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Bring back mad dog!!!
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Amidst all the gnashing of teeth about Manny's defection, it seems blindingly obvious to me that now is the time to bring the prodigal son, Tommy Gravesen, back into the fold. He is available, loves the club and is only 32 years old. He is exactly the sort of playmaker we need. If nothing else it would buy Moyes a bit of time to find a younger, long term alternative!
Gareth Hughes, Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:17:07
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Tommyg
2 Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:42:14
2 Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:42:14
I agree..bring back Tommy G..no.. not me.. the other baldy one!!
at least until January window opens..
He’d be great to being on from the bench.. The one thing he always did was make an impact on a game..
at least until January window opens..
He’d be great to being on from the bench.. The one thing he always did was make an impact on a game..
Danny Broderick
3 Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:45:53
3 Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:45:53
I would love him back. I couldn’t help notice against Blackburn that the team had no real characters to get the crowd going, like Tommy or, to a lesser extent, Big Dunc. We could probably get him for around a million, which would be great value - bring him back...
Tony Miller
4 Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:41:18
4 Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:41:18
No please do not bring back Gravesen. He cannot get in the Celtc team and should not and would not get in ours. We had the best out of hin but that only lasted for 6 months and then he moved on.
Is he an attacking midfielder who would push Tim out of the starting eleven. Is he a craetive midfielder who can step in for Arteta. I would suggest he is none of the above and would not even get in ahead of Carsley.
He had his time here Moyes had an option to buy didn’t take it and I agree with that decision.
If you look through blue tinted glassess maybe otherwise please NO!!!
Is he an attacking midfielder who would push Tim out of the starting eleven. Is he a craetive midfielder who can step in for Arteta. I would suggest he is none of the above and would not even get in ahead of Carsley.
He had his time here Moyes had an option to buy didn’t take it and I agree with that decision.
If you look through blue tinted glassess maybe otherwise please NO!!!
Dutch Schaffaer
5 Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:46:20
5 Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:46:20
Graveson is long past his best. If he wasn’t good enough for Real Madrid and Celtic why would we want him?
Lets be fair Mad Dog on his day was outstanding but he could also have games where he disappeared completely.
Moyes managed to get the best out of him for a few months and how did Mad Dog repay us? He fucked off first chance he got.
Lets not go back. Surely Moyes can find an up and coming young midfielder with a touch of craft and flair.
Lets be fair Mad Dog on his day was outstanding but he could also have games where he disappeared completely.
Moyes managed to get the best out of him for a few months and how did Mad Dog repay us? He fucked off first chance he got.
Lets not go back. Surely Moyes can find an up and coming young midfielder with a touch of craft and flair.
Rob Paterson
6 Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:45:29
6 Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:45:29
Do you know that wild wacky thought came to me as I slowly started to wake up this morning. I thought it was the onset of senility but then it gradually began to make sense. He would work well with Arteta and would bring much needed character into the midfield. And we’d get him for the price of the stamp duty on the Fernandez contract
tom potts
7 Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:50:27
7 Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:50:27
tommy is what we need to become a top team in the short term. i was upset when tommy went to real so i would like him to come back
up the blues!!!!
up the blues!!!!
Brian Waring
8 Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:56:12
8 Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:56:12
No,no,no,no and no!
Danny Broderick
9 Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:57:03
9 Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:57:03
Dutch, Tommy had the chance to join Real Madrid, arguably the biggest club in the world. You can’t hold it against him for going there. Tommy would be great, if only for the squad.
Allan
10 Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:58:40
10 Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:58:40
Don’t panic Mr Mainwaring!!!
Dutch Schaffaer
11 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:04:06
11 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:04:06
Danny Broderick, news flash, Everton are the best most incredible club in the world and any player chosing another club over us is a fucking idiot and doesn’t deserve to play for our great club.
steve
12 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:08:53
12 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:08:53
can someone help me on this one just had tele tex on and it said on everton club call london star everton bound can anyone please tell me who that could be?
