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It isn't all Bill's fault!
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I am not a total fan of Bill Kenwright's but I am getting a little fed up of every time something goes wrong at our Club, he gets the blame.
Did anyone read Dave Prentice's article in the Echo on Friday?
One paragraph stood out;
This is despite Everton standing fourth in the formative Premier League table, despite Everton finishing last season in sixth place and qualifying for Europe, despite breaking the club's transfer record three times in three seasons, despite tieing up the club's two most coveted stars on long-term contracts this summer, despite lowering the average age of the squad by seven years in five seasons and despite moving the club to a brand new state of the art training complex.
Surely he has done some good and can't be blamed now for the Fernandes saga.
This player has decided to join Valencia instead of us, pure and simple. We are not one of Europe's top clubs, they are and the player has decided to go there to play Champions League Football, something we can't give him.
We all need to move on and stop playing the blame game. Why is this Bill Kenwright's fault?
Phil James, Posted 28/08/2007 at 15:06:52
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1 Posted 28/08/2007 at 15:36:17
2 Posted 28/08/2007 at 15:28:28
You say: "It’s Bill Kenwright’s fault because he didn’t have the balls or the guts (along with the rest of the Chairmen) to deal with the FA Premier League and get them to address this third-party ownership nonsense"
Everton did all they could to try to get it through and finally when they did FERNANDES turned his mind and signed for Valencia. So how can you say it is Bills fault???
If this rule about third party wouldn´t be in the Premier League like in Spain, Italy, Portugal and more. Then we wold have signed him. So don´t you try to blame this on Bill!!!
He has done so many good things for the club since he came and all you can do is cry!!
Before Bill Kenwright came we where always in the religation battle.. and now when we are in Europe all you can do is cry cry cry and cry more.
Like Phil James said, there are many good things that he has done for the Club, but when something dosen´t go as we would have wanted(Fernandes deal) than you say Bill have to go!
This dosen´t make any bit of sens. In my mind you are not a true blue.
If you hate everything so much about Bill and the club why don´t you just go and support the Redshite or something?
Try once to look at the good things before you only talk about the bad things! Because Bill has done much more good than bad for the club. Or do you thing it´s bad that we are in Europe? Do you just want to go back in time and go to the religation battle like we were when he wasen´t here?
Don´t forget that he brougt Moyes to this club and thats why you just cant only cry about him.
3 Posted 28/08/2007 at 15:40:28
4 Posted 28/08/2007 at 15:42:03
Only after Gonzales went cold did Moyes switch his attention to Fernandes.
So you can’t really blame BK for not getting Fernandes in May.
5 Posted 28/08/2007 at 15:45:29
6 Posted 28/08/2007 at 15:35:57
7 Posted 28/08/2007 at 15:53:06
8 Posted 28/08/2007 at 16:11:18
9 Posted 28/08/2007 at 16:20:38
10 Posted 28/08/2007 at 16:29:05
Evertonians are all over the globe:D
And no we do not live in snow houses hehe.. just answaring some questions that people could ask. And there is much warmer in Iceland than Greenland. Sarcastic isn´t it?
11 Posted 28/08/2007 at 16:42:57
12 Posted 28/08/2007 at 17:00:05
13 Posted 28/08/2007 at 17:02:56
Sorry for the sarcasm, it’s been a bad couple of days. A warm welcome to the mad house that is ToffeeWeb
14 Posted 28/08/2007 at 17:11:09
Michael how is this BK’s fault
thrusday and friday night bk and board worked flat out to press the deal !
Fernandez wanting more money therefore chose Valencia for once BK did the right thing
15 Posted 28/08/2007 at 17:08:50
As for Fernandes, he is a typical modern day footballer, he goes where his advisors and agents tell him to go. Just like anelka and players of his stature. I would rather not have him here if his heart wasnt 100% at everton, im sure moyes and the team are doing everything to bring in additions, nolan is decent, i think we would give us some mroe backbone, just im also not sure4 about the flair side of his game, we would need a different midfielder for that, perhaps pienaar will prove himself!
Nil Satis Nisi Optimum!!!
16 Posted 28/08/2007 at 17:27:09
THE BLAME ONCE AGAIN RESTS FIRMLY WITH EFC and as Michael said the chairman of any organisation must take responsibility.
How many more "mistakes" must this man make before you sheep wake up and see the real picture.He is a dreamer with little money who through his charm and bullshit has managed to live his dream for too many years now.
I really believe we can only progress with a new financially able chairman and competent board.That is something this board is definitely not!!
17 Posted 28/08/2007 at 17:34:09
18 Posted 28/08/2007 at 17:39:51
19 Posted 28/08/2007 at 17:35:48
20 Posted 28/08/2007 at 17:53:31
Moyes the next of the big spenders?
Norman Hubbard
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In the seemingly never-ending midsummer sagas, Carlos Tevez and Gabriel Heinze have dominated the headlines.
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Aiyegbeni Yakubu has been one of the most potent strikers in recent Premier League seasons
Despite the Argentine hegemony, the last of the exits that were anticipated while last season was still more than a memory should eventually be concluded, when a work permit is eventually granted to one of the Premier League’s prolific scorers and a Nigerian goes to Goodison Park. Ayegbeni Yakubu will become the third striker in as many years to become Everton’s record signing, but there is some surprise about his destination.
