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Gonzalez? Bad Joke...
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I have posted comments before on this website asking for positivity amongst us fans but I have completley and utterly lost all faith and will to stand up for anyone running our club. The latest crap to be fed to the Echo is that we have made a £10 million bid for Lucho Gonzalez.
Previous "leaked stories" to soften the fans up have been tried and failed, ie. Smith, Barton etc, yet the club still think that giving us a story like this will keep us happy and think we're actually moving forward. NO CHANCE. Why on earth would Gonzalez, an Argentine international, sign for us given our "ambition"? Where are we getting £10 million from all of a sudden?? Is Beattie's sale more than we thought???
Is Gonzalez a better bet than Fernandes who we were told was too expensive at £8 million, even though Manny has Premiership experience and has proven to be a success with us. Why why why are we fed such garbage? I'm usually mild mannered and patient with our transfer dealing but my blood is boiling. We are a joke, plain and simple.
All the rubbish about moving our club forward with Uefa Cup football, not making the same mistakes as we did when we got Champions League is coming back to haunt us again. All summer the Echo told us that Alan Smith's favoured move was Goodison, so why is he a Barcode?? No bid? Not enough wages? But we can spend £10M on Gonzalez cos he'd obviously only want £10k a week. I was going to go to Selhurst today but now I'm going to go shopping with my girlfriend instead, at least she's honest with me about how much she has to spend.
Moysey, my sympathies
Niall Clinton, Posted 04/08/2007 at 12:59:42
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Matt C
2 Posted 04/08/2007 at 14:31:34
2 Posted 04/08/2007 at 14:31:34
It’s all getting very desperate isn’t it? I agree with your post BTW.
Check the line up for todays game vs Palace. We are fielding 11 players and 5 subs. At first I thought it was a 5 sub restriction but have just noticed Palace have 8. We are BADLY short on numbers. Notable absentees are Osman, VDM, Neville & McFadden - what’s up with them?
We need a replacement striker for Beattie ASAP, a left back and at least two midfielders.
Check the line up for todays game vs Palace. We are fielding 11 players and 5 subs. At first I thought it was a 5 sub restriction but have just noticed Palace have 8. We are BADLY short on numbers. Notable absentees are Osman, VDM, Neville & McFadden - what’s up with them?
We need a replacement striker for Beattie ASAP, a left back and at least two midfielders.
Allan
3 Posted 04/08/2007 at 14:37:19
3 Posted 04/08/2007 at 14:37:19
Just read on the BBC site that Newcastle have agreed a fee with Villareal for Jose Enrique, who is a left sided full-back so that could be good news for us re Baines.
Karl Jones
4 Posted 04/08/2007 at 14:32:42
4 Posted 04/08/2007 at 14:32:42
At the risk of sounding cynical, Everton have done this before on quite a few occasions when we have no chance of signing someone. Remember Alan Shearer (matching bids of Man Utd and Newcastle)?
More recently Michael Owen who was always going to go to Newcastle. Surely though, a striker now becomes a priority with only McFadden, Johnson and Anichebe to carry us through the season.
If this bid is true, the fans are yet again being taken for a ride.
More recently Michael Owen who was always going to go to Newcastle. Surely though, a striker now becomes a priority with only McFadden, Johnson and Anichebe to carry us through the season.
If this bid is true, the fans are yet again being taken for a ride.
Rikkie Moore
5 Posted 04/08/2007 at 14:34:48
5 Posted 04/08/2007 at 14:34:48
Even when david Moyes is about no deals are ever done anyway....
This is really starting to annoy me to the point that i may not even watch the toffees this season.(maybe that is going a bit far)
Look at the season we qualified for the champions league we made no decent signings then the ones we did make didn’t really work so he’s gotta do somthing has’nt he?
PLEASE SAY YES
This is really starting to annoy me to the point that i may not even watch the toffees this season.(maybe that is going a bit far)
Look at the season we qualified for the champions league we made no decent signings then the ones we did make didn’t really work so he’s gotta do somthing has’nt he?
