Some legacy alright! You were doing well until you added an online petition link!

382 Total Signatures

You are doing great mate, keep up the great work ;-)

Question 1 see transfer news

Question 2 See Kirkby

Question 3 Stretfod

Question 4 We are the feeder club for every player we have bought?

Question 5 Interesting one but not enougth for my vote

or you could say that he is the man that helped turn Everton from a struggling premiership team into one that has proven to be capable of breaking into the top 4 without having ridiculous sums of money to splash out every year. He appointed one of the brightest young managers in the game and has helped raise the profile of the club to the point where at last players actually want to sign for Everton agin instead of asking to leave!!!

Or saved the club from almost certain relegation under Peter Johnson.

Probably right about the petition, I can’t think of a single one in the history of mankind that has accomplished anything. I guess it’s a small way of venting my anger at Kenwright.

Probably right about the petition, I can’t think of a single one in the history of mankind that has accomplished anything. I guess it’s a small way of venting my anger at Kenwright.

I’m glad sumone else agrees with me about Kenwright, but I remember a certain Shaun Wyder (who seems to have dissapeared since) who created this petition and basically advertised it on toffeeweb. Well the man just got ripped to shreds for doing it, so wait to see a few more comments like the ones above to come mate!

hahah i wondered how long it would be till some one jumped on the ’get B.K out wagon’

its got very boring.

Christ almighty, I am no Kenwright fan, but we can do without this sort of crap on here. Online petitions! do me a favour. Does that mean everybody who doesnt sign it must be in favour of Kenwright staying? I know, lets hold a ballot to see if he should stay or go, we could get the electoral reform society to oversee the whole thing. But why stop there, next time I am at Goodison debating whether to have a pie or a sausage roll at half time, I might just hold a ballot amongst the rest of the crowd to see which one I should buy. God when will this madness end?

i agreen with u der sean, although i am not kenwrights biggest fan some times i do agree that he has massively transformed this club. and with little money. we are now being named as one of the teams to maybe break into the top 4, along with tottenham, who spent over 40 m this season and the rest over the last 2-3 yrs, and with all the takeovers of newcastle, city etc, i think everton are proving outright that money isnt always the way forward in the premiership as look were we are now, i think there no two ways about it, overall kenwright has done good.
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The petition is a disgrace -
Would people prefer that we spend money like there is no tomorrow and end up like Leeds United?
Peter Johnson started the whole Kings Dock scheme and just like his transfer plans, that was too ambitious and couldn’t get the financial backing to get it off the ground. BK has learned the lessons and come up with a way of getting us a ground-if we vote for it then I believe it will actually happen.
As for Rooney, who cares about the transfer details-the little manc left and we finished 4th and aint looked back since.
Finally we have not been bought out because we are not in an attractive position to investors which one of the main reasons why Bill is trying to get us a ground that will increase income and reduce debts. Then more investment will come.

Kenwright appears to be a liar. It seems like he lies constantly, always has and always will. I don?t like him. That being said whether through luck or judgement we have a)significantly improved our league performance in the last few years compared with where we were in the Johnson era and the latter days of the Moores family. b)We are in a healthier financial position than most clubs.

It may seem as though we are struggling financially but when Johnson first came it seemed as if we were loaded only for us to discover that Johnson had borrowed money rather than given from his pocket. I am assuming that when things go downhill at their respective clubs that the benefactors of Portsmouth, City, West Ham, etc etc will do the same thing Johnson did and leave those teams in big trouble. Bolton for example will probably go the way of Leeds once Sammy Lee completes their descent to the Championship. If we were relegated we have more saleable assests and less debts so we would be better placed to surivive. Therefore there is some merit to having a skin flint liar as the club owner.

i just looked at the ’petition’ and most of it is crap. people just writing crap. some of it is quite humorous

You have to take into consideration that the people who run Toffeeweb are mainly anti Moyes/Kenwright/Kirkby/The World so items posted on here aren’t always indicative of the true fanbase.

If you posted a gushing YES to all of the above thread, then chances are it won’t make it onto the board.

Alan-you are spot on!!

So everything is great, and Kenwright is doing a great job ?

Please name all the trophies we have won under him ?

If finishing 4th suits you then in terms of history you’re supporting the wrong club.

