Roberto is awaiting Saldado's apology

, Click Liverpool , 7 November, 68comments  |  Jump to most recent
Roberto Martinez has responded to digs by Andre Villas-Boas on Romelu Lukakua regarding his collision with Hugo Lloris on Sunday by suggesting that if he believes the Belgian needs to apologise, Spurs' Roberto Soldado might extend Phil Jagielka the same courtesy.

The Tottenham boss has gone public with his complaints that Lukaku could have jumped over his goalkeeper in the incident that left the goalkeeper briefly concussed and sparked a debate in the media about whether or not the Frenchman should have stayed on the field.

Martinez insists that Lukaku could not have avoided Lloris and believes that if aspersions are being cast, Soldado should be apologising for a deliberate elbow on Phil Jagielka for which he escaped censure by referee Kevin Friend and his assistants.

"The good thing is that you can watch the replay and you can see the video evidence," Martinez says.

"Romelu, all he's doing is carrying on his run. He cannot disappear [out of Lloris' path]. It's unfortunate.

"I don't think Andre Villas-Boas mentioned that there was any intent or any wrongdoing from Romelu. I think he only mentioned that maybe he expected a bit of an apology.

"We're waiting for Roberto Soldado to apologise to Phil Jagielka and use the same phone call so we don't have to spend two phone calls."

Martinez also backed calls to stop managers making decisions on players with concussion:

"If there is a strong view from the medical side that a concussed player should come off we should look into it and make a rule," said Martinez.

"I don't think it should be a manager's decision whether you take a player off or not. It should be part of the game and a law. It would be very unfair to be a manager in a position where you have to take a player off just to avoid any sort of risk without having that medical knowledge."

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Tony McNulty
1 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:12:31
The closing telephone reference is probably one of the most elegant ways for one football manager to tell another to “fuck off” that I have heard for quite some time.
Brett Jonathan
2 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:18:18
Agreed. That last line is hilarious. Keep up the great media work Roberto.
Tony Page
3 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:13:44
This apology in the aftermath of accidental injury should be automatic requirements from a player,and not have to be asked for through a journalist.

The bad feelings between teams and players (which can linger) then don't happen.

Steve Pugh
4 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:21:04
Well done Roberto, that is the way to deal with the media.
Jake Eaton
5 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:21:29
Superb response by Martinez.
Sean Kelly
7 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:25:42
Class, Roberto!
Tom R Owen
8 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:25:30
RM is far more eloquent in his second language than most Premiership managers who are native to these shores!
Sam Hoare
9 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:29:33
Great stuff!
James Flynn
10 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:20:02
Well done.
Pat Finegan
11 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:31:29
Martinez is in the same league as Sir Alex when it somes to media management. Difference is that Martinez is elegant and respectful.

I think the lad's name is spelled 'Soldado' but I'm mot positive on that one.

Drew Shortis
12 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:36:57
It is clear to see that Romelu had no intent to hurt Lloris. It was a nasty collision between two players doing their best to get to the ball. If anything it is the case that Lloris slid into the path of Lukaku who couldn't really dodge him. Despite being hurt himself Romelu was quick to signal that Lloris needed treatment. I don't know what AVB is whittering on about here and I think Roberto's comments are spot on!
Kevin Rowlands
13 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:43:38
Nice one RM, love the way he doesn't take shit from the media and others including our ex manager and makes his replies in a very clever way.
Steve Cunningham
14 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:42:29
Great media stuff, Roberto. I bet AVB curses the day he tried to put one over the Toffee Matador. Maybe Romelu should have called Lloris to apologise... but that should have been after the ref called Romelu to say sorry for booking him.
Paul Thompson
15 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:47:40
"We're waiting for Roberto Soldado to apologise to Phil Jagielka and use the same phone call so we don't have to spend two phone calls."

Almost worth appointing him as manager for that zinger alone.