PLEASE SAY YES
Dave Turner
6 Posted 04/08/2007 at 14:00:13
6 Posted 04/08/2007 at 14:00:13
This is why I cannot stand football at this time of year. One day we struggle to find money to buy anyone. Couple of days later, we suddenly have what must be £16mil! If you believe Baines is coming in and that we are on the brink of Mr Gonzalez.
My first reaction to reading that was, one word. Fernandes. If we have that money, can we bring him back instead? I must admit, all summer, I have been on the old YouTube, watching Fernandez and thinking what might have been. I have now added Gonzalez to that list and I must say, I started dreaming. Dreaming of these type of players gracing the Goodison pitch. Flowing exciting football, goals that you always remember, special special moments...
Then I woke up, reality hits, we don't have two pennies to rub together, reality strikes, no Gonzalez, if you look at it with a tad of realism... Surely?!?
I can't always help but feel a bit let down. That is not the club's fault directly, they don't make journalists start this rubbish. I am an Evertonian, I have learn't not to get carried away with rumours, I have many a broken dream already... At least I thought I had...
Brian Waring
7 Posted 04/08/2007 at 14:37:46
7 Posted 04/08/2007 at 14:37:46
I’m with you Niall.A world class argentine international,and for £10m.Where have we got the money? small matter of wages,I can see him wanting a good wedge each week.And why would he want to play for us,when he could probalby have his choice of clubs?I am also sceptical,has this been some kind of false leak to get the fans buzzing?Thing is though,according to his agent,he is going to sign for us in the next couple of days.Sometimes you just never know.
Anthony Dilworth
8 Posted 04/08/2007 at 14:44:21
8 Posted 04/08/2007 at 14:44:21
If Everton are prepared to spend money like $10m on this fella, it begs the question "Was Fernandes never really going to be anything more than just a loan signing?"
Roy Harvey
9 Posted 04/08/2007 at 14:56:40
9 Posted 04/08/2007 at 14:56:40
Gonzalez? I’ll believe it when i see him wearing the shirt. Unfortunatley it’s that time of year when "journalists" like to play a game.Try it at home. Take ten internationally known players and write their names on pieces of paper. Place in a hat. Now repeat the first step replacing known players for football clubs. Repeat once more using sums of money.Shuffle...shuffle..Luis Gonzalez...Everton...£10m. Submit to sports editor and go down the pub.
Shaka
10 Posted 04/08/2007 at 15:22:49
10 Posted 04/08/2007 at 15:22:49
I’ll believe it when i see him being paraded at GP. This is prob another smoke screen.
John Evans
11 Posted 04/08/2007 at 15:33:27
11 Posted 04/08/2007 at 15:33:27
The Everton way!!! A load of crap! end of..
colin
12 Posted 04/08/2007 at 15:35:15
12 Posted 04/08/2007 at 15:35:15
Ah! the art of propaganda,wonderful is it not?
Joseph Goebels is alive and well,and runs a team in the english premier league!
Joseph Goebels is alive and well,and runs a team in the english premier league!
Roy Harvey
13 Posted 04/08/2007 at 15:59:21
13 Posted 04/08/2007 at 15:59:21
Joseph Goebels alive and well? Glad to hear it..if we don’t get those players in he may have to get his boots on!!!
Marty B
14 Posted 04/08/2007 at 16:02:39
14 Posted 04/08/2007 at 16:02:39
Just heard a rumour that Moyes isn’t on compassionate leave,he’s left/been sacked because this yank Robert Earl has basically taken over and has decided at long last to start flexing his muscles and Davey boy was still in a strop about not getting his shiny new Dinky car Rolls Royce so he got told too fuck off and sort his life out!
Probably has the same validity as the Gonzales(who is he anyway?) rumour but then again everybody believes the one about the 2nd gunman on the grassy knol!!
By the way what happened to this French wonderkid we’ve had on Trial ?
Probably has the same validity as the Gonzales(who is he anyway?) rumour but then again everybody believes the one about the 2nd gunman on the grassy knol!!
