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That Kenwright interview on the OS

Lasts 4 mins 56 seconds. It fleetingly mentions the word Kirkby. Once. After 4 mins 37 seconds. Make of that what you will...
Greg Murphy, Liverpool Posted 22/08/2007 at 17:53:07

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Dave Roberts
1 Posted 22/08/2007 at 20:39:07

Yeah, ok, I’ll make of that what I will.

Danny Broderick
2 Posted 22/08/2007 at 22:34:06

I think we are as good as gone. I have just listened to it, and as Bill said himself, if over 17,500 of the 35,000 votes are NOs, we won’t go. Can anyone honestly see us getting that many NOs?

robert carney
3 Posted 22/08/2007 at 22:47:37

It depends on how many duplicate papers go the no vote way(sic).

The electoral reform society’s findings will make good reading.

If we ever get the chance to seeit.

Steve Ferns
4 Posted 22/08/2007 at 22:52:50

when was the last day for voting?

rob
5 Posted 22/08/2007 at 23:10:12

o well we need to go move the club forward

dgf
6 Posted 22/08/2007 at 23:06:25

Danny the result really has been obvious all the time but I have been reluctant to say it.
17,500 people have to vote no for it to be no vote.
How many votes do you reckon they will get back? I would say 25,000(around 70%)would be a good return.
Therefore only around 21% of votes that get returned have to vote yes for it to be a yes vote.
The vote has always been a formality.

Steve Ferns
7 Posted 22/08/2007 at 23:15:57

DGF, you can’t count an absentation or spoilt vote as yes! That’s absurd.

As for turn out, it’ll be well over 95%. Do you really believe 10,000 will not vote because they can’t make their minds or or can’t be bothered? everyone will vote as its a simple issue close to people’s hearts

joey
8 Posted 22/08/2007 at 23:18:59

Hence the brown nosing

Greg Murphy
9 Posted 22/08/2007 at 23:15:28

Yeah, Dave Roberts it?s a curious one. Either he was shying away from mentioning Kirkby unless he really had to (in the end I was fully expecting him to get all the way through almost 5 mins of rhetoric without mentioning it). Or he was deliberately steering clear of it - in a sense of honour - so as he couldn?t be accused of trying to influence proceedings whilst the vote was still active. I really couldn?t make my mind up. Seems you?re the same. Or did I misinterpret your response?

Steve Ferns
10 Posted 22/08/2007 at 23:22:55

I hope he cleans his teeth in between the arse licking

Steve Ferns
11 Posted 22/08/2007 at 23:24:23

Has the deadline not passed yet? i thought the results were out by the end of the week?

Dave
12 Posted 22/08/2007 at 23:25:36

"Steering clear of it - in a sense of honour - so he couldnt be accused of trying to influence proceedings" ?

Greg Murphy that is the final straw , you have either raised the gullible bar to unprecidented heights or you are taking the p..s
BK and his board have never contented themselves by merely influencing procedings, they have done everything in their power to ensure the outcome

dgf
13 Posted 22/08/2007 at 23:26:50

Steve it is absurd but I bet they would never deny it. All they have said is that the majority will have to vote no. If they don’t get 17,500 no votes they could say they have a yes mandate. I have believed this for ages and if you look into all interviews etc they have never clearly stated what a no vote has to consist of.
They could quite rightly therefore state that any unreturned ballot papers meant that the person did not have an opinion and therefore did not object to moving to Kirkby.
I have believed this for ages but have been reluctant to post it in case it made more people vote no.
To be honest lads we have all been had they will not lose no matter what.
Of course unless they get a true no vote we will never know if my suspicions are correct or not.

If anybody thinks this is shite why not ask the club direct and see if they deny it.

Greg Murphy
14 Posted 22/08/2007 at 23:37:42

Dave, you do know there’s no such word as gullible don’t you? It’s not even in the dictionary. :-)

Steve Ferns
15 Posted 22/08/2007 at 23:41:02

Just like the word "honour" is not in Kenwright’s dictionary?

Steve Ferns
16 Posted 22/08/2007 at 23:42:21

BFG or whatever your name is, I think your wrong about that. If that ever came out then they would be linched.

I think BK might try to mislead or misrepresent things to Everton fans but he would never properly cheat like that.

dgf
17 Posted 22/08/2007 at 23:45:17

Steve you will never know.
All they have to say is 49.9% of people voted no.
It is up to them what they publish. Just be suspicious if they publish very little information
These things can be very easily manipulated.

Dave Widness
18 Posted 22/08/2007 at 23:50:08

tesco fc, i cant wait : /

were going to be getting the piss taken out of us for years to come, a stadium which is basically just a giant tesco store :(

Steve Ferns
19 Posted 22/08/2007 at 23:54:25

You know full well that the artists rendition of the stadium will see "the people’s club" replaced with "every little helps". They’ll sell Tescos own lager (the shittest beer ever) in the ground. And you’ll be able to use your club card getting food at half time, you know tesco value pies and pasties.

Steve Lyth
20 Posted 23/08/2007 at 00:08:21

For all you,s that voted YES, I hope you get the Mummys Curse, you fuckin Scavengers.
Any one wants a go, I drink in the Pacific, see you in there Saturday about 4.00pm.

Steve Ferns
21 Posted 23/08/2007 at 00:18:09

How will the Yes voters recognise you Steve? Will you be holding a red rose?

Steve Lyth
22 Posted 23/08/2007 at 00:21:18

Just ask behind the bar for Lythy mate or give it a general shout, I may be outside having a smoke.
I was not given a vote on an alternative their either.

Steve Ferns
23 Posted 23/08/2007 at 00:52:49

Lythy, what was your smoking alternative then? Or plan ’B’ as wyness would call it?

Steve Lyth
24 Posted 23/08/2007 at 09:48:19

Steve, as you well know there is no alternative to the Goverments directive.
However,if I was in a position to put forward a plan b for my stinking pastime it would be thus.
Any landlord owning a public house to be given a choice on whether he runs a smoking establishment or not.Staff to be appraised accordingly and none smokers warned in big writing at the door, "Ye who enter do so at your peril".
That Sir is democracy.I think I went a bit over the top last night,
I dont really hate the Yes voters,I just dont think Kirkby is the right option and I dont think the club have done enougth to explore other avenues prior to creating a ballot on moving. Hey Ho

Gavin Harris
25 Posted 23/08/2007 at 18:52:33

It was an honest video, nothing wrong with that. 51% will get everton the mandate to move to kirby, simple as that.