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Listening to the Radio and local TV news, Mr Wyness specified that our vote will be binding. But then again yesterday the stadium was costing £75M, but today it has doubled. If the vote on the move is indeed binding, it is up to everyone who has a vote to weigh up very carefully the information provided to us before deciding for or against. I personally feel the move out of the city is foolish, but if the club can convince me 100% otherwise then I will support them. Unfortunately I don't think we will have as much access to the financial implications, as we would like, and this is why I am so apprehensive about the move being for the long-term good of the club.
John Partick McFarlane, Lancs     Posted 20/07/2007 at 20:43:17

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Michael Kenrick
Funny how different people hear different things.... Paul Henshaw (below) reckons it is not binding. Confused?
Paul Henshaw
1   Posted 20/07/2007 at 20:46:18

Having listened to KW on the radio tonight,it now seems although the ballot will be taken into account, at the end of the day it's a 'board decision'. Done deal, au revoir Walton, bonjour Kirkby! Shat on again, cheers Bully! :-(
tom Lynch
2   Posted 20/07/2007 at 22:21:42

Why cant we hold our fire on kirby. Give a two year period to find an alternative site with an investor. Appoint a commitee involving fans with busines interests, everton board members and members of liverpool city council to explore all avenues and in particular the possibilty of a site in the city.
I cant see any reason why the above cant work. It would allow above all clarity on every sitution and some control
Gavin Ramejkis
3   Posted 20/07/2007 at 22:29:03

Tom a few good questions but a share rights issue was mentioned a few years ago and didn’t see the light of day; if majority share holders are against reducing their potential wealth then it’s their say but it could and would have raised a significant amount of cash admittedly short term. The board consists of BK who has disappeared from public view with the exception of his hideous tv drivel, KW is a non share holding director so all outgoings from the club in his direction keep on outgoing to his well stocked bank account(s) and the pensioner himself Sir Philip Carter who probably has little if anything to say beyond a token smile and nod.

If you ny any chance got beyond the ivory tower to see these don’t be surprised of a firm no.
tom lynch
4   Posted 20/07/2007 at 22:36:06

Thats well and good what you say but something needs to be done to stop this. We are not an international brand and wont be unless we find an investor. This will be the slow death of this club not now but in time as it will erode our fan base. If Bradley is so keen to keep us in the city then te formation of such a commitee is nessessary.
Barry
5   Posted 20/07/2007 at 22:34:06

Try this link here from tonights interview with Wyness. He says categorically that if the ballot says no to Kirkby then the deal is dead. Believe it or not but there it is for what its worth.

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/kirkby-questions.html
Nick Harrison
6   Posted 20/07/2007 at 22:03:05

After mulling it over for months, I’ve decided which side to come down on, the pro-Kirkby side. It really is the deal of the century if what we’re told is true regarding our financial input, the lease, the state of the transport links. A few people on here seem to be stirring things in a futile manner,

"Is it £150Mil or is it £75Mil...we’re being told one thing and then another?!?"

Some people are using that as a genuine question and some are saying it to just cause confusion and panic (a Tony Marsh type comment). The breakdown of the figures is simple. £75Mil is what it will cost us, £50Mil of that is a donation from Knowsley Council thus we get the land for free. And seeing the fans aren’t happy that it’s not costing as much as Arsenal paid, the club are informing us that if we paid the full price for the project then it would cost £150Mil. The project is worth more than we’re having to chip in, surely that’s what we’ve been told ever since Tesco entered into this partnership with the club??

There’s a lesson in business about location, and that’s to try and locate your business no more than a ten minute drive from your target market. So, basically, you want to be in the middle with potential customers living within a ten minute diameter to you. Thus basing your business on a dock, along the Mersey, means your business is halved because half of that diameter is the river where no one lives except maybe Rosie and Jim, I dunno. Of course this isn’t as simple when you consider the transport links, especially the trains from the wirral to the city centre and the loyalty of football supporters, but you get the point. Therefore we may, and I stress ’may, be better positioned in Kirkby. Although the outskirts of Liverpool aren’t densely populated, there’s still a fair few people there and if they were to travel to football stadia then the more successful team, Liverpool, would probably be their option if they’re going to travel as far as Goodison. But if the New Goodison is closer to them, perhaps we could attract more fans. I know I’m neglecting the fans from Liverpool and perhaps North Wales too but I put my faith in them that they will follow the club regardless (it’s only four miles anyway). I know several of these fans will be angry and may want to create "Everton AFC" like Manchester Utd fans but I think, and I hope, it won’t come as far as that and cause as much of a row. We’re not going to start nicking fans off Liverpool in the city of Liverpool so we probably need to aim at the outskirts a little more.

Regardless, I think the benefits of the deal outweigh the negatives and the extra reasoning I’ve poorly tried to add is just an idea I had that would only be a bonus if it came true.

On the subject of stigma and the taunts from Liverpool fans of ’not being in the city’ any more. We’ll have to just put up with it and retort with the fact Kirkby is still a Liverpool postcode, and the hypocrasy of Liverpudlians who’ll happily treat Aintree as their own when the National comes along, although that’s not strictly Liverpool either.
Nick Harrison
7   Posted 20/07/2007 at 22:46:44

Bloody hell, posting that nearly buggered me computer.
tom lynch
8   Posted 20/07/2007 at 22:55:37

Just listened to kw interview. So if no in the ballot then no to the move. Does anybody hve an idea of the percentage yes/no vote at the moment

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