Would Everton really sell Harrison Armstrong to Nottingham Forest?

Dave Abrahams
1 Posted 29/08/2026 at 10:00:55

Harrison Armstrong going to Forest for £40M, with Everton getting a % of any future deals when Harrison is sold!

If true, then our owners do what they want when they want. It is also reported that Armstrong is not likely to be part of Everton’s squad today.

Rob Jones
2 Posted 29/08/2026 at 10:01:44

If they sell Armstrong, on top of all the other fuckery this window, I might actually be done with Everton.

John Collins
3 Posted 29/08/2026 at 10:02:52

Best midfielder at the club for me.

If this is true, that's me done.

Rob Jones
4 Posted 29/08/2026 at 10:10:49

I'm genuinely gutted. What are we even doing as a club?

No heart, no soul... manager's a fucking dinosaur, the fanbase I'm growing to despise, the CEO is a fucking charlatan, we see Moshiri more than the fucking owners, and we're seemingly selling our future to accommodate old men.

Steve Brown
5 Posted 29/08/2026 at 10:13:09

The shit will hit the fan if this deal goes through.

Rob Jones
6 Posted 29/08/2026 at 10:15:33

If true, is this from Moyes (who said openly Armstrong wouldn't even have been on the pitch had the senior players been available), or Kinnear?

Kevin Molloy
7 Posted 29/08/2026 at 10:19:16

As if Moyes is wanting to sell Armstrong.

This is the arseholes in charge. This is what he’s working with.

Kunal Desai
8 Posted 29/08/2026 at 10:21:34

I can't see this happening. He'll develop over the next two seasons into a fine player with us and will move on to a much bigger club than Forest for well over £100M+.

From a business perspective, this would make absolutely no sense... particularly when you know this investment will be well over double in two season's time.

Steve Brown
9 Posted 29/08/2026 at 10:23:51

Hopefully just his agent pushing Everton for a bumper new deal.

As Kunal says, he could be worth £100M in a few seasons.

John Collins
10 Posted 29/08/2026 at 10:30:24

Kevin,

In a fully fit squad, do you think Moyes would have Armstrong in his starting 11?

John Cook
11 Posted 29/08/2026 at 10:32:30

Latest rumour: we are selling Armstrong for £40M to Forest.

If there is any truth in this, then personally I would be finished with this club after 63 years.

Kevin Molloy
12 Posted 29/08/2026 at 10:36:48

In a fully fit squad, I reckon he’d get about 15-20 starts this season, John.

Rocco Bugaj
13 Posted 29/08/2026 at 10:39:42

Losing Armstrong would be a bitter blow. The lad is already outstanding and still has a lot of potential.

If Armstrong and Ndiaye are sold, we’ll know what the owners have in mind for our club.

John Collins
14 Posted 29/08/2026 at 10:40:06

Despite Moyes's indication that (paraphrase) he's only playing due to injury, Kevin?

"Moyes suggested that Armstrong would not perhaps have been playing as much if Everton had a full complement of midfielders available, with James Garner only fit enough for the bench and Christian Nørgaard and Tim Iroegbunam out injured."

Ian Wilkins
15 Posted 29/08/2026 at 10:41:59

If we sell Armstrong for a £40M package, a future star, potentially England star — selling our best potential — and at a time when average players are moving for ridiculous fees, then we have a real problem.

We are either desperate financially... are we? Shouldn't be...

Or the owners have zero ambition for our club and we all need to call it a day. Ndiaye, Armstrong, being considered for sale… we're supposed to be improving not going backwards.

Kevin Molloy
16 Posted 29/08/2026 at 10:42:02

Well he's not wrong, is he?

Unless we're going to play him consistently ahead of Garner or Norgaard.

John Collins
17 Posted 29/08/2026 at 10:47:25

You said he would play more than half of the games 5 minutes ago Kevin.

Who drops out?

Kevin Molloy
18 Posted 29/08/2026 at 10:48:43

Are you assuming everyone stays fit all season in centre mid? Why would you do that?

Brian Harrison
19 Posted 29/08/2026 at 10:50:44

As usual the nearer we get to the transfer window closing the more ridiculous the claims.

I don't believe there is any truth in this Armstrong claim, I believe he is going to be a top player so why would you sell him now when in 2 years he could be worth £100M?

The one thing we know about TFG is they want to invest in young players -- not sell them before they reach their potential.

John Collins
20 Posted 29/08/2026 at 10:57:19

I'm assuming you stated he would start more than half the games?

Let's do a bit more assuming and imagine a scenario with no serious injuries to midfielders... Again, who drops out?

Liam Mogan
21 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:01:37

This has come so far out of left field that it feels like a punch in the stomach.

Everton, for fuck's sake...

Scott Hamilton
22 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:12:55

I fucking hope not!!!

Rocco Bugaj
23 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:14:12

Armstrong could be our future!

I wouldn't even entertain the idea of selling him. And £40M?! What is Forest thinking?

Kevin Naylor
24 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:14:38

Harrison is our modern day Martin Dobson who was pure class. Might as well pack in football if this happens.

Kevin Molloy
25 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:17:54

Where did I say he'd start more than half the games?

John Cook
26 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:18:15

If there is any truth in this, then I will be finished with this club after 63 years of support.

In my opinion, selling Armstrong would be worse than when we sold Rooney, as circumstances changed. Also, Rooney went to a much better club at the time.

Are we that bad financially that we have to sell Armstrong? If so, we might as well wrap the club up now. If true, cuee mass demos and resignations over this.

Nil satis nisi optimum — my arse.

Andrew Ellams
27 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:19:49

Anybody mising Moshiri yet?

John Collins
28 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:19:58

Post #12, Kevin.

Kevin Molloy
29 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:21:09

15-20? how is that more than half?

Ian Wilkins
30 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:22:04

Aside from an insulting offer for a young rising star ( Anderson just moved for £120M), Norgaard is over 30 and not fit; Iroegbunam is up for sale... Armstrong is not way down the pecking order any longer.

We shouldn't be selling our best players. We should be improving our squad -- not weakening it. I don't mind Aznou going on loan, he needs to play, but there must be another left back option. Who is that...?

Danny James
31 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:23:29

No, we will not be selling him to Forest

John Collins
32 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:23:54

38 league games.

Your idol normally gets us kayoed in the early cup round games, so near enough.

Pete Hughes
33 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:24:26

I can't see this happening, tbh.

I can see Moyes walking if it does though?

Future Everton and England captain, no way!!!

Garry Martin
34 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:25:04

I suspect the 'penny counters' are running the show and profit is king.

I also suspect Moyes, in the past, would see Armstrong as the future and he has learnt over the years that you have to obey the money men.

Terry Downes
35 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:25:36

Well, it's certainly stopped the fans worrying over who we're signing!

Raymond Fox
36 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:26:00

We wont sell Armstrong, but you can bet your bottom pound that the usual merchants will have him in their sights for the future.

I think the Ndiaye, Grealish shenanigans will happen though, if they can sort out Grealish's contract.

Nicolas Piñon
37 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:26:37

£100M — minimum!!

Jim Bennings
38 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:27:19

If it did happen, it would just tell me that we are fucking skint!

Kevin Molloy
39 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:27:43

If this has been covered by Joyce and Ornstein, Raymond... I wouldn't be so sure if I were you.

James Fletcher
40 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:28:06

If he plays today, then I think Harrison has secured himself as one of the first names on the team sheet.

Why the fuck would we sell, let alone sell at a massive discount?

Kevin Molloy
41 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:34:45

However did Declan Rice play under Moyes?

He must have known Moyes never picks young players under any circumstances... what was he thinking?

Alan McGuffog
42 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:36:36

Why not go the whole hog and let him go to the Reds for £25M?

Alan Corken
43 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:38:36

Jake and Harrison, apparently pushing for a move, paired with Moyes downbeat comments (like the warm up act for the lutine bell), it gives a worrying impression that all is not well behind the scenes

Andrew Ellams
44 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:38:42

There's a lot of people thinking this won't happen because they don't want it to.

When it's a couple of days before the end of the window and both Ornstein and The Bobble are reporting on it, then you can be sure talks are at least happening.

Paul Clements
46 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:39:27

To Forest? Are you having a laugh??? He was at a bigger club with Preston.

£40M + Gibbs White -- or tell their fat low-life owner to do one.

Gavin Johnson
47 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:45:03

I would rather we sell Ndiaye over Armstrong. He would be one of the last players we should sell.

Andrew Merrick
48 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:45:41

I'm speechless.

Steve Brown
49 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:45:48

If Harrison is not in the squad, he is gone.

Aznou on loan to Malaga.

Rob Jones
50 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:46:41

Looks like he's gone.

Mike Doyle
51 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:47:22

I concur with Raymond (27) and Jim (29).

Also agree with Kevin (19) that Harrison resembles a young Martin Dobson. If he went on to resemble the mature Martin Dobson, we'd be delighted.

Andrew Clare
52 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:48:45

If a club starts selling its best players it becomes quite clear that they are completely out of the picture as far as challenging for trophies is concerned.

I'm beginning to realise that I have been completely deluded for a long time now regarding Everton winning anything.

Kevin Molloy
53 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:52:13

Ornstein on TNT says it's going through and he's not in the squad, apparently.

Andrew Merrick
54 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:55:18

Fecking outraged...

The kid's a winner through and through.

Kevin Naylor
55 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:55:51

Everyone should boycott the next home game if true.

Lee Courtliff
56 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:56:09

I'm not as convinced by this lad as most seem to be; to me, he looks like a promising young player who could develop. I don't want to sell him, I want us to keep him and see him grow into a fine player.

But, I seem to remember quite a few being outraged that we sold Rodwell (who I never rated); yet, after a couple of years, it became apparent that we'd had City's pants down!

That could easily happen again with this lad, you just don't know... Wayne Rooney or Michael Branch? The only thing that would really bother me is if we don't reinvest the money wisely.

And not on some 'old, experienced' player.

Raymond Fox
57 Posted 29/08/2026 at 11:59:21

If we do sell, I think the owners are taking the piss. I can't see Moyes wanting to sell him, he better than most will know that that us fans will be jumping mad.

If it is true we can forget any ambition we might be clinging to.

Steve Brown
58 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:03:11

TFG and Moyes on short notice now.

A couple of bad results and this will turn nasty.

Kevin Naylor
59 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:06:19

Imagine if the RS sold their young lad Rio to say Crystal Palace, can you imagine the reaction.

Dean Johnson
60 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:07:51

Sounds like a wind-up to me.

If true, then it would validate where The Friedkin Group sees Everton in their thinking.

Just go to their website -- Roma is easy to reach, loud and proud; Everton are buried within the menus... Says it all.

Ian Burns
61 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:09:02

This Armstrong move is gathering pace and, if this boy is sold, I am done once and for all.

My first game was in 1960 and for me only the sale of Alan Ball would surpass this sale as the worst piece of business I will have witnessed.

If this goes through, the club should hang its collective heads in shame!

Paul Washington
62 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:11:03

What the fuck is going on??

The club need to put a statement out now!

Ian Wilkins
63 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:11:22

It feels like we have to sell for some reason... why else are we doing this? We're not falling foul of SCR, constrained a little yes, but not breaking limits.

Is it about cash, need to pay Burnley, forthcoming Dividends to selves..? Mystifying, but if we're doing this sort of thing then we'll never see Everton in Europe or competing for trophies with current owners.

Colin Glassar
64 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:12:19

I don't usually come on here but, if we sell Armstrong, I hope we get fucking relegated and, eventually, fold. This fucking club has ripped the heart out of me.

First Ball, then Rooney... now the best young prospect we've had in years. And to fucking scabs like Nottingham Forest?

Rob Jones
65 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:13:27

Colin, I'm right on the border of that myself.

After the past few years, it's hard to get that angry because you're just fucking numb. This has been a kick in the nuts, though.

Colin Glassar
66 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:21:30

This club lost its soul a long time ago, Rob. The managed decline started under Johnson and then Kenwright, increased under Moshiri, and now full throttle with these fucking cowboys.

They seem quite happy with mid-table survival and squeezing a few million quid out of Bramley-Moore Dock by staging concerts and the like. Absolutely disgraceful.

Craig Burrell
67 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:24:37

If this goes through, I think I am done with Everton.

If we needed money, we should have sold Tim instead of letting him risk injury. Sell Ndiaye and don't replace him if we are so skint (but still buy a right-back). Sell Alcaraz, Keane, Tarkowski... even Pickford or Dewsbury-Hall if we really had to. Keep people who are only going to get better though!

One wonders if this is deliberate rumour spreading so that, if we sell O'Brian instead, everyone settles for the lesser of two evils.

Let's just hope it's tabloid rubbish. If he goes and the club try to spin it like he wanted to leave (like they usually do) then questions should be asked why this keeps happening.

Gerry Ring
68 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:27:32

This is beyond belief! I couldn't understand why Moyes didn't play him at the end of last season.

If this is true and the inevitable transfer of O'Brien, then this club is not interested in success.

Part of the problem is having a manager whose ultimate ambition is to avoid relegation. Shocking if true!

Ian Pilkington
69 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:28:22

Bad enough facing up to another season of Moyes, but this is totally ludicrous and surely beyond belief to second raters Forest.

Colin correctly mentions Ball and Rooney but this betrayal by the club would be inexplicable. This would definitely finish me off after 65 years.

Julian Exshaw
70 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:28:38

This would have huge repercussions if true. Actually he's the last player I'd have expected us to sell.

The fans won't tolerate this and whoever thinks it's good idea for the club, had better think again!!

Kevin Naylor
71 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:31:17

Now reached the BBC website.

Andrew Clare
72 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:32:42

To all Evertonians,

I feel exactly the same as you all do. I have been a blue since the early sixties. We are being sold down the river by a bunch of money men. Our ownership has gone from bad to worse for years now.

Everton died as a force decades ago and now the final nail is going in the coffin if this transfer goes ahead.

Mike Price
73 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:34:44

I'd rather have Armstrong than Anderson right now. He's clearly a future England player..

Surely they can't be that stupid!

John Collins
74 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:34:48

If this is true, and Harrison is being sold without managerial approval, Moyes should take an example from Eddie Howe's moral stand and resign.

Kevin Naylor
75 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:34:51

I'd sooner have Forest's owner -- at least he wants the club to succeed.

Colin Glassar
76 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:36:22

Sell Armstrong, Ndiaye and O'Brien but keep Keane, Patterson and Beto? That is Everton in a nutshell.