And not just because of Harry Redknapp’s high-profile admiration of the striker he signed from Maccabi Haifa or the move to Manchester City that many predicted, but because Everton are rarely mention in conjunction with £11.25million buys; it almost doubles the £6million paid two-and-a-half years ago for James Beattie, then their most extravagant purchase.
Moreover, had the attempt to add Manuel Fernandes succeeded, Everton’s expenditure in the final week of the transfer window would have been in the region of £23 million, catapulting them into the league of the big spenders.
The official line is that funds have always been available to David Moyes. Yet he is known for his preference to conclude his business early in any transfer window and earlier signings were more in keeping with the stereotype of frugal Scots and Moyes’ own reputation for astute acquisitions, often from the lower leagues. Leighton Baines and Phil Jagielka, young and (in the case of the latter) versatile, seemed products of the same school of recruitment as Joleon Lescott and Tim Cahill.
More likely is that the extra investment is a consequence of Planet Hollywood founder Robert Earl’s presence on the board, enabling Everton to borrow more. Perhaps it was the sight of their potential rivals for a European place, such as Tottenham, Newcastle and Manchester City, spending like Conrad Black that induced Everton to follow suit.
The decision of Fernandes to spurn Everton to Valencia represented a rapid volte-face on the part of the Portuguese. Yet Everton’s initial bid - and indeed their willingness to up their record signing to £12 million - was a rethink in itself.
Fernandes’ deft footwork and ferocious long-range shooting were showcased in his spectacular goal against Manchester United last season. However, though most observers were impressed with the skilful midfielder, Moyes was believed to have his qualms. In part, that may be because his conception of a central midfielder appears to be based on Lee Carsley and Phil Neville; dependable, battle-hardened, but a flair-free zone. Perhaps that was part of Fernandes’ thinking when he opted for La Liga instead, but without him, Mikel Arteta remains the major source - indeed sometimes the only one - of invention in the midfield.
But as the majority of Moyes’ most successful signings have represented known quantities, whereas Per Kroldrup and Andy van der Meyde, both untried in England, failed, there is an understandable element of conservatism in his choice of Yakubu.
That can be gauged from the facts alone. In the last four seasons, his total of 54 Premiership goals, harvested for Portsmouth and Middlesbrough, is exceeded only by Thierry Henry. Some may claim that it is a distorted statistic as strikers of the calibre of Ruud van Nistelrooy, Didier Drogba, Dimitar Berbatov, Benni McCarthy, Michael Owen and Darren Bent have not had four complete campaigns to challenge the Nigerian, but an average of almost 14 goals per season, albeit inflated by penalties, is more than respectable.
Recent comments from the north-east have struck a sour note, referring to Yakubu’s summer-long quest for a move, his lacklustre display against Wigan in his Middlesbrough farewell and the way his seasons have stalled in the spring on Teesside.
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Andrew Johnson is getting a new partner
Of more relevance to Everton is whether he can dovetail with Andrew Johnson. There are similarities in that both are speedy strikers, though there is no doubt that the Englishman has the better work ethic, while the Nigerian is the more assured finisher. Yet Yakubu’s most effective alliance in England was with Mark Viduka, operating as the quicker foil to a target man.
Meanwhile, Johnson’s two campaigns in the Premier League, first at Crystal Palace and then at Everton, have largely been spent in the splendid isolation that is the sole striker’s lot. He seems to relish the responsibility of leading the line alone, presenting himself as a one-man irritant to dawdling defenders. It suits Everton when Cahill, so expert at the attacking midfielder’s role, is present to supplement the forward line and capitalise on Johnson’s injury.
However, an effective partnership with James Beattie, who shares Yakubu’s muscular build, eluded Johnson. Nevertheless, with only the two teenagers, James Vaughan and Victor Anichebe, as options and even the former injured, there was no doubt of Moyes’ requirement for strikers. The question is whether, when Cahill is fit, Moyes intends to field Yakubu as well as Johnson and, if so, whether the Australian is incorporated in a more adventurous midfield.
So it could herald a more attacking approach remains. Rather than a prolific pairing of expensive strikers, Everton’s attempts to be ’the best of the rest’, like Sam Allardyce’s Bolton, have been based upon their defence. It also entailed considerable continuity and, despite his price tag, Yakubu should be aware that Moyes favours a gradual introduction of newcomers.
Indeed, while Everton were preparing for what could have been the costliest week in their history, they went top of the Premier League, albeit briefly, by dint of their reliance on the tried and tested. In a division sprinkled with exciting signings, Everton recorded victories over Wigan and Tottenham without including any arrivals in their starting XI; indeed, Jagielka played a total of 10 minutes in those two wins.
Now stability has been discarded in favour of ambition as Everton, fresh from stepping up their plans to move to a new ground, are set to unveil, when the home office permit them to, an expensive addition.
The funding may have come courtesy of Planet Hollywood, but Yakubu will add drama to the script of Everton’s season.