Brian Finnigan
13 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:11:38
13 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:11:38
No idea who the mystery man is but I bet he will either be big or hardworking or both.....not sure his skill factor is of any importance to our Manager. I will bet he is not as good as Fernandes.
harj
14 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:11:26
14 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:11:26
club call full of shite- they only want you to ring so they make ££££££’s
all I say is give VDM a few gamed to hopefully find his form and maybe that is the answer- he and Baines on the ledt midfield could really work !!!!
all I say is give VDM a few gamed to hopefully find his form and maybe that is the answer- he and Baines on the ledt midfield could really work !!!!
Danny Broderick
15 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:12:28
15 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:12:28
Dutch,news flash for you, Tommy G is not an Everton fan like you or me. He is a footballer, and like any working professional, wanted to get to the top of his profession. I can’t blame him for going to play for Real as he reached his 30s, to play with Ronaldo, Beckham, Zidane etc. He might never have got the chance again.
That doesn’t mean he didn’t love Everton, just that he got an opportunity he couldn’t turn down. I am sure he would jump at the chance of coming back, and, among many others, I would love to have him back.
That doesn’t mean he didn’t love Everton, just that he got an opportunity he couldn’t turn down. I am sure he would jump at the chance of coming back, and, among many others, I would love to have him back.
thomas gravesen
16 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:17:23
16 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:17:23
aye I’m on my way can’t wait to team up with my old buddies cars stubbsie Ill have a word with Dunc see if he’ll turnout for us while i’m at it why dont I give the rest of the ex everton players a ring looks like we need all the help
steve
17 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:18:52
17 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:18:52
i love to se wright philips at everton or joe what does everyone elsethink of this?doesanyone think we sign amidfeild before the deadline?i think there might be something happening for us on the transfer front tomorrow
Andy
18 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:21:00
18 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:21:00
i would be very disappointed if we signed gravesen back, he only really showed us six months of decent football out of his 4 year stay, we can do much better than him and i expect signings to be better than gravesen.
jayharris
19 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:26:00
19 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:26:00
Steve
it may be papa Dioup but there again with Billy Bullshit it may be papa Xmas.
it may be papa Dioup but there again with Billy Bullshit it may be papa Xmas.
Danny Broderick
20 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:27:33
20 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:27:33
The player on club call might be Papa Diop of Fulham? He’s looking to move, Moyes has been linked with him in the past and Sanchez is willing to listen to offers. And we need a midfielder now we have missed out on Fernandes...
mark-chester
21 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:20:03
21 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:20:03
Please no!!!! Not graveson, we are meant to be moving forward not backwards.
Granted, he was great in flashes for us, but that was a different time and he not the player he was, his career is winding down now.
I would rather we not sign any midfielder than bring him back, we should be setting our standards way higher than that, FFS!!!!!
As for Nolan, i would have him as a fringe player for maybe 1.5m, but no way is he good enough to wear the blue jersey for a number of reasons!!
1. He is average
2. He is a red shite
3. He can only play with the long ball tactics.
4. He is a poor version of Cahill.
Granted, he was great in flashes for us, but that was a different time and he not the player he was, his career is winding down now.
I would rather we not sign any midfielder than bring him back, we should be setting our standards way higher than that, FFS!!!!!
As for Nolan, i would have him as a fringe player for maybe 1.5m, but no way is he good enough to wear the blue jersey for a number of reasons!!
1. He is average
2. He is a red shite
3. He can only play with the long ball tactics.
4. He is a poor version of Cahill.
Graham Nolan
22 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:33:39
22 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:33:39
Not Gravesen, please. He is not a playmaker. We are supposed to be moving forwards not backwards.
steve
23 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:31:42
23 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:31:42
i honestly think cahill a better player than fernandes.hope it wright philips he will fit in a treat at everton.something else what will happen to our club soon we will be taken over
blue boy brad
24 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:41:23
24 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:41:23
what a complete cock up by everybody behind the scenes at everton regarding the whole fernandes situation,a handshake nowadays means jack.he was overated anyway.get a midfield enforcer in who scares the life out of teams,diop is not only big and scary but he can play too,lets leave graveson and fernandes in the past and move forward.
