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Fernandes and Yakubu?
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I know I'm just a naive bastard grasping for straws at this point, but if what is on the Daily Mail website were true...
Well, it would confirm my long held suspicion that Everton FC is NOT broke, but MISERLY. They'll drive you crazy by NOT spending but when they decide they really want something, they'll find a way to make it happen. Oh please, let my straw grasping be worth it...
Rob Vera, Posted 07/08/2007 at 22:51:46
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Lyndon
If the story is even remotely true, I suspect it'll be money borrowed against future Sky revenue — you can't be miserly with money you don't have.
Dave Reiner
1 Posted 07/08/2007 at 23:02:38
1 Posted 07/08/2007 at 23:02:38
I thought Fernandes was going to cost almost twice that amount?
Steve S
2 Posted 07/08/2007 at 23:03:22
2 Posted 07/08/2007 at 23:03:22
Mate, I read that too and I think they got their prices the wrong way round! Ha ha ha
Anthony Newell
3 Posted 07/08/2007 at 23:07:08
3 Posted 07/08/2007 at 23:07:08
That would do very nicely indeed though still think Mido would be a good buy
Harvey
4 Posted 07/08/2007 at 23:04:51
4 Posted 07/08/2007 at 23:04:51
I really can’t believe that anyone would take any of the "headlines" in the rags seriously.
Where is this information based upon? It doesn’t even make sense really...Yakubu cost Boro 7.5mn a few years ago, has hardly broken any scoring records since then (Viduka was more potent than him) and is valued at 10mn. Fernandes was quoted between 8mn and 12mn, depending on who was counting and the currency being used...and now we’re bidding 6mn??? How does that work?
Really, the journalists are no more in the know than the rumour mill posters.
Having said that, my sisters friend’s mother’s son works at Goodison and swears that Riquelme was there today, together with Lucho and Tevez, discussing terms with Moyes and Kenwright.
Apparently, they like the fact that Arteta is at the club and speaks good Spanish.
Where is this information based upon? It doesn’t even make sense really...Yakubu cost Boro 7.5mn a few years ago, has hardly broken any scoring records since then (Viduka was more potent than him) and is valued at 10mn. Fernandes was quoted between 8mn and 12mn, depending on who was counting and the currency being used...and now we’re bidding 6mn??? How does that work?
Really, the journalists are no more in the know than the rumour mill posters.
Having said that, my sisters friend’s mother’s son works at Goodison and swears that Riquelme was there today, together with Lucho and Tevez, discussing terms with Moyes and Kenwright.
Apparently, they like the fact that Arteta is at the club and speaks good Spanish.
Andrew McDonnell
5 Posted 07/08/2007 at 23:06:53
5 Posted 07/08/2007 at 23:06:53
I believe Fernandes has been generally (I suspect some hacks pull figures out of the air, and there have certainly been discrepancies in the figures) reported as being available at 12 million EUROS, which while more than £6m is not so far from it as to be ridiculous, considering how deals are structured these days (intial payments, rising to etc, etc.)
I don’t tend to believe the Daily Mail in general but in football terms they seem no less reliable than most tabloids. I wouldn’t be amazed if either bid materialised ( I seem to remember us being linked with the Yak before we bought Beattie ), but whether they would actually sign is a matter of conjecture.
It seems worth recalling that at the end of Arteta’s loan deal there was much umming and ahing and talk of other clubs signing him before Moyes finally went back to seal the deal.
We all love this fantasy manager stuff, no matter what we say, but my gut gut feeling says Davey’s got one more trick up his sleeve....
I don’t tend to believe the Daily Mail in general but in football terms they seem no less reliable than most tabloids. I wouldn’t be amazed if either bid materialised ( I seem to remember us being linked with the Yak before we bought Beattie ), but whether they would actually sign is a matter of conjecture.
It seems worth recalling that at the end of Arteta’s loan deal there was much umming and ahing and talk of other clubs signing him before Moyes finally went back to seal the deal.
We all love this fantasy manager stuff, no matter what we say, but my gut gut feeling says Davey’s got one more trick up his sleeve....
