ToffeeWeb - Season 2007-08

norman merrill
1 Posted 24/08/2007 at 07:01:46

well put John, whatever the outcome of the vote, lets get behind the boys tomorrow night, in what will be a very tough game.

Brian Finnigan
2 Posted 24/08/2007 at 07:21:47

I thought you were leaving Toffeeweb forever!

Brian Finnigan
3 Posted 24/08/2007 at 07:44:44

Quotes from John Charles (14.05 on 23/8/2007).....

"Toffeeweb isn’t taken seriously in most parts of our support"

"Anyway, that’s me done with this pokey, self-serving website"

My response was to comment on how many times this individual posts on Toffeeweb despite holding it in such contempt. Again I say, if you don’t like the company or the ethos of this website go and bore people somewhere else. Incidentally, I hope you have read this morning’s Guardian....the Liverpool and Liverpool Reserves jokes have started already.

Nelly
4 Posted 24/08/2007 at 07:48:26

Without doubt the best post I’ve read throughout the whole stadium debate.....I’ll be there with you John I couldn’t desert the....I love them too much
BORN A BLUE LIVE A BLUE DIE A BLUE !!

Rick (in Lincoln)
5 Posted 24/08/2007 at 09:02:58

Well said, John.

It’s just a pity that the new stadium couldn’t be built in Lincoln. It would make attending matches a whole lot easier for me! :-)

Dan Mckie
6 Posted 24/08/2007 at 09:06:09

If Labour get voted again in the next election does that mean all the Conservative and Lib Dem voters will leave the country? No,as it looks the anti-kirkbys have made a good effort trying but have lost to the majority so its now time to wait and see what happens next!

Matt Geraghty
7 Posted 24/08/2007 at 09:20:53

Well said,
I almost go a tingle down my spine as I read it.

Onwards and upwards, COYB’s!

daveb
8 Posted 24/08/2007 at 09:15:58

Well said John! 4 milles down the road doesnt make the slightest bit of difference! I support Everton and Id keep my season ticket wherever we played (sames goes for every season ticket holder I have spoke to)!! I think a lot people are showing now, the main reason they have been against the move is purely because they are being self centered and are only bothered about getting the piss taken out of them. When we beat the sh#@e 3 0 when we play them next, we will take the piss out of them! We’ll also be able to laugh at their joke of a toilet bowl baseball which will probabally end up with a name like the hotdowg stadium or something!! Get over it!! We are all everton fans and whatever the result is, that is the majority view! Therefore you like it or you lump it!!

daveb
9 Posted 24/08/2007 at 09:15:58

Well said John! 4 milles down the road doesnt make the slightest bit of difference! I support Everton and Id keep my season ticket wherever we played (sames goes for every season ticket holder I have spoke to)!! I think a lot people are showing now, the main reason they have been against the move is purely because they are being self centered and are only bothered about getting the piss taken out of them. When we beat the sh#@e 3 0 when we play them next, we will take the piss out of them! We’ll also be able to laugh at their joke of a toilet bowl baseball which will probabally end up with a name like the hotdowg stadium or something!! Get over it!! We are all everton fans and whatever the result is, that is the majority view! Therefore you like it or you lump it!!

Scott Edwards
10 Posted 24/08/2007 at 09:41:12

As good a post as I’ve read in a long time John.

That’s the reason we will never fade into obscurity as some have stated on this issue. I’m right there with ya no matter where we go!

Well said!!!

Mo
11 Posted 24/08/2007 at 09:44:40

Well said John..
Once a blue ALWAYS a blue no matter where we play.. I’ll follow the blue boys anywhere and everywhere

Whats 4 miles.. Lets stick together and get behind the boys the club we all LOVE !!!

Steve Lyth
12 Posted 24/08/2007 at 09:52:58

With the exception of the honourable Mr Finnigan, I think the rest of you must be kopites.
Crackin infiltration job, you must be so proud of yourselves.

Aragorn the Blue
13 Posted 24/08/2007 at 10:08:48

Hold your ground! Hold your ground!
Sons of Everton, of Goodison, my brothers,
I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me.
A day may come when the courage of men fails,
when we forsake our friends
and break all bonds of fellowship,
but it is not this day.
An hour of wolves and shattered shields,
when the age of men comes crashing down,
but it is not this day!
This day we fight!!
By all that you hold dear on this good Earth,
I bid you stand, Men of the Royal Blue Jersey!!!