No wonder Ndiaye might be pushing to move on. Who could blame him?

Oh, and let's get a 30-year-old Jack Grealish (£300k p/w) to freshen up the squad.

Ian Wilkins
77 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:37:09

Am sure the Nydiaye/ Grealish thing is happening, so why the need for this? Madness.

I don't think anybody else is really interested in Grealish, and Man City want rid, so surely no fee involved…

Jimmy Carr
78 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:37:29

This is unspeakably bad on a number of levels, a kick in the teeth for anyone hoping for a decent season, but the fans will tolerate it, BMD will still be sold out for most home games this season and the Friedkins will still pick up their cheques.

There'll be a few protests here and there but they'll be waved away, then Angus will come along and tell us we're in the market for a right-back next summer.

Something must be happening behind the scenes, and if this deal is being made over Moyes's head, then it would explain his surly demeanour for the past few weeks.

Michael Kenrick
79 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:37:59

It's shockingly simple, unfortunately.

Moyes might like him but he would spend most of the season on the bench. Just like he did for the last 8 games of last season under our Supreme Leader.

Jimmy Carr
80 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:40:05

Michael (77) are you saying Moyes is at fault for this?

Kevin Molloy
81 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:42:19

Tragically Jimmy yes he is.

Craig Burrell
82 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:44:49

Jimmy Carr 76

You middle paragraph could have been written by your namesake :) Very funny indeed yet with that large dose of truth included which should worry us all..

Tony Hughes
83 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:45:06

At a stage when we should have brought in, at the very least, four or five more players, we find ourselves in a position where we could be selling one of the best young players in the league with possibly Ndiaye to follow once City decide they want him.
TFG have come in and got a nice, shiny new stadium on a plate to milk the Club and they've shown zero, fucking ambition on the playing side.

Colin Glassar
84 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:46:00

Phil McNulty - BBC (who I trust) said he’d be very surprised if Everton agree to this. McNulty is usually on the money when it comes to transfer rumours concerning Everton. So I’ll pray he’s right and it’s just a question of the greasy Greek causing trouble.

John Collins
85 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:47:57

If Moyes is not arranging the sale he is definitely condoning the sale forced on him
Eddie Howe showed moral conviction by walking away in similar circumstances.
Anyone think David has the same morals?

Jack Convery
86 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:49:04

The problem is that academy products, that are sold, the fee received is pure profit.

A real kick in the guts for the fan base if true. I hope the kid says no and gets a new contract from EFC, that is worthy of his talent. Forest are hardly a stable club and by the end of the season, he could have had 1 even 2 different managers.

A real pity we didn't get Glasner, when we had the chance and yes I know they've lost their first couple of games.

Nigel Scowen
87 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:49:10

Just because Forests interest is real, it doesn’t mean our intention to sell is also real. £40 million is an insult and the TFG are business people.

Derek Thomas
88 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:49:11

Why? £40 Million, that's why - yeah but apart from that.

Why do we (or should that be a 'who') actually needs £40 Million? right now at this late juncture in proceedings.
Have the egos got so much out of control?
Who t f is running this shit show.

Kevin Naylor
89 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:49:42

Unstabilises the team for today as both Ndiaye and Armstrong probably wont play if they are both up for moves. Today could end very poorly.

Len Hawkins
90 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:50:14

I don't believe in Ghosts but I could be persuaded if some one sees a teary eyed apparition roaming the boardroom with £ signs for eyes rubbing his hands with glee.

John Collins
91 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:52:31

Len,

Hes just sent a message via a clairvoyant.
"£40 MILLION WOULD NOT BUY HIS LEFT BOOT"

Frankie McGrath
92 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:53:38

This is just depressing. £40m is way too low for such a bright prospect but more importantly why why why??? Crazy. I sincerely hope this doesn’t happen.

Julian Exshaw
93 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:55:01

Michael @77. But he's our future. He's the best homegrown talent we've had since Rooney. I wouldn't expect him to play every game this season but selling him to Forest!! Never. This feels like something you'd read on April 1st., it's that ludicrous.

Mark Ryan
94 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:55:11

Nothing to see here

Tommy Carter
95 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:55:43

I think Moyes would be ok with this. And that is the worry. If Kinnear and TFG place the final say with Moyes, Armstrong will be leaving. It takes the pressure off Moyes having to play him and gives him ammunition for the future of ‘they sell all our best/young players’.

I would argue that Armstrong is almost a priceless commodity for us. There’s a chance he might not develop into the player we hope he will. However he’s the only homegrown player in the last decade to look anything like a long term prospect for us. Homegrown players - they give you something a purchased talent from elsewhere never will - they are part of the fabric of the club, they are made of the fabric of the society and Everton and Liverpool should always, always have a scouser in their first team.

Lester Yip
96 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:55:51

The plan is to use the money to get Tom Davies and Jack Rodwell back.

Kunal Desai
97 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:56:41

Just get rid of the lot of them.

Moyes, blagger salesmen Kinnear and Dan Friedkin, disgusting behaviour between the lot of them. Just simply fuck off all of you.

Whilst your at it demolish BMD, and move back to Goodison. There is no point. This club won't do anything tangible in my lifetime.

Kevin Naylor
98 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:58:48

Ironically Forest beating the RS 1-0 currently.

Paul Hewitt
99 Posted 29/08/2026 at 12:58:59

Armstrong won't play today apparently

Kevin Naylor
100 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:00:50

Spoke too soon.

Steve Dowdeswell
101 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:00:53

So we may end end selling Armstrong and Ndiaye the day before the transfer window closes or on deadline day with who lined up to come in to replace them? No one as far as I can see - possibly Grealish who is way older than both with maybe 2-3 seasons in him if he is fully fit.
Maybe Nørgaard will be a blinding light when he is fit but who knows when thst is going to be. Nørgaard saying hopefully soon, Moyes saying nowhere near ready.

Yet again the Everton medical team seem to lengthen injuries. Fully expect Barry to be out for weeks after a knock in the week...

Still no word on that ever elusive right back and a striker we are so desperate for (is that 4 seasons now?).

So who is running the recruitment team who has final say on who comes in and can someone just make a fucking decision and get some much needed over on certain positions in ASAP.

Eric Myles
102 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:01:35

No.

Ajay Gopal
103 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:01:39

I would be shocked, completely shocked, if this sale goes through. I always questioned the purchase of Hackney - I did not see the logic in that, when we already have a potential future midfield star in Armstrong. If this goes through, I echo Colin - I hope this club gets relegated! If Moyes stays back after (if it happens) this sale happens, then I will conclude that he is in bed with Kinnear and the Friedkins. If he resigns over this matter, I would respect him forever.

Bill Gall
104 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:01:52

Spoke to soon, Kevin.

Kevin Naylor
105 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:03:03

Offside!

Dale Self
106 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:03:07

John 72,

I was absolutely against this but, if you are stating Moyes will resign as part of the outcome, well... let me think about that over coffee.

Kevin Naylor
107 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:04:18

Moyes give up money over principles...?

Erm...

John Collins
108 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:04:43

I'm stating he won't, Dale.

Too much self-importance.

Kevin Molloy
109 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:07:33

Is that why he walked away from a 4-year contract with Sunderland? Cos he's just a money grabber?

Do we know any other manager who told his club 'Don't worry, I'm not going to hold you to that four years you promised me'?

Kunal Desai
110 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:08:13

Moyes won't resign. It's all a front by all. Said it last week. Everyones happy in this scenario.

Horrible horrible lot.

Ajay Gopal
111 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:08:55

Quoting from Phil McNulty's article on the BBC. His thoughts are right on the money:

Losing Armstrong would be hard for fans to stomach - Analysis

The Friedkin Group, Everton's American owners, will be risking the fury of their own fanbase should they agree to the sale of Harrison Armstrong to Nottingham Forest.
The notion that Everton could even consider parting with Armstrong sparked an instant reaction of disbelief and anger among supporters, with the teenager regarded as their brightest home-grown prospect for years and a big hope for the future.
As yet, there are no indications that Everton will accept an offer, but Forest's interest is real, although it would be a real coup should they pull it off.
It would also send out worrying signals about the scale of TFG's ambitions.
Manager David Moyes has been frustrated by the club's lack of incoming transfer activity this summer.
Moyes made it abundantly clear after Wednesday's 4-0 Carabao Cup second-round win at Championship side Preston that he wanted reinforcements.
His hope was that TFG would provide backing for further arrivals.
Since then, however, Everton's main creator Iliman Ndiaye has been heavily linked with Manchester City, and now Forest are ready to test their resolve over Armstrong.
How Moyes would view, or indeed explain, such a sale, would be intriguing. It would appear totally at odds with his stated intention of building a better squad.
And while Everton and their support may have to accept their prize assets being spirited away by clubs such as Manchester City, the idea that their most promising young player could be taken away by Nottingham Forest – a club they would be expecting to challenge or even surpass – may be harder to stomach.
That is why the manner in which Everton handle Forest's approach for Armstrong, who has already excelled this season, may be a defining moment for TFG and Moyes."

Dale Self
112 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:09:52

John 106, Aw fuck!

Then hell no — don't sell to the whale. Fuck that guy.

Ian Bennett
113 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:12:36

Need to turn bid down, and put a big contract on the table.

Kevin Molloy
114 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:13:13

TFG don't give a fuck about the fanbase. They think we'll grumble about this and then move on.

I think they are in for a rude surprise.

John Collins
115 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:13:44

Kevin,

Finished 20th with 24 points at Sunderland.
Jumped before pushed.

Kevin Molloy
116 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:14:33

John yes, and thereby saved Sunderland millions.

Do you see the difference?

Dale Self
117 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:14:43

Wait, is this a setup for, "We had to sell Ndiaye, you see, but we held the line on Armstrong"?

I am feeling like Yossarian (Alan Arkin) in Catch-22, when he is looking at Richard Benjamin and Buck Henry saying, "All you have to do is like us!"

Colin Glassar
118 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:15:02

My hope is McNulty is right and we tell Forest to fuck off.

If not, tell Forest they can have Moyes and Kinnear as well.

Richard Smith
119 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:16:55

1) In a fully fit squad, our midfield three is likely to be Norgaard, Garner, Dewsbury-Hall with Armstrong, Hackney and Iroegbunam behind them.

2) A month ago, many people were asking if Armstrong should be loaned out for a season to the Championship.

3) In hindsight, it would have been better to have sold Ross Barkley for £50M when we could.

That said, I think this would be a bonkers sale and it would be much better to keep Armstrong and see him come through to be a No 1 choice over the next couple of years.

Christy Ring
120 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:17:25

The most promising young player we have since Rooney, will be worth over £100m in a couple of years, if we sell him the club is going backwards. The fans should let the club and owners know there feelings today, if he's not in thesquad. If he goes, Moyes should go, listening to him talking utter shite, saying he's only 19 and wouldn't be starting if the senior midfielders were fit, if you're good enough, you're old enough. Can they not even look at the bigger picture, are Forest more ambitious than us?

John Collins
121 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:17:38

You be best researching the leaving, financial deal Kevin.
Moyes walk away from 4 years ackers? 😂

Paul Hewitt
122 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:17:40

They did this sort of thing at Roma. But there fans really went mental. They won't do that again at Roma. English fans are different.

Eric Myles
123 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:18:27

Rob #2 and John #3. Can I have your season tickets?

Tony Hughes
124 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:21:29

Are Forest more ambitious than we are?
On the basis of this transfer window i'd say the majority of clubs in this league are.
Johnson, Hackney and an injured Norgaard are the sum total of new faces added to this squad

Michael Bennet
125 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:28:56

Were a feeder club for whoever has the right money, its allways been like that, and no one is going to stop supporting them.

Josh Horne
126 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:29:01

Not happening, outcome is a big contract for Armstrong. Ridiculous on all levels.

I did expect Forest to bid for Garner and thought that at the right price it would happen.

Mike Powell
127 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:29:16

Everton will not sell Armstrong,it would be madness , if it is true, but I very much doubt it, then they will feel the the full force of the fan base at next home game

John Collins
128 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:30:43

Mine is ready to be given away to the same kid who used it for 7 games last season.
If Armstrong goes he's got it for another 18 games

Ian Bennett
129 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:30:45

His pathway to becoming a solid first choice in Everton's midfield is strewn with roadblocks of the club's own making, which could of itself be a rationale for the player to move to pastures new that would surely almost guarantee a first-team place at such a critical juncture in his development.

Hmm, I don't see the roadblock at all. I just read an incredibly negative article that bemoans a lack of depth, and then bemoans competition for places. Can I remind the writer of the injury crises last winter

I see a player that has been playing in pre season games and the first two games of the season.

The speculation was that Iroegbunam was the one to be sold, leaving the midfield down by another number, and abother midfielder playing right back.

I see a club that needs to put proper wages on the table to ensure that Ndiaye & Armstrong are valued, by the club as much as the fans & rival clubs.

If you want to write a piece, bemoan a club that hasn't sorted out contracts for 2 star players. The issue is Ndiaye is on £45k and Armstrong on £1.2k. That is the issue.

Dale Self
130 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:32:14

So, we are all just waiting to see if Ndiaye is on the sheet, eh?

John Collins
131 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:33:06

"If you want to write a piece, bemoan a club that hasn't sorted out contracts for 2 star players"

Is there one out there?

Andrew Ellams
132 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:34:26

Plenty of Forest sites are claiming £40 m plus 10% sell on has been accepted

Christy Ring
133 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:34:47

Teamtalk are saying it's been said that having signed Norgaard, they're willing to listen to offers for Armstrong, Moyes must be involved in this, if so he should resign.

Jack Convery
134 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:35:12

If it happens will the "Police" warn the board to stay away from the next home game, as a threat of 50,000 Evertonians wearing balaclavas and carrying ropes will be after them. Then tell the press before hand why the aren't in attendance.. Thus distracting the story on to "Vile Fans" and not incompetent CEO, directors and manager.

Colin Glassar
135 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:36:33

True or false, this has ruined my weekend

Jeff Armstrong
136 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:36:54

Armstrong starts today😉

Chris Cole
137 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:39:06

WTAF? Anyone involved in the sanctioning of this deal for Armstrong needs to resign - clearly have no idea about the value of anything or anybody.
As for Nil Satis Nisi Optimum... get in the bin.
Worst and most depressing sale I can remember.