Dan Mckie
6 Posted 07/08/2007 at 23:15:40
6 Posted 07/08/2007 at 23:15:40
Would love it if this were true but not sure on the Daily Mails credibiltiy especially with lines like "Yakubu at least 10 million with his old club Man City also in the frame" Eh! When did Yakubu play for Man City??? As for Fernandes,what happened to 12 million? This would be more like panic selling by Benfica rather than panic buying!
David Barks
7 Posted 07/08/2007 at 23:12:14
7 Posted 07/08/2007 at 23:12:14
Don’t care about Yakubu, just want Fernandes. That said, I wouldn’t be too upset to see Yakubu accompany Manny through the doors of Goodison Park. I can see one happening, but not both. The one reason I think there might be something to the Fernandes offer is Arteta. Arteta seemed to love playing next to Fernandes last season, he always had a smile on his face and seemed to really enjoy having that other quality player who was skillful on the ball playing with him in the midfield. But while we are in dream land, how good of a side would that make us having Yakubu and Fernandes!!?? A midfield of Arteta, Fernandes, Cahill, Pienaar!!!!
Dan Mckie
8 Posted 07/08/2007 at 23:20:27
8 Posted 07/08/2007 at 23:20:27
I cant read! Portsmouth are in too! The story got me all a tither.
dgf
9 Posted 07/08/2007 at 23:18:06
9 Posted 07/08/2007 at 23:18:06
Why has "Planet Hollywood Earl" suddenly appeared on the board? I was under the impression he was going to be a silent partner.
Maybe the rumours suggested yesterday that new finance will be announced later in the week on the basis of a yes vote might indeed be true.
It will make an interesting proposition to many of the swaying voters "Vote yes and you get Manny and Yakubu. Vote no and get Osman and Mcfadden"
Of course it is all likely to be a load of media crap.
Maybe the rumours suggested yesterday that new finance will be announced later in the week on the basis of a yes vote might indeed be true.
It will make an interesting proposition to many of the swaying voters "Vote yes and you get Manny and Yakubu. Vote no and get Osman and Mcfadden"
Of course it is all likely to be a load of media crap.
Keith Harrison
10 Posted 07/08/2007 at 23:57:35
10 Posted 07/08/2007 at 23:57:35
Benni MacCarthy has a £5 million release clause in his contract.
If we are going to blow £16 million, we could surely buy him and Manny for that. He was at Goodison last week, is a big mate of Pienaar’s, and wanted to come to us before he went to Blackburn.
Go for it Davey !!!!
If we are going to blow £16 million, we could surely buy him and Manny for that. He was at Goodison last week, is a big mate of Pienaar’s, and wanted to come to us before he went to Blackburn.
Go for it Davey !!!!
Paul Rowlands
11 Posted 08/08/2007 at 00:08:20
11 Posted 08/08/2007 at 00:08:20
I think mccarthy has just signed a new deal, may not be in the new contract, should have got him when we had the chance
steve ferns
12 Posted 08/08/2007 at 00:18:17
12 Posted 08/08/2007 at 00:18:17
I’m crossing everything in hope that we sign Manny. What a player he could be.
Just a thought but we do have a vacant 9 and 10 shirt waiting.
Just a thought but we do have a vacant 9 and 10 shirt waiting.
Art Greeth
13 Posted 08/08/2007 at 00:13:21
13 Posted 08/08/2007 at 00:13:21
Just read this link from a Brazilian website about Lucho:
http://esportes.terra.com.br/futebol/europeu2007/interna/0,,OI1815289-EI9975,00.html
It says:
Porto has rejected Everton?s offer to sign the Argntinian midfielder Lucho Gonzáles and have now obtained 100% control of the player?s contract rights, said a spokesperson for the Portuguese team. The spokesperson said that Porto has paid Global Soccer Agencies 6.6 million euros for the other half of the player?s contract rights, who has also attracted the interest of Real Madrid. The midfielder has been with Porto since the 2005-2006 season an in 60 games has scored 19 goals.
