During the past season we have all followed the debates in these pages as to whether or not David Moyes is the man to "take Everton to the next level" (?). Some supportive of him, others less so. Perhaps today's news somewhat draws us back to the deeper issues of personal integrity, the courage to take a stand in order to defend it, the magnanimity to accept a decision in your favour without malice, contempt or denigration of one's "opponent" and the generosity to go beyond personal gratification and to put the huge sums awarded into efforts to service the needs of others.
I am sure the debates about team selection, transfer policy and practice, etc will continue into the next season as well! No doubt I and others will continue to bemoan the inability of certain players to do the basics well ? like pass a football accurately etc, and wonder how on earth can the manager not see this, or see that so-and-so is not up to the job. What today has confirmed, however, is that Everton Football Club have a man in charge of team affairs who at the personal level deserves nothing but our highest admiration, respect and our thanks and appreciation for being here at our club. When one looks at the public posturings of others, managers and players alike; the ludicrous egotistical playing to the media of the likes of Mourinho and to a lesser extent the cynical manipulations of those such as Benitez one really does have to appreciate the personal calibre of David Moyes.
Perhaps it is time to take a step back from this maniacal pursuit of the "top-four place" for in truth until there is a much more "level playing field" the boring monopoly of the current four will continue for some time yet. Perhaps the next level for Everton is to consistently be were they are now while making progress in the cup competitions etc and eating away at the differentials (points!) between us and the top four. "The next level" may in fact be to beat the said four a little more frequently? Whatever.
At this moment in time I just feel that there is no fan base in this Premier League that should be more proud of the man in charge of their team than supporters of Evertion Football Club and send him our sincere congratulations on his victory today ? it went far wider than the courtroom.
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1 Posted 03/06/2008 at 23:31:01
2 Posted 03/06/2008 at 23:41:40
3 Posted 03/06/2008 at 23:48:43
4 Posted 03/06/2008 at 23:51:25
5 Posted 04/06/2008 at 00:05:15
6 Posted 04/06/2008 at 00:18:20
7 Posted 04/06/2008 at 00:13:20
It gives you back some faith in football and reminds you there are more important things than the Champions League.
8 Posted 04/06/2008 at 00:22:19
9 Posted 04/06/2008 at 00:32:54
10 Posted 04/06/2008 at 00:17:55
11 Posted 04/06/2008 at 00:37:34
My sentiments exactly. I have recently been trying to explain the concept of a PROPER football club to the local glory hunters and EFC and Villa prove my point!
12 Posted 04/06/2008 at 00:42:42
13 Posted 04/06/2008 at 01:09:36
He is not - and I believe never will be - the man to succeed Sir Alex at Old Trafford.
That is of absolutely no consequence to Everton as he is doing fine here.
He is certainly NOT the man to take us to ?the next level? !
That man (or woman) will be the one who bank-rolls our beloved club in similar fashion or something very close to it as Mr Abramovich has done for Chelsea.
Just look at the so called ?Big Four?.
That is an absolute myth..........sheer fiction !!!
There is no big four , big three or even big two.
Manchester United is out there on its own from Chelsea.
Arsenal is some way behind that in playing strength.
Liverpool is certainly (by income) and squad costs the fourth ?biggest? side in England but how can they be considered members of the ?Big Anything? when they have never won a Premier Championship ??
HOW CAN THEY BE BIG FOUR WHEN THEY PLAY THEIR GAMES IN A SLUM LIKE ANFIELD ?
New stadium ?........in today?s financial climate ?......forget it !
Want something even more damning.......take a look at how often they have been second in the Premier and how long ago that was !
It is no disgrace for Moyes not to be the equal of Sir Alex Ferguson.............nobody else has got even close to Alex since he came down from Aberdeen to take over from Fat Ron.
Ferguson was four years younger than Moyes is now when he led little Aberdeen to two European trophies
not to mention three league titles for a side that had only won one of these in 77 years of trying.
Ferguson had to sell before buying throughout his time at Aberdeen.
Man U was in the bottom half of the table when Fergie arrived at Old Trafford (after taking a pay cut to move down from Aberdeen) and here?s the bit I like best.
Who were the Champions of England then ???????
Everton.........that?s who !