Mike Hayes
138 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:40:14

The bobble on X
Contrary to reports, Harrison Armstrong is set to be in the match-day squad against Bournemouth today. Meanwhile, Nottingham Forest are still pushing hard to sign the 19 year-old 🔵

Colin Glassar
139 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:42:46

After reading McNulty I feel a bit calmer now. Still fucking fuming though

Kevin Naylor
140 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:44:45

Hackney injured already FFS

Lee Jackson
141 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:45:06

Armstrong starts

Dave Abrahams
142 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:46:00

Jeff (134) Jeff the latest rumour/ fact is that Moyes has asked him to play today, maybe he should have told him before they travelled that he was playing, or that Harrison had told him he was going to Anfield to watch his new club beat Liverpool!

Jeff Armstrong
143 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:47:10

Hackney and Tim on bench, Tim could well be sold this week

Andy Meighan
144 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:47:15

Well I think were all in agreement on this one.

He's arguably been our best player in the 2 games so far, 40 million is an absolute insult to every fan connected with the club.

If it was say Chelsea United etc ie champions league clubs youd sort of get it but Forest ffs, and as Ian 59 said this'll be the worst bit of business since Ball went to Arsenal.

Sickened me this news just makes you wonder what is the point of supporting this mess of a club.

Andrew Ellams
145 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:47:27

There will no shortage of players playing today who'll move by Tuesday though

Tony Abrahams
146 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:48:20

The fans on the way down to Bournemouth, have already made a song telling our owners there will be riots if Harrison Armstrong, is sold, especially for an absolute pittance in this modern game.

Newcastle had to sell a very good home grown player to Forest, a couple of years ago because of PSR, and that same young player has just been sold for £120 million.

I’ve heard a lot of Liverpudlians, tell me that Curtis Jones, is shite. Well they had about seven years out of this allegedly shite player, and have now just sold him for £35 Million.

Don’t sell Armstrong, we think you simply don’t understand - that if you sell Armstrong, Harrison Armstrong, you’re gonna have a riot on yer hands.

Jeff Armstrong
147 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:50:40

Let’s hope that song gets across today Tony, pity weve got reduced away support.

Christy Ring
148 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:51:19

I've calmed down, he's starting, so hopefully that's the end of the story, and with Tim back on the bench, hopefully he's the one leaving

Nigel Scowen
149 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:51:22

Armstrong in the starting line up

Steve Brown
150 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:53:27

Aznou and Patterson are not on the bench.

Aznou is off on loan to Malaga and Patterson is bound to be sold.

Given Ndiaye and Armstrong are in the first team, I am a bit more positive about them staying.

Paul Hewitt
151 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:57:45

Just tell forest to fuck off. End of

David Israel
152 Posted 29/08/2026 at 13:59:04

If this should go ahead, it will, unfortunately abd disgracefully,be a re-run of the Wayne Rooney and Ross Barkey sagas; it will also be a sad measure of the anbition "driving" the new ownership; in other times, I could see David Moyes walking out if the transfer were forced upon him, like Joe Royle did when Red Johnson sold Duncan Ferguson to the Bar Codes!

Allan Board
153 Posted 29/08/2026 at 14:01:54

He's better than Garner and Norgard and Tim the unpronouncable- him and Hackney would be a great central pair going forward. Hope this is agents hedging for a better deal. Be typical Moyes/Everton though. Put Garner at Rb- hes decent there.

Colin Glassar
154 Posted 29/08/2026 at 14:02:28

Phew. Great to see Harrison starting. Screw Forrest and the pundits

Tony Abrahams
155 Posted 29/08/2026 at 14:06:48

More than anything Jeff, I just hope everyone starts getting angry and demanding more if I’m being honest mate. I know you think TSF, are doing a good job now which is only going to get better, but my own view is that we are Everton, and too many people have forgotten how great Everton Football Club, once where - which means that if history repeats itself (it usually does) then we can be great again.

I still have a picture in my eyes from when I was a child, and even though our neighbours were winning everything, whenever I used to walk down Goodison Rd, on match days, there used to be a certain belief and defiance in almost every single Evertonians that we were still the best club in the land.

After fourteen long years, Kendall’s team, showed us how to win again, but I honestly think that the Kenwright era, has kicked the shit out of us that much, that nobody is really prepared to demand that we deserve a lot more.

Loads on this thread have said that if Harrison Armstrong, goes, then that will be the end of themselves watching Everton. What happens if he stays, is everything suddenly alright again?

We are Everton fucking Football Club, and Evertonians, always used to demand a lot more….My honest belief is that some of the most loyal and passionate fans in the country, need to start demanding a lot more, because if they do and the owners listen, then it’s going to be a win-win situation for us both🤞

Annika Herbert
156 Posted 29/08/2026 at 14:13:12

I was mortified when I heard the news regarding Armstrong. In fact I pretty much ignored it because I couldn't believe Everton were even considering it

Now I am worried though. It would say an awful lot about how TFG see the future for us and how little ambition they have.

Moyes should be in everyone's face who is involved in this and telling them in no uncertain fashion that Armstrong isn't to be sold under any circumstances.

TFG will face an unholy backlash if this travesty is allowed to happen.

Gavin Johnson
157 Posted 29/08/2026 at 14:27:06

I've made my peace with Ndiaye going with Grealish coming the other way, but Harrison Armstrong being sold should not happen under any circumstances. We now have a very strong midfield and he is a major part of that, now, and for our future.

If he is sold I advocate TFG facing a major backlash similar to the one they had at Roma for sacking club legend De Rossi. Maybe not going as far as Roma fans and going to Angus Kinnear's home though.

Kinnear said judge us at the end of the 2nd summer transfer window, and he and TFG will be judged all right!!

Steve Jones
158 Posted 29/08/2026 at 14:30:52

Armstrong is an Evertonian and won’t be allowed to go.

On NDiaye Moyes stated in his presser that there may be truth in it.

Expect this one to happen plus others in as replacement. My choice would be Yilmaz as an upgrade with change in pocket.

Martin Doherty
159 Posted 29/08/2026 at 14:31:02

What sort of club are we? This kid is pure class, homegrown and is the future of our club. If they sell him we as fans need to make some sort of statement or protest. Our supporters have suffered too long and selling our brightest young stars means we are all going to be suffering a lot longer still.

Jeff Armstrong
160 Posted 29/08/2026 at 14:35:00

Seems to be a bit more to it than just a bid, words like negotiating being used rather than rejected!

Bobby Mallon
161 Posted 29/08/2026 at 14:38:18

Martin Doherty. I agree 100%. Armstrong is our future and the fans should boycott the ground. Sick to death of greedy bastards wanting to make money

Ian Pilkington
163 Posted 29/08/2026 at 15:00:59

The fact that second-raters Forest have had the cheek to make an offer sums up our standing.
The club should have made an immediate statement totally rejecting it.

Jack Convery
164 Posted 29/08/2026 at 15:01:45

Apparently - The Friedkin Group have shut down the replies to a post they shared about Harrison Armstrong earlier this year.

It's been spotted on X amid outrage among Everton fans about reported talks to sell the 19-year-old midfielder to Nottingham Forest.

Chris James
165 Posted 29/08/2026 at 15:03:30

£40M is a lot for a still raw talent, but I think it would be madness, especially at this stage of the window.

Paul Olsen
166 Posted 29/08/2026 at 15:20:12

So much doom and gloom. What are we Evertonians eating to become this miserable? Surely he won't move for such a low sum. Sounds made up

Paul Olsen
167 Posted 29/08/2026 at 15:23:26

Arnstrong looks promising, but I believe we are once again overhyping a local talent. I haven't seen the "future England and Everton-captain" some have seen. Such hype always lead to disappointment and unneccessary pressure.

Colin Glassar
168 Posted 29/08/2026 at 15:56:08

Seems like every homegrown player (since Rooney) are not considered good enough by a section of our fans.

With the sell, sell, sell mindset, we'll never develop our young talent.

Christy Ring
169 Posted 29/08/2026 at 15:58:02

Paul time for you to go to SpecSavers

Ian Wilkins
170 Posted 29/08/2026 at 16:05:54

Interesting social media exchange between Alan Myers and Elton Welsby asking are Everton really considering selling Armstrong and their better players..
Myers said wouldn’t surprise him if TFG sold the club, they don’t seem interested in taking it forwards on the pitch…

Martin Farrington
171 Posted 29/08/2026 at 16:20:47

So according to TeamTalk the bid is official.

Reading through it, their "inside source(s)" state various things. Armstrong is now stuck behind Hackney and Norgaard. His chances being limited their source says Armstrong is keen to move. The uncertainty of playing, but the main draw being Glasner.

You can read it yourselves. It jumps about a bit. But Everton are seriously considering it. Having been rebuffed by Spurs, with a huge wedge of cash burning a hole in their pocket, I believe Forest are now trying to take advantage of the dysfunctional situation between Moyes, Kinnear and the ever absent and silent TFG.

Armstrong, whilst a work in progress, has everything to gain and nothing to lose if this deal is sanctioned. Moyes is a woeful manager for developing talent. He has no interest whatsoever. His pride in being disliked by them sums him up. It's further reflected by his manner, attitude and lack of selections.

Heaven knows what the youngsters do then feel in between games, but they always appear confused and out of sorts if, that's a big if -- they are selected and play in the next game.

Glasner would bring him on and improve him immensely in my opinion, appreciating the lad. But what does this all say about the club? Moyes having heard his bosses opinion of him when Kinnear was asked about the team's finish last season.

The clearly disjointed approach to investing in the playing squad, well lack of, irks manager and fans alike. CEO Kinnear not at all calming these worries at a further consecutive relatively inactive window which are all being seen as failures despite his corporate responses.

TFG anonymous behind their wall of silence.

Stu Darlington
172 Posted 29/08/2026 at 16:30:28

I don’t think Armstrong will be going anywhere.

Looks like a classic deflection tactic right out of the Donald Trump playbook.Set a hare running and get people riled up enough to talk about it and it diverts people’s attention away from the real issue which to me is the clubs abject failure to provide us with 2 FB’s,a cover CB and a goal scorer with the transfer window almost over.

Judging by this thread,seems to have worked perfectly!

Conspiracy theories are the best!

Neil Blaney
173 Posted 29/08/2026 at 16:46:14

I take it back 😊

John Collins
174 Posted 29/08/2026 at 16:58:39

A Rolls-Royce of a player, Armstrong. Watch what he develops into over the next 18 months.

Hopefully in an Everton shirt.

Colin Glassar
175 Posted 29/08/2026 at 16:59:51

Stu, I agree. Might be cover for the sale of another player.

Or, keeping Armstrong will be like signing a new player?

David West
176 Posted 29/08/2026 at 17:09:38

John 172, I know you and I are big fans.
If we can't keep a scouser, Evertoinian, excellent prospect before he's really established himself ( been excellent though)
Then what's the point ??

Think I'd sell Garner before him, believe he could go on to well eclipse Jimmy.

Ian Horan
177 Posted 29/08/2026 at 17:31:52

£40 mill is to low, given we paid £40 mill for Dibling last summer and as we are seeing bang average players moving for stupid money, we need to state £65 mill and a buy back clause at an agreed fee or a 25% sell on clause. ffs Tonali from Magpies went for £100 mill Andreson £115 mill.

we need to become more arrogant in the value of our players, theres no bank pressure to sell so play hard ball

Ian Bennett
178 Posted 29/08/2026 at 17:54:55

David Moyes on Harrison Armstrong:

"There's been an offer. Apart from that I don't think there's much else I can say, it's a club decision. We don't want to lose anybody and we still need to add players to what we've got. I've been saying it for a while."

John Collins
179 Posted 29/08/2026 at 17:56:45

It's official.
TFG are the culprits 😁

Kunal Desai
180 Posted 29/08/2026 at 18:00:46

Unless TFG are going to listen to the fanbase, he'll be sold.

Luke Welch
181 Posted 29/08/2026 at 18:06:11

When asked what Moyes had to say to fans regarding transfers, he said he is an Evertonian.

Ray Jacques
182 Posted 29/08/2026 at 18:10:04

Is this a sick joke? Selling Armstrong to Forest?

Christy Ring
183 Posted 29/08/2026 at 18:16:03

The fans were singing today, "If Armstrong is sold, there will be a riot''.

For the owners to be even considering a bid for Armstrong, they've no interest in moving the club forward or have no ambition, and Myers is right: sell the club.

I'm a huge fan of Armstrong, and Moyes should shut up about his age, he's our best midfielder.

Anthony Dove
184 Posted 29/08/2026 at 18:19:40

The only possible benefit of selling Armstrong would be the resignation of Moyes in protest. However, if -- and surely it's a monster if -- Harrison is sold, Moyes will have been fully in favour.

I wouldn't object to a big price for Garner though.

Peter Hopkins
185 Posted 29/08/2026 at 18:31:31

Fulham after a right back from Spain, could we go back in for Tete?

David West
186 Posted 29/08/2026 at 18:32:16

Christy..
Agree he's been our best MF player, I see him as future captain material.

It's a test for the owners.
Think most fans would except Ndiaye wanting a move and being sold for a huge fee to reinvest.

How shortsighted would it be to cash in now on this player, when the sky's the limit for him, by the end of the season he could be £100m, if he's not, he's still worth the £40m they are offering.

I might just give up on Everton if they sell this young Evertoinian at the start of his PL career, to fucking forrest !!!
The lads not had his head turned by forrest, come on, yeah if it was arsenal or city, this is a club bussiness decision, but it's more when we fans have a home grown scouser in the team playing as good as anyone.

They don't get it if they sell him, and will show who they are !!

Paul Washington
187 Posted 29/08/2026 at 18:33:36

I thought Moyes has the last word on transfers?

Chris James
188 Posted 29/08/2026 at 18:34:00

Martin Farrington, I don't know you, but I am going to hazard a guess which side of the 'Moyes out' argument you fall on...

To say that Moyes doesn't play or develop youth talent is just lazy and inaccurate reporting. Unless you work inside the club, or have some other 'in' to talent, I suspect you can't really speak for how any players genuinely feel, but let's at least operate on the premise of some basic facts.

Whilst our academy could always be improved, and we certainly don't bring through as many youth players under ANY Everton manager as some of our competitors may, I don't really believe Moyes is any different to any other manager. Unless you want to point out the amazing youth records of Ancelotti, Lampard, Koeman, Smith or any of the 15 managers we've had in the last 34 odd seasons of the PL era.

