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Pienaar

Pienaar is in according to the Official Site. All I?ve ever seen of him is one of those YouTube collage things. But from that he looks like a reasonably skillful attacking midfielder. At least reasonable cover for Timmy C? Anyone know any more about him?
Richard Parker, Madrid, Spain Posted 24/07/2007 at 15:39:44

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James McCourt
1 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:05:41

Moyes will play him on the wing because he is a very skillfull player and very quick gud buy moyesey now lets move on to the next one

PL PL
2 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:13:40

Where is Paul Vogel gone? Is he brown bread now or what?

Duncan McDine
3 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:10:00

Yep, looks like he’s gonna slot into the right side of midfield when he plays. Hope he can show the form that made him so promising at Ajax. I think Leon will have his work cut out to keep that right MF role.

Great bit of business from Moyes... a lot of our best players have come from long loan spells with the option to turn into perminent deals. Yobo, Arteta, Howard and hopefully now Pienaar (shame they wanted so much for Fernandes, otherwise he’d be in there too).

Cheers, Dunc

David Barks
4 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:12:34

This should help the goal scoring ability of the squad. AJ and Victor up front, with Arteta on one wing, Cahill, Carsley or Jagielka, and Pienaar on the other wing. I am thrilled with a loan move also, if he proves good then we take him on permanently. I do hope we get Vogel in for the holding midfield role though. This would probably put our second string midfield as AVM, Osman, Carsley, Anderson da Silva, Jagielka, Neville. A 4-5-1 line up could actually work as well. We do need another striker to cover for Vaughan while he’s out though. Sell Beattie and put those funds to use.

Andy
5 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:19:44

Does anybody have any more info about Paul Vogel or his brother Johan?!

Nick Harrison
6 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:20:07

He’s worn the number ’10’ elsewhere but he’s been given the ’20’ for us next season. Hmmmm, who’s gonna take that number?

Declan Critchley
7 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:24:25

Andy in relation to Johann Vogel the deal is stalling as apparently Vogel and his club are arguing over money allegedly owed to him

Dan Mckie
8 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:25:34

Everton thought that Vogel was free but Betis want cash to cover what they owe to the player! Thats what you get for annoucing transfers before they are done and dusted!

PL PL
9 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:26:57

id say smith will get ten will he??

By the way, have we a number 34?

Graham Nolan
10 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:28:43

I would assume that once everything is sorted out between Vogel & Betis that the move will be a formailty.
It sounds like Betis owe the lad money and are refusing to pay it or are trying to get us to pay it....chancers!!

Dan Mckie
11 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:31:20

Vogel still has a year left on his contract so Betis dont have to give him to us,I think this maybe why there trying to get us to cover Vogels money (probably one of those ’loyalty’ payments)! He probably really needs it too,I bet hes living hand to mouth without it!! :)

PL PL
12 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:34:08

Sure all them swiss are loaded

Ger J
13 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:34:58

Something similar happened with Barton and Torres if I’m not mistaken?

Andy
14 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:31:58

So people think that the Vogel deal is still gonna happen?
Will Moyes still get him in if we have to pay out £1m as i’ve seen quoted?

Peter Laing
15 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:38:19

Everton have £6m apparently to spend so it looks likely that Alan Smith will be that long awaited addition, I know not exactly Riquelme but we are only Everton for fuck sake

PL PL
16 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:39:51

I would be very surprised! 1m is a lot in today’s market! If that hearts goalkeeper is worth 9m I fins it diffiuclt to believe Paul vogel is worth 0ne ninth of this value?

Jake
17 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:45:23

If we have 6 million would it not be better spent on Baines than Smith ? I mean baines is young and and Ingerland U21, smith is decent but he doesnt deserve the sacred number 34...

Jake
18 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:52:28

Also regarding the striker issue, I saw Van Der Meyde play centre forward for Ajax in 1997 against Guingamp and he scored 2 goals. Rather than spend a rash 6m on a short term replacement for Vaughan should we not give andy a shot at the hotseat ??

PL PL
19 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:54:02

Yeah, I reckon Ledley Baines is worth more than Smith?

But two thirds the value of the current Hearts onion bag blocker.. me thinks not!?

David Barks
20 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:54:54

What about this Norwegian international striker that we’re being linked with on Skysports.

Jake
21 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:57:10

I just see there that we have been linked with Freddy Adu. I think thats very exciting. I hear he’s the african american Wayne Rooney..

PL PL
22 Posted 24/07/2007 at 17:01:00

and he plays for salt lake blue socks!!

once a blue..

Brian Waring
23 Posted 24/07/2007 at 16:59:37

Jake,ha ha ha,give shandy andy,ha ha ha,a go up front.ha ha ha ha,hang on I’ve just fell of the stool!

PL PL
24 Posted 24/07/2007 at 17:05:53

Well hed be better than Paul Beattie wouldnt he?? Why not?

Wasnt henry once a winger???????????????????????????????????????????

Brian Waring
25 Posted 24/07/2007 at 17:10:03

Please,please,lets not start a thread about Adu.Remember the last time with Riquelme,it got a point where it got dizzy.

Paul Clays
26 Posted 24/07/2007 at 17:09:03

PL PL What is tyou obsession with the name Paul mate?

George
27 Posted 24/07/2007 at 17:11:40

Haha! PL PL could you enlighten me as to why you have felt the need to rechristen Johann Vogel and James Beattie with the forename ’Paul’.

Seamus Murphy
28 Posted 24/07/2007 at 17:16:40

PL good wind up with all the first names!! Ledley Baines!! Is his first name not Paul ;-)

Jack
29 Posted 24/07/2007 at 17:26:48

Don’t forget we could lose him to the african nations in the second half of season

sicky
30 Posted 24/07/2007 at 18:51:20

i know a paul baines.....

wes b
31 Posted 24/07/2007 at 19:10:32

what about paul pots, good set of lungs on the lad, plus looks in better shape then paul beattie, prob more polific aswell

on a serious note though..if moyes didnt want to risk nuge forget about adu...baines not with the mighty money bags sunderland on the case and looks like vogel missed his chance, smith would want to much in wages. bratten possibility untill one of the other 60 teams in the english league system get a whiff of him. hate to be pessimistic but lets hope we got some good kids coming through, that shiny new stadium aint gonna pay for itself you know ; )

The Real PL
32 Posted 25/07/2007 at 08:51:58

The name paul is synonnomous with all things great!!! I think everton are dead certs for relegation this year, they dont deserve the name paul to be linked with them in any way shape or form!! Paul fulham will get europe ahead of them and become paul fantastic!!!

Ross Trotter
33 Posted 25/07/2007 at 14:37:17

Methinks we should get Pienaar immediately drug tested and arrange for him not to ever bunk with Andy VDM if this comment is anything to go by:

"Everton is known for playing nice football and that was a big thing for me"

'Nice football'? perhaps thats South African for shite?

Ach just kidding, he's a great signing, look forward to seeing him in the blue. I do love how Moyes appears to just pluck these signings out of nowhere.

Anyone got any inclination as to who is filling our number 10 yet? Alan Smith appears to be Boro bound now.