In my eyes we have achieved nothing until I see the Premiership trophy in our cabinet. That is the standard we should expect the Chairman of Everton to aspire to.

You do not need all the money in world to do this, you need the right manager and a Chairman with the correct credentials and ambition. We have none of these and under his reign, nothing is what we will achieve. So what are we waiting for ? Kenwright out.

One more thing, after everything that has been listed above, who can honestly say that they trust Kenwright with the club ?

"Kenwright appears to be a liar. It seems like he lies constatntly, always has and always will. I don?t like him."

How has he lied so much? Other than above what has he done?

I agree he is not perfect but that remark was crazy talk.

Tommy, I’m sorry mate, I had to laugh at this one.

Can you imagine the headlines? "Chairman of Everton forced out. Only managed two European places in past three years after a decade fighting relegation. Bought Johnson, Howard, Lescott, Jagielka, Baines, Fernandes and Yakubu in past twelve months. Just signed Cahill and Arteta to five year contracts. Manager widely regarded as one of the best in the game. Team currently fourth in the Premiership".

Kenwright out? You’re havin’ a laugh!

Tommy, Everton have been very badly run for years, its taking time to stablise the club - dont expect it to happen overnight but we ARE getting better in the grand scheme of things mate.

We’re back in Europe and attracting good quality players for the first time in the modern era. Fact.

Neil - Is that your definition of achievement ?

You have only labelled my point.

It might be good enough for you but it isn’t good enough for me.

Again to everyone, please list all the trophies we have won under him.

Then tell me if you honestly trust him.

Allen please share with us this bias that toffeeweb has how many posts have you had rejected for being pro Kenwright as frankly I don’t believe you,I do admit to having anti Kenwright feelings but not when he first took over I was delighted for him,Sadly when he let us down over the dock ,lied about the fortress and instigated our capitulation of our city to Liverpool it had a marked affect on my opinion of him now whats that chant oh I know Kenwright Out!

When you find us another mug to take over, then come back. Until then, put up and shut up! Bill is the best we have got, for now.....

Tommy, tell me how many teams have won the premiership. Then tell me how many times the most successful team in english football (aka the s###e) have won the premiership.
Then add up all the transfer fees along the way that have been spent searching for the title without success. It aint easy to win anything and to do so you need the right people, time and some luck thrown in. Are we better off now than pre-Kenwright? I think yes.
You disagree, fair enough but I do not think getting rid of him will get us what we all want and that is success for Everton.
By the way- I am supporting the right club-always have always will.

Roy, I havent had any pro Kenwright posts rejected because I havent posted any. My point is that whenever theres an anti Kenwright post, theres ALWAYS a comment at the top from the site admin guys!

what a load of bollocks, why people still use that piece of shit rooney in any argument against the board is a joke, he shit on us in a big way, an should never even be mentioned in the same breath as everton

Shaun,

We have never ever been in danger of doing a Leeds, until now that is.

Moyes has had an average of £3m a year net to spend until the alleged fall out and/or indications that some fans were threatening to turn the vote into a referendum on BK. Suddenly, we are trying to spend £20m on players that just hadn’t been there.

Let’s hope they lenders don’t ask for it back, because then we would be facing doing a Leeds. We haven’t got the money to pay it back.

This club needs investment not ever more debt if it is to progress. A cheap, tacky ground in Kirkby will not change those fortunes.

Spot on Billy!!!!
Completely agree

Correct me if im wrong here, but Kenwright has been on the Everton board in one capacity or another for at least 10 years. What have we won ?

How long do you want to give him ?

Another thing, you trust Kenwright to the hilt after all he has done but you don’t trust the Toffeeweb website when they have done nothing at all. Please explain why ?

Allan and Sean, why do you come on here then? If you believe the people who run Toffeeweb are "anti-The World" why bother coming on here?

Maybe Tommy Coleman is just showing how upset he is that his club are being taken away from him to a retail park. You’re self-righteous attitude really pisses me off. Everyone is perfectly entitled to have a go at Kenwright. I just don’t understand the need to come on here and criticise the people who run this web site.

I come on here to talk about the football team I support, it was merely an observation. The people who run this site ARE anti Kenwright, fact, and they voice their views so I voise mine.