Tony J Williams
16 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:43:52
Cracking comment there Bobby.... keep it up!
Jon Ferguson
17 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:43:33
Martinez oozes class!
Barry Rathbone
19 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:44:05
Martinez just sliced and diced AVB.

AVB is the embodiment of the crap foreign manager who gets a Prem job because he's foreign and gives power point presentations in english.

Spurs should be winning the league this year with their spend but are choking as usual, Shanks used to call them the "Drury lane tap dancers" - spot on he was.

Even spurs fans are embarrassed by this, some right bluffers managing monied clubs at the moment.

James Flynn
20 Posted 07/11/2013 at 16:59:43
Barry - Bale saved his hash last season.

The quintessential, "He speaks English with a continental accent" over-rated manager.

Couldn't do better than 'Arry with the side 'Arry built, even with Bale playing out of his skin.

Why he chose to pick out that collision as something to bitch about, I don't know. His keeper leapt up and played well after, while our striker limped off.

Ray Roche
21 Posted 07/11/2013 at 17:29:04
James, I think AVB chose to pick out the collision to deflect the criticism that he's getting for allowing Lloris to play on when he really should have taken him off.
Paul Andrews
22 Posted 07/11/2013 at 17:34:48
Touché Señor.

Round One to Roberto, methinks.

Time will tell; I think Martinez may turn out to have an iron fist in a velvet glove.

Ste Traverse
23 Posted 07/11/2013 at 17:35:33
AVB is behaving like a right prick over this.

He said nothing about Lukaku after the game on Sunday and still said nothing about him until he and his medical staff have come under fire many times since then.

It was two fully committed players going for a loose ball.

However, the incident with the nasty elbow from Soldado was premeditated.

James Stewart
24 Posted 07/11/2013 at 17:48:02
Absolute class from Martinez with the telephone line. Used to have a fair amount of time for AVB but that is quickly fading with the continued rubbish he keeps spouting. Plus for the money he has had to spend they should be doing better.
Keith Magwood
25 Posted 07/11/2013 at 18:01:57
Absolutely right, RM!

The Lukaku/Lloris iincident was a total accident — and we all saw the Soldado incident!!

AVB revisit!

Gerry Quinn
26 Posted 07/11/2013 at 18:09:07
So BK is limiting phone calls to 1 now?

Excellent response from RM...as usual.
Sin Miedo? Add to that: "cum dignitas"

Gerry Quinn
27 Posted 07/11/2013 at 18:15:27
James - I fall asleep trying to decipher AVB!
Nicholas Ryan
28 Posted 07/11/2013 at 19:05:48
Picking a verbal fight with Martinez, must be like bowling to Sachin Tendulkar...however much effort you put in, the ball is hit elegantly and effortlessly, right back past you!
Ross Edwards
29 Posted 07/11/2013 at 19:17:08
Nice one Robbie. AVB has dished it out, and can't take it. Pathetic the way he criticised Romelu for not trying hard enough to get out of the way. Idiot.

You can tell his media punditry on Sky, BBC and ESPN have really helped Martinez gain a good relationship with the media. He really knows how to deal with them effectively.

I love how AVB called his critics "incompetent."

Maybe his judgement isn't up to scratch, like isolating all of the older players at Chelsea. Recipe for disaster that, tasting juicy with infighting and lost dressing rooms, with a side dish of P45 and Roman's Wrath.

Lets be fair, what's he won, AVB? A treble with Porto, a 3 team league frankly.

He left Chelsea in 6th, split the dressing room, got battered by Napoli, and Robbie Di Matteo picked up the pieces. Bale saved his skin last season, and you can tell how much they are missing him in this campaign. Very goal shy.

AVB's philosophy last season was PITBAHFTB, (Pass It To Bale And Hope For The Best), and Spud's lack of goals is going to cost them 4th. There is no way they will finish 4th this season.

If Tottenham win the Premier League this season, I will eat my Everton cap.