Changed days but surely a realistic target for David Moyes would be leading the Blues to a second succesive ?best of the rest title? in 2008/9.
Barring the money ?miracle? that would be fine for me.
Benitez is a twerp and a loser.............I just love that guy and I am sure that as long as he is in charge over there , LFC will never collect a Premier title.
If he fouls up badly next season , we might just about scrape fourth and can I leave you with one nice thought.
If we get as many ?poor decisions? from referees which work in our favour next season as we had ?poor decisions? that cost us points this time.........happy days eh ?
14 Posted 04/06/2008 at 01:33:05
I applaud the guy for donating the monetary gains to the EFCFP foundation. After all, it wasn?t his money in the first place, but alledgedly it was a significant amount and could make his family life far easier. One could postulate he is reportedly on circa. 50K per week but that is not guaranteed for ever. A bad run and who knows? BK loves him but one never knows the future...
What I am upset with is the Rooney factor. WR has to apologise to DM. I am fine with that IF it was public and pasted all over the newspapers. That ain?t gonna happen. It will likely be a written apology crafted by his publishers delivered through the mail. Class??
His publishers are going to pay all the fines because they did not proof read!!
FFS he gave them the info! He was the guilty party! If he had not given the info there would be no need for it to be proof read! Again Shrek gets a mere tap on the hand. Why am I not surprised? WR Class? DM CLASS!
15 Posted 04/06/2008 at 03:25:05
I was wondering, what are Moyes’ thoughts about Kirkby? He may not comment on the economics side but I would like to hear his thoughts on the morality, integrity side.
16 Posted 04/06/2008 at 05:11:34
My management lecturer at uni used to harp on about Moysey at PNE way before he joined us. Today's ruling plus his jesture on the compensation received confirms my measure of the man. We are a very lucky fanbase right now. It makes me so proud to have a man of such integrity at our helm and sums up what Everton is all about in my mind.
17 Posted 04/06/2008 at 07:08:22
Yes indeed Alex Ferguson achieved success in Europe for Aberdeen - but the game was totally different then - there was not so much commercialism e.g. the Eurpean Champions Cup - as it was then- was just that - for the CHAMPIONS. I reckon DM can be compared to the renowned Sir Alex - and in my opionion he is not too far behind him in terms of managerial and tactical ability - and way ahead of him in terms of integrity.
18 Posted 04/06/2008 at 08:00:13
19 Posted 04/06/2008 at 08:27:01
Never doubted DM’s integrity, an example to his peers. Can’t wait for next season.
20 Posted 04/06/2008 at 09:30:36
This is why I’m a Blue. In reality, football is only part of it.
21 Posted 04/06/2008 at 09:41:43
Dave Torley - spot on mate.
I remember sitting in a pub in London with a few RS mates (bless ’em!) after they’d beaten Chelsea in the Champs Lge semi where Garcia punched the ball in, having a blazing row about why people love football and the way I see things as a Blue.
These lads went on and on about how all that matters is "top players competing at the highest level... multi million pound transfer targets... Champions League, blah blah blah". How people are only really interested in the "Big Games" and "Big Teams" because that’s all that really matters.
I guess as an Evertonian these past 20yrs have given us a little more perspective than our deluded neighbours, but if all that jazz is all your in it for then there’s something wrong. It’s like Rangers fans where I now live in Glasgow, talking about how it doesn’t matter if Gretna go out of business at the end of the season as long as it doesn’t affect their points totals come the final day. Smashing to see them pipped to the post by Celtic.
Davie Moyes has been a shining light for us in so many more ways than just what his teams have achieved on the field of play, the style in which they’ve done so, what prize money he’s brought in, etc. The man is doing great and bit-by-bit has given us what we haven’t had in years, namely stability and a TEAM, i.e. - a solid back four and keeper, a midfield (I’d forgotten what one of those was! Dogs of War anyone?!) and class acts the likes of Arteta, Pienaar and Yakubu on top of that.
Roll on 2008/09 and however we get on, I’m proud of Moyes and our lads because I know they’ll give it their best.