By the way what happened to this French wonderkid we’ve had on Trial ?
Allan
15 Posted 04/08/2007 at 16:14:00
15 Posted 04/08/2007 at 16:14:00
Actually he’s at the Palace game, Im watching it now, so ner ner ne ne nerr!
Marty B
16 Posted 04/08/2007 at 16:18:31
16 Posted 04/08/2007 at 16:18:31
Who’s at the Palace game Moyes ? Gonzales ? Baines? Elvis ?
And what’s the score ?
And what’s the score ?
Philly B
17 Posted 04/08/2007 at 16:19:44
17 Posted 04/08/2007 at 16:19:44
Smith went to Newcastle because he has more faith in him than moyes to take his career forward. Newcastle have just signed Jose Enrique, finalising dragutinovic but are still pursuing baines as the latter can play in either central or the left side of defence, enrique is being brough in as conver for the first team and a prospect for the future, allardyce wants baines 1.for the future 2.he thinks he can giv some extra cover not only for the lft-back position but also for the ever injured duff, and never has someone had a more appropriate name. i’d give up on baines and concentrate on keeping hold on your youth, its being touted benitez wants anichebe and arteta on the cheap.
Mart B
18 Posted 04/08/2007 at 16:26:20
18 Posted 04/08/2007 at 16:26:20
Yo Philly B (no relation) u a redshite by any chance ?
Benitez wouldn’t buy either of those because they wouldn’t sign for him he’s tried once before and got told to do one.
If you consider £35 mil for the pair cheap then you must be lord lucan!!
Benitez wouldn’t buy either of those because they wouldn’t sign for him he’s tried once before and got told to do one.
If you consider £35 mil for the pair cheap then you must be lord lucan!!
Dutch Schaffaer
19 Posted 04/08/2007 at 16:44:22
19 Posted 04/08/2007 at 16:44:22
All summer there’s been moaning because of the lack of transfer activity and now it appears as though Moyes is bidding for a £11 million World Class player and still there are moans.
Just imagine if Everton fielded a team with Jagielka, Pienaar, Baines and Gonzalez on the opening day, that would be the best summer transfer season ever.
There really is no pleasing some people.
Just imagine if Everton fielded a team with Jagielka, Pienaar, Baines and Gonzalez on the opening day, that would be the best summer transfer season ever.
There really is no pleasing some people.
Jeremy Benson
20 Posted 04/08/2007 at 16:51:10
20 Posted 04/08/2007 at 16:51:10
Oh come on Dutch, spare me. There are moans because we arent as naive.
If we had 10 million, we would have bought manny, smith, baines etc.
Seriously, grow up.
If we had 10 million, we would have bought manny, smith, baines etc.
Seriously, grow up.
George Meakin
21 Posted 04/08/2007 at 17:03:10
21 Posted 04/08/2007 at 17:03:10
Been doing the rounds of bars in Porto since mid morning and have had it confirmed that Everton ’only just missed out’ on Gonzales.
They’ve now turned their attention to Manuel Aguas,a 18 year old midfielder who’s available to go on out on loan.Never heard of him-and I live here!
They’ve now turned their attention to Manuel Aguas,a 18 year old midfielder who’s available to go on out on loan.Never heard of him-and I live here!
Allan
22 Posted 04/08/2007 at 17:10:39
22 Posted 04/08/2007 at 17:10:39
Like I keep saying, my Nans still out of contract...
Dutch Schaffaer
23 Posted 04/08/2007 at 17:02:51
23 Posted 04/08/2007 at 17:02:51
Jeremy Benson, maybe just maybe Moyes didn’t want Smith, Koumas, Manny or Nugent. Maybe he decided rather then pay-over-the-odds for very average players he was saving the money to make a mega-bid for a genuine world class player.
I always found it very odd, every Premiership team has all this money but apparently not Everton, something didn’t compute there.
Now it looks like Everton have actually got the money but Moyes, like he promised, is making sure that its not wasted.
Of course the idea that the money is there and the manager is just being extra careful to spend it wisely is to simple for some fans.