Tony Marsh
14 Posted 24/08/2007 at 10:02:24

John you may well of been born an Evertonian and not manufactured
but that was then and this is now.The Everton you greww up with will be dead and buried once we leave for Kirkby.Why cant you see it. You sound pathetic coming out with the born a blue bullshit when the New Everton[Kirkby United] will be a manufactured club with plastic fans.No real scouse Everton supporters want this move so what does that tell you.How can any born Evertonian want to leave thier spiritual home that is the city of Liverpool and think its something to be proud of.John hope you enjoy selling us down the river mate.Even those who couldnt vote but want this move are just as bad as all the other traitor scabs
who have put the nails in our coffin.

Allan
15 Posted 24/08/2007 at 10:25:16

Oh Tony, get over yourself mate, it doesnt matter to the majority of people where we play. Stop acting like a spoilt kid who can’t get his way.

If you dont like it, dont come to games, dont support them anymore - I promise you there’ll be plenty of takers for your season ticket.

Plastic fans my arse, anyone who wants to stop following their team because they cant handle moving with the times is exactly the type of person who’s holding the club back.

The futures bright Tony, the futures moving, to Kirkby or wherever but we have to move, like it or lump it, its time to swallow it.

Up the blues.

Dan Sedlak
16 Posted 24/08/2007 at 10:43:49

59% Yes, 41% No. The turnout was amazingly low - only c25,000 votes.

Dan Sedlak
17 Posted 24/08/2007 at 10:48:55

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/08/24/everton-fans-take-us-to-kirkby-64375-19681975/

We can’t go with the backing of only 15,230 fans.

Allan
18 Posted 24/08/2007 at 10:48:28

Ok good or bad, can we move on now please? : )

Anyone looking forward to tomorrows game? Score? Yakubu? Manny? My Nan?

Dan McKie
19 Posted 24/08/2007 at 10:55:46

Well thats all sorted then (yeah right) and if only 25000 from 35000 voted then obviously 10000 werent bothered either way.

Allan - 3-1 Everton, Yakubu and Manny in so your nan will have to settle for a place on the bench!

ged simpson
20 Posted 24/08/2007 at 11:11:17

Looks like we are a step nearer after the ballot result.

I don’t want it but I will always support them and no other club has balloted.

If you don’t like it that’s sad but DON’T split the fans or we are really finished.

Toffee
21 Posted 24/08/2007 at 11:29:37

I will still go to Kirkby, Cos I am Blue! And i refuse to cut my nose of to spite my face, BUT.... i am very fearful that 10,000 of us will boycott the remaining games this season as well as not fill the new ground to even half its capacity! 15,000 yes votes is not enough to go on, not when 10,000 said no! and 10,000 refused to vote!

They refused beacuse they dont want it in thier conscience that they played a part in this great clubs demise!

I fucking hope and pray to god I am wrong! I hope the place gets packed week in week out! please god!!!

RIP EVERTON ! 1878 - 2007

"it was a grand old team to play for, it was a grand old team to support"

terry fitzsimmons
22 Posted 24/08/2007 at 11:25:20

Well that’s it then -the turkeys have voted for christmas! I suggest that Bill should now reduce the proposed capacity of the new stadium to 25000.But hey,let’s not be bitter! Let’s all get behind the newly formed Kirkby United.

Mike Homfray
23 Posted 24/08/2007 at 11:43:26

I vfoted Yes and I think its the right decision.

But I’m getting really fed up with those who think that all of us in Crosby, Bootle, Auntree, Huyton, Halewood and kirkby don’t live in Liverpool, simply because of the borough boundaries!

John Lloyd
24 Posted 24/08/2007 at 11:56:12

Mike Homfrey, you fucked it then didnt you. On what basis did you vote yes, the finances/investment bullshit that Wyness spouted?? Or cos its more conveniant, nothing to do with city boundaries & thats where you all got it wrong!! If a general election was called and your slip stated Conservative or nothing, would you vote tory without properly exploring all other options, no, only an idiot would. Which is exactly what you have just done!!! If all other possibilities had been explored fully & publicly then we wouldn’t need a vote. It would be crystal clear that this move would be the best for us. You’ve sold your soul & mine , thanks for that you gobshite

Steve Hopkins
25 Posted 24/08/2007 at 12:00:56

Allan....I thought your Nan had moved to villareal as part of the Riquelme transfer or was that some test data that shouldn’t have been??