Finally, returning to the original point of this thread (at last!!), Moyes’ handling of the Rooney affair from start to (four years later!) finish has been exemplary. Nice to see justice done for a change too with the court ruling. It’s a rare privilege to have such a decent, hard-working, honest and principled man in charge of our club, I wouldn’t swap him for anyone.
22 Posted 04/06/2008 at 10:42:36
Fairly sad, yet not really surprised, that the story rated one tiny paragraph in today’s Times.
Imagine the press response if one of the so-called ’top’ managers had done the same.
Oh, wait a minute, something to do with class and integrity may have some bearing on the subject.
Well done Mr Moyes
23 Posted 04/06/2008 at 10:49:22
What annoyed me though was the way it was reported. All the headlines were along the lines of "Moyes wins substantial damages", you had to read to the end of most of the stories to get to the part where he donates the money. It may be a consipracy too far, but I?m convinced that this is because they wanted to give the impression that he had somehow benefitted....
24 Posted 04/06/2008 at 11:06:19
25 Posted 04/06/2008 at 11:47:10
26 Posted 04/06/2008 at 12:16:06
"AND IF YOU KNOW YOUR HISTORY!!!"
I bloody love Everton!
27 Posted 04/06/2008 at 12:26:44
Some acts of integrity and courage endure. Hence a policy that even though the winner of a V.C. might afterwards do something heinous to blot their copybook, their award is no longer ever taken away from them (as it once was).
What Davey has done, in standing up for his honour and reputation (let?s remember it was him, no one else who was hurt by Rooney?s lies), and then giving his rightful compensation away - and to the Blue Blood foundation - may not exactly equate to the deeds required to win a V.C. but, in context, is equally deserving of enduring merit.
It is one aspect of the growing Moyes legend that should not be allowed to tarnish with age. So, don?t forget it!
As an aside, I too would like to applaud the ?Villans? for their decision to carry the name of a children?s hospice charity on their shirts next season - rather than bank an easy £2m from Mamon Inc.. WD Villa.
28 Posted 04/06/2008 at 12:47:44
Made up he won, as he was bound to because Rooney is just a lying fat twat.
29 Posted 04/06/2008 at 16:15:00
DAVEY MOYES - SUPER STAR!!!
30 Posted 04/06/2008 at 17:12:40
31 Posted 04/06/2008 at 19:33:41
Just kidding, good article Anthony and i wholeheartedly agree with the sentiments.
32 Posted 04/06/2008 at 19:41:36
33 Posted 04/06/2008 at 21:36:33
I agree with you totally, 100%.
However, I’m also painfully aware that some fans, sadly, use the foulest language when being critical and seem to equate a person’s worth as a human being according to their ability, or otherwise, to deliver results on the football field. I’m sure some pretty unpleasant and wholly unworthy things have been said of DM on this site in the past, and will, doubtless be used again!
Witness also the language used when some discuss KW. Fine criticise him, yes question his ability to do his job, but why do such posts have to be spiced with offensive labels?
It’s nice to see people lionise their footballing heroes. But let’s not forget also how soon some adoring crowds can turn into a lynch mob!
34 Posted 05/06/2008 at 08:52:22
I agree that Moyes is without doubt above criticiism as a man. However, let us not forget that we have qualified for Uefa Cup football for the last 2 years. More than that; DM has given us back our pride in our club.
Surely this should mean that there is nothing for us to criticise (presently)?
35 Posted 05/06/2008 at 09:39:37
36 Posted 05/06/2008 at 10:58:54
put your comments forward regarding joint stadium or LCC rejecting Kirkby project.
37 Posted 05/06/2008 at 12:04:11
I also agree that Moyes is not beyond criticism as a manager and I am sure the man himself does not think he is.
However, I do think that people quite often shoot from the hip when commenting on the team or manager. Not surprising though given the passions involved.
38 Posted 05/06/2008 at 13:05:54
39 Posted 08/06/2008 at 05:42:08
40 Posted 09/06/2008 at 15:08:01
41 Posted 12/06/2008 at 03:05:22
Family connections saw us end up in the front office after the game, where we managed to bump into Mr Moyes. Face like thunder (as you would after giving a goal away to that lot with 5 mins to go), but as soon as we were introduced, he broke into a broad smile, was happy to have a chat and let us get a cheesy pic for posterity.
The dude is all right!
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