Far easier to assume that the money has been pocketed by Kenwright and the board. Its much more exciting to dream up some giant scam in which Everton have been screwed.
Ask yourself this, whats more likely, the money has been stolen by the board or that the money is there ready and waiting for the always careful Moyes to decide which players will be most beneficial to Everton?
If we start the season with Jagielka, Pienaar, Vogel, Baines and Gonzalez will some of you be big enough to offer Moyes/Kenwright an apology?
I always found it very odd, every Premiership team has all this money but apparently not Everton, something didn’t compute there.
Now it looks like Everton have actually got the money but Moyes, like he promised, is making sure that its not wasted.
Of course the idea that the money is there and the manager is just being extra careful to spend it wisely is to simple for some fans.
Far easier to assume that the money has been pocketed by Kenwright and the board. Its much more exciting to dream up some giant scam in which Everton have been screwed.
Ask yourself this, whats more likely, the money has been stolen by the board or that the money is there ready and waiting for the always careful Moyes to decide which players will be most beneficial to Everton?
If we start the season with Jagielka, Pienaar, Vogel, Baines and Gonzalez will some of you be big enough to offer Moyes/Kenwright an apology?
Ben Brown
24 Posted 04/08/2007 at 17:11:53
24 Posted 04/08/2007 at 17:11:53
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/e/everton/6931351.stm
Can’t help but get a little bit excited, can you?
Can’t help but get a little bit excited, can you?
Allan
25 Posted 04/08/2007 at 17:17:29
25 Posted 04/08/2007 at 17:17:29
A little bit yeah, but seriously, its hard to believe he’ll come to us when Valencia, Lyon and Real Madrid are reportedly after him eh?
Brian Waring
26 Posted 04/08/2007 at 17:14:37
26 Posted 04/08/2007 at 17:14:37
Problem is Dutch,we have been here before.Owen,Shearer.With Kenwright knowing full well, we never had a chance of getting either.They were just token bids to try and fool the fans into thinking we had the cash.But,as someone has already said,we are wise to all this shit now,Dutch.Also,concerning Baines.We have known for a while now that Wigan wanted £6m.So,if we have money why didn’t we just offer the money,and had him signed up?
mark-chester
27 Posted 04/08/2007 at 17:28:00
27 Posted 04/08/2007 at 17:28:00
The Gonzalez story is nothing but crap!!!! Same little titbits of false stories let out by the club to try and calm us down.
Same old shit every summer, the fact remains we are 1/2 injuries from a very bad season when you consider how many other teams have improved their squads with quality.
We have very little money and had to wait for beattie to get Baines (if we do get him), and i cannot sea any more signings after Baines (again if we get him).
Same old shit every summer, the fact remains we are 1/2 injuries from a very bad season when you consider how many other teams have improved their squads with quality.
We have very little money and had to wait for beattie to get Baines (if we do get him), and i cannot sea any more signings after Baines (again if we get him).
The Corrector
28 Posted 04/08/2007 at 17:58:19
28 Posted 04/08/2007 at 17:58:19
Actually the Echo never leaked the story at all.
The Daily Mail and The Daily Express are the ones who first ran with it this morning, in almost full page articles.
The club haven’t commented.
Porto officials have confirmed our interest and Gonzales agent confirmed our interest on 5 Live.
It would be nice if people got their facts straight before doing their usual rants.
The Daily Mail and The Daily Express are the ones who first ran with it this morning, in almost full page articles.
The club haven’t commented.
Porto officials have confirmed our interest and Gonzales agent confirmed our interest on 5 Live.
It would be nice if people got their facts straight before doing their usual rants.
Tim Banks
29 Posted 04/08/2007 at 18:38:02
29 Posted 04/08/2007 at 18:38:02
I tend to agree with what Dutch says a lot of the time. Also, the reason we didn’t just offer Wigan £6m straight away is that Moyes, Kenwright and Wyness are probably trying to get the right price for Everton, and not for Wigan.