During his first stint at Everton Moyes fast tracked debuts and game time to the likes of Rooney [16], Rodwell [16], Anichebe [17], Vaughan [16] and Barkley [17], and also signed both Coleman and Fellaini at 20.

At West Ham he brought in Bowen [23], Johnson [21] and made these and Declan Rice, then in his low 20s, central to the team.

In the last year or two, back at the blues, he gave time to Tim Iroegbunam [then 22], Alcaraz [23], and also signed George, Dibling and Aznou [all 20]. Now he's started 19 year old Armstrong in the first two PL matches, made Barry [23] first choice striker, and seems to be bringing down the age of the team by apparently sanctioning the release of players like Keane and Beto to go with Gueye and Coleman.

Obviously that doesn't mean he's playing all the youth available, Patterson notably hasn't been given that many opportunities, [but lets face it Moyes isn't alone in that], and he's yet to give Graham a proper run out.

Does he value and trust experienced players? 100%.
Could he have brought through more players from the U21s/U18s? No doubt. But how many actual diamonds can you identify that Moyes has missed out on who have then gone on to flourish elsewhere? I honestly can't think of many under Moyes regime. Maybe Eric Dier, although he was only on loan with the U21s from Sporting.

I think it's totally fine to criticise managers, records, playing styles etc, but there has to be some objective truth behind it not the same old tedious assumptions and stereotypes that have filled too much of these pages for decades.

The inconvenient facts for the Moyes haters, is that he has overseen almost all of our best years in the Premier League era, and built the core of the team that continued on for Martinez and Koeman, when he left for United. Most, if not all of this was done with virtually zero budget.

Obviously, none of us wants to settle for celebrating the top 6/7, and we understand that target is way short of our golden years in the 80s under Kendall, or other points in the storied history we celebrate. But we have to be realistic. It's literally 40 years since Everton's last league title, 30 since a trophy, and whilst I was fortunate enough to witness both, I also understand that times, competitiveness, and economics, have changed unrecognisably in the interim. Right now, thanks to PL's PSR, you can't even buy success if you're outside the CL elite, so we need to build a solid infrastructure and find a way to compete regularly in the top 7 slots.

Part of that could be signing or developing more youthful talent, and part could be shopping for bargains in the market and not getting caught in the same mad spending on average playes that saw us smashed with points deductions last time. From where I'm sitting we seem to be doing exactly this.

IF we do let Armstrong go, then we can obviously come back to debate again. But if someone being interested in a player = a signing, then we'd probably have around 30 right backs in the squad right now, as opposed to just the one.

Sorry, that one got a bit longer than expected!

Dean Williams
189 Posted 29/08/2026 at 18:44:20

Can Armstrong refuse a move?

Ajay Gopal
190 Posted 29/08/2026 at 18:48:54

I saw Moyes's post-match interview and the audio wasn't great -- especially couldn't hear the interviewers' questions at all, but picked up on the final question which I think was:

“What do you think about the fans' reaction to the reported Armstrong sale?” And he answered along the lines of “Fans are not always wrong” (WTF?) and “sometimes clubs need to make tough decisions -- like managers need to make tough decisions on player selection.”

Reading between the lines, I think Moyes knows that Armstrong is off to Forest. If so, this would be one of the worst days in my life as an Everton fan. Total disconnect between the owners and fans. Disgraceful.

Brian Williams
191 Posted 29/08/2026 at 19:01:37

So much for the naive posters who believed Moyes when he said last season he gets the last word on transfers. Because he was certainly distancing himself from that statement today.

Or was he fibbing today and being honest last season? 🤣

Iain Johnston
192 Posted 29/08/2026 at 19:04:19

Chris, it doesn't matter how long your post is if it reads well.

Personally, I'd be happy for Moyes to be replaced if it means an improvement but I'm under the assumption that most fans of every club would say the same?

I'd argue that, if Armstrong is sold and sold on the cheap, which current spending on midfielders would seem to suggest, his position would become untenable.

Am I disappointed with our player recruitment this summer? You're damn right I am -- as essentially we've bought two players -- Hackney and Norgaard -- swapped almost like for like with Johnson, and simply spent the best part of £40M on two players who we had on loan getting limited competitive minutes.

Moyes can and should do better. On paper, our transfer budget is larger than last summer and as match-going paying fans, we should be demanding more. A Top 10 finish would be nice for a start -- at least this would send out a signal that we're moving in the right direction.

Currently we have one less squad player than last season, fans aren't seeing us pushing on or even unsuccessful bids for players in the positions we all know need strengthening. This is what, for me, is the root cause of the mounting frustration.

Again, Moyes voicing his opinion publically isn't the platform -- it simply adds fuel to fire. He knows better.

This is my first criticism of him. My second is making Tarkowski Captain. His attitude historically has shown he's not the right man for the job. I still remember his tackle on Richarlison which was basically an assault which put our marquee player on the injured list for weeks.

Tarkowski now being closer to 35 than 30 again sends out the wrong signal. He should be winding down along with Keane, we don't want another Radcliffe who stayed too long, almost wrecking what was a fine legacy. For me it should have been Pickford.

I see Munoz is signing for Forest for £22M... another full-back we've missed out on.

Raymond Fox
193 Posted 29/08/2026 at 19:06:07

If Armstrong is sold, it will be an owner decision, there is no manager on the planet who wants to lose their best players, you're shooting yourself in the foot.

The only possible reason could be to finance a Grealish deal.

Lewis Barclay
194 Posted 29/08/2026 at 19:06:24

I would be disappointed to see Ndiaye go but it would make sense for £60M+.

Armstrong going would be total lunacy. He has the potential to build the spine of a team around, along with Branthwaite.

Andrew Ellams
195 Posted 29/08/2026 at 19:13:31

Peter @ 183, guess what Fabrizio Romano has just announced

Sean Kearns
196 Posted 29/08/2026 at 19:20:44

If anyone from the club happens to read this, just know that if you sell Harrisson Armstrong then you’ll lose a large section of our fanbase you absolute shameless, cheap, money grubbing CUNTS!!!… get out of our club now and don’t look back you soulless bastards 🖕 The FriedChicken’s can absolutely FUCK OFF!!!… I’d rather sell N’Diaye and replace him with Rohl out wide…. So we might sell Jake and Harrisson, but keep an ageing Keane, Tarky, and sign an older Tete and Richy? What kind of planning for the future is that?.. they are only interested in making money right now? It stinks of a pump and dump!… if you sell Harrisson, I will personally crowd fund for a plane to fly over the Hill Dickinson every other week with a banner that says “The FriedChicken’s out”… why would we sell our best young player and strengthen one of our rivals???

David West
197 Posted 29/08/2026 at 19:24:10

It could be a case of clubs only offering £40M for Ndiaye, now Forest offering £40M for Armstrong, and the club and Moyes saying they would rather lose Armstrong.

I'd rather not sign another player and keep him! He could be that good. That's at right-back too!!!

Mike Doyle
198 Posted 29/08/2026 at 19:28:28

Just read Moyes's comments on Sky.

Sounds like the Armstrong deal is being seriously considered by “the club” -- but Moyes trying to distance himself from the decision.

Martin Berry
199 Posted 29/08/2026 at 19:29:22

This transfer window may end up being good for us but its hardly encouraging so far unless we have some deals are well hidden.
It could also become very toxic if Harrison or Ily were concerned in a sale. The fanbase would have every right to demonstrate and let the club know we are the club and this is not the way forward ! !

Kieran Kinsella
200 Posted 29/08/2026 at 19:34:37

Selling Armstrong for £40M would be the worst decision since King Priam of Troy said “You know what would really liven up this place? A giant wooden horse.”

We couldn't even buy a comparable replacement for that -- much less improve the team!

Peter Hopkins
201 Posted 29/08/2026 at 19:34:54

I think I should do the lotto tonight!

Brian Harrison
202 Posted 29/08/2026 at 19:39:46

Alan Myers, our former Head of Communications, believes the deal to sell Armstrong to Forest is 80/20 complete and, unlike many, Myers is usually very well informed on everything Everton.

The manager has stated he doesn't want his best players sold, in another interview when asked about the Harrison transfer said "I am an Evertonian".

Elton Welsby, who used to host football on ITV, said it was only a few weeks back that Kinnear was saying how fabulous our youth system is and actually highlighted Armstrong because he was homegrown.

So be under no illusion: it's TFG and Kinnear and the recruitment team who are leading on this; where this leaves Moyes if the deals go through, I don't know.

Looks like we have our very own version of Hicks & Gillett, or the other American asset strippers, the Glazers. Where this leaves us, I have no idea.

I did hear that Armstrong might not be totally innocent in all this as, a couple of months ago, he switched to Anthony Gordon's agent, so maybe he is at the heart of it all.

Frank Worrall
203 Posted 29/08/2026 at 19:41:28

I have just turned 90 and on my first visit to Goodison Park saw the Blues play Grimsby Town in a First Division game in 1946 (I was 10 at the time)! I have followed EFC home and away ever since but age and travel problems now prevent such activities. Sadly, football is no longer a working class sport but a haven for corporate investors, foreign mercen-aries with no loyalty to the Clubs which pay their overblown wages and even less thought for the ordinary fans who fork out money each week to watch them, and greedy agents pimping their clients. It therefore comes as no surprise (but never fails to disappoint) when one hears of a Club's intention to acquire yet more cash by selling a promising youngster like Armstrong and a crowd favourite such as Ndiaye! Moyes is not to blame for the current situation, but TFG and the "suits" will have a lot to answer for if these deals go through!

David West
204 Posted 29/08/2026 at 19:42:34

Forest will sell him to Man City in 12 months for £150M.

Just fuck off, Everton !!

Tony Hughes
205 Posted 29/08/2026 at 19:45:00

Selling our best young player to fucking Forest, if this goes through then the Friedkins are done here. No amount of justification about finances and 3-year plans will fucking wash here.

Asset stripping and not giving a fuck. They have no affection for our great club.

David West
206 Posted 29/08/2026 at 19:45:27

Armstrong can refuse to move to Forest.

But as soon as others know he's being pimped round the Premier League for peanuts, others will come in and then you can't blame the lad.

Greg Kelly
207 Posted 29/08/2026 at 19:49:57

DONT DO IT.Cant get over the Armstrong story. It may be the end for me. I nearly gave up when we sold Alan Ball! Would have saved me 50+ years. o/f mostly miserable Saturdays (like this one).this feels worse - selling another of our homegrown talents, following Rooney and Gordon. What is the point,? Appears to be no plan at the top of the club except ‘stay in the premiership and protect the owners investment
PLEASE DON’T DO IT.
Greg Kelly.

John Steadman
208 Posted 29/08/2026 at 20:00:26

If this deal for Armstrong goes through and I seriously hope it doesn't, then we as supporters, have to voice our concerns and start a concentrated effort to get rid of these idiots.
We cannot boycott matches, but we can not give them any money what so ever.
DO NOT BUY ANYTHING IN THE GROUND OR THE CONCOURSE!
DO NOT BUY ANYTHING BEING PROMOTED THROUGH THE CLUB EVEN ONLINE!!!
We the supporters dragged this club over the finishing line over the past few seasons, let our voices be heard again!

John Keating
209 Posted 29/08/2026 at 20:10:19

NO
Simple as that.

Billy Shears
210 Posted 29/08/2026 at 20:14:53

No to selling Armstrong to Forest... best young player in the Premier League.

The fanbase will never forgive our owners if this happens!!!

Criminal Madness.

David Hallwood
211 Posted 29/08/2026 at 20:25:24

Let's keep our powder dry till Tuesday. But I'm old enough to remember the sale of Alan Ball to Arsenal, Kendal to Birmingham and of course Rooney to Man U, but this is worse. Not only the sale or possible sale of Armstrong but the whole window.

So we're told, move grounds, increase the capacity, jack the prices up is necessary if we're going to compete, and then comes the window and we might end up with no right back no back up left back, no forward and with Armstrong and probably ndiaye sold.

This is a fire sale by a club who's skint, and if it's coming from TFG, both Angus Kinnear & Moyes must walk.

Jimmy Carr
212 Posted 29/08/2026 at 20:27:55

From the post-match interview it's obvious that this isn't Moyes's idea. Personally I don't think Armstrong will go as Moyes will be raising merry hell behind the scenes.

I'm not Moyes's greatest fan but those posters who've somehow found a way to lay the blame for this at his door need to give their heads a serious wobble and then some.

When he says 'club decision', he means the owners and the management team. He couldn't have been clearer about who is responsible.

John Collins
213 Posted 29/08/2026 at 20:31:20

We have to take him at his word Jimmy.
He should stand up to the owners though.

Tony Hughes
214 Posted 29/08/2026 at 20:31:30

Not so much as a fire sale, more asset stripping.
They've spent no fucking money, the only money spent has been from the Sky/BT income.
Nothing has come from thier pockets.

Tony Hughes
215 Posted 29/08/2026 at 20:34:51

Jimmy, I don't think they give a fuck what Moyes thinks, he's just a puppet to keep us in the Premier League for stability to cream off the TV money

Jon Atkinson
216 Posted 29/08/2026 at 20:46:26

just watched his post match, he’s put royal blue water between himself and “ the club “ over a Harrison sale, whilst also saying difficult decisions have to be made. So is the club still in shit street financially?

Dave Whitwell
217 Posted 29/08/2026 at 21:03:06

David Hallwood 207

I couldn’t agree more with your post, it’s the promises of the new ground and all that, the financial issues were supposed to be behind us, even in Jan we were told we won’t spend as we want to go big in the summer, this is definitely not big.

I don’t expect anyone to tell us what’s going on before the deadline closes, but when this is all over someone in the ownership has to explain this to the fans. If we’re still in trouble then level with us but don’t treat us like mugs with something we all live so much.

Frank Fearns
218 Posted 29/08/2026 at 21:07:55

Frank 199 - I'm 10 years behind you and at 10 saw my first match in 1956 but can't remember who we played. Wholly agree with you in what you say. Sadly it's not about supporters anymore but about billionaires screwing money from vast sums handed over from broadcasting rights.

I've become very disillusioned in recent times over what has happened to football and to Everton in particular. Then recent rumours about cashing in on two prize assets. Hopefully it is just stupid rumours and we can watch them grace the new ground. Like many on the TW site it will be a sad day if they are sold.. I know we have done this many times before with selling some class players but now it seems we are turning a corner after being in the doldrums for years.