Robbie Kirkham
25 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:49:18
25 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:49:18
Not Gravesen one of the most overated players i’ve ever seen
Connor Roher
26 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:53:50
26 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:53:50
Steve Cahill is nowhere near a better player than Fernandes. Dont kid yourself lad.
mike benjamin
27 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:55:14
27 Posted 28/08/2007 at 21:55:14
the london star is probably the fulham lad....papa boupa diop (or whatever). Just what we need, a bit of physical presence instead of a midget!
steve
28 Posted 28/08/2007 at 22:06:07
28 Posted 28/08/2007 at 22:06:07
ok but hes no way better than arteta fernandes no one can argue with that i just heard that diarra is strongly linked with everton andadeal could def be on the cards
stevie b
29 Posted 28/08/2007 at 22:21:37
29 Posted 28/08/2007 at 22:21:37
Diarra would be an excellent signing,Diop also
Roy coyne
30 Posted 28/08/2007 at 22:23:43
30 Posted 28/08/2007 at 22:23:43
NO we dont want tommy G he is over rated he only came good towards the end of his contract when he was aware that if he wanted another contract or decent club he had to improve,and left us fighting for Europe he didn’t consider us only himself,Nolan has already spoke in interviews about being a red and would never play for us so no way should we give him the chance to snub us
john martin
31 Posted 28/08/2007 at 22:36:18
31 Posted 28/08/2007 at 22:36:18
the london boy could be Jermaine Jenas haha
What
32 Posted 28/08/2007 at 22:37:49
32 Posted 28/08/2007 at 22:37:49
you must all be f*ckin joking!!!! he was never that good anyway.turn up once every 5 games!! talk about 1 step forward 3 tseps back. get a grip boys. hes shite!!
steve
33 Posted 28/08/2007 at 22:39:22
33 Posted 28/08/2007 at 22:39:22
diarra is one of the favourite names what has come up and it looks really promising about him could it well be him what club call was saying about london star everton bound its starting to add up a little now
Keith Harrison
34 Posted 28/08/2007 at 22:42:48
34 Posted 28/08/2007 at 22:42:48
Has anyone seen Allan’s Nan ????
stevie b
35 Posted 28/08/2007 at 22:41:54
35 Posted 28/08/2007 at 22:41:54
How about Giles Barnes at Derby,would allow us to play Ossie on the right & Mikky through the middle,would also allow us to make a bid for someone like Papa Diop.
Keith Harrison
36 Posted 28/08/2007 at 22:45:51
36 Posted 28/08/2007 at 22:45:51
Or Dave Lynch witha bottle of Haveys for that matter ???
Keith Harrison
37 Posted 28/08/2007 at 22:47:43
37 Posted 28/08/2007 at 22:47:43
I wouldn’t sign that Diahorreah, he’s shite !!!!!!
steve
38 Posted 28/08/2007 at 23:05:21
38 Posted 28/08/2007 at 23:05:21
just heard everton to make a bid for kevin nolan for 5million
Kevin Sparke
39 Posted 28/08/2007 at 23:05:47
39 Posted 28/08/2007 at 23:05:47
Boy some of you guys have got short memories!
Graveson was shite for 2/3rds of his last spell at Everton, he hardly set the world alight in semi-retirement in Scotland.
Why on Earth would you want him back now?
Graveson was shite for 2/3rds of his last spell at Everton, he hardly set the world alight in semi-retirement in Scotland.
Why on Earth would you want him back now?
Keith Harrison
40 Posted 28/08/2007 at 23:04:34
40 Posted 28/08/2007 at 23:04:34
Am I the only one left on here ????