They really are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. The moment Baines/Gonzalez/anyone at all signs, all of the moaners on here will be on here complaining that we’ve paid over the odds.
Jesus wept.
They really are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. The moment Baines/Gonzalez/anyone at all signs, all of the moaners on here will be on here complaining that we’ve paid over the odds.
Jesus wept.
Carl Williamson
30 Posted 04/08/2007 at 18:57:13
30 Posted 04/08/2007 at 18:57:13
Christ and i thought i was negative !!!
The bid has been made, yes we probably wont sign him but i dont think its a bluff...if they accept it and then we cant stump up the money moyes and kenwright will be left looking like complete muppets to everyone...i believe the money is there but i dont believe gonzalez will sign for us. It would be an amazing signing if we pulled it off, his game is perfectley suited to the premiership, he has a phenomenal work rate, likes to get stuck in and has great skill and an absolute BULLET of a shot.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FYCV4fUK8AU
you cant help but get a little excited after seeing something like that
The bid has been made, yes we probably wont sign him but i dont think its a bluff...if they accept it and then we cant stump up the money moyes and kenwright will be left looking like complete muppets to everyone...i believe the money is there but i dont believe gonzalez will sign for us. It would be an amazing signing if we pulled it off, his game is perfectley suited to the premiership, he has a phenomenal work rate, likes to get stuck in and has great skill and an absolute BULLET of a shot.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FYCV4fUK8AU
you cant help but get a little excited after seeing something like that
lue glover
31 Posted 04/08/2007 at 19:06:27
31 Posted 04/08/2007 at 19:06:27
Tim, Dutch, if we sign Bains, Gonzalez and Vogel I WILL apologise to anyone who will listen for being a bit cynical about the way things are going at the moment. I really WANT to be wrong about BK but we’ve been here before havent we, so forgive me (and others) for being a bit twitchy. There has to come a time when we will have to pay the going rate for players and pay the going rate for their wages. Getting the right price for Everton is all well and good as long as the result is a positive one and davey gets his man. I agree that maybe DM just didnt want Nugent etc but if he REALLY wants to get someone in his team, the board are going to have to accept that they will have to pay the price. I bought my house for £13k,(long time ago mind), doesnt mean I can buy one now for that price, I have to pay the market value or go and live in a cardboard box somewhere. Last season bought us AJ for £8 million, he would cost at least £12mill this season but he’s still the same player and mine is still the same house. It’s not the likes of us who put a price on a player, it’s the market and the market is well and truly overinflated. Sad but true. In fact, really really sad if you’re trying to get on the housing ladder but I digress into the real world, apologies!
John Holmes
32 Posted 04/08/2007 at 19:48:45
32 Posted 04/08/2007 at 19:48:45
I admit this stories come somewhere out of the blue but this is my ’plausible’ explanation.
Moyes started to summer intending to buy the likes of Koumas, Richardson, Nugent etc for fees of around £3m and expected to add 5 or 6 players in this way and then add on a couple of loans/free transfers. As it happened the £3m player appears to have become a thing of the past. Moyes instead decided to cut his losses and when he became aware that Gonzalez was interested in a Premiership move he went after him with the sizeable remaining transfer budget.
Given that we’ve brought in £5m and spent just £4m as of yet. The signings of Baines and Gonzalez would mean we had spent approximately (allowing for spread payments and add-ons) a total of £15m. This is roughly what many expected our transfer budget to be at the start of the summer
Why Moyes declined to persue Fernandes is anybody’s guess. Maybe he thinks Gonzalez is better, maybe the third-party owner was obstructive, maybe he simply feels Manny can’t stand the pace and work rate of the Premiership.
I’m not saying that I 100% believe the Gonzalez story... but I’d hope many would admit that the above explanation makes more sense than allegations of us having a transfer budget of approximately £5m.
Moyes started to summer intending to buy the likes of Koumas, Richardson, Nugent etc for fees of around £3m and expected to add 5 or 6 players in this way and then add on a couple of loans/free transfers. As it happened the £3m player appears to have become a thing of the past. Moyes instead decided to cut his losses and when he became aware that Gonzalez was interested in a Premiership move he went after him with the sizeable remaining transfer budget.