Peter Mills
30 Posted 07/11/2013 at 19:43:15
Gerry, I'm not sure about your Spanish, but I'm too scared to google it.....
Ross Edwards
31 Posted 07/11/2013 at 19:48:34
"cum dignitas"

Come to peaceful suicide?

James Lauwervine
32 Posted 07/11/2013 at 19:49:38
Beautiful from our Bobby, just beautiful.
Mike Gaynes
33 Posted 07/11/2013 at 20:02:55
Truly elegant.
Ian Bennett
34 Posted 07/11/2013 at 20:13:35
He has the eyebrows off Oscar the grouch, but the man does have a certain style.
Dave Lynch
35 Posted 07/11/2013 at 20:09:30
If AVB isn't squirming after this rebuff......
Chris Cook
36 Posted 07/11/2013 at 20:27:05
What we mean to say is you call us first, we can't afford the phone call :D
Ross Edwards
37 Posted 07/11/2013 at 20:52:15
Tottenham struggling to shoot the Sheriff so far...
James Brand
38 Posted 07/11/2013 at 21:08:21
Ross #616

It's probably quicker to say "Pass it to Bale and Hope for the Best" than your acronym!!! lol

James Flynn
39 Posted 07/11/2013 at 19:05:33
Ray - I suppose. Screw him anyway. Over-rated.
Gavin McGarvey
40 Posted 07/11/2013 at 22:31:05
very funny from RM, and with a touch of elegance about it. Dare I say it has a touch of Jose Mourinho about it? As for AVB he's desperately scratching around for some justification for not taking Lloris off. If I recall correctly the only reason the keeper stayed on the pitch was because he refused to leave.

I don't think Spurs used it to deliberately break up our game, but it certainly helped them hold on for a point so to hear AVB moaning about it now must leave our manager with a certain amount of chagrin over the bare faced cheek of the spurs manager. Villas Boas is trying to deflect criticism, but to blame Lukaku is completely ridiculous.

Bill Belekas
41 Posted 07/11/2013 at 22:39:45
In my parents' country, they have a certain word that best describes AVB... The word is MALAKA.

Translated into English, its similar to a name of a person: Wanye Kerr...

Gary Poole
42 Posted 07/11/2013 at 22:53:10
Great stuff from RM. Very elegant but very POINTED!!!

AVB is an arse who is simply trying to deflect attention from the fact that it was Lloris who ran the show and ran onto the pitch when all the medics were telling him to get off - it was a total fuck up for them. Fortunately, no harm was done.....

Pity we couldn't sneak a goal.......

Gerry Quinn
43 Posted 07/11/2013 at 23:13:08
It's Latin for "with dignity" - sorry for the un-Spanish confusion :)
Brian Denton
44 Posted 07/11/2013 at 23:52:29
Actually, in correct Latin it would be "cum dignitate" - surely Gerry you haven't forgotten that cum takes the ablative case......?

Togam meam colligebo.

Gary Poole
45 Posted 08/11/2013 at 00:30:53
Boys - is this a first for TW - a grammatical spat about Latin. I feel like I need a lie down.
Gerry Quinn
46 Posted 08/11/2013 at 02:44:32
Ah, yes, Brian, my old school days at St. Mary's College being taught by those ever so "Christian" Brothers! Latin is a language as dead as dead can be......first it killed the Romans, now its killing me!
Tom Fazal
47 Posted 08/11/2013 at 03:04:58
Brian #667, I think Gerry may be right, although I too, was "taught" latin aka thrashed into me, by 'Christian Brothers' at the other camp, I mean school, St Edwards in West Derby, so we could have shared a questionable education. The Catholic SS, sorry I mean 'Christian Brothers' also wore gowns, are you trying to tell us something?