If true, a shrewd move by Porto - ensuring they have 100% control on whether to sell the player or not, with no tricky third party ownership, putting them in a very strong bargaining position.
http://esportes.terra.com.br/futebol/europeu2007/interna/0,,OI1815289-EI9975,00.html
It says:
Porto has rejected Everton?s offer to sign the Argntinian midfielder Lucho Gonzáles and have now obtained 100% control of the player?s contract rights, said a spokesperson for the Portuguese team. The spokesperson said that Porto has paid Global Soccer Agencies 6.6 million euros for the other half of the player?s contract rights, who has also attracted the interest of Real Madrid. The midfielder has been with Porto since the 2005-2006 season an in 60 games has scored 19 goals.
If true, a shrewd move by Porto - ensuring they have 100% control on whether to sell the player or not, with no tricky third party ownership, putting them in a very strong bargaining position.
steve ferns
14 Posted 08/08/2007 at 00:32:22
14 Posted 08/08/2007 at 00:32:22
Art, its in portugese so I;ll just have to take your word for it. I guess that’s that with Lucho. Still, a week ago i was more or less oblivious to him.
On the other hand, if Porto own him 100%, then it’ll make it easier for us to get him. They bought 50% for £4 million which means that an £11million deal might be something they’d go for?
Probably not, but I want to be optimistic.
On the other hand, if Porto own him 100%, then it’ll make it easier for us to get him. They bought 50% for £4 million which means that an £11million deal might be something they’d go for?
Probably not, but I want to be optimistic.
kieran kinsella
15 Posted 08/08/2007 at 03:03:16
15 Posted 08/08/2007 at 03:03:16
I wouldn’t be that surprised to see Fernandes come back either permanently or on loan again. I am assuming that the reason we didn’t snap him up sooner was because cheapskate BK didn’t want to pay his wages through June/July and August. We probably saved about 300 or 400k by waiting until now to move for him .... if indeed the rumours are true.
Art Greeth
16 Posted 08/08/2007 at 08:25:01
16 Posted 08/08/2007 at 08:25:01
Finally, something in the Portuguese media about Lucho, from the daily football rag in Portugal. http://www.abola.pt/nnh/index.asp?op=ver¬icia=126038&tema=5
It reads:
FC Porto has retained the medfielder Argentinean Lucho González, refusing the offer from English club Everton, by acquiring for 6.650 million euros the remaining 50 percent of the player’s contract rights.
An official reports that FC Porto informs that it "refused the received offer of Everton for Lucho González" and that the club now owns complete contract rights to the player.
This suggests to me:
* Everton’s bid was genuine
* Porto were spooked enough to buy out the other half of his contract with third party agents to ensure he could not be sold off easily or against their wishes
* It now gives Porto a strong hand in the bargaining game
* It may - or may not! - make things less complicated for a deal to be made
However, the Porto manager has been quoted as saying that he has no desire whatsoever to lose the player.
It reads:
FC Porto has retained the medfielder Argentinean Lucho González, refusing the offer from English club Everton, by acquiring for 6.650 million euros the remaining 50 percent of the player’s contract rights.
An official reports that FC Porto informs that it "refused the received offer of Everton for Lucho González" and that the club now owns complete contract rights to the player.
This suggests to me:
* Everton’s bid was genuine
* Porto were spooked enough to buy out the other half of his contract with third party agents to ensure he could not be sold off easily or against their wishes
* It now gives Porto a strong hand in the bargaining game
* It may - or may not! - make things less complicated for a deal to be made
However, the Porto manager has been quoted as saying that he has no desire whatsoever to lose the player.
Gareth Davies
17 Posted 08/08/2007 at 08:37:47
17 Posted 08/08/2007 at 08:37:47
Hmmm... Rumours of big money transfers appearing in the national press at the same time that ballot papers for a potentially crucial vote regarding a ground move are sent???
Call my cynical, but could the two things be linked?
I tend not to believe transfer talk until I see the player holding up a shirt, or signing a contract in that little room with a desk, but I think even less importance can be placed on rumours while the relocation issue is at the fore.
Call my cynical, but could the two things be linked?
I tend not to believe transfer talk until I see the player holding up a shirt, or signing a contract in that little room with a desk, but I think even less importance can be placed on rumours while the relocation issue is at the fore.
lue glover
18 Posted 08/08/2007 at 08:40:21
18 Posted 08/08/2007 at 08:40:21
Oh please let there be some truth in Manny coming back to us. Wishful thinking maybe but just for today let me dream. Arteta, Manny with the sweet stuff, Cahill and Piennar maybe, with the bite. A back four made of steel......AJ on fire and ???. Dream on girl, dream on.