Given that we’ve brought in £5m and spent just £4m as of yet. The signings of Baines and Gonzalez would mean we had spent approximately (allowing for spread payments and add-ons) a total of £15m. This is roughly what many expected our transfer budget to be at the start of the summer
Why Moyes declined to persue Fernandes is anybody’s guess. Maybe he thinks Gonzalez is better, maybe the third-party owner was obstructive, maybe he simply feels Manny can’t stand the pace and work rate of the Premiership.
I’m not saying that I 100% believe the Gonzalez story... but I’d hope many would admit that the above explanation makes more sense than allegations of us having a transfer budget of approximately £5m.
Brian Waring
33 Posted 04/08/2007 at 20:00:37
33 Posted 04/08/2007 at 20:00:37
I’ll tell you what will happen John.Gonzalez will join Madrid or Juventus.And then Kenwright will come out with the big fanfare,about how close we were to getting him,and how he done it the everton way.When all along he knew there was no fucking chance he was going to join us.Remember Michael Owen?
aza kehoe
34 Posted 04/08/2007 at 20:11:50
34 Posted 04/08/2007 at 20:11:50
I cant believeall this shit, if moyesy is planning on signing gonzales, and baines, and wants to make pienaar permanent that maeans he would have spent about £25m this year on jags, pienaar, baines and gonzales.
This isonce again a poor attempt at trying to bluff us evertonians.
we dont have that money, and if we did, ive only got to mention one name ’FERNANDES’ ’FERNANDES’ ’FERNANDES’ ’FERNANDES’ ’FERNANDES’ ’FERNANDES’ ’FERNANDES’ ’FERNANDES’
This isonce again a poor attempt at trying to bluff us evertonians.
we dont have that money, and if we did, ive only got to mention one name ’FERNANDES’ ’FERNANDES’ ’FERNANDES’ ’FERNANDES’ ’FERNANDES’ ’FERNANDES’ ’FERNANDES’ ’FERNANDES’
Gav Jones
35 Posted 04/08/2007 at 20:37:54
35 Posted 04/08/2007 at 20:37:54
If we don’t get Gonzalez (or should that be when) there will be no excuse for us not then spending on Fernandes. If we’re bidding for him Moyes obviously thinks we need another midfielder, and from what I’ve seen of and heard of Gonzalez they’re relatively similar. If the BBC is to believed then we’ve got some money to spend if Moyes thinks the player is worth it, regardless of whatever tight-arsed installment package the money goes in.
I generally have a lot of faith in Moyes and I’m not naive enough to think I have the solution to Everton’s problems. Except in this case - how f*cking stupid do you have to be to not see that Fernandes would be brilliant for us, and for only 3million more than Kieran f*cking Richardson?
Then there is the striker issue, which is more important than Baines in my view, despite how much I rate the lad when you consider Lescott and Neville can play there as well (anything to get Neville out of midfield). Good luck to Moyes finding a decent forward for a realistic price. Give Big Dunc a call.
I generally have a lot of faith in Moyes and I’m not naive enough to think I have the solution to Everton’s problems. Except in this case - how f*cking stupid do you have to be to not see that Fernandes would be brilliant for us, and for only 3million more than Kieran f*cking Richardson?
Then there is the striker issue, which is more important than Baines in my view, despite how much I rate the lad when you consider Lescott and Neville can play there as well (anything to get Neville out of midfield). Good luck to Moyes finding a decent forward for a realistic price. Give Big Dunc a call.
James Bicknell
36 Posted 04/08/2007 at 21:36:02
36 Posted 04/08/2007 at 21:36:02
Ok well all of you might want to eat your words. gonzalez’s agent has just said that lucho wants a move to the premiership and he is hopeful of a deal going through within the next 2-3 days.
if we have the money the deal is looking quite possible.
if we have the money the deal is looking quite possible.
