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Why all the hand-wringing over our 'lack of transfer activity'?

It has been abundantly clear over the past few years that we are short of money, so why the surprise? Did you really believe that we were one of the top 20 richest clubs in Europe? Are you completely unaware of the concepts of spin and creative accountancy?

So it is clear to some of us that we do not have pots of money to spend on the expensive mediocrity on offer this summer. None of the players we have 'missed out' on have lost me any sleep. Getting £4M for Beattie would be a fabulous piece of business. As for Carsley, I'd rather he stayed another year or two, but if we part-ex him for a decent, younger player, I'd be happy. If, of course we actually replace these players...

I'm not a big fan of Moyes. To me he has proven himself to be at best, a good manager of ordinary players. In his defence, I think he has been let down by Kenwright and that we may never know how good he actually is. He has realised that if you are 'well-organised' you can get a top six finish. Many Evertonians seem to think that exciting football, cup runs and winning trophies are irrelevant, so what's the point in spending lots of money, especially if we don't have any? I think our transfer policy reflects our off-pitch management's style and the state of football today.

Of course, I'd prefer us to have forward-thinking, purposeful management with genuine ambition and business nous, but for the forseeable future, that's not going to happen.

In two weeks time, the season will have started. Last season, our squad went from 'the best in recent years', to one which was 'short on numbers'. In terms of senior professionals ready to play, the current squad is even shorter on numbers. The stadium debate has taken the focus away from this. The next two weeks will seriously judge the genuine ambition of our current management.
Paul Tran, Kendal     Posted 29/07/2007 at 13:36:28

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Erik Dols
1   Posted 29/07/2007 at 17:11:24

As far as I know, this "richest club"-list is based on turnover. Turnover has NOTHING to do with profit, and it is profit that gives you the extra money to buy players without going into debt.

With the Premier League being the domestic competition that realizes the biggest turnover in the world by far, and Everton being a side that’s on average in the top-ten of that competition last years, it is hardly surprising that our turnover is somewhere near that 20th spot. To my regret, it says nothing about our buying power. You don’t need turnover for that, which can easily be inflated by many things, you need hard cash that you don’t need for other things (like paying big wages, or saving for a new stadium, or...).

Just to show I agree with your first paragraph. It bugs me a little that people use that list to say we should go and buy loads of players. It just isn’t that simple.
Tom Dooley
2   Posted 29/07/2007 at 22:20:30

Erik, when you say "Turnover has NOTHING to do with profit" you are WRONG!

On a very basic level Profit=Turnover-Expenditure

I’d say turnover is 50% of what makes profit!
Dan Mckie
3   Posted 29/07/2007 at 23:24:04

Think what was meant by Erik,Tom,is that yes we may see Evertons turnover on a list that says it is in the top 20 highest but we dont know what the clubs expenditure is so we cant possibly know what the profit margin is! What should be brought in is the rule that is running in the football league where your wages can be no more than 60% of your yearly turnover,yet this would make the gulf between the top 4/5 clubs bigger but thats happening anyway!
Ben Chambers
4   Posted 30/07/2007 at 10:15:48

I have been informed that Alan Smith is staying in the Marriot in Town for the week while he completes his swith to us.

My friend is a DJ and was DJ’ing at Jermaine Pennants party on Sunday night and Alan Smith was there.

My friend asked him was he was down these ways and he told him that after 3pm today, he will be an Everton player.

I have made my friend swear on everyones life under the sun, that he’s not winding me up. He assured me 100% that he is telling the truth and he has heard it from the horses mouth.

Check the website after 3pm!!!

He also told me that Beattie will be leaving and its agreed!!

COYB!!!!
PL PL
5   Posted 30/07/2007 at 11:05:27

Jesus Paul Chambers have a word with yourself son! You’re mate us having a giraffe! Cant believe you posted that on all the topics
Ben Chambers
6   Posted 30/07/2007 at 11:10:23

PLPL - Aren’t you the one who deliberately gets peoples names wrong to piss people off.

I’ve seen you getting slated you it before. Its ignorant!

I have it on good authority, if he does then great, if he doesnt then dont worry, my mate will be getting a tongue lashing.

I hope he does though cos then you’ll look like a nob!
Instead of my mate!
PL PL
7   Posted 30/07/2007 at 11:43:10

Sorry, I’m not great with names! However, I’m not as gullible as ya!

I do hope I’m wrong


COYB
Peter Singer
8   Posted 30/07/2007 at 12:57:00

Partying with Pennant does not bode well.
Ger Johnson
9   Posted 30/07/2007 at 14:12:41

If we got Smith and Baines I’d be well happy with that! Any movement on the Vogel thing has anyone heard??
And apparently the Beattie to Blades thing could become unstuck due to his wage demands...lovely.
PL PL
10   Posted 30/07/2007 at 14:27:13

I’d be very surprised if Paul Beattie dropped down a division? Why would he! I think he’s quite comfortable on that bench but I reckon he’s upset to see Dickie Wright leave.

jag, pienear, voguel, Smith and Baines wouldn’t be a bad summer but?

It would be better than Koumas, Nugent, Paul Richardson!