PATTY
19 Posted 08/08/2007 at 09:09:56
19 Posted 08/08/2007 at 09:09:56
Could it be that Robert Earl has given us an injection of cash - he was over here a couple of weeks ago. Wouldn’t be surprised or even Rocky - the latter I don’t think so!!
Blue Shaun Cook
20 Posted 08/08/2007 at 09:31:50
20 Posted 08/08/2007 at 09:31:50
If we get them 2 bad boys we are cooking on gas ! Then we will a team capable of doing something special ! COME ON YOU BLUES ! Get Manny back, get Manny back !
Brian Waring
21 Posted 08/08/2007 at 10:07:57
21 Posted 08/08/2007 at 10:07:57
I thought Man city had already tabled a £10m for Manny?I think this is just a hack, trying to fill in some spaces.
Ian McDowell
22 Posted 08/08/2007 at 10:59:31
22 Posted 08/08/2007 at 10:59:31
Two good signings, I think that we really need Manny more as when Arteta is absent, the midfield struggles and he is likely to be more of a marked man this season.
Jon Berry
23 Posted 08/08/2007 at 11:25:13
23 Posted 08/08/2007 at 11:25:13
Sky Sports is reporting that Benfica don’t want to sell Fernandes and he is happy to stay there. Doesn’t look good unfortunately.
Lee Spargo
24 Posted 08/08/2007 at 11:45:32
24 Posted 08/08/2007 at 11:45:32
Attention all conspiracy theorists.
Please explain to me WTF transfer speculation has to do with the Kikby vote?
I’m voting yes regardless of whether we sign Fernandes/Gonzales/Yakubu. I’m guessing that those who are going to vote no have already made their minds up anyway based on the ’city’ argument.
Transfer rumours are just that - rumours. They have nothing to do with the ballot. If you think otherwise, then you really have gone insane over the summer.
Please explain to me WTF transfer speculation has to do with the Kikby vote?
I’m voting yes regardless of whether we sign Fernandes/Gonzales/Yakubu. I’m guessing that those who are going to vote no have already made their minds up anyway based on the ’city’ argument.
Transfer rumours are just that - rumours. They have nothing to do with the ballot. If you think otherwise, then you really have gone insane over the summer.
Dutch Schaffaer
25 Posted 08/08/2007 at 12:13:07
25 Posted 08/08/2007 at 12:13:07
I’d love to see Fernandes return for a knocked down price but not overly happy with the Yakubu link.
I have a friend who supports Portsmouth and he always complained that for every goal Yakubu scored he missed two.
Everton aren’t the sort of side to create many chances so we wouldn’t be able to allow Yakubu to miss many.
Plus Yakubu is quite a lazy player, he has the talent to score 20 goals a season easily but far too often he looks uninterested.
I feel it would be a mistake to spend that much money on Yakubu, I would rather Moyes found a promising young striker for £5-6 million.
I have a friend who supports Portsmouth and he always complained that for every goal Yakubu scored he missed two.
Everton aren’t the sort of side to create many chances so we wouldn’t be able to allow Yakubu to miss many.
Plus Yakubu is quite a lazy player, he has the talent to score 20 goals a season easily but far too often he looks uninterested.
I feel it would be a mistake to spend that much money on Yakubu, I would rather Moyes found a promising young striker for £5-6 million.
Allan
26 Posted 08/08/2007 at 12:20:03
26 Posted 08/08/2007 at 12:20:03
Well said Lee, the fact that the vote is happening now has nothing to do with any transfer activity. The season starts in 3 days, the transfer window closes on 31st August so now IS the time to be doing deals on players.
The Lucho thing is a dead duck, Porto now own the player and won’t sell. Manny might come back, although its true Benfica say they want to keep him and even he’s now said he’s getting ready for the new season there - mind you, if we make the right bid he could still end up back with us. I certainly hope so.
Yakubu would be a great signing, him & AJ up front would be a massive boost. He scores alot of goals and is just what we need.