Anthony Newell
37 Posted 04/08/2007 at 21:34:42
37 Posted 04/08/2007 at 21:34:42
After Beattie, Wright and Kroldrup I seriously cannot believe that Moyes would put his arse on the line and gamble £10 million on one player. If he does then I’ll be very surprised, even more so if he gets signed. Maybe it’s diversionary tactics to get Newcastle interested so they will piss off away from Baines or maybe it’s the same old guff from the club - we bid on Owen, Shearer etc etc. Can’t help but think that the risk of spending this sort of money would be better spread out over a few players, Fernandes included
Tony Miller
38 Posted 04/08/2007 at 21:24:45
38 Posted 04/08/2007 at 21:24:45
Interesting day on the rumour front regards Baines and Gonzalez. It will be a suprise if we sign both however if we do I believe we will have had a good close season. By getting rid of our lower level squad players and exchanging them for players who could quite possibly be in the starting eleven. This is something that all of us would hope for rather than an exchange of like for like.
I am still doubtful and until I see a picture on the OS with them holding a scarf over their heads remain so.
These signings would be better than I would have expected at the start of the window. Of the links we have with players in the press,I have not on one occassion been exited. I thought Smith would have been an imnprovement on Beatie but who wouldn’t. However Nugent, Richardson and Koumas are in my opinion top class cgampionship players average at best premiership. I know we are supposed to be desperate for new blood but I am not that desperate. Who would honestly look at these players and say they could improve our first team,they would be backup at most and at ridiculous prices.Richardson and Koumas togethetr would be 11 million the same as for this lad Gonzalez.One player rather than two one wage rather than two but. A player who would raise the profile of the club and improve the first team.
Others have banged the drum for Manny, however I was not that impressed except for the odd cameo such as against Arsenal. Maybe just maybe Moye’s feels the same and just does not want him after seeing him training and playing. Moye’s likes hard work Arteta has skill but also works hard, could Manny do the same maybe not. It would apear that this Gonzalez has the skill and works as well so fits the bill.
If at the end of the day we do sign tham great, if not I will be as sick as a pig unless equal quality arrives. Here’s hoping that things do happen in the next 27 days and that it takes this club forward to were we belive we belong.
I am still doubtful and until I see a picture on the OS with them holding a scarf over their heads remain so.
These signings would be better than I would have expected at the start of the window. Of the links we have with players in the press,I have not on one occassion been exited. I thought Smith would have been an imnprovement on Beatie but who wouldn’t. However Nugent, Richardson and Koumas are in my opinion top class cgampionship players average at best premiership. I know we are supposed to be desperate for new blood but I am not that desperate. Who would honestly look at these players and say they could improve our first team,they would be backup at most and at ridiculous prices.Richardson and Koumas togethetr would be 11 million the same as for this lad Gonzalez.One player rather than two one wage rather than two but. A player who would raise the profile of the club and improve the first team.
Others have banged the drum for Manny, however I was not that impressed except for the odd cameo such as against Arsenal. Maybe just maybe Moye’s feels the same and just does not want him after seeing him training and playing. Moye’s likes hard work Arteta has skill but also works hard, could Manny do the same maybe not. It would apear that this Gonzalez has the skill and works as well so fits the bill.
If at the end of the day we do sign tham great, if not I will be as sick as a pig unless equal quality arrives. Here’s hoping that things do happen in the next 27 days and that it takes this club forward to were we belive we belong.
Anthony Newell
39 Posted 04/08/2007 at 21:47:16
39 Posted 04/08/2007 at 21:47:16
Nobody wants the club to bring in rubbish for the sake of it but at this juncture we are going into a new season with a squad that is not big enough or contains enough quality to sustain efforts home and abroad. The Championship manager addicts out there will tell you that if you go into a new season on this basis, if you pick up a few injuries the side is freddy fucked and everything goes pear shaped - you start to get spankings off the likes of shit sides like Blackburn and Man City. In that sense it is very true to life as far as Everton is concerned
roy coyne
40 Posted 04/08/2007 at 21:56:52
40 Posted 04/08/2007 at 21:56:52
The way we get treated by the board is crinimal the think we are stupid mind you we did buy our season tickets KENWRIGHT OUT
Patrick Connors
41 Posted 04/08/2007 at 22:04:40
41 Posted 04/08/2007 at 22:04:40
Just read that Gonzalz has the same complex ownership situation as his fellow Argentinians - Tevez and Mascherano and that he is part owned by MSI. Also his buy out Clause is 25 million Euros and he had talks with Real Madrid yesterday - we might as well be placing a £4million bid for Gerrard!
