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Why Everton have not been bought?
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Very interesting article in The Guardian today on Man City and why Thaksin bought them (go to ).
According to this, Thaksin preferred Man City because (a) they were relatively cheap (certainly cheaper than Everton's current market price), and (b) "unlike Spurs, Everton or Liverpool, all clubs sweating on difficult stadium moves or expansions, City came with a new 48,000-seat stadium built by the council along with their army of desperately loyal fans".
This certainly could be taken to support Terry Leahy's point that Everton will be MORE likely to attract investment if they go with the Kirkby deal. An argument I have made myself. But I am sure there are other views!
Neil Pearse, Posted 22/08/2007 at 07:27:55
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Michael Kenrick
Isn't that a "no-brainer"?
Tony Marsh
1 Posted 22/08/2007 at 13:41:29
1 Posted 22/08/2007 at 13:41:29
Niel Man Citys new home isnt stuck in the middle of no where and will get utilised properly.Phil Collins and Genesis were there last month.Do you reaaly think one of the worlds big rock stars or bands will do a gig in Kirkby.Get Real.
Tony Marsh
2 Posted 22/08/2007 at 13:44:59
2 Posted 22/08/2007 at 13:44:59
When the New Anfield is 5 minutes from the city center Get real.
Neil Pearse
3 Posted 22/08/2007 at 13:46:25
3 Posted 22/08/2007 at 13:46:25
Tony, you may well be right about Genesis, but I wasn’t claiming that Kirkby and the City of Manchester stadium were comparable in that way. I was simply relaying the hypothesis that the reason Everton have not attracted a big investor may well be because we are not attractive if the new owner has to fund an expensive new stadium. Rather than, for example, because Kenwright has been turning them all away.
Michael, apart from being unnecessarily rude, your comment that this is a "no-brainer" does not reflect well on your fellow NOs who have (a) denied vehemently that having a new stadium in the bag will more likely bring along new investors (the point Leahy made), and (b) have just as vehemently argued that it is largely BK’s fault that we have not secured this investor.
Michael, apart from being unnecessarily rude, your comment that this is a "no-brainer" does not reflect well on your fellow NOs who have (a) denied vehemently that having a new stadium in the bag will more likely bring along new investors (the point Leahy made), and (b) have just as vehemently argued that it is largely BK’s fault that we have not secured this investor.
Tony Marsh
4 Posted 22/08/2007 at 13:58:36
4 Posted 22/08/2007 at 13:58:36
Sorry Niel my mistake.I thought you were saying a new ground would help attract investors which it would do usually only this one will be in Kirkby and wont be as appealling.The board can spin all they like about new revenue streams coming in to the club but it wont work out there.Corporate clients,Buisness people and football tourists will give it the wide berth for sure.All we will have to rely on/>is the every day Evertonians.White Elephant I think its called
Steve L
5 Posted 22/08/2007 at 14:22:37
5 Posted 22/08/2007 at 14:22:37
But City rent the staium so the money from the Genesis gig would have probably gone to the council not into the club’s coffers.
Also they might be deep in the doo-doo if Thaskin is found guilty on corruption charges and they demand all his money. Prior to the take-over £80M in debt, no assets, spent £20-£30M.
For once I’m glad we weren’t of interest to him.
Also they might be deep in the doo-doo if Thaskin is found guilty on corruption charges and they demand all his money. Prior to the take-over £80M in debt, no assets, spent £20-£30M.
For once I’m glad we weren’t of interest to him.
Dave Roberts
6 Posted 22/08/2007 at 14:45:48
6 Posted 22/08/2007 at 14:45:48
Concerts? Pop Artists? Won’t go to Kirkby? Nonsense!
If a quarter of a million will stand in a field up to their crutches in mud and cowshit with two toilets between them at Glastonbury (it is Glastonbury innit?)then Kirkby will seem like heaven for the poor sods. For God’s sake Kirkby is on the edge of the City of Liverpool. It is not in the middle of nowhere.Access will be easier in my opinion than the new analfield and could make Kirkby a better proposition for events like this (if they are so important)
Additionally (it is very subjective I know) but I do not think the pictures we have seen of the Kirkby Stadium make it look cheap and it certainly does not deserve to be described as a cowshed. Stadium designs are usually crap anyway because they are not partcularly aimed at being aesthetically pleasing...but I think Kirkby is actually one of the better ones and if it was being built to replace the Goodison site or on the Loop, nobody would have a problem with it!
If a quarter of a million will stand in a field up to their crutches in mud and cowshit with two toilets between them at Glastonbury (it is Glastonbury innit?)then Kirkby will seem like heaven for the poor sods. For God’s sake Kirkby is on the edge of the City of Liverpool. It is not in the middle of nowhere.Access will be easier in my opinion than the new analfield and could make Kirkby a better proposition for events like this (if they are so important)
Additionally (it is very subjective I know) but I do not think the pictures we have seen of the Kirkby Stadium make it look cheap and it certainly does not deserve to be described as a cowshed. Stadium designs are usually crap anyway because they are not partcularly aimed at being aesthetically pleasing...but I think Kirkby is actually one of the better ones and if it was being built to replace the Goodison site or on the Loop, nobody would have a problem with it!
Ray Burns
7 Posted 22/08/2007 at 15:28:44
7 Posted 22/08/2007 at 15:28:44
You have to be joking regarding Man City, your telling me that our History is not better than Man City, come on here lets get real, it is that Knob Kenwright who is stopping us from omving forward, all he is doing is looking after his own pocket, the only way this club will move forward, will be without Kenwright.
Ray Burns
8 Posted 22/08/2007 at 15:33:36
8 Posted 22/08/2007 at 15:33:36
You have to be joking regarding Man City, your telling me that our History is not better than Man City, come on here lets get real, it is that Knob Kenwright who is stopping us from moving forward, all he is doing is looking after his own pocket, the only way this club will move forward, will be without Kenwright.
Neil Pearse
9 Posted 22/08/2007 at 15:53:52
9 Posted 22/08/2007 at 15:53:52
Ray, nobody is saying anything about Man City’s history and its comparison with ours. Indeed, quite the reverse. The Guardian article in fact suggests that Spurs and Everton might have been more attractive as an investment than Man City - but the fact that Man City had a new stadium already made the big difference.
And as to your comments on Kenwright - well, I have been critical of him many times, but the idea that he is Chairman of Everton to line his own pocket is a bit ridiculous. It has personally cost him a lot of his own money to be Chair of Everton, and he certainly could have found more attractive places to invest (the West End for example).
And as to your comments on Kenwright - well, I have been critical of him many times, but the idea that he is Chairman of Everton to line his own pocket is a bit ridiculous. It has personally cost him a lot of his own money to be Chair of Everton, and he certainly could have found more attractive places to invest (the West End for example).
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