The Lucho thing is a dead duck, Porto now own the player and won’t sell. Manny might come back, although its true Benfica say they want to keep him and even he’s now said he’s getting ready for the new season there - mind you, if we make the right bid he could still end up back with us. I certainly hope so.
Yakubu would be a great signing, him & AJ up front would be a massive boost. He scores alot of goals and is just what we need.
Ross Trotter
27 Posted 08/08/2007 at 12:27:52
27 Posted 08/08/2007 at 12:27:52
Dutch we already have two promising young strikers, why would we punt money on another one? it’s a proven goalscorer that the big money goes on and that’s what Yakubu is.
to say he is lazy seems a bit dramatic, the guy scores double figures most seasons, something we’ve always lacked in a striker.
to say he is lazy seems a bit dramatic, the guy scores double figures most seasons, something we’ve always lacked in a striker.
Allan
28 Posted 08/08/2007 at 12:31:29
28 Posted 08/08/2007 at 12:31:29
36 goals in 81 games for Pompey.
25 goals in 71 games for Boro, 16 last season, £10/£11M is a fair price for a proven Premier League player, good buy without doubt.
Big, strong, quick, great finisher, would work well with AJ and either of Vaughan or Anichebe - we’d look like a way better side with him & Manny in the team.
25 goals in 71 games for Boro, 16 last season, £10/£11M is a fair price for a proven Premier League player, good buy without doubt.
Big, strong, quick, great finisher, would work well with AJ and either of Vaughan or Anichebe - we’d look like a way better side with him & Manny in the team.
PL PL
29 Posted 08/08/2007 at 12:58:15
29 Posted 08/08/2007 at 12:58:15
Anyone thing Gravesen would be a good owl squad player to have?
Allan
30 Posted 08/08/2007 at 13:03:06
30 Posted 08/08/2007 at 13:03:06
No. Pointless backward step.
PL PL
31 Posted 08/08/2007 at 13:05:19
31 Posted 08/08/2007 at 13:05:19
I think he’s be handy to have on a 1 year contract!
Ross Trotter
32 Posted 08/08/2007 at 13:20:20
32 Posted 08/08/2007 at 13:20:20
He’s been PISH for Celtic PL PL. dunno if that’s down to him or management or whatever. Would rather see Fernandes come in though. Like Allan says it’d be a step backwards. You know what it’s like though, we get bated with Manny but we’ll probably end up with Mad Dog.
PL PL
33 Posted 08/08/2007 at 13:46:37
33 Posted 08/08/2007 at 13:46:37
Im not saying we should see him our future! Dont mean to make comparisions with the Red shite but when they brouhgt Fowler back he was handy to have.. even if it was jsut to lift the crowd when he came onto the pitch. He could provide cover especially when Pienaar goes off
Allan
34 Posted 08/08/2007 at 13:50:27
34 Posted 08/08/2007 at 13:50:27
From Football365
GRAVESEN BEING ’FROZEN OUT’ - AGENT
Celtic midfielder Thomas Gravesen may seek a transfer in January if he has not won a regular starting place, according to his agent.
Gravesen moved to Celtic Park on a £2million deal from Real Madrid a year ago but has found himself increasingly sidelined by manager Gordon Strachan.
The 31-year-old was not even on the bench for the team’s opening Clydesdale Bank Premier League draw with Kilmarnock on Sunday.
The Dane instead travelled to Donegal to play for the reserves in a 3-2 defeat by eircom League side Finn Harps on Monday night.
Agent John Sivebaek claims Gravesen he will consider his options at the turn of the year if the situation does not improve.
"The only reason that Thomas has stayed with Celtic is because of how much he loves the club," Sivebaek told the Scottish Sun. "He thinks the club is fantastic and the fans are fantastic.
"The only thing missing is he’s not playing football. He’s not getting a chance and it’s my personal opinion he is being frozen out.
"He’s frustrated right now but he accepts the situation even if he does find it very strange.
"If come the next transfer window he’s not playing we’d have to consider our options."
I still think it’d be a bad move, he had his time with us. Fowler didn’t actually do anything on the field other than, like you say, lift the crowd. If we need something to lift the crowd then we should get scantily clad woman with pom poms.