21 Posted 28/08/2007 at 17:52:43
22 Posted 28/08/2007 at 17:55:40
23 Posted 28/08/2007 at 18:35:40
24 Posted 28/08/2007 at 18:45:32
25 Posted 28/08/2007 at 18:50:30
I agree that Everton should have made their move for Fernandes in May or June - if we were in a position to do so. Though there’s been much speculation, we’re completely in the dark as to what if anything has changed between then and now. For all we know, Kenwright could be the man who was instrumental in getting us the extra spending money. Until we begin to get the answers to what really happened I for one am not going to rush to judgement.
26 Posted 28/08/2007 at 18:55:19
27 Posted 28/08/2007 at 19:22:01
28 Posted 28/08/2007 at 19:26:09
As for the Fernandes affair,let,s for once lay the blame where it truly belongs,and that is with Fernandes and his agents.If someone gives me his word I take him at face value,and that is exactly what BK and Moyes have done with Fernandes,who turned out to be a lying little shite.
Right up to him leaving Goodison on Saturday EVERYONE expected him to sign for us.I,m convinced that BK did all he could to make the deal a reality and the blame lies squarely at someone elses door but certainly not at his.
It would be in the interests of football in general if this third party ownership issue was addressed by and hopefully banned by FIFA.
29 Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:07:42
The NO voters, the conspiracy theorists, the naysayers & doomsday merchants (inc the TW editors)!.. What is that you want out of this club of ours?! In case its escaped your notice, we are not a TOP club anymore (but we are slowly making progress in the right direction!)
Point 1.Manny & Agents.. Valencia are a G18 club without the constraints of lesser clubs and of course without the constraints re: 3rd party ownership of players in La Liga, also they only own half of Manny for £10m so his agents can make a fortune on the next transfer... (remember the role of the agents in the Rooney affair!) Your club played it honest and upfront and got sold down the river by the agent and more to the point Manny himself who is either too thick to run his own affairs and has no mind of his own or he is just downright dishonest and dishonourable.. either way, get off the clubs back..it has done nothing wrong at all..
Point 2. The ground move.. again the club have done nothing dishonest or underhand, you asked for a vote, you got the vote, you even had the company who is providing most of the funding for the stadium explain itself!(I think you’ll find that most unusual business practise..never mind actually getting a vote on the matter! you got beat fair and square, take it on the chin and move on..
Pont 3. We know the club has been mismanaged since the early 70’s and we know BK has mismanaged the club along the way too.. however, he and his management team have brokered a deal which could not only lead to securing top flight football for the forseeable future but could even turn us back into the mighty force we once were!.. Nobody else has raised a finger to help the club (because if there had been it would have been splashed all over the media by the company/person wishing to take the club over!) see MU, Lfc, Mcfc , Nufc, Cfc takeovers, and AFC proposed takeover)!
Point 4. If you no longer have faith in the board & your fellow supporters then do the honourable thing, return your season tickets (those who have them), stop going to the games and setup your own club like the disgruntled but honourable supporters of FC United & AFC Wimbledon. You never know, you may make as good a job of it as the last lot that split from Everton..(I’ll let you work the name of that club out for yourselves)..
And finally... the meaning of the letter title... If you think that the YES voters & the NO voters who have graciously accepted the decision & the non conspiracy theorists & ordinary supporters of this club are going to stand idly aside whilst you try to undermine this great club of ours.. I think you’ll find yourselves in for one heck of a battle against those that support this club, WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED from protecting this club from those that seek to destroy it...BECAUSE BELIEVE ME, with the constant bile, misinformation, conspiracy theories etc etc, all YOU do is undermine the very fabric of the club..
IT IS TIME TO TAKE SIDES...
DO YOU CHOOSE TO PROTECT YOUR CLUB!
Vote YES: if you continue to support but ask questions of the club without accusing them of being dishonest and show respect to your fellow supporters...OR
Vote NO: if you think the whole management of the club is rotten to the core and the supporters with an opposite opinion to yours count for absolutely nothing.
30 Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:55:14
31 Posted 28/08/2007 at 22:19:40
I vote YES. Well said mate, well said.
32 Posted 29/08/2007 at 00:02:20
Yes. Chelsea had a work permit turned down for Alex, and had to appeal, which they won. Man Utd had one turned down for Anderson, and won the appeal. If they have not played 75% of matches in the last two years, the work permit WILL be turned down, and an appeal hearing is normally convened, where a tribunal panel will decide whether to overrule. This happens whoever applies for the permit, it’s not a big club/small club thing.
33 Posted 29/08/2007 at 09:22:43
The Fernandes deal is gutting, but let's be straight; if someone is going to turn their back on the club like he has done after agreeing deals, shaking hands, and even training with the boys then is that the type of PERSON we want playing at the club? Great player but attitude stinks. And let's get one thing straight it was the Premier League dithering that cost us, NOT DM and BK.
And finally, we hopefully have Yakubu (work permit holding things up here NOT DM & BK) and still the people wanting a top-class striker etc etc for the past so many months are now saying Yakubu is not the type of player we want and is a waste of money. Well have a look at his record that says everything you need to know. As for the price would you have rather had Bent for £16 Million???