We should be building a team not taking it apart.

Oliver Molloy
219 Posted 29/08/2026 at 21:19:38

If Moyes really wants Harrison to stay at the club, he should 100% say so - no grey areas - he should be saying loudly " I don't want the club to sell him ", but he hasn't.

Moyes wants more signings - right ? ( and we need a right back and a striker at least ! ) TFG could have / probably told him the only way the club can do this is to sell a homegrown player to raise the money.
These owners are not interested in Evertonains or the history of the club - to me that is plain obvious, so the quicker we get rid of them the fucking better in my opinion.
The thing now is Harrison knows he will most likely triple his wages if he agrees to any move.

Harrison is only 19 years of age and looks like he could be the real deal given the right management and guidance, comparisons to Jack Rodwell all over again.
We must keep future hero's.

Ian Bennett
220 Posted 29/08/2026 at 21:23:41

Oliver, surely each of the current players were discussed in the close season.

Ones they wanted, the ones they didnt, and the non negotiable.

Armstrong is a non negotiable, as is Branthwaite.

If there was a player to go, it was Ndiaye. But I struggle to see why anyone is going when we are rummaging in the bin for Tete etc.

Mike Hayes
221 Posted 29/08/2026 at 21:33:27

It’s on X the deal is still ongoing 😡

Oliver Molloy
222 Posted 29/08/2026 at 21:44:22

Agreed Ian,
You would think that would be the case, but just look at our search for a right back, Kinnear said recently he is still available and is / was the number one target agreed by all involved - whoever that may be !

Unfortunately, I disagree that we have players that are as you put it "non negotiable" - not with these current owners, they are all about the money and it is also obvious to see they prefer Rome to Liverpool !

Ian Horan
223 Posted 29/08/2026 at 21:45:39

i often live in a dream world so I am told, what a dream would it be if Armstrong said No to the transfer. if he has ambition and belief in his abilities a big club will come calling 🤞

Ted Donnelly
224 Posted 29/08/2026 at 21:46:02

I honestly think by the look on moyse kipper..that if Harrison is sold then he will walk..l would..UTFT

Tony Hughes
225 Posted 29/08/2026 at 21:49:28

I think what we can all agree on is what a poorly managed, shitshow of a transfer window this has been

Mick O\\\'Malley
226 Posted 29/08/2026 at 21:51:40

If Armstrong doesn't want the move all he has to say is no I'm staying, so either he doesnt think he'll be a first team regular and is happy to talk to Forest and pick up a better wage or if he wants to stay all he has to say is no, Everton can't make him move, if he does go its cos he's happy with the move and terms Forest are offering

Christy Ring
227 Posted 29/08/2026 at 21:53:22

Raymond#193 How the f..k would that be a reason to sell Armstrong, utter nonsense

Peter Hopkins
228 Posted 29/08/2026 at 22:00:49

City going for Gapko, does this mean they don’t want N’Diaye??

Nick Page
229 Posted 29/08/2026 at 22:14:36

Just heard this. If there is any thruth here, this fucking football club is finished.

Jeff Armstrong
230 Posted 29/08/2026 at 22:15:38

228, No

Christy Ring
231 Posted 29/08/2026 at 22:17:41

Richarlison wants out at Spurs, so TFG show your ambition, sign Richi and forget about the ridiculous decision to sell Harrison, put the club first

Nick Page
232 Posted 29/08/2026 at 22:26:03

Everton Football Club are selling their best young player to Nottingham fucking fat Greek bastard Forest??? OMG what has happened here? This can’t be real.

Moyes should resign.

Tony Abrahams
233 Posted 29/08/2026 at 22:32:11

I just hope it doesn’t mean that they will leave N’Diaye, to Liverpool, if they are prepared to sell them Gakpo, Peter? That’s if we are talking about the same player, who I personally don’t believe he his in the same league as Iliman.

Christy Ring
234 Posted 29/08/2026 at 22:33:32

Looking at Moyes interview, why did he make excuses for the owners, and just say it would be a disaster if we sold Armstrong, his contract is up in the summer anyway, if he's an evertonian, just grow a pair.

Nick Page
235 Posted 29/08/2026 at 22:37:52

This can’t be real

John Collins
236 Posted 29/08/2026 at 22:38:05

This club is officially finished in any connection to being called a 'big club"if we sell Armstrong.
Weve got owners who won't spend the full amount permissible under the rules.
Will they pay the surplus to themselves as dividends, similar to what they did with the money for Goodison?

Mark Rankin
237 Posted 29/08/2026 at 22:39:23

What a weird world we now live in, Villa seemingly flying high then selling off half a team, Newcastle backed by an oil state doing the same and spurs spanking millions. If HH goes, I would feel pretty done with it all and go back to watching some grass roots football.

Brendan McLaughlin
238 Posted 29/08/2026 at 22:43:20

Mark #237

HH ?

John Collins
239 Posted 29/08/2026 at 22:44:17

Knew you were a Reform chap Brendan 😉

Jeff Armstrong
240 Posted 29/08/2026 at 22:44:41

HA obviously
Pedantic, moi? never.

Nick Page
241 Posted 29/08/2026 at 22:44:50

If Everton Football Club (unbelievably) sell Harrison Armstrong to Nottingham Forest this entire football club goes on strike

Brendan McLaughlin
242 Posted 29/08/2026 at 22:49:59

Phew Jeff #240

I was worried

John Collins
243 Posted 29/08/2026 at 22:50:16

Good memory 😁

Nick Page
244 Posted 29/08/2026 at 22:51:00

This can’t be real. Please tell me this isn’t real

Jeff Armstrong
245 Posted 29/08/2026 at 22:53:04

Mind you, with this shower, maybe HH is for sale, if it means a couple of quid profit.

Sean Kearns
246 Posted 29/08/2026 at 22:53:25

Is Harrisson leaves, we riot!… Signing other teams ageing cast offs, and selling our bright young stars… don’t forget though, this money was promised to them 3,000 years ago! So they absolutely will do it… The Sunday Man Utd game next week is on the world feed and will be watched by all 4 corners of the planet, we need to absolutely make a stand and put these wankers to shame!.. Come on lads, get the banners out! Let have a banner plane fly over for our Harrisson… I’ll donate. It’s not just for us, it’s for football!

Joe McMahon
247 Posted 29/08/2026 at 22:53:44

Chrsty, possibly may have something to do with 5 million a year?

Tony Abrahams
248 Posted 29/08/2026 at 22:54:28

When my son phoned me with this news today, I had a couple of different conversations with him. He was fuming, and said, “if this is true I’ve had enough because I can’t see myself ever watching Everton win a cup”. (He’s 30 years of age and has stood the test of time for nearly 26 years, going wherever Everton play for around twenty years. He’s not alone, there’s hundreds in the same boat)

Like Brian H, I compared them to Hicks & Gillette, and then asked the question, have us Evertonians, got enough belief, outrage and power, to force these silent friedkin’s, out of our club.

If we give up the club dies, but if we really care about our club then it’s time to “start really uniting for once, over a common cause” and get these portfolio filling Americans out of our club.

John Collins
249 Posted 29/08/2026 at 23:01:09

Them from over the park got theirs out Tony.
I think a lot of Evertonians are passive when it comes to protest though.
The Keioc boys and girls need to make a comeback

Jeff Armstrong
250 Posted 29/08/2026 at 23:01:14

So, we start by not buying anything the club offers, beer, programs, food, official merchandise, BMD events, just turn your back on anything profitable for these charlatans, people will still go the game regardless, but don’t spend a penny more than the ticket price

Paul Hewitt
251 Posted 29/08/2026 at 23:02:18

Tony. I doubt anyone would be interested in buying us at the moment.

Nick Page
252 Posted 29/08/2026 at 23:02:55

We have the smallest squad in the league.
Moyes wants players.
Still can’t even find a right back.
Bend over to the PL because Burnley cry arsed about getting relegated. Tell them to fuck right off

Transfer budget limited.

Then - sell your best young player to an absolute no mark of a football club.

Who the fuck is running this shit show???

Jeff Armstrong
253 Posted 29/08/2026 at 23:04:23

If TFG are not making profit, they will do their damdest to find a buyer.

Jimmy Carr
254 Posted 29/08/2026 at 23:06:49

Mike Gaynes has gone into hiding :)

Nick Page
255 Posted 29/08/2026 at 23:07:49

Tony, if we sell Armstrong TO FOREST we’re absolutely done. I can’t - and no one else should - take this football club seriously anymore. Kenwright did me over the greedy bastard, but this surpasses even that.

Jeff Armstrong
256 Posted 29/08/2026 at 23:08:18

Buy your refreshments outside the ground, support local businesses who have invested in the area, buy a scarf off the stall outside the ground, don’t bother with the restaurants or function suites, go the game but give these fuckers no more than the entrance fee

James Fletcher
257 Posted 29/08/2026 at 23:08:25

The BBC can't even get Harrison's name right on MOTD

Sean Kelly
258 Posted 29/08/2026 at 23:15:44

If Harrison is sold it proves the owners have no ambition. Hes a gem in the making and with Branthwaite he would turn out to be a leading player for us. If TFG sell him I'm off as I couldn’t support this club any more. In the short time I’ve left on this planet I’ve no intention of getting depressed every weekend of every season with no chance of success. It’s bad enough with the prick Moyes there but with owners asset stripping that will see us eventually see us in the championship. I’d probably take state sponsored murders as our owner instead.
Time to watch my grandkids playing grassroots football. That’s where the honesty is.

Jimmy Carr
259 Posted 29/08/2026 at 23:17:31

Burnham needs to step in.

Nick Page
260 Posted 29/08/2026 at 23:24:41

I was gutted when we sold Linekar to Barcelona. Massive mistake. Even worse was when we sold the great Alan Ball to Arsenal. Everyone was gutted. I’ve been there with Rooney. Seen the Jeffers one. Seen the Big Dunc one. Arteta to Arsenal. All of the sales to “save the club”. But this is different. We are NOT in that position. If Ndiaye wants to go to City, fine but this is different. Not selling to Forest. Where is the money? Tell the premier league to fuck off right now.

Andrew Ellams
261 Posted 29/08/2026 at 23:25:40

Jimmy @ 254. He's very quiet for a match day.

Jeff Armstrong
262 Posted 29/08/2026 at 23:39:31

Beardsley to Newcastle gutted me tbh
I think I was struggling to pay for tickets with a young family at the time, but him going back to Newcastle gave me a reason to fuck Everton off for a couple of seasons.

Chris James
263 Posted 29/08/2026 at 23:41:52

I've been reading a lot of posts, watching many videos and thinking about this now for the last 6/7 hours. And, whilst I am genuinely gutted at the prospect of losing a great prospect, I have not [yet] succumbed to the raw fury I'm seeing elsewhere. As such I do have two honest, if slightly incendiary, questions...

1. How much WOULD be a good/fair price for Armstrong?
2. Considering all the transfer carnage over the years, why are we SO angry about this one player?

These days there are very few 'one club' men. Almost every player at every football club ultimately has a price, so is there a price that we as fans would countenance Armstrong being sold on?
Or is this above finances and more about timing, principle and heritage?

I know Harrison looks exciting so far, and I love his attitude and the way we're playing with him, but as we've seen MANY times before, potential doesn't always turn into sustained footballing greatness.

Obviously Rooney went on to become a legend elsewhere, Gordon is going the same sort of way, and Stones, who wasn't 'home grown', but we had from 18 flourished on the biggest stages. But then again the likes of Jeffers, Rodwell, Anichebe, Vaughan and even Barkley shone brightly but were ultimately less impactful.

And they are just the tip of the iceberg, the sad reality is most players don't become legends, they make a decent living, serve several clubs to their best ability, have a few genuinely brilliant moments, and maybe win the odd trophy, but are otherwise just a part of the squad.

Rooney went for £30M back in 2004, when he was just 18 and we desperately needed the cash, so maybe he saved the club. Obviously he absolutely smashed it afterwards.
Rodwell was 21 I think, and been a part of the squad for a couple of seasons when he went for £15M in 2012, he lost his way at City, then recovered a little at Sunderland before dropping down the divisions. Gordon was also 21 and had a few decent seasons when he secured £40M+ add ons in Jan 2023. And Stones was 22 and a starting star when he went to City for £45m, earning us over £40M profit [an eerily familiar number!]

Against that backdrop, £40M for potential doesn't feel a terrible deal, even at the current inflated rates, but I wonder if we'd feel any different if it was £50 or 60m?
What about if it was a choice of having to sell the potential of Armstrong vs the more proven NDiaye in order to bring in a new right back and forward? Not that we should be in that position.

Or ultimately is the anger really nothing at all to do with market values, or squad needs, or even losing a possible local hero, but everything to do with the feeling of Everton having not actually progressed and remaining stuck in the same 'selling club' pattern of the last 20/30 years?

Jeff Armstrong
264 Posted 29/08/2026 at 23:46:48

Chris you just don’t get it, do you?
It doesn’t matter if it’s 40, 60 80 million, it’s a surrender to trying to build a decent team, same with Illy, we should be building, not dismantling,
Jarrad on Tuesday ??

Kevin Molloy
265 Posted 29/08/2026 at 23:46:49

Curtis Jones is going for £35m Chris. Harrison is five times the player, and years younger.
If we were on the edge of. a cliff, you'd sell him for more than Ndiaye. We'd be selling him for half price.

Keith Harrison
266 Posted 29/08/2026 at 00:02:31

Harrison Armstrong will be twice the player Elliot Anderson is within the next 2 years.
To think Forest will more than compensate for Anderson with a net gain of some £75+ millions is crazy - and would represent extremely good business on their side.

Tell them to F right off now.

Nick Page
267 Posted 29/08/2026 at 00:05:42

“Against that backdrop, £40M for potential doesn't feel a terrible deal, even at the current inflated rates, but I wonder if we'd feel any different if it was £50 or 60m”

The problem is, Chris everyone can see a deal but if/when you’re a selling club - apparently - you don’t sell you’re BEST YOUNG players to fucking second division clubs like Nottingham Forest.

Chris James
268 Posted 29/08/2026 at 00:15:09

Well I obviously don't know what's going on with you Jeff, but think I do 'get it' more broadly. I'm just trying to look at the case from a logical perspective and try to understand why this one case is so incendiary.