GRAVESEN BEING ’FROZEN OUT’ - AGENT
Celtic midfielder Thomas Gravesen may seek a transfer in January if he has not won a regular starting place, according to his agent.
Gravesen moved to Celtic Park on a £2million deal from Real Madrid a year ago but has found himself increasingly sidelined by manager Gordon Strachan.
The 31-year-old was not even on the bench for the team’s opening Clydesdale Bank Premier League draw with Kilmarnock on Sunday.
The Dane instead travelled to Donegal to play for the reserves in a 3-2 defeat by eircom League side Finn Harps on Monday night.
Agent John Sivebaek claims Gravesen he will consider his options at the turn of the year if the situation does not improve.
"The only reason that Thomas has stayed with Celtic is because of how much he loves the club," Sivebaek told the Scottish Sun. "He thinks the club is fantastic and the fans are fantastic.
"The only thing missing is he’s not playing football. He’s not getting a chance and it’s my personal opinion he is being frozen out.
"He’s frustrated right now but he accepts the situation even if he does find it very strange.
"If come the next transfer window he’s not playing we’d have to consider our options."
I still think it’d be a bad move, he had his time with us. Fowler didn’t actually do anything on the field other than, like you say, lift the crowd. If we need something to lift the crowd then we should get scantily clad woman with pom poms.
Connor Rohrer
35 Posted 08/08/2007 at 13:48:27
35 Posted 08/08/2007 at 13:48:27
It would make my day if we got Fernandes back. We are desperate for someone who can control the midfield. Spray passes aswell as dictate the play. We have our creative ball players in the likes of Arteta, Osman, Pienaar and hopefully Andy Van der Meyde but we really need something a bit different. Are football improved dramatically and with Fernandes teaming up with Arteta it made me a lot more confident when going to the match.
I wouldnt mind Yakubu either but to be honest I dont think Middlesbourgh will sell. He is a lazy bastard but is a natural goalscorer aswell as being very strong. Maybe his relationship with Joseph Yobo will have something to do with it.
I wouldnt mind Yakubu either but to be honest I dont think Middlesbourgh will sell. He is a lazy bastard but is a natural goalscorer aswell as being very strong. Maybe his relationship with Joseph Yobo will have something to do with it.
Allan
36 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:01:34
36 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:01:34
Casting aspersions on our players good names will get you nowhere Connor!!
Ray
37 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:05:05
37 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:05:05
If we could purchase both Fernandes and Yakubu before the end of the month it would arguably be the most important business done by E.F.C for many a year...Fernandes we all know would make Everton midfield all that more pacy and stronger, we need someone in there so badly especially with Cahill missing..Yakubu scored 16 goals last season and so far every season he has had in the Premiership has been prolific..What a partnership he could strike up with AJ..This is an exciting thought but what are the actual chances of either of these coming off?. I would say Im 90% certain that we wont land either of them just as I was sure we wouldnt get Gonzalez despite the ’real confident’ mood we had about him according to that oh not so reliable Echo writer Dominic King..Lets wait and see and keep our hopes up for now.
Ajay Gopal
38 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:14:31
38 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:14:31
I admit to being a fan of David Moyes transfer strategy - most of the time.
But I must admit to being mystified by the recent links to Fernandes and Yakubu (of course, they may be just that - rumours).
If we had 16 million to spend, Why would we stay quiet until the new season is upon us ? Surely, Fernandes was an obvious target ?
Why turn down a chance to bid for an up and coming striker (and a sworn Blue) - Nugent and bid much higher for an ageing 10 million rated striker - Yakubu ?
Something does not ring right for me.
Anyway, I would be glad to see Fernandes in - not so sure about Yakubu. In my opinion, Nugent/Smith would have been far better value for money.
But I must admit to being mystified by the recent links to Fernandes and Yakubu (of course, they may be just that - rumours).
If we had 16 million to spend, Why would we stay quiet until the new season is upon us ? Surely, Fernandes was an obvious target ?
Why turn down a chance to bid for an up and coming striker (and a sworn Blue) - Nugent and bid much higher for an ageing 10 million rated striker - Yakubu ?
Something does not ring right for me.
Anyway, I would be glad to see Fernandes in - not so sure about Yakubu. In my opinion, Nugent/Smith would have been far better value for money.