Tony Miller
42 Posted 04/08/2007 at 21:56:38
42 Posted 04/08/2007 at 21:56:38
With regards to numbers and the CM reference I have to agree to a point. But with CM when it all goes tits up you end game and start again.
In this world however when it goes tits up you end up as Leeds Utd.
We do need extra bodies however it would appear that we are going to have HOPEFULLY the same number of players as last year. The difference being one is not Italian and injured all season, one is not Scottish allegedly plays in the same position as the Italian and was injured all last season. One is not a goal keeper who apparently has myopia. Whilst finally one is not a striker who to be honest probably didn’t score any passed the said keeper in training
So IF the signings happen we have kept the same numbers however the quality has improved. Steady if not massive progress but progress none the less.
In this world however when it goes tits up you end up as Leeds Utd.
We do need extra bodies however it would appear that we are going to have HOPEFULLY the same number of players as last year. The difference being one is not Italian and injured all season, one is not Scottish allegedly plays in the same position as the Italian and was injured all last season. One is not a goal keeper who apparently has myopia. Whilst finally one is not a striker who to be honest probably didn’t score any passed the said keeper in training
So IF the signings happen we have kept the same numbers however the quality has improved. Steady if not massive progress but progress none the less.
Henry Chapman
43 Posted 04/08/2007 at 22:31:59
43 Posted 04/08/2007 at 22:31:59
Haha, why the hell would he come to Everton when he has the choice of Champions League football with Lyon, Valencia and Real Madrid. Its just another token bid from Kenwright and co trying to make the fans think we are actually trying to compete in the transfer market. Anyone remember Kuyt, Owen, Shearer etc ? Im suprised Moyes lets Kenwright pull this kind of bullshit, it only makes Moyes look bad as well, or does it ? this has happened a few times and alot of Everton fans seem to not be clever enough to work out when they are being made fools off.
Anthony Newell
44 Posted 04/08/2007 at 22:32:33
44 Posted 04/08/2007 at 22:32:33
And IF it happens Tony, we’ll have more games to play with the same numbers, more risk of injuries, more players getting nackared. The quality we do have will either have to be ’diluted’ over more games or rested for less important ones which begs the question whats the fucking point in qualifying for Europe if your not going to build on the opportunity?. I fucking wish somebody would take over the club, end Kenwright, Wyness, Moyes and start again
DavidC
45 Posted 04/08/2007 at 23:01:22
45 Posted 04/08/2007 at 23:01:22
I recently plyed a charity match at goodison and got chatting to a few of the staff there. Fernandes was not the right type of person off the pitch, upset a few senior players and disrespectful to the acadamy boys. THATS WHY WE DONT WANT HIM. sometimes people there is more to signings than there performance on the pitch!
John Walsh
46 Posted 04/08/2007 at 23:43:47
46 Posted 04/08/2007 at 23:43:47
yeh i heard rumors of him being abit of a twat, would like some details as to what he did that was so twatish though !!
Another reason why Gonzalez is a good "pretend" transfer target is because even if he does decide to come to goodison the transfer will buckle due to the fact he is signed up to MSI and we would have to go through all the bullshit that is associated with multiple owners...a perfect reason for everton to pull out of the deal !!!
Another reason why Gonzalez is a good "pretend" transfer target is because even if he does decide to come to goodison the transfer will buckle due to the fact he is signed up to MSI and we would have to go through all the bullshit that is associated with multiple owners...a perfect reason for everton to pull out of the deal !!!
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1 Posted 04/08/2007 at 14:27:45