I think it's extremely unlikely we sell both Armstrong and NDiaye, it's very possible we don't sell either, but it is LIKELY that with PL's cash constraints, our lower than hoped finish, and the Burnley debacle, we need to recoup some cash in to fund further acquisitions.

Harrison Armstrong is undeniably a great potential talent, and I dearly hope for him that he fulfils every ounce of it [and ideally with us]. However, he hasn't YET really achieved anything at the top level, he's had 15 games at Derby on loan in EFL, a handful of cameos last year and 2 full games in the PL this season.
That's not his fault and it doesn't make him NOT valuable, but it's hardly the same case as Gordon, Stones, Rooney or even Rodwell when they were sold.

I 100% DON'T want us to sell him, I have made it clear I'm not happy, and I have no issue with channeling anger against the owners, but I am challenging the argument that this one player [or indeed any 1 player] should be viewed as the lynchpin of the team and will destroy us if we sell him.

EVERY club in the PL trades players every season in an attempt to improve, largely older players, but often younger stars, e.g. City sold Palmer at 21, United sold Elanga and a certain James Garner at 21, Arsenal sold Willock, Balogun and Gnaby at 21/22, Chelsea sold De Bruyne at 22 and Salah at 23, Brighton sold Caicedo, Cucurella, MacAllister, White, Gyokeres and more all in their early 20s.

None of this means that selling Armstrong is a great idea, I'm just trying to get to the bottom of why this particular sale is so incendiary.

Stu Gre
269 Posted 29/08/2026 at 00:18:36

Christy 234 - Moyes is doing what Moyes does. Look into my eyes, not around the eyes.

Mr I am in charge of all transfers, but not this one if it makes the fans angry.

Play all sides, I'm not the bad guy. I've got fck all to lose I'm retiring soon. Blah blah blah. He's a self serving arsehole who will do whatever it takes to get his next/final payday.

No way, if this happens, he hasn't sanctioned it but will put just enough disappointment in his tone to all people that it doesn't look like he'd rather have a 30 year old average RB than a home grown genuine young talent.

Absolute c.

Stu Gre
270 Posted 29/08/2026 at 00:18:46

Christy 234 - Moyes is doing what Moyes does. Look into my eyes, not around the eyes.

Mr I am in charge of all transfers, but not this one if it makes the fans angry.

Play all sides, I'm not the bad guy. I've got fck all to lose I'm retiring soon. Blah blah blah. He's a self serving arsehole who will do whatever it takes to get his next/final payday.

No way, if this happens, he hasn't sanctioned it but will put just enough disappointment in his tone to all people that it doesn't look like he'd rather have a 30 year old average RB than a home grown genuine young talent.

Absolute c.

James Marshall
271 Posted 29/08/2026 at 00:19:51

Forest have also agreed a deal for Munoz £22m.

Surely we won't sell Armstrong.

Moyes has now openly agreed with supporters that we're "not always wrong".

Kenny Tete. Christ.

Christy Ring
272 Posted 29/08/2026 at 00:22:20

Chris "new on here, and your post, utter crap, definitely not a fan?

Gavin Johnson
273 Posted 29/08/2026 at 00:22:45

Going off today's crazy transfers and what top tier English midfielders are going for, I think a £40m fee could potentially be doubled if we just hung onto Armstrong until next summer, if he nails down a regular place with us which is quite likely if he stays.

Chris James
274 Posted 29/08/2026 at 00:28:36

@Kevin, the RS example is totally fair point and it remains insane that they seem able to repeatedly recoup big fees for what I consider bang average players. This is nothing new.

That said Jones does have 153 games,11 goals and a collection of medals for 'them' plus 6 England caps. Does that make him worth £35M? Probably not for me, but I'm not Inter.

Same thing goes for comparisons elsewhere with Anderson, who went to City for crazy record money this summer at £116m, just 2 odd years AFTER being sold from his boyhood club Newcastle for £15M. It's entirely possible that Harrison could deliver the same, or bigger returns, and go for an even larger sum, but, unlike Anderson, he hasn't yet played 44 times for Newcastle, 75 times for Forest, leading the league for duels won and touches, or had 17 full caps for England en route to a 3rd place World Cup finish.

I guess the issue there, and maybe that's what's really happening here, is that value of anything lies in the eyes of the beholder and the 'holder'.
My initial post was trying to work out if there was a value that we, as fans, would be more comfortable with. It seems largely not.

I know I'm onto a loser here, it's Saturday night and spirits are high [or have been consumed]. To confirm again before the pitchforks and torches come round, "I am NOT in favour of this move, and I'm not saying we should accept the situation without complaint, or even that people should calm down, I'm just trying to sketch some context as to why this may be happening and the broader network of valuations."

I'll stop now and go back to trying to sort my son's U16 fixtures.

Christy Ring
275 Posted 29/08/2026 at 00:33:03

TFG show you're worth, give Harrison a new contract, and show your ambition for this club

Mark Taylor
276 Posted 29/08/2026 at 00:34:24

Chris,

With all due respect, I think you are really missing the entire point here. You mention Arsenal, City, Chelsea, United etc selling players, but they then go on to buy £60-100m players. If you think we'll do that, I have a bridge to sell you.

The idea was that TFG made us into a club that wanted to win and thus kept its best and most promising players, albeit maybe not signing £60-100m players. What we're heading for here is swapping Ndiaye for Grealish, HA for a middling right back, and a pile of dividends to the US.

If you think that's smart, you're not an Evertonian.

Nick Page
277 Posted 29/08/2026 at 00:35:48

If Everton Football Club sell Armstrong to Nottingham Forest, this club is done. It’s a farce. You should all vote with your feet and cash your ST’s in. This is not right.

Chris James
278 Posted 29/08/2026 at 00:37:19

Hi Christy, thanks for the take, everyone's entitled to their opinion.

Sadly for most concerned I'm not faintly new to these parts, I've been watching and posting for the best part of 20 years I think, certainly since the first Moyes regime. And I have been a fan for even longer, something I can track back to the age of 10, some 42 years ago.

Jack Convery
279 Posted 29/08/2026 at 00:41:36

If he goes support the team and avoid the bars and food franchises. Take a sarny and a bottle of pop instead. Starve them of their profits. We have the Power so let's use it.

Nicolas Piñon
280 Posted 29/08/2026 at 00:44:35

I think Armstrong is an inteligent young man and an evertonian and at this moment on his career hell stay happily at the club.
Get a fucking striker and a RIGHT BACK you Pathetic fools

Nick Page
281 Posted 29/08/2026 at 00:44:56

Per Gemini…..

Everton recorded a net transfer profit of approximately £80.68 million (€47.75 million) over the five-year period leading into the 2026/27 season.Due to strict Profit and Sustainability Regulations (PSR) and the financial demands of building their new stadium, Everton have been forced to heavily restrict their outgoings and operate with a positive trading balance, making them one of the few Premier League clubs to record a net profit on transfers over this timeframe.Five-Year Net Spend BreakdownAccording to data compiled from Football365 and Transfermarkt, the season-by-season net spend is broken down below (Note: Negative figures denote a net profit from player sales):2026/27: £-62.88m (Profit)2025/26: £-101.87m (Profit)2024/25: +£28.17m (Spend)2023/24: +£36.23m (Spend)2022/23: +£21.70m (Spend)Total 5-Year Net Spend: £-80.68m (Overall Profit)

Chris James
282 Posted 29/08/2026 at 00:46:03

Just when I thought I got out, you pulled me back in... ;)

Gavin
You are absolutely right, and this might actually be THE best argument to make to the money men, [and I think we always have to understand the people running the club, running most clubs, are money men NOT fans], i.e. that playing Armstrong for a year or 2 could generate a £100M+ 'asset'.

Mark Taylor
"With all due respect, I think you are really missing the entire point here. You mention Arsenal, City, Chelsea, United etc selling players, but they then go on to buy £60-100m players. If you think we'll do that, I have a bridge to sell you."

That is a totally viable point, but it's not the argument I was making.
Yes these clubs, with the exception of Brighton that seems like a more viable model for most outside the CL spots, have FAR more ready money than us. Despite this, they STILL sell talented youngsters, even Chelsea with their squad of 600! The point of these examples was that EVERY club sells players, sometimes highly talented ones.

I do 100% agree that selling either NDiaye and Armstrong is unwise, and selling both is insanity, but I think it's highly unlikely the latter will happen.

I also didn't say any of it was 'smart', I'm just trying to reason out why it could happen, what it really means, and why this one player has become such a line in the sand.

Nick Page
283 Posted 29/08/2026 at 00:46:16

Someone’s lying

Don Alexander
284 Posted 29/08/2026 at 00:50:42

Some above my post talk of hiring a 'plane with a banner to try to register protest against our newest dreadful owner should the youngster leave us.

If they allow him to go the ONLY thing that'll register is non-attendance at a game at what he considers to be his own Bring More Dosh stadium.

Moyes will look after himself, as ever, contrary to what a true Evertonian would do for his/her/our club in aiming for immediate success.

Mark Taylor
285 Posted 29/08/2026 at 00:51:30

Nick that is all very true although the stadium funding was (mostly) outside PSR rules, albeit we even waged to screw up the allowances on that hence the points deduction.

But we're supposed to be past that now. Moshiri rightly took a massive financial hit on selling- effectively he personally paid for a sizeable % of the stadium. Now we're on SCR and with a much higher revenue base (mainly drive by the new stadium).

We're past that now, or supposed to be. The whole point of TFG was to stabilise is so we didn't have to see our best and most promising young players and maybe pick up a couple of judicious £15-25m buys to augment. It seems that is not how the owners see it. They want to flog the crown jewels.

Mark Taylor
286 Posted 29/08/2026 at 00:53:43

Then Chris, read my middle paragraph.

That's why.

Mike Allison
287 Posted 29/08/2026 at 01:03:16

Chris James, I don’t know what you were trying to achieve with your posts but I’ve got to agree that you just don’t get it.

There is no ‘fair price’ for Armstrong. Attempting to compare him to Curtis Jones is completely missing the point.

If we sell our best young player to a lesser club for a pathetic amount of money in the current market then we have destroyed our own soul. This is an emotional argument, because if that’s who we are as a club, then what is the point of the whole thing?

That the story has even been allowed to develop without a complete shut down from the owners of the club is an appalling piece of ‘management’ that has essentially turned the fan base against them. To sell him would be literally the worst piece of ‘club running’ in the history of football. Even if we don’t now sell him, the owners have massively damaged their reputation and relationship with the fans.

I now want them gone when I generally supported them before.

Even trying to apply logic, selling an asset that will only increase in value for a low price, at the cost of alienating the entire fan base surely can’t make sense on any level.

Chris James
288 Posted 29/08/2026 at 01:09:16

Not that AI is ever wrong Nick, but those transfer numbers don't quite stack up, maybe it's just the way you [or I] am reading them.
My idiots version using Transfermarkt's estimates is below:

> In 26/27 thus far we've spent almost €100M on fees for George, Rohl, Hackney, Norgaard and Johnson, recouping just €26M equivalent for McNeill.
Total loss as it stands of c. €74M

> In 25/26 we brought in Dibling, Barry, KDH, Alcaraz, Aznou and Travers for an estimated €130M, bringing in just €12.6M via Maupay and Chermiti sales
Thus a loss of €117m

> In 24/25 we sold Onana, Dobbin and Godfrey for €84M and spent just €50M on O'brien, NDiaye, Iroegbunam and Lindstrom
So a €33M surplus

> In 23/24 we brought in Beto, Chermiti and Danjuma for €40M, but sold Moise Kean, Iwobi, Gray, Canon, Simms and Nkounkou for €83M
So a €42M surplus

> In 22/23 we got Onana, McNeill, Maupay, Garner and Gueye for around €83M, but sold off Richarlison and Gordon for €103M
A surplus of €20M

> In 21/22 we bought Mykolenko, Patterson and Demarai Gray for almost €40m, sold Digne, Rodriguez, Kean + Bernard [both on loan] for €46M
A surplus of €6.5m

Thus, it depends where you do your sums:
For 5 years from 21/22 to 25/26, our overall transfer loss is a modest €14M
If you go from 22/23 to 26/27, assuming no further moves, we're on a loss of €96m

But then again these numbers aren't actually how PL clubs accounts are done, there are tons of extra fees in player sales [agents for instance], player transfers are amortised over time, and the PL rules tie in all other incomes/outgoings as well to these overall limits, so player wages, gates and sponsorships are arguably as if not more important than transfers, as are things like the Burnley case [which is utterly bullshit and scandalous, but that's another post].

Generally I think we have had quite sizeable net spends in the last 2 years vs frugal windows below, so I would expect we do have to sell to either buy more players or just balance the books.

Tony Hughes
289 Posted 30/08/2026 at 01:25:30

Fuck me,some long winded statto bullshit pathetic posts tonight.
Utter fucking shite transfer window, and fuck off with the excuses.
Where's the new players????????

Sean Kearns
290 Posted 30/08/2026 at 01:33:03

Maybe a club mole in here to quell the unrest 🧐

Lewis Barclay
291 Posted 30/08/2026 at 02:15:46

For all the stick Moyes gets on here - some deserved, not the majority - he is being as vocal as he’s probably allowed about the disappointment of lack of incoming transfers and potential outgoings.

If Armstrong goes, surely Moyes, with what he has said, is going to find it hard to continue, certainly past his current contract?

For all the people calling him out, be careful what you wish for, as I doubt he has much time left given his demeanour today. The owners will be showing their true colours by selling Armstrong (or O’Brien in my opinion).

Ndyiae is a sale the club could make and do well from. It’s clear no one is going to pay the amount the club wants for him.

The £35m paid to Burnley needs recouping, Armstrong is not the answer.

Eric Myles
292 Posted 30/08/2026 at 02:33:46

Dominic King's take on it.

Warning: he praises Moyes in this piece so it may not go down to well with some.

An act of vandalism

Mike Gaynes
293 Posted 30/08/2026 at 02:50:36

Christy and Mark, bit out of line accusing Chris of not being a fan or an Evertonian.

And he is by no means "new" on TW -- on the contrary he was a regular poster for many years, going back almost as far as I do. Rare appearances in more recent years, but a dyed-in-the-wool Blue and worthy of a bit more respect, agree with his views or not -- police officer I believe, correct, Chris?