Michael Ferguson
39 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:11:27
39 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:11:27
Just how young would our first team be if we actually manage to get both these lads?
Paul
40 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:18:10
40 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:18:10
Yakubu would be a great buy, his physical presence would give AJ lots more space to work in up front. Manny is a class player and I hope he signs, if we could add Vogel on a free to backup the holding role in midfield and then in Jan switch our attention onto bringing in a centre back to replace Stubbs in the long term and Yobo during the African Nations Cup. If we are looking for short term cover Sami Hyppia is a Stubbs type of player and if he could be picked up for a song on a 2yr deal I think that would be good business.
Samuel
41 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:31:26
41 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:31:26
I’d prefer Fernandes and Samuel E’to
james elworthy
42 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:34:49
42 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:34:49
Do you believe in father christmas too samuel
Gareth Davies
43 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:29:38
43 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:29:38
Ajay... at 24 I hardly think that Yakubu could be called an ageing striker. He’s got a few good years at top level left in him.
Paul... I think Hyppia is a non starter. We have far better cover in Stubbs and Jagielka already.
Paul... I think Hyppia is a non starter. We have far better cover in Stubbs and Jagielka already.
Samuel
44 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:36:24
44 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:36:24
I just think - wouldn’t it be fantastic if a massive player signed for the club.
If Lucho had signed - it would of been incredible...
If Lucho had signed - it would of been incredible...
Michael Ferguson
45 Posted 08/08/2007 at 11:07:50
45 Posted 08/08/2007 at 11:07:50
If, and I know it is probably just a pipedream, but if we do succeed in this late capture of Manny and Yakubu could anyone tell us what the average age of our first team would be?
The prospect has actually got me moist with anticipation!
Tim Lowe
46 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:29:10
46 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:29:10
I too think the Yak would be a good signing, you cant knock his premiership record for boro and pompey. However, i cant help but remember my excitement many seasons ago when we signed Daniel Amokachi another nigerian striker of similar build, and apart from 2 goals in a FA Cup semi-final dont remember him doing much for us. We could’ve had nugent and smith for not much more money than yakubu
Samuel
47 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:46:01
47 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:46:01
Ah Tim - Daniel Amokachi!! Danny boy Ammmo-Catchy!
’Is this 4? It is 4!! Everton are on their way to Wembley!!’
’Is this 4? It is 4!! Everton are on their way to Wembley!!’
Andy Baker
48 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:45:16
48 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:45:16
Ajay Gopel
’’if we had 16 million to spend, Why would we stay quiet until the new season is upon us ? Surely, Fernandes was an obvious target ?
Why turn down a chance to bid for an up and coming striker (and a sworn Blue) - Nugent and bid much higher for an ageing 10 million rated striker - Yakubu ?
Erm Yakubu is 24 - only 2 years older than nugent and a proven prem striker, i know he looks about 37 but hes actually not.
although....Amokachi was never 23 was he!
’’if we had 16 million to spend, Why would we stay quiet until the new season is upon us ? Surely, Fernandes was an obvious target ?
Why turn down a chance to bid for an up and coming striker (and a sworn Blue) - Nugent and bid much higher for an ageing 10 million rated striker - Yakubu ?
Erm Yakubu is 24 - only 2 years older than nugent and a proven prem striker, i know he looks about 37 but hes actually not.
although....Amokachi was never 23 was he!
Robert Gibson
49 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:36:19
49 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:36:19
Yakubu ageing? He’s 24 FFS!
Great buys, both of them.
Great buys, both of them.
Andy Baker
50 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:48:45
50 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:48:45
Tim - Smith 12 in 92 for man utd. Nugent 1 in 3 ni the championship.
i would rather have 1 decent player than 2 average players
nugent is unknown but i like proven quality if you can afford it that is.
i would rather have 1 decent player than 2 average players
nugent is unknown but i like proven quality if you can afford it that is.
Gareth Davies
51 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:47:54
51 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:47:54
Michael... depends what your first XI would be really.
How about:
Howard (28), Jagielka (24), Yobo (26), Lescott (24), Baines (22), Arteta (25), Cahill (27), Fernandes (21), Pienaar (25), Johnson (26), Yakubu (24).