I think Moyes and the current board are doing well. Just my opinion, you’re welcome to yours, doesn’t mean I have to agree with you.

Alan Clarke-
Please point out where I said the people who run toffe web are anti the world.

I come on here because, in my opinion, I do not agree with what Tommy is saying-I thought that was the point of a forum -to have different opinions.
If everybody is entitled to have a go at Kenwright then I think I am entitled to try and defend the guy.

Sean - why did you say " how many teams have won the premiership. Then tell me how many times the most successful team in english football (aka the s###e) have won the premiership."
What is "The Premiership" ? The beginning of football ? Time ?

You only need to look as far as Arsenal to see my point, if they could do it so can we, but never under Kenwright.

The Emirates Stadium is lovely Tommy, have you been? Big comfy seats with a great view, good hot dogs too. I work with a few Gooners and they’re well pleased to have left Highbury now; I grant you they were a bit pissed of at the time but they really like the new ground. Cheer up mate, it aint the end of the world.

Tommy,
Read the post again-I did not tell you how many times they have won it, I asked you how many times they have won it. The answer being none. The point, (which flew over your head), being that if the most successful team in English football have not won the premiership then it can’t be that easy. Also re-inforced by the fact that only Arsenal, Man utd, Chelsea and Blackburn have. Further re-inforced by the fact United have won it 9 times and all with the same manager.
I am simply trying to state that whilst I agree with you that we want to be winning titles, but we have to be realistic and it will take time. We are improving and I think that Bill and David are doing well.

Tommy, I’m worried, are you locked in the past somewhere? Maybe you haven’t noticed, but no-one outside the top 4 have won anything for about the last decade. They have far more money than anyone else, and it has enabled them to become dominant. (Your Arsenal point is frankly ridiculous given their vastly stronger financial position than Everton.)

Does any of this ring any bells?

Being consistently just outside this group represents a major achievement, particularly given the depths to which we descended. And at last now we have a squad of players that might enable us to break into it. So let’s get rid of the people who’ve got us there - sure to help!

Allan - Not forgetting the couple of Titles and FA Cups etc, all without moving out of London.

Now how did they achieve all that ? What do they have that we don’t ? I think it begins with Manager and Chairman.

P.S Don’t reply with ’money’, remember whose job it is to generate money ?

Petitions are a waste of time.....they make many people sympathise with the subject of the petition. At the moment, fans seem to be split about Kenwright and perhaps it’s too early to indict him. I personally would like to see him ousted but if the leak is true, and Kirkby is our fate, then a few years down the road I suspect that there will be sufficient cause to call for his removal. However, by that time I believe he will have sold up and the man who took us into the wilderness will escape the fate he deserves.....but I, for one, will never forget his actions or forgive him.

Just reading the original item itself makes my eyes bleed.

Carry on.

To be fair though Tommy, Liverpool is 43 sq miles and London is over 600 sq miles according to Wikipedia - gonna have to move pretty bloody far to get out of town weren’t they!

They achieved by having the same chairman and manager for 10 years - its called stability, something you’re clearly forgetting.

You’re never going to understand because you’re blinded by the old days and your emotions - at least thats how you come across.

Tommy, on the money thing, did you notice that we bought a couple of players this week? They cost a bit, and apparently they’re not bad.

I agree Tommy,
Arsenal do have a better Chairman and a better manager than we do -would they leave and come to Everton??? I would say no.
Do we have the best chairman and manager that we could probably attract at this point in time????
I think that we do. It is just plain stupidity to say that Kenwright should be forced to leave.
Like Neil wrote in his post-imagine the headlines
"Chairman of Everton forced out. Only managed two European places in past three years after a decade fighting relegation. Bought Johnson, Howard, Lescott, Jagielka, Baines, Fernandes and Yakubu in past twelve months. Just signed Cahill and Arteta to five year contracts. Manager widely regarded as one of the best in the game. Team currently fourth in the Premiership".

Critics of the views of the editors of this site - GROW UP! I personally don’t agree with a lot of their comments BUT they do host a fantastic site (IMHO), which reflects the views only of those fans who are willing to contribute (which may or may not be reflective of the whole fan base). Consequently, why shouldn’t the editors be allowed to express their views? You have the right to reply - or indeed move across to one of the other Everton forums available on the internet.