Gary #670 Once 'educated' by 'Christian Brothers' you were always concerned about Latin Grammar since the swoosh of the strap to hand was never far behind and unfortunately I was a slow Latin learner:o(

Paul Rimmer
49 Posted 08/11/2013 at 07:02:56
Fidem vita fateri Gerry.
Peter Mills
50 Posted 08/11/2013 at 07:44:38
Some old traumas being awakened by these last few comments. Paul#681, these days I stick to showing my faith by what I write!
Tony McNulty
51 Posted 08/11/2013 at 09:01:06
Re the recent comments, when your boyhood days are over they're over. You're now on the broad highway of life.
Peter Mills
52 Posted 08/11/2013 at 09:24:01
Fair comment Tony, but thoughts will arise of games we've played and songs we've sung.
Matt Traynor
53 Posted 08/11/2013 at 09:15:45
Jaysus it's like a reunion on here. Anyone know if the Old Boys is still going on Moor Lane?
Peter Mills
54 Posted 08/11/2013 at 09:40:06
No Matt. I've had many happy nights there, including the memorable one when the RS won the European Cup for the first time. Every pub in Crosby was jammed with RS after the match, the Old Boys was the only refuge for all Blues. One of their lot wandered in at about 11.30 to be hit with a barrage of abuse from all assembled. He turned round and quietly left.

There was a falling out between the Old Boys and the school some years ago, the club kept going for a while. However, I walked past yesterday and there is a "To Let" board on the door.

Denis Richardson
55 Posted 08/11/2013 at 09:54:49
Great response by RM, AVB needs to just shut the fk up.

On the player front, I think RM is right, a 4th official/medical person or even the ref should be the one making this kind of decision and not the manager. I.e. someone neutral.

The Spurs players around Lloris were really concerned for him and thought he should go off and the player himself blacked out for a while and couldn't remember anything, he couldnt even stand up properly for a couple of minutes. The manager is not going to want to make a substitution if he doesn't have to and I was really surprised AVB kept Lloris on - it shows that he cares more about the result that the well being of one of his players! Football is important but not that important! Who knows what would have happened if Lloris had received another blow to the head aftewards, e.g. coming out for a corner etc.

I uses to like AVB and felt sorry for him at Chelsea but his recent actions have really turned me off him. He seems to be both blinded by ambition as well as being an immature prick at times.

Gerard McGregor
56 Posted 08/11/2013 at 11:33:56
AVP has lost a lot sympathy if not a lot of respect on this one.
He also showed little respect for his medical advisor and his substitute GK.
And, just to add something to the mix; was the 1O minute delay before the decision was made to keep the GK on anything to do with a deliberate attempt to knock the rythm out of Everton's play at a time they were clearly on top and going for the win?
Sean Kelly
57 Posted 08/11/2013 at 13:10:50
AVB is an arsehole and a bullshitter. Listening to him would bore you to tears. His actions or lack of them on Sunday tell a lot about him. He can't control his players. He had no influence on the keeper.

If he is the manager, he calls the shots after getting advice from the medical team. They were clearly indicating that Lloris was out of it. Nearly 40000 people saw it and yet he allows a half witted keeper to say he's okay. JOKER!

I think AVB is a spoofer as was proven at Chelsea and is being proven again at Spurs. He hasn't improved on Harry's team even after all the money he's spent. I'm looking forward to seeing it fall apart at Spurs again this season.

RM meanwhile is just class personified. In one sentence, he is telling AVB to fuck off (very nicely by the way) and also telling us Billy has a meter on the phone. CLASS!

Tom Bowers
58 Posted 08/11/2013 at 14:07:10
Village idiot Boas is a manager greatly overrated and should keep his mouth shut until he has really done something worthwhile in the Prem.

He failed at Chelski which did not surprise me and now has spent millions at Spurs who are far from looking like a top team yet.

He screwed up with the Loris situation and should have stood firm in replacing him after the injury.

Tony Heslop
59 Posted 08/11/2013 at 15:34:55
And each old association, every brother, master ...........BOY
In our hearts will find a place most wondrous kind.
Gerry Quinn
60 Posted 08/11/2013 at 15:49:12
Last word on Latin.....from the list of former pupils of St Mary's in Wiki, this one raised my eyebrows and gave me the impression that he must have paid real close attention in class to the skirted ones...