That’d give us an average age of 24.73. Obviously this would go up with Neville (as is likely) and down with Anichebe or Vaughan. Not bad though, it could be a first XI for a good few years.
How about:
Howard (28), Jagielka (24), Yobo (26), Lescott (24), Baines (22), Arteta (25), Cahill (27), Fernandes (21), Pienaar (25), Johnson (26), Yakubu (24).
That’d give us an average age of 24.73. Obviously this would go up with Neville (as is likely) and down with Anichebe or Vaughan. Not bad though, it could be a first XI for a good few years.
Ray
52 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:48:12
52 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:48:12
Im sorry but I cant see the clamour all the time for Nugent..He is not proven at Premiership level and would he really have complimented the way AJ plays..I get the feeling not so..Yakubu is a proven goalscorer in the Premiership and I would have him tomorow but its not going to happen probably..The biggest shame of it really is we could have had him for maybe 6 million pound in January of 2005. The same month we signed James Beattie but thats done with now..All we know is Everton need a bigger squad with a bit more quality
Samuel
53 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:52:27
53 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:52:27
Was it Matt Jackson or Stuart Barlow who hit the ball onto the bar when it rebounded off and Rideout nodded home?
Tim Lowe
54 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:55:05
54 Posted 08/08/2007 at 14:55:05
Andy
Point taken but moyes has got good history with picking up championship players. I guess we wont know whether not going in for nugent was a mistake until we see him in the prem. I do think yak would be a great signing, its just this resemblance to amokachi thats nagging at me.
Point taken but moyes has got good history with picking up championship players. I guess we wont know whether not going in for nugent was a mistake until we see him in the prem. I do think yak would be a great signing, its just this resemblance to amokachi thats nagging at me.
Tim Lowe
55 Posted 08/08/2007 at 15:00:19
55 Posted 08/08/2007 at 15:00:19
It was graham stuart samuel
Gareth Davies
56 Posted 08/08/2007 at 15:01:52
56 Posted 08/08/2007 at 15:01:52
Samuel...
I think it was Graham Stuart who executed the audacious off-the-bar pass.
I think it was Graham Stuart who executed the audacious off-the-bar pass.
Carl Williamson
57 Posted 08/08/2007 at 15:00:41
57 Posted 08/08/2007 at 15:00:41
anyone else find it odd how all the storys linking us with fernandes have suddenly dissapeared ? if we sign yakubu then thats all good although i think 10m is abit too much to be honest...id much rather us focus on signing fernandes, we are so short of creativity in midfield and fernandes would bring creativity by the shedload..
Samuel
58 Posted 08/08/2007 at 15:03:17
58 Posted 08/08/2007 at 15:03:17
U know what lads I think you maybe right!
It was a great pass though wasnt it?!
Did anyone go? I was only 16. I thought the good times were back!
It was a great pass though wasnt it?!
Did anyone go? I was only 16. I thought the good times were back!
Ajay Gopal
59 Posted 08/08/2007 at 15:12:14
59 Posted 08/08/2007 at 15:12:14
Oops, sorry ! Must have been thinking of the wrong guy. At 24, that sounds good.
Notice that we are linked to a German goalkeeper today on a free transfer from FC Koln ?
Notice that we are linked to a German goalkeeper today on a free transfer from FC Koln ?
Anthony Newell
60 Posted 08/08/2007 at 17:56:08
60 Posted 08/08/2007 at 17:56:08
What a tit Gravesen’s agent is and yes Tommy would be a step back. Wouldn’t have found that so easy to say if Arteta hadn’t come good!
Can’t help thinking that Yakubu does have a bit of the ’can’t be arsed’ look about him but his scoring record speaks for itself. Fernandes is essential as all our creativity usually comes through Arteta. Snuff him out the game and were fucked
Can’t help thinking that Yakubu does have a bit of the ’can’t be arsed’ look about him but his scoring record speaks for itself. Fernandes is essential as all our creativity usually comes through Arteta. Snuff him out the game and were fucked
Andrew Carey
61 Posted 08/08/2007 at 17:40:44
61 Posted 08/08/2007 at 17:40:44
Just to note that Fernandes does not feature in the squad list on the Benfica web site
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