Exactly, I have the right to reply.

Case closed, thanks.

Alan -
NOBODY IS SAYING THE HOSTS CAN NOT EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS, people are just disagreeing with them.

Why get so worked up about Chairmen anyway? Most of the Chairmen of Premier League clubs are frankly complete wankers. Billionaire crooks, human rights abusers, Bush funders, fat men who walk onto pitches in west London to milk the applause...

Bill certainly has his weaknesses, but we’ve hardly done that badly.

Any case, what I most care about at Everton is what happens ON THE PITCH. We are definitely getting better there, no one can deny it. So why get so worked up about Bill?

I’m with Neil, good points, well made.

Having said that, I fucking hate Coronation Street and the theatre does nothing for me!

Start a petition against Coronation Street?

Seems easy enough to do.

Allan and Neil-good lads agree with you both, COME ON YOU BLUES!

Tommy-its been a cracking couple of hours worth of banter-thank for the platform to do it, COME ON THE BLUES!

It is now time to reach for another Stella Artois and watch the amazinlgy sexy Abi Titmuss in her video shoot for Zoo weekly!

Sean - Liverpool, city of culture 2008! HAhahaha..

"Roy, I havent had any pro Kenwright posts rejected because I havent posted any. My point is that whenever theres an anti Kenwright post, theres ALWAYS a comment at the top from the site admin guys!"

(Allan)

"Another thing, you trust Kenwright to the hilt after all he has done but you don?t trust the Toffeeweb website when they have done nothing at all. Please explain why ?" (Tommy Coleman)

Just a couple of examples I was referring to from this thread alone!!!

I don’t see your point (Alan) I simply pointed out a fact. They ARE anti Kenwright, and like you said, I have the right to comment!

Anyway, enough is enough - I bow out, night kids.

The point was that you seemed to be critical of their RIGHT to express their views (judging by the emphasis). Incidentally, on this point, I don’t agree with the original posting. Despite his obvious failings (and failures)and sometimes cringeworthy outpourings I do believe we could do a hell of a lot worse than Bill(Shinawatra and the potential problems that lay ahead for him,Magnusson and his imaptience with managers, and Cheung who wants to pack his team with his fellow countrymen it seems - to name a few)

How to have a good night’s entertainment, sit in front of your PC, dial up the Toffeeweb site, post an article that’s fairly contentious, light the blue touch paper then sit back and watch
people on the same side bicker and bitch for the next three hours ........ priceless ....

Best response yet....No. 379.’I’ve got Barry Manilow tickets for sale if anybody is interested’. Priceless? Can’t put a value on it! Get this shit to fuck.

I just don’t get the negativity. So many years we have sat and watched a team bordering on relegation, seasons where it has come down to the wire. We have nearly gone down. What we have now is a team that is qualifying for europe, relegation is unthinkable, we are attracting good players, we have a good squad and you are complaining? This is the best everton side in many years and Moyes is doing a great job. I don’t care about the stadium. To me its the name of the team that matters and to me we finally have a team to be proud of so stop whinging!

Before Bill Kenwright came we were always 13-17 position in the league and were are we now? top 6 and playing in Europe!!!

Now we got: Cahill, Arteta, Andy Johnson, Lescott, Howard, Yobo, Baines, Neville and most likely Fernandes and Yakubu. And if the vote is "Yes" in the Ballot we will also get a new stadium and all after Kenwright came!!!

So what are you whineing about??

He is taking us again to the top and all you can do is whine!!!!

The Kirkby deal was just to good to say no to!! Because we don´t have enough money to build a stadium our selves. And he also did this ballot so the people could choose, something that almose no chairman would have done. So it´s in the peoples hands if we go to Kirkby or not!!

Why do you alwayse have to bring up the bad things when there is much more good than bad??

Sorry i foregot to mention David Moyes as one of the people who came eftir Bill got the chairman seat!!

And one other thing!

If we wouldn´t have sold Rooney we wouldn´t have got all this money to build up this team. And also he wanted to go to Manchester so what could Bill do in that?? Should he just have said no and kept him at everton unhappy and then try to sell him 2-3 years later for maybe much smaller amount?? Is it than Bills fault that Rooney wanted to go got Man Utd?

I just can´t understand how you can say something so bad after all this man have done for this club!!!!!!! You are just selfish!