Seamus Murphy
26 Posted 24/08/2007 at 12:01:11

We have just given the keys of the city to Liverpool FC. I cant believe it, i really cant.

Chris Williams
27 Posted 24/08/2007 at 11:58:34

Why is it assumed that 10,000 refused to vote and that all would vote no? There are probably all sorts of reasons why certain people didn’t vote that we do not know. Surely if they were that worried about the ’demise’ of Everton they would have voted.

TERRYMARSBAR
28 Posted 24/08/2007 at 12:01:37

Tony Marsh:
You sound pathetic coming out with the born a blue bullshit when the New Everton[Kirkby United] will be a manufactured club with plastic fans. ( because Tony and a few of his mates say so.. )

No real scouse Everton supporters want this move so what does that tell you.How can any born Evertonian want to leave thier spiritual home ( Well actually we have the biggest walk up support in the country and the majority voted YES)

Even those who couldnt vote but want this move are just as bad as all the other traitor scabs
( Right I was wrong..not enough people agreed with me..its proof Tony Marsh is a complet tit)

How dare he call anybody a traitor..roll on Kirkby..cos I assume you wont be there Tony..but the MAJORITY will..and your place will be taken by proper supporters , the ones who didnt go the game when dickheads like you were spouting your crap and spoiling it..
You have lost...LOSER

dgf
29 Posted 24/08/2007 at 12:15:37

Bye, Bye Tony
I trust we will not be having to read anymore of your articles comments in future!!!

Have you put your name on the waiting list for a season ticket on the Kop yet?

Sandy Brown
30 Posted 24/08/2007 at 12:16:45

Well, the board have certainly managed to unite the fans on this one haven’t they?

It’s not a matter of being a traitor if you are still fighting the Kirkby move, it’s a matter of sticking up for what you believe in.

I believe Kirkby is a bad move for us, and I probably always will. And I’m not going to pretend otherwise just to keep the lemmings happy.

15,000 out of 35,000 voted to go. I think it’s reasonable to infer that the majority weren’t exactly keen to rush off to Kirkby. The board need to bear that in mind as they pursue this project - the majority didn’t vote yes.

Terrymarsbar
31 Posted 24/08/2007 at 12:48:55

10,000 no votes thats all, the same amount of people who didnt care enough to vote..
Thats out of 35,000...only 10,000 thought it bad enough to tick a box and say no..thats less than a 1/3..
You can twist it anyway..but its still YES

Shaun Kinnair
32 Posted 24/08/2007 at 12:45:31

For : Tony Marsh and John Lloyd.

Guys I voted "NO" but the "YES" won. But I would never verbally abuse a "YES" voter like you just have. Lets learn to accept guys whats happened, I HAVE!!! Were all Evertonians and Everton will always live on, this is a start to a new beginning, not the end. I live 400 yards away from Goodison, so Goodison is in my heart, but I dont mind going 4 or 5 miles down the road to watch them either. It is the peoples club and the people of Everton have voted "YES", I’m hurt but I’ll be there saturday and every other Saturday till the day I die

Phill Toffee
33 Posted 24/08/2007 at 12:59:23

I am absolutely gutted. Sad day for Everton FC.

Dan Brierley
34 Posted 24/08/2007 at 13:03:43

The minority will be just like the so called ’real’ united fans who boycotted the match because the Glaziers took over. Who then subsequently moved on to better things by winning the league.

Sometimes change is a bitter pill to swallow. I dont like moving from Goodison, I have 12 years of fantastic memories. But I appreciate the need for change.

Hugo Kondratiuk
35 Posted 24/08/2007 at 13:01:12

’The club my parents supported, the club I supported and the club my unborn kids will support.’

John, if those unborn kids ever do see the light of day, you’ll find out something that may surprise you: you won’t be the only influence on them.

There will also be their mates, and the telly, and the papers, and five European Cups - all sorts of things, little and big. And (if they live in the city) the huge majority of those things will be influencing them just one way. It’s been increasingly like that for decades, which is why there are not so many Blues now as there were in the 60s. Once we go to Kirkby, common sense says it will be much, much more so. You only have to read today’s papers for a foretaste of what’s to come.

Will you be so sure you did the right thing the day those unborn kids of yours ask for red shirts for Christmas?