A little ditty to keep myself amused methinks.
Please release me, let me go,
Allan’s Nan don’t love me any mo,
Today she found a Dave Lynch new,
So I’ve been the Carlisle match with Stu.
Please release me, yes be bold,
With Dave, his Harveys and Spice Old,
Nils Satis Nisi Optimum,
For I now love your daughter, Allan’s mum.
A little ditty to keep myself amused methinks.
Please release me, let me go,
Allan’s Nan don’t love me any mo,
Today she found a Dave Lynch new,
So I’ve been the Carlisle match with Stu.
Please release me, yes be bold,
With Dave, his Harveys and Spice Old,
Nils Satis Nisi Optimum,
For I now love your daughter, Allan’s mum.
Keith Harrison
41 Posted 28/08/2007 at 23:14:22
41 Posted 28/08/2007 at 23:14:22
Steve, for £5 mill that better include his sisters.
Connor Rohrer
42 Posted 28/08/2007 at 23:24:32
42 Posted 28/08/2007 at 23:24:32
Steve I disegree I think Fernandes will be better than Arteta. What you have to remember is Fernandes is only 21 whereas Arteta is 25. Fernandes had all the technical ability and skill as Arteta aswell as more pace and a lot more strength.
Keith
43 Posted 28/08/2007 at 23:33:38
43 Posted 28/08/2007 at 23:33:38
Regardless of whether Fernandes will be better than Arteta - it is pretty academic. We will never get him now, so need to move on and get another ball playing midfielder to complement Mikky.
Stephen Appiah or similar would do me.
Stephen Appiah or similar would do me.
Rich P
44 Posted 28/08/2007 at 23:25:48
44 Posted 28/08/2007 at 23:25:48
Even when Grav was inconsistent he was still by far our most creative player. The Opta stats in his last season or so with us were amongst the top 10 of midfielders in the premiership. Not too different from where Arteta’s were last season.
He went from being the big dog crowd favourite with us to being a tiny fish amongst hollywood all-stars. He appears to be an ego player. He was also played in the holding role there.
I have no idea why he hasn’t ripped up the SPL. But for £1-2m he would at least be a midfield player with the potential to get hold of a game and bring some creativity. We don’t have enough of that sort of player on the bench.
Fuck it, I just want him back for his humour and his slap head.
He went from being the big dog crowd favourite with us to being a tiny fish amongst hollywood all-stars. He appears to be an ego player. He was also played in the holding role there.
I have no idea why he hasn’t ripped up the SPL. But for £1-2m he would at least be a midfield player with the potential to get hold of a game and bring some creativity. We don’t have enough of that sort of player on the bench.
Fuck it, I just want him back for his humour and his slap head.
Dave Lynch
45 Posted 28/08/2007 at 23:51:00
45 Posted 28/08/2007 at 23:51:00
She prefers real men Harrison.
You don’t fit the criterea.
off to bed now i’m nackered.
Nite boys.
You don’t fit the criterea.
off to bed now i’m nackered.
Nite boys.
Keith
46 Posted 29/08/2007 at 00:05:44
46 Posted 29/08/2007 at 00:05:44
You cheeky ladies hole !!! Take up cudgels again tomorrow mate.
Night.
Night.
steve
47 Posted 29/08/2007 at 00:04:12
47 Posted 29/08/2007 at 00:04:12
no way fernandes will be better than arteta to some of you on here that fernandes is so wonderfull but he isent i cant belive what im hearing that fernandes will be better than artea to me areta is world class and he will come close to fotballer of the year award to
steve
48 Posted 29/08/2007 at 00:18:51
48 Posted 29/08/2007 at 00:18:51
ok kissock will be better than fernandes he is only 17 look how good he is all ready when fernandes is 21
Rob Paterson
49 Posted 29/08/2007 at 00:15:41
49 Posted 29/08/2007 at 00:15:41
Fernandez would have been the icing on the cake. The cake is Arteta and Cahill. I like cake. I like cake with icing. But I hate icing on its own. Enough of the cake metaphor. Let’s not get carried away about this. Fernandez is a very skilful player but his performances have been patchy. He hardly set the world alight at Portsmouth, and although he had a great game v. Arsenal he was largely anonymous v. the Mancs until the goal. Cahill may be lacking in the circus stuff, but over a season he will win many more points for a club. As for Arteta, if you think Fernandez is or ever will be better than him, you haven’t been watching. Case closed amigos.