Well, as an Everton supporter of some 25 yrs+ and an avid follower of football in general i’d have to say that i’d take Bill Kenwright over any other chairman in the league. Anyone who says that this great club of ours hasn’t made huge strides in the last few years isn’t worth listening to.

Mark I know we all wear blue glasses but as chairmen go may I suggest a certain Russian chap at Chelsea and the Middlesbrough guy to name two without even thinking

Kieron Kinsella. What are these liesthat you talk of. You can’t announce that someone lies without saying what they lied about. Secondly, Peter Johnson underwrote every signing for EFC. No one puts money into a club, it is not allowed, they can only underwrite it. If Abramovich leaves Chelsea they are really done for as they have debt to pay off that he underwrote.. I personally am happy with the players, manager, chairman and future ground as every
step of the way has been open and honest. Open your mind and you might just agree!

Kenwrights doing a great job!
its taken a while but he does seem to have secured some sort of investment to help push us forward.
He made a great choice in moyes, and the club has become an exciting team to watch once again.

Steve and Gavin since you claim not to know what "lies" Kenwright has told I would like to ask you, What has it been like living on Mars for the last 10 years of your life ? Erm Fortress fund investment, Kings Dock, supposed bids for Kuyt, Owen, Barry Ferguson etc which were rejected and somehow the money we were going to spend on them disappeared also. Basically anyone who was watched Everton at all for the last decade knows that every time the fans start getting pissed with Kenwright that he whips out the smoke and mirrors and bullshits us again. That being said if you had read my entire message you would have seen that despite everything I was being grudgingly pro-BK

As the petition to call for ?Kenwight Out? has attracted nearly 400 votes out of a fan base nearly 100 times that, it must be time for ?Blue Bill? as he used to be called affectionately to consider his position. Has he after all be found out for the lying, cheating, self-motivated, naïve idiot he is alleged by your correspondents to be? Or is he none of those things in truth, but he just can longer put up with the continuous misinformed, unbalanced, libellous accusations made against him. Or by way of third possibility, he is a devoted blue blood, who has watched with justifiable pride at the quiet revolution that has taken over the club?

Well of course it cannot be the third option can it, because we all know we haven?t progressed at all since David Moyes took over. Back in Walter and Archie?s days, the side was brimming with players of the quality of Cahill and Arteta. Back then we had the promise of young players like Gough and Ginola to look forward to. And the constant nagging doubt that we would have to open up a legal dictionary to understand exactly what ?trustees? and administrators are. Oh yes and just a tad more important, how we miss the days when you could open your paper in August to see that your beloved Club are favourites for relegation.

I do not know if Blue Bill visits this website or examines the accumulated support for the petition. I do not know if he is offended by the repeated and serious slurs on his personal character as well as his ability to be Chairman.

But if he does visit then let me say this to him and if he doesn?t let me say it to you. Dotted all around the Premier league there are Chairman who can bank roll short term injections. But if you ask the Thai owner of Man City to complete the verse to ?Pardoe, Pardoe, he?s off to Mexico? or that West Ham bloke to reminisce about a team of Moore, Hurst and Peters, chances are they could not do it.

But ask Bill Kenwright about the Blues of his lifetime, and , yes, he knows his history and it is apparent to me that every time he opens his mouth to speak about Everton, his heart goes ?woo?. I feel confident that he doesn?t care what the Red shite say.

Such blind devotion would be admirable but pointless if the fortunes of the Club were spiralling downwards. But they are not. Quietly and without fuss, we have come back. We are holding on to our better players, leaving memories of Hutchinson, Barmby and ( ha ha) Jeffers behind us. Young players are breaking into the team and now large sums of money are available to add class players to the squad.

Anybody who does not recognise how better things are in this century than they were at the end of the last has the memory of a goldfish, or they weren?t there. But not to worry, Blue Bill?s enemies got number crunchers, spreadsheets, and malevolent suspicion to thrive on.

But in this article you will find no spreadsheets or financial analysis about securitzation. You will find no statistical analysis about goals for/goals against columns. But if as I suspect there are loads of us out there who cringe with embarrassment at the crass and childish accusations against Bill Kenwright which appear on this website, let us attempt to put the record straight. He loves the club and would not harm it. When Roman has sold up Chelski to pay for his alimony, and Tom and Jerry looked elsewhere for another ?franchise? to develop, Blue Bill will still be here because he knows no other way.