Well done Moysie!
Ger Johnson
11   Posted 30/07/2007 at 14:41:49

Absolutely! I have to agree with you, I can’t see Biffa dropping a division easily, even if Robbo does reckon they’ll bounce right back up. He’ll hold out for Blackburn (who now probably don’t need him because of Santa Cruz’ arrival) but maybe if Moysie tells him in as polite a way as possible that he’s got slim to none chance of a game if he stays (does Moyes have the backbone for that??) and that might shift him?? Problem is, if Beattie stays put, that could scupper the Smith move...
Its the usual if’s and but’s scenario....
patty blue
12   Posted 30/07/2007 at 15:23:05

Hi Ben Chambers..... Well its after 3.00 p.m. and no news of Alan Smith. I wait with baited breath. Hope you were not the subject of a "wind up".
Brian Williams
13   Posted 30/07/2007 at 15:32:18

Ben Chambers....I’m gonna do your mate! and I don’t mean in a nice way either, and you need a good kickin’ too...for passin’ it on.
Derek Davis
14   Posted 30/07/2007 at 15:30:20

My name is Derek and I am 11 and a half and today i went to JJb sports and got Smith 10 on my new everton home strip.

Ben is he still signing for us, have you heard anything from your best friend. My dad is angry with me.
Ger Johnson
15   Posted 30/07/2007 at 15:35:38

We shouldn’t do anything rash lads, let’s wait till close of business today before we come round with the tyre irons....
Brian Williams
16   Posted 30/07/2007 at 15:39:56

F*ck waiting....I say we kill him !!!
Ben Chambers
17   Posted 30/07/2007 at 16:05:53

Get a grip you div’s!

And chances are, he’ll probably twat ye!

I am waiting with baited breath like you lot!

Such is his job, he is always in these type circles.

I have just phones him to give him loads, he assures me that Alan Smith told him himself! Why would he lie? coz he looks like a nob to me if he does.

And if i wasnt confident in it, i wouldnt pass it on and run the risk of getting egg on my face.

I have seen pictures on his phone from the night and he has pennants champions league shirt on!

I will give him the benefit of the doubt till the end of the week! If he is not signed on a 5yr deal then i’ll kick my mates ass for ya’s!

He is in the marriot for the week, im told!
PL PL
18   Posted 30/07/2007 at 16:12:28

You’ve lost all credibility. But im willing to give you until COB today. If he doesn’t sign today and the OS reports him having a medical all your comments will be instantaneously regarded as horseshite!
Brian Williams
19   Posted 30/07/2007 at 16:20:58

Oh...so there’s Smith while playing for Manure, wearing Pennants (a RS) champions league shirt.

You’re mate must thing you were born yesterday....Oh, and so do we *LOL*
Ben Chambers
20   Posted 30/07/2007 at 16:26:30

No , My mate had pennants shirt on!!! not smith!

so i know for a fact he was at the party!

If he’s lying then he’s a nob!

we’ll wait and see.
PL PL
21   Posted 30/07/2007 at 16:28:11

EM......
Brian Williams
22   Posted 30/07/2007 at 16:32:56

Ohhhh nooooooo.....So your mate had Pennants shirt on!!!!

So HE’S a f*ckin RS......

You knobhead...think about it !!!!
Brian Williams
23   Posted 30/07/2007 at 16:35:47

Sorry Ben....I was a bit hasty there. After all what possible reason could your mate (a RS??) have for wanting to wind you up???????

Don’t suppose he got a photo of Smith himslef did he??
Ben Chambers
24   Posted 30/07/2007 at 16:36:23

Brain - He’s a chelsea fan actually.

And less of the nob ed ya fuckin little beaut!

He hates the RS, it’ll make a good pic though!

If he signs then great, if not then i’ll never believe him again.

Simple.
Ben Chambers
25   Posted 30/07/2007 at 16:39:26

I am in the same boat as you’s!

I have both fingers crossed.

we’ll see!
Brian Williams
26   Posted 30/07/2007 at 16:39:58

Sorry Ben I see what you mean now.

I’m a Blue with an obvious errr dislike of the RS..but if I was at a disco I’d jump at the chance of wearing Pennants champions league shirt....what Evertonian wouldn’t *LOL*
Brian Williams
27   Posted 30/07/2007 at 17:06:55

According to the Marriot themselves there’s no A Smith staying at the hotel....
Ben Chambers
28   Posted 30/07/2007 at 17:18:35

I know Brian, I tried that one myself.

But lets be honest..... there is no way that that the hotel staff will not know who he is, and i’d imagine journalists have been ringing too etc.

As i siad, there is no reason my mate would lie about this, not to me.... its not some stranger. And he’s pick a better player to wind me up over.

He spoke to him in person so we will see.

I hope so but if not, i will stand correct and pass on all your abuse to my mate!

At least its give us something to discuss instead on the fuckin stadium move and people slagging of the board!!!!
Brian Williams
29   Posted 30/07/2007 at 17:21:37

I know exactly what you mean mate. It’s a sad state of affairs that we as Blues are SO desperate for a little bit of what some would say is good news.....

I personally think that if we got him and got rid of Beattie at a cost difference of two mill it’d be good business.

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