Anyway, Chris, I think the reason the possible sale of Armstrong has ignited such visceral fury is that he's literally a child of the club, an Academy tot at five who rose through the youth ranks -- an extreme rarity at Everton in this era, almost a unicorn. Thus the deep emotional investment in his success HERE. And thus the "line in the sand" for TFG, a new owner viewed as unaware of how Evertonians feel about their own bairns.

Steve Brown
294 Posted 30/08/2026 at 03:59:33

I’m with Tony Hughes.

Paul Griffiths
295 Posted 30/08/2026 at 06:35:48

Don - 284 - If they allow him to go the ONLY thing that'll register is non-attendance at a game at what he considers to be his own Bring More Dosh stadium.

The problem there mate is the huge proportion of season tickets and the number of away fans.

Much of the money is already banked Don.

Paul Griffiths
296 Posted 30/08/2026 at 06:40:17

MG mate, what would your view of TFG be if - IF - they sold Harrison to Forest?

Eric Myles
297 Posted 30/08/2026 at 06:51:13

Jack #279 & Jeff #256, that's provided the Club get a percentage of the franchisees takings. Chairman Bill sold off the rights on F&B remember.

Derek Thomas
298 Posted 30/08/2026 at 06:56:28

Paul @ 295; It's all about The Merch, don't forget The Merch...and the pies etc.

Empty seats...even paid for ones...buy No Merch, or pies - not 1.

If the fanbase is really wound up enough, to boycott, then they have to harden their hearts to cries of 'Be careful what you wish for' or 'Remember 777' or worse still, the dreaded - 'kopite behaviour that'

Edit; though as a club and a fanbase I doubt enough have it in them to make it viable for long enough.

We're soft, we're prey, we go Baa. Which is why low life predators, Hyenas like Notts Forest think they can sniff round.

Mike Gaynes
299 Posted 30/08/2026 at 06:58:28

PG #296, I would consider it moronic stupidity in the extreme, not just for football and financial reasons but even more for the staggering imbecility of instantly and permanently antagonizing virtually 100% of their club's fan base, as well as unforgiveably alienating most of their most valuable employees.

The Athletic, which first broke the story of the Armstrong offer less than 24 hours ago, just posted this from Paddy Boyland minutes ago. It makes clear that Moyes opposes the move, but it crucially does NOT report that TFG is actively negotiating or considering the offer, which seems to offer a degree of hope that Friedkin will not ultimately sanction this idiocy (or the Ndiaye deal):

‘Don’t sell Armstrong’, sang Everton fans. So will emotion or financial reality win?

The message to the Everton hierarchy needed no interpretation.

In the Vitality Stadium concourses before kick-off on Saturday, during the 1-1 draw with Bournemouth and at full time, the Merseyside club’s supporters made their feelings known about the potential sale of teenage midfielder Harrison Armstrong to Nottingham Forest.

“Don’t sell Armstrong, Harrison Armstrong, I just don’t think you understand,” they sang throughout the day, to the tune of Achy Breaky Heart. “If you sell Armstrong, Harrison Armstrong, you’re gonna have a riot on your hands.”

An afternoon of emotion and symbolism ended with Armstrong standing for an extended period, clapping the away end as they repeated their message.

He received sympathetic hugs as he left the pitch, from captain James Tarkowski and fellow defender Jarrad Branthwaite. Everton manager David Moyes had also been over to applaud the travelling support as his young charge’s name rang around the stadium.

If any of the club’s hierarchy was in any doubt as to how fans would react to the news of a potential move for Armstrong, first reported by The Athletic on Saturday morning and confirmed after the match by Moyes, they know now. Consider them warned.

“I know that there’s been an offer, but I’ve not got much else to say about it,” Moyes said, before adding that it would be a “club decision” as to whether they cash in on the 19-year-old academy graduate.

The Scot then echoed his message from recent press conferences: that Everton needed to add to their squad, not weaken it by selling first-team players. Forward Iliman Ndiaye has also been attracting interest from elsewhere in the Premier League, including Manchester City, ahead of the summer window closing on Tuesday.

It is hard to see how Everton could lose two players of this ilk at such short notice and replace them sufficiently to be equipped for a tilt at European qualification this season. That, after all, is the stated aim of their owners at The Friedkin Group, according to chief executive Angus Kinnear.

Moyes, who has repeatedly stated his desire to retain star forward Ndiaye, knows this better than most.

The most resonant line of all from Saturday’s post-match press conference came when he was asked if he had a message for fans ahead of that looming transfer deadline, with so much uncertainty surrounding the futures of Armstrong and Ndiaye, and with a new right-back yet to be signed.

“If I said anything (to them), I’d say that their manager’s an Evertonian,” he responded pointedly, in a way that attempted to align his thoughts and hopes with theirs.

With that, the buck was passed. The story rumbles on. Others, including owners TFG, may now bear more of the brunt of any post-deadline fallout.

At the centre of all the drama and speculation, it should be remembered, is a kid at the beginning of his professional journey.

Armstrong played yesterday, despite the intense speculation, and did well, to the surprise of nobody at the club. He still thundered into tackles and, despite clearly flagging due to fatigue, attempted to drive his side forward in search of an equaliser after the break. It showed the kind of maturity many at Everton have come to expect from him, and helped explain why he is held in such high regard by his peers.

“I’ve been on the end of transfer rumours, and it’s not easy, so for a kid of his age to go and perform the way he did today with all that speculation around him — fair play,” Tarkowski told reporters.

“Harrison’s been brilliant. I’ve known him for four or five years now. He’s a super-talented kid, a massive character in our dressing room for someone so young, and we all love him. His potential is massive, and he’s already improved so much.

“I’d want him here, of course. He’s been super-important so far to us, but it shows how much of a good player he is with all that speculation around him. “

In purely footballing terms, losing Armstrong now makes little sense for Everton.

He already looks at home in the Premier League, and many of those who have worked closely with him tip him as a future England international. He is a local boy, bringing a much-needed sense of connection with fans; the kind that progressive, upwardly-mobile sides normally want to build around.

A fee of £40million is solid money for someone yet to fulfil all of his obvious promise, certainly with clubs such as Everton having to pay close attention to regulatory hurdles. And the sale of someone who came through the academy like him would show as pure profit on the books.

But there is a chance, if Armstrong develops, that such a sum looks relatively cheap in a year or two. Think of Newcastle United’s £35million sale of Elliot Anderson, also to Forest, in summer 2024 and his subsequent £116m move to Manchester City in this window.

Selling the future to satisfy the present rarely works out well, particularly when the situation is this visceral.

Perhaps this will be a decision between the emotional and footballing sides and the cold financials. It remains to be seen, for example, how much, if at all, fan sentiment can influence matters already in the works.

“I’m not in charge of the finances, so it’s not really my decision,” Tarkowski, who scored the 91st-minute equaliser, said when asked whether he wanted Everton to retain Armstrong and Ndiaye. “From a selfish standpoint, they are two terrific players in a dressing room full of terrific players, so I’d want to keep everyone if it was my choice.

“But you know how football works — people come and go all the time. Iliman’s been terrific in his time here. He’s shown what a quality player he is, so why would you want to lose someone like that?”

Everton supporters, no doubt, will be asking similar questions.

A critical few days await. They will test all key figures at the club, potentially defining perceptions and legacies.

It is hard to come back from false steps with fans when so much emotion is involved.

Over to you, then, Everton.

I personally would add that if TFG has been reading and listening to the fans over the past 24 hours, they've gotten a thorough education in how we feel about our homegrowns. Sacking club legend De Rossi as Roma manager triggered a rebellion from their Ultras that included death threats to their CEO's children (who promptly resigned) and a bunch of angry banners. I hope they now understand that the Everton reaction to the sale of this player -- whom TFG may have viewed as merely a talented but second-string teenager rather than a symbol of the club's future hopes -- would make the year and a half of Roma hostilities look like a birthday party by comparison.

Friedkin would never be forgiven.

He has spent his life listening to customers -- of his Toyotas, of his movies, of his resorts. He'd better be fucking listening now.

Paul Griffiths
300 Posted 30/08/2026 at 07:23:05

Brilliant post MG - 299.

This was heartwarming:

'An afternoon of emotion and symbolism ended with Armstrong standing for an extended period, clapping the away end as they repeated their message'.

Has anyone actually said this in 300 posts? There's no way that Harrison wants to leave us and his mam's cooking for fecking Nottingham Forest.

But we had better start paying him a salary more in line with what he is and what he means. The whisper I have heard about his present salary is shocking. I earn more than he does, for fuck's sake!

New contract. Six years. Beginning with £80k a week.

We have a future world class player on our hands who, like Wayne, fecking loves our club.

Jack Convery
301 Posted 30/08/2026 at 07:27:08

Eric if the franchises are not selling stuff, they will be hammering at the Chairman's door.

We need to do this. They obviously have bought the stadium as a cash cow. Let's show them we are not idiots and stand up and be counted.

Mike Gaynes
302 Posted 30/08/2026 at 07:31:23

Yes, Paul, and it's why I love Boyland, a journalist of whom I know you have been skeptical. He captures those details that truly inform us of what's going on.

The kid wants to stay. Moyes wants him to stay. His teammates want him to stay. And the traveling Blues sang their lungs out for 2 hours in the same cause.

Davey has probably asked Friedkin to buy him one of the best young right-backs in the world. The Armstrong money could deliver Doue. It ain't worth it. TFG should know that now. Davey certainly does.

I hope -- and expect -- that when Forest calls back in the morning, Friedkin hangs up.

Jack Convery
303 Posted 30/08/2026 at 07:40:14

Newcastle had their shorts pulled down by Forest, over Anderson, when they sold him for £35M and now we are going to do the same.

It's insane. Economics of the mad house.

Paul Griffiths
304 Posted 30/08/2026 at 07:42:54

Let's hope so Mike.

On Boyland, I'm a tad sceptical of all journos, but I subscribe to The Athletic and I'm becoming a believer.

MG on the naughty couch again.

Paul Griffiths
305 Posted 30/08/2026 at 07:45:20

On the other hand Jack - 303 - that's some top-notch wheeling and dealing by Forest - we could do with some of that - but they aint getting Harrison who they would sell next year.

Mike Gaynes
306 Posted 30/08/2026 at 07:47:28

Naughty couch???

Nigel Scowen
307 Posted 30/08/2026 at 07:47:54

Mike@302

I think you are spot on about the whole right back thing Mike.

Moyes has probably had the audacity to ask for a decent right back and they have told him we will need to sell to make that happen.

Like you said though why would they sell an asset that could be worth double in 12 months time.

The glimmer of hope here is that this Tete stuff has surfaced because Moyes has said no I don’t want to sell Armstrong, so they have said well in that case Tete it is then.

At this moment in time I would settle for the end of the window and all of our players staying, minus Beto, Tim and Patterson and getting Richy and a good quality young right back, whoever is left.

Paul Griffiths
308 Posted 30/08/2026 at 07:51:33

You're up late for you. Been kicked out of the marital bedroom.

Mike Gaynes
309 Posted 30/08/2026 at 07:54:12

Nigel, agreed except for selling Beto.

No.

You can't get through a season AND make a Cup run on two strikers, let alone one. Three is a minimum.

And Beto's 5-in-6 purple patches have a way of winning games for us.

Definitely keep him through this season.

Mike Gaynes
310 Posted 30/08/2026 at 07:56:10

Not a chance, Paul. It's only midnight and I am awaited.

Paul Griffiths
311 Posted 30/08/2026 at 07:59:05

👍👍👍👍

Darren Hind
312 Posted 30/08/2026 at 08:01:44

Boyland strikes aqain.

Not a single thing that anyone who watched the match didn't already know. Nice work if you can get it.

Nigel Scowen
313 Posted 30/08/2026 at 08:08:57

Paul@300

I wasn't aware of how little this kid was actually earning until I googled it. £62,000 a year, that can't be right can it.

Surely in the real world, when a young lad breaks into the first team in the Premier League then an automatic review of their contract should happen immediately.

Start paying him, you tight arses!

Russell Fairclough
314 Posted 30/08/2026 at 08:12:30

Seen it all before and it becomes no less painful.

This will put money in the bank initially and cause massive loss of confidence in the board and owners from here on in.

He has to stay. Hopefully he has more loyalty to Everton than those in charge.

Paul Griffiths
315 Posted 30/08/2026 at 08:12:37

Completely Nigel. Or, on the other hand, you and I could chip in to buy him a used car mate.

Paul Griffiths
316 Posted 30/08/2026 at 08:13:42

Erm. Jesus Russell, - Hopefully he has more loyalty to Everton than those in charge - is that in any doubt at all?

Rob Halligan
317 Posted 30/08/2026 at 08:32:38

I know it won’t happen, but why doesn’t Harrison Armstrong just come out and say “I’m not going”. I heard yesterday that a medical has been booked for him for today, (though cannot see any evidence of this), so just “don’t attend”. It was obvious from his reaction at the end of the game he doesn’t want to leave.

And why Forest, I mean fuck me Why Fucking Forest? You could understand it if it were Man City or Arsenal, but fucking Nottingham Forest. There’s nothing special about that club at all, apart from winning 2 European cups over 45 years ago. FFS they’re only just back in the premier league having spent well over twenty years out of it. Fucking Scabs!!

In 2 or 3 years time Harrison Armstrong will be worth probably double the alleged asking price of £40M, and a pretty good chance the shite will sign him.

Put simply this transfer must not, and should not be allowed to happen.

Jimmy Carr
318 Posted 30/08/2026 at 08:39:35

Derek (298) spot on. If Armstrong goes there’ll be a backlash of sorts, but people will still go the game and TFG will still pick up their money, nothing will really change. Football is an emotional game but some of the outrage about this defies rationality. Does anyone really think that not selling a few pies at the match is going to make a difference to the Friedkins? Or that somehow evil David Moyes is behind the whole thing? Apparently some do, I’ve read the posts.

Chris James tried to rationalise it and got shouted down, but he’s right. Everyone sells their jewels in the premier league, if the price is right. As it happens £40m seems undervalued for Armstrong, but only if he fulfils his potential. If, and it’s a big if, he does turn out to be as good as the ‘experts’ on here reckon, then we’ll almost certainly be selling him in two or three years time for astronomical numbers anyway.

If we’re short of readies right now, then this might be the best solution from the club’s perspective, but the optics will not be good for the Friedkins, regardless of how good it makes the balance sheet look.