And so, I hope will all of us ? wherever that may be. KENWRIGHT IN my friends. If you agree honk your horn as you go past.

What a load of crap, and luckily most Evertonians agree with me. Read the signatutures, most of them are a piss take, hardly any one wants Bill out as under his stewardship we’ve gone from shit to decent. Get a fucking grip man. Do you want Ridsdale in charge?

Rob Paterson:

Fantastic post, spot on.

Bill has his failings for sure, most of those have occurred in the past because I think his heart ruled his head when it came to Everton. Who of us Evertonians can condemn him for that? Besides, I think the glaring mistakes people highlight here were more a product of his naivety in being a club Chairman than a deliberate attempt to deceive fellow Evertonians (the guy’s one of us for Christ’s sake, not an ex-KGB oil gangster or a Thai despot). I think he’s learned a lot quickly over the past few years.

And to those guys who talk about the ’Kenwright Out’ chants, well I must have been taking a wrong turning and going to a different ground to watch my team play because I’ve never heard one.

KENWRIGHT IN!

Kieron. I am sorry that I missed you were actually behind BK. I have read your piece again and can clearly see that you did indeed call him a liar and that he always will be one. Praise indeed. Where are the facts to prove that he is a liar. Can you prove the Fortress fund did not materialise for other reasons, namely the Fortress fund! Can you prove that there was no money when bidding for Kuyt etc. Or could it be that Moyes didn’t get his man so kept hold of his money until he found someone of similar quality. Read Rob Patterson’s piece or get someone to read it to you so you can take it in fully. BK has given his all for our club. Learn the facts before slandering someone who is doing his best for YOU. Must go, the last flight to Mars goes in 2 mins. Hope this reaches you in the land of vitriole.

Kenwright lies, of course he bloody does, he is the chairman of a multi-million pound business. Find me the owner of a company that doesnt lie...if you cant then thats no grounds for dismissal.

Secondly, Man U feeder club??????????????????? please explain this I really dont get it. Phil Neville, Tim Howard and erm...oh thats it. We sold Rooney and..erm..oh yeh no-one else. We signed (hopefully) 6 players this summer, sold/released 4, none of these deals involves Man U. If thats a feeder club arrangement it must be the worst one ever.

Have we won anything under him? Of course bloody not, all that is needed is good management then you win stuff, not really mate, we have a good manager, a very good one. Ask the average objective football fan and Moyes will be in top 5 managers in country on average. No-one outside top-4 has won the FA cup since everton, 2 teams outside top 4 have won league cup in last 7 years and only 3 teams have shared the premiersip between them for 12 years. And you thjink money has nothing to with it, if thats the case then every chairman outside top 4 should be sacked and replaced with...

my next point, ’kenwright out...’ that slogan generally needs an ending. Or do you suggest we sack the chairman and not replace him, or do you want kenwright over-thrown then someone view it a a get-rich quick scheem and buy club for cheap. So who replace the so called ’worst thing that ever happened to the club’ then?

Realise, Everton where seriously messed up. We still are, but are far far better off than 8-9 years ago. If it wasn’t for BK we would have gone into administration, and would have been forever fucked. Probably be in championship or league 1.

Is being a decent european team good enough? bloody hell, of course it isn’t. But we are improving, how will overthrowing the chairman improve the team on the pitch. We have spent 30mil this summer, more than villa and their american ’saviour’, or newcastle and their ’saviour’. People want change because you get bored, when someone new comes in you believe all their promises, realise that stability is the key to success.

P.S. I dont like BK, I think he is a pretentious, arrogant twat, but find me a chairman that is nice, one of the fans. This day in age, the same way footballers are selfish, arrogant, ego-centric greedy twats, you have to accept it. Don’t believe the club is ran on your behalf, or someone else will come in and run it as a club ’for the fans’, or you will never be able to enjoy football, it will never happen, a revolution is required by all clubs for football to develop in this way, and with so much money about, i cant see anyone making the fiirst stance.

Half of the signatures on this thing are pisstakes or duplicates. Good luck when you present that, they’ll laugh in your face.