board on the door.
55 Posted 08/11/2013 at 09:54:49
On the player front, I think RM is right, a 4th official/medical person or even the ref should be the one making this kind of decision and not the manager. I.e. someone neutral.
The Spurs players around Lloris were really concerned for him and thought he should go off and the player himself blacked out for a while and couldn't remember anything, he couldnt even stand up properly for a couple of minutes. The manager is not going to want to make a substitution if he doesn't have to and I was really surprised AVB kept Lloris on - it shows that he cares more about the result that the well being of one of his players! Football is important but not that important! Who knows what would have happened if Lloris had received another blow to the head aftewards, e.g. coming out for a corner etc.
I uses to like AVB and felt sorry for him at Chelsea but his recent actions have really turned me off him. He seems to be both blinded by ambition as well as being an immature prick at times.
56 Posted 08/11/2013 at 11:33:56
He also showed little respect for his medical advisor and his substitute GK.
And, just to add something to the mix; was the 1O minute delay before the decision was made to keep the GK on anything to do with a deliberate attempt to knock the rythm out of Everton's play at a time they were clearly on top and going for the win?
57 Posted 08/11/2013 at 13:10:50
If he is the manager, he calls the shots after getting advice from the medical team. They were clearly indicating that Lloris was out of it. Nearly 40000 people saw it and yet he allows a half witted keeper to say he's okay. JOKER!
I think AVB is a spoofer as was proven at Chelsea and is being proven again at Spurs. He hasn't improved on Harry's team even after all the money he's spent. I'm looking forward to seeing it fall apart at Spurs again this season.
RM meanwhile is just class personified. In one sentence, he is telling AVB to fuck off (very nicely by the way) and also telling us Billy has a meter on the phone. CLASS!
58 Posted 08/11/2013 at 14:07:10
He failed at Chelski which did not surprise me and now has spent millions at Spurs who are far from looking like a top team yet.
He screwed up with the Loris situation and should have stood firm in replacing him after the injury.
59 Posted 08/11/2013 at 15:34:55
In our hearts will find a place most wondrous kind.
60 Posted 08/11/2013 at 15:49:12
Frank McLardy – WW2 traitor, Liverpool District Secretary of the British Union of Fascists; founder member of the Waffen-SS British Free Corps; later served as SS-Unterscharfúhrer in the Waffen-SS Medical Corps. Sentenced to life imprisonment (reduced to 15 years) on his return to England. Served seven years and later emigrated to Germany, where he worked as a pharmacist.
61 Posted 08/11/2013 at 16:02:06
Bit sad we can all remember that shite which sits there like black through a lobster after all these years (actually they never threw any lobsters - usually chalk and board dusters in my day)
62 Posted 08/11/2013 at 16:00:42
I was expecting some sort of AVB in NAZI relation expose shock! Then realised it was part of the thread earlier (hadn't read the previous posts...)
Would have been enough for a daily mail journo!
63 Posted 08/11/2013 at 16:59:39
64 Posted 08/11/2013 at 20:58:16
Since then he has revitalised the team with some great signings, and the overall football being played has been of a higher standard than under our previous manager. He has brought class and dignity back to our club, and totally changed my mind about him.
I'll be wearing my lucky socks on Saturday, so relax everyone, they guarantee a win.
COYB'S
65 Posted 08/11/2013 at 21:15:44
They were delighted after the game with that point hence their players whoops and high fives. As Walker said, what an intimidating place to come... Yes, that's us, Kyle, we like to give southern teams a nice friendly welcome.
Anyway, AVB wants to try and get rid of that chest infection he's had for the last few years... Aaaaggh! — just spotted Kenwright on that Elvis tribute on ITV. I'm off to bed.
66 Posted 08/11/2013 at 21:24:33
67 Posted 08/11/2013 at 21:53:51
Just got settled to watch it and there's his fat spoofing napper hyperbole-ing all over the show.
Mind you to be fair, didn't he have a secret night out with Elvis and Tommy Steele in 1959.
If I remember correctly, they started in Ma Eggertons, bit of a crawl around town then a taxi to the Gravvy.
(apparently Bill got his hole but the other two got KB'd and ended up going to The Green Spot for a scran).
68 Posted 09/11/2013 at 10:23:46
69 Posted 09/11/2013 at 11:02:44
70 Posted 09/11/2013 at 12:00:15
And Sir Ken's TED presentations are great - see that Youtube thingy.
71 Posted 09/11/2013 at 13:50:46
An absolute must to view is Sir Kens TED Talk. Might resonate with Gerry, Tom etc
http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_says_schools_kill_creativity.html
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