Colin Glassar
319 Posted 30/08/2026 at 08:45:39

After a restless night (I'm still pissed off even thinking about the possibility of Harrison being sold), I now feel slightly more optimistic that this horrendous scenario will not play out.

I believe Armstrong's agent may have initiated talks with the greasy Greek in order to get Harrison a better deal for his client. I mean, the lad's on £5k per week!!

Moyes hasn't helped things by saying Harrison is only playing due to injuries to other players. His handling of young players has never been his strong point.

I've never trusted TFG, or any other billionaire owners for that matter, to have the same love and passion we feel for the club. We are just part of their business portfolio. A number on a spreadsheet.

But who knows? Maybe in this age of tech oligarchs, Elon Musk might try and get one over Jeff Bezos and buy a stake in Everton?

I think (hope) both Harrison and Ndiaye will stay (at least in this window) and we will end up with Tete, Richarlison and Grealish on TDD and look back on this window as being relatively successful... if not stress-free.

Eric Myles
320 Posted 30/08/2026 at 08:50:04

£5k a week, Colin? Now that's something I'd consider.

Someone posted on another thread he's on £1.5k a week.

Laurie Hartley
321 Posted 30/08/2026 at 08:54:20

Unfortunately, Rob (117), no one except Dan Friedkin can stop it from happening. He is a billionaire who became one by making a profit.

I think the only thing that would make him prevent the sale is if he thought it would risk our Premier League status. No doubt he will have pondered the possibility of making £100M profit in one day (Armstrong £40M and Ndiaye £60M).

He won't have to deal with fan outrage because he won't be visiting the Hill Dickinson stadium in the foreseeable future.

When it comes to the world of finance I have become totally cynical. It is all about the money. I hope I am wrong, fellas -- I will welcome a full-scale bollicking on Wednesday morning if I am.

Steve Brown
322 Posted 30/08/2026 at 08:58:51

My guess is that David Moyes would prefer to stick with his current squad and no additions than lose Ndiaye and Armstrong and not have time to recruit quality replacements.

As for Armstrong, will he be worth more than £40 million in 12 months based on his performances in the team since the summer? If the answer is yes - I would say yes definitely - then I don’t see the logic in selling him this summer.

Send him on loan to a Dutch or German team on loan for a season. He will come back into the first team next season and probably be worth £10-20 million more. From a football or business angle, the deal does not make sense.

More importantly, TFG will burn their bridges with supporters big time. It will take a lot for them to build back the trust and the first time the results and performances drop off, the fans’ anger will build.

A huge, stupid own goal if they go through with the deal.

Eric Myles
323 Posted 30/08/2026 at 09:01:06

Jack #301, I'd expect the chairman to shrug his shoulders and tell them to maybe lower the prices.

The only way it affects TFG is if they get a cut of the turnover, and then what is that in the overall scheme of things?

Sean Kelly
324 Posted 30/08/2026 at 09:03:32

If Harrison is off to forest TFG will just do as they normally do. They will sit it out and say fuck all. They are only interested in the money the stadium and assets bring in. Harrison just like everyone in the squad is an asset. TFG’s only interest is the money. We will in time be another Wimbledon with no ground renting their stadium while languishing in the lower leagues. Venues make money football clubs don’t. A lick of paint turns the stadium into the new AVIVA of the northwest.

Colin Glassar
325 Posted 30/08/2026 at 09:25:36

Eric 320, most of us would grab that with both hands and feet, except for rich people like PG #300).

Rob Halligan, spot on once again. Why would he move to Scabsville FC? Makes no sense from a football point of view. As you said, if it was one of the Sly 6 I could (barely) understand it. But Nottingham fucking Forrest? Has Clough returned from the dead with Woodcock, Francis, Robertson, Lloyd, McGovern, Burns etc…?

And why sell anyway? Are we short of a few Bob? Are we still a sell-to-buy club? Has nothing changed since the Arteta money went missing? Is kenshite still pulling the strings from beyond the grave? Questions, questions, questions

Kevin Molloy
326 Posted 30/08/2026 at 09:33:07

I think we are missing a rather big piece in this puzzle. cos the facts as currently presented just do not make sense. We've been on the naughty step for five years, spent a hundred million last year, so where have these 'restrictions' come from, I thought we'd had a record breaking year. And if we do need to raise money, why aren't the deals we need to do being done. Beto, Charly, Tim, even Jake. Why go straight to HA?
Now I'm not a fan of Angus, but even he surely didn't know this was coming around the bend, that we would be selling HA, and bringing in a clapped out right back as our 'star signing'. He was telling us literally days ago, about the exciting journey we were about to enter on.
In the normal course of events a bid would come in, Angus would go to Moyes, and they would surely agree 'no thanks'. Why did that not happen, Why on earth are the Friedkins involving themselves in player sales. Surely you leave that to your paid experts, who know the value of the player to the club and to the squad. Obv there are times when the owners ignore their staff if they need to get their hands on money fast, is that the case here? seemingly not. Roma have spent a hundred million, and are expected to spend another 80 in the next couple of days. So no signs TFG are under stress. Of course, they could be doing a Hicks/gillette taking from Liverpool to fund the Socks. But surely they wouldn't be that stupid.
If these appalling people press on and sell, and give us no explanation that immediately puts us all in the picture, then we know beyond a doubt we are being treated with contempt as a cash cow. In such event, I reckons serious organised ongoing protests will become the norm. And 'Daniel Friedkin, is a wanker' to be chanted at each and every global game until he fucks off.

Andy Mead
327 Posted 30/08/2026 at 09:37:13

TFG don't give a flying fuck what any of us think. They will sell if they want to and won't if they don't. They know people will moan but still come back, and tourists/day trippers will spend more in a day than most regulars do in a season. Harsh but true. Its the modern game, its business, they don't care. How many times have they visited our shiny new stadium since we moved in?
Unless you can find a local businessman who actually cares about the club then that's what we can expect. Its everything most of us hate about modern football. These next few days will tell us a lot about what they really think.

Dave Whitwell
328 Posted 30/08/2026 at 09:37:29

I’ll refrain my final judgement until after Tuesday to see what actually transpires, but I will say if the Armstrong transfer happens I think that will be it for me with this club, I only wish the transfer window shut before the season tickets were sold so you had the full picture before outlayimg your money.

We all put our heart and souls into this club spending our hard earned cash, living and breathing every minute in the faintest glimour of hope something might actually get better. This sale would represent the ultimate defeat in that hope. It’s not the value of the transfer the essence of defeat here is the club we are selling to, we are basically signalling that as a club we expect to punch below Notts Forest, I mean no disrespect to their supporters they are as committed to their club as we are to ours, but we were sold this fancy new stadium, news owners, god knows how many apparently phoenomimal commercial deals all to be a club showing promise to be moving in the right direction again. This sale represent that all of that is a lie, we are still in dire straits and there is a fundamental lack of honesty with thee fans which is unacceptable.

Mike Hayes
329 Posted 30/08/2026 at 09:52:25

I wonder if the £40M paid out to Burnley had anything to do with it?

One minute we've got money the next the rumour of selling Ndiaye and now Armstrong for the same figure -- something smells and it ain't rotting fish 🤷💙

Colin Glassar
330 Posted 30/08/2026 at 09:55:29

The deal is off!! TFG, and kinnear, back down after fan backlash according to Ornstein. People Power is still a thing 👏👏👏👏

Frank Fearns
331 Posted 30/08/2026 at 09:57:33

Dave 329 - your words can only come from an Evertonian with a heart for the club. Sadly for our billionaire owners we are just another asset, a toy that can be played with.

I’m not sure these owners will ever get what our beloved club is.

Craig Burrell
332 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:05:33

BBC News - Harrison Armstrong: Everton call off transfer to Nottingham Forest after fan backlash - BBC Sport
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0lrge3dwklo

Brian Harrison
333 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:08:28

Firstly I don't believe that Harrison Armstrong didnt know about the discussions with Forest, his agent would have been giving him chapter and verse as to everything being discussed. He obviously hired Anthony Gordons agent for exactly this reason, either to get a massive increase in salary or a move to a club that would pay him the money he and his agent think he is worth.Having said all of that what this does highlight is only a week ago our CEO did various interviews saying we were in a far better place financially and we didnt need to sell. He also went on to say what a fabulous youth system we have and actually highlighted Harrison saying it was great to see a home grown talent breaking into the first team. Now I wonder had Forest at the time of the interview already contacted the club over Armstrong. It would seem that Angus cant even lay stright in bed. So all trust in this ownership is irrevocally broken. Now this possible transfer isn't near the sale of Alan Ball to Arsenal or Rooney to Man Utd, in terms of quality of the players being sold, but were its far more important than those sales is there were mitigating circumstances in those sales there is none in this Armstrong deal.

Fair play to Moyes who has been put in an awful position by the owners and our CEO he has come out and said he didnt want any player sold and when asked what message he had for the fans protesting at this possible transfer said " I am an Evertonian.
Now maybe Kinnear thinks are they will quieten down when we bring in Grealish and Richarlison, well Angus I think you have greatly misjudged the Everton fan base. I see they have gone back in for Tete from fulham yes the same player who turned us down last year.

I think a bigger question for our fan base if this Armstrong deal goes through is what are we going to do about it. Whatever we do has to be very drastic and hits the Friedkin group in their pockets. Also with the camaras there for our next home game against Utd what an ideal time. My choice of protest is don't buy anything in the ground, no food no ale and a mass walk out at 85 minutes which will be very visible on Sky.

Jon Atkinson
334 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:12:05

the 1878,s announced cessation of flag displays earlier today

Jeff Armstrong
335 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:13:08

Imagine if the news of the bid would have come 24 hours later on a non match day? He’d be gone.
Well done the away supporters once again

Paul Griffiths
336 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:18:00

BH - 344 - I'm off to bed now in Chicago at an unearthly how coz of this. Thanks mate.

Eric Myles
337 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:19:54

Colin #325, I'm with PG. If Armstong is only on £5k a month then I get paid more than that also, and I bet the lad has to pay tax on that too. £5k a week is worth getting out of bed for.

But then when I was 19, £5k a month would have been a princely sum, I was getting less than that a year.

Christy Ring
338 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:25:22

Kinnear should resign now, totally toothless, and give Harrison a new contract, and pay him the same as our top earners.

Jimmy Carr
339 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:26:00

Brian (340) how do you know Kinnear made the decision to potentially sell Armstrong? He’s an employee, just like Moyes. If the decision came from higher up the ladder then he’d just have to go along with it. My guess is that it came from the Friedkins. But like you, I’m just guessing.

Anyway deal off so we can all go back to what we do best and complain about David Moyes again, blaming him for the cost of living crisis, immigration, global warming etc.

Colin Glassar
340 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:27:11

Eric, I thought it was 5k P/W. Ndiaye to spuds for £80m plus Richarlison. No deal otherwise.

Eric Myles
341 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:27:22

David #152, that's not why Royle left.

John Collins
342 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:29:51

Jimmy,

"The manager is an Evertonian"
All is well 😁

Keith Harrison
343 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:31:30

If this is true, Steve 348, where's our next winger coming from??

Moyes does not want Grealish back! I'd rather keep Illi personally, but still sign Richy - if cheap enough.

Keith Harrison
344 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:33:40

Jimmy Carr - 353 - You're an absolute comedian!!

Josh Horne
345 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:34:20

Bid rejected, sanity prevails.

Huge gratitude to the travelling blues who emphatically sent out the message that this was unacceptable.

Andrew Merrick
346 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:37:25

Well done blues, one aim, one voice, one nil!

Paul Norman
347 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:42:19

Keith @358 - if we get significant money for Ndiaye, then Doue at right-back should be our priority (as well as Tete as back-up).

But maybe there's still headroom there to go for Diao as our new winger, as rumoured earlier in the summer.

Realistic? No, of course not, but possible.

Colin Glassar
348 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:44:36

Echoing Jeff #351, if Ndiaye wants CL footy why got to a side who’ll be fighting relegation again this season? It makes no sense. Spurs are as dysfunctional as we are. If he does go it will probably a be a Pienaar move. Ie he’ll be back next season.

Mark Taylor
349 Posted 30/08/2026 at 11:06:10

Mike G

I didn't accuse Chris of not being an Evertonian. I painted a scenario, not a good one, and said if such an outcome was thought to be smart, then they wouldn't be an Evertonian. And they wouldn't be.

To be fair to Chris, I think he was just musing around possible rationales for this madness. Which is also why I started my first post 'with all due respect'. I think having mused, Chris made it clear it was not a situation he supported either.

So Chris might be an Evertonian but I'm not convinced our owners are. If Ndiaye does go and we just get Grealish instead and some second rate RB, then this window falls way short of expectations built by Kinnear (and presumably the owners unless they are all singing out of tune).

I think those including myself who sensed a serious disconnect between Moyes and the club hierarchy appear to be not far wrong. I wonder if that can be healed.

On the upside, not it seems the deal is off, maybe the owners might have learnt an important lesson, don't take your customer base for granted.

Ian Munford
350 Posted 30/08/2026 at 11:10:45

But hang on here, what happens if Forest increase their bid, £60m, £70m!!!

Lord Hughes
351 Posted 30/08/2026 at 11:24:30

Dispassionately speaking Armstrong sale with a super big sell on clause makes business sense. We have good young players like him already. Including new additions like Hackney.

The emotions are because he's homegrown. It just sends a bad message right now. If they'd signed some cracking players to fill all known gaps earlier on, it would have played out better.

Mark Taylor
352 Posted 30/08/2026 at 11:46:40

Lord Hughes 375

I can't speak for others but the issue here is not so much that he's a local, just that he is a fantastic talent, that we've been told the plan is to keep our best young players, and this is not exactly a bid to blow things out of the water by a top CL side, it's to a club that finished beneath us.

Kinnear was very keen to tell us we are now a 'top third' club in terms of revenue, having been a 'bottom third' club. I see some dissonance between that claim and this aborted sale.

I hope Ian 376 is wrong in his appraisal but now I am not remotely confident that is the case. If money really is that tight for us, whoever signed Dibling needs firing.

Andy Mead
353 Posted 30/08/2026 at 22:46:59

The owners have shown their true colours here. Fan fury might have won this battle, but the real question is, why where you looking to sell him in the first place? Did they ask Moyes? If they did and he said no, did they just ride rough shot over his opinion anyway? Did the player have any say in this? Agent stirring the shit? A lot of questions to be answered. No wonder the right back farse just keeps rolling on.