Frank McLardy – WW2 traitor, Liverpool District Secretary of the British Union of Fascists; founder member of the Waffen-SS British Free Corps; later served as SS-Unterscharfúhrer in the Waffen-SS Medical Corps. Sentenced to life imprisonment (reduced to 15 years) on his return to England. Served seven years and later emigrated to Germany, where he worked as a pharmacist.

Tony McNulty
61 Posted 08/11/2013 at 16:02:06
I wonder what friends he made when hearts were young?

Bit sad we can all remember that shite which sits there like black through a lobster after all these years (actually they never threw any lobsters - usually chalk and board dusters in my day)

Denis Richardson
62 Posted 08/11/2013 at 16:00:42
Haha - read post 746 and I thought wtf? Had to double check I was on the right website!

I was expecting some sort of AVB in NAZI relation expose shock! Then realised it was part of the thread earlier (hadn't read the previous posts...)

Would have been enough for a daily mail journo!

Paul Rimmer
63 Posted 08/11/2013 at 16:59:39
Still waiting to reap my golden harvest....I was there 84-91 and can vouch for the board duster treatment.
Matt Geraghty
64 Posted 08/11/2013 at 20:58:16
RM wasn't my first choice when he was appointed in the summer.

Since then he has revitalised the team with some great signings, and the overall football being played has been of a higher standard than under our previous manager. He has brought class and dignity back to our club, and totally changed my mind about him.

I'll be wearing my lucky socks on Saturday, so relax everyone, they guarantee a win.

COYB'S

Andy Meighan
65 Posted 08/11/2013 at 21:15:44
How come it took him 4 days to open his trap? Why didn't he come right out after the game and say something? This is another smokescreen to disguise his expensively assembled sides shortcomings in front of goal.

They were delighted after the game with that point hence their players whoops and high fives. As Walker said, what an intimidating place to come... Yes, that's us, Kyle, we like to give southern teams a nice friendly welcome.

Anyway, AVB wants to try and get rid of that chest infection he's had for the last few years... Aaaaggh! — just spotted Kenwright on that Elvis tribute on ITV. I'm off to bed.

Frank Duffy
66 Posted 08/11/2013 at 21:24:33
Well said Ross. AVB has spent a fortune in England and has won nothing. Says it all and I struggle to understand him when he talks on TV.
Eugene Ruane
67 Posted 08/11/2013 at 21:53:51
I'm waiting for Kenwight's apology for ruining 'The Nation's Favourite Elvis Song'.

Just got settled to watch it and there's his fat spoofing napper hyperbole-ing all over the show.

Mind you to be fair, didn't he have a secret night out with Elvis and Tommy Steele in 1959.

If I remember correctly, they started in Ma Eggertons, bit of a crawl around town then a taxi to the Gravvy.

(apparently Bill got his hole but the other two got KB'd and ended up going to The Green Spot for a scran).

Peter Mills
68 Posted 09/11/2013 at 10:23:46
To those interested in Everton and education, I recommend the recent Desert Island Discs episode with Sir Ken Robinson.
Derek Thomas
69 Posted 09/11/2013 at 11:02:44
I believe that Sir Ken R is the brother of former Blues Fullback Neil Robinson
Brent Stephens
70 Posted 09/11/2013 at 12:00:15
Yes, Neil's brother. A great piece by or on Neil on TW a while back.

And Sir Ken's TED presentations are great - see that Youtube thingy.

Denis Byrne
71 Posted 09/11/2013 at 13:50:46
Had no idea Ken Robinson was Neils brother! When I was a student at Swansea I used to work in the local supermarket and Neil often came in to do his shopping, lovely friendly guy - used to give him free veg.
An absolute must to view is Sir Kens TED Talk. Might resonate with Gerry, Tom etc

http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_says_schools_kill_creativity.html


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