Tony Miller
50 Posted 29/08/2007 at 00:42:55
50 Posted 29/08/2007 at 00:42:55
Rob P.
My feelings exactly in addition to be a truly great player you have to show some loyalty to the club. I believe Arteta has shown that to date.
Can the same be said about Manny not only in relation to us but also Benfica.
Probably a good player yes, better than Artera No.
My feelings exactly in addition to be a truly great player you have to show some loyalty to the club. I believe Arteta has shown that to date.
Can the same be said about Manny not only in relation to us but also Benfica.
Probably a good player yes, better than Artera No.
Nick Bird
51 Posted 29/08/2007 at 00:39:37
51 Posted 29/08/2007 at 00:39:37
One thing i?ve learnt is never listen to bloody clubcall. Its just a bunch of idiots that start rumours so that you phone up and waste your money. Although I do find myself hoping that some of it is true.
kieran Kinsella
52 Posted 29/08/2007 at 01:35:26
52 Posted 29/08/2007 at 01:35:26
Yeah lets bring Graveson back because we always do well when we give people who walked out on us a second chance like Andy King, Peter Beagrie,Nyarko, Francis Jeffers, Howard Kendall as manager ....... or perhaps not. Personally I think Grav can stew in the Celtic reserves and make John Sivebaeks life as his agent completely miserable which would be just desserts for that SOB unsettling him at Everton to begin with.
Andy Baker
53 Posted 29/08/2007 at 07:34:51
53 Posted 29/08/2007 at 07:34:51
Bring back Grav? Why he was fuckin shite for 3 years while we played 4-4-2 and with Yak soon to be arriving we aint gonna be aplyin 4-5-1 are we which we all know is the only time he actually done something. Plus the fact that its a massive backwards step. No not for me
Steve Claringbold
54 Posted 29/08/2007 at 07:51:29
54 Posted 29/08/2007 at 07:51:29
BRING BACK MICKAEL MADAR, BAKAYOKO AND JOHN SPENCER.
THAT WOULD BE THE ICING ON THE CAKE.
THAT WOULD BE THE ICING ON THE CAKE.
Pistol
55 Posted 29/08/2007 at 07:40:40
55 Posted 29/08/2007 at 07:40:40
Gravesen - NO! Real Madrid signed the wrong baldy headed Everton midfielder when they took a punt on Mad Dog. Carsley was the one in form at the time who put a shift in every week and made up for Tommy disappearing out of matches for long spells. His passing was often rank as well. Forget him.
Forget Diop as well. Not what we need unless the Dogs of War are to reappear. Craft, flair and style are what is needed. Also we do not need another player who will be lost to the African Nations Cup in Jan / Feb next year along with Yobo, Yak, Pienaar & possibly Anichebe.
Nolan - too like Cahill. I wouldve taken Barton ahead of Nolan.
I hate to say it but we might need to regroup and hang fire until January. I like everyone else sees the chronic need for a quality midfielder NOW! to take the pressure of Arteta but lets face it, its not going to happen in 3 days is it?
We completely messed up with Fernandes and now we have to reap what we’ve sown. The world and his wife know we have the cash as well so expect prices to go up a few mil for each no mark we’re linked with. Bolton would be looking £7m+ for Nolan based on tha fact West Ham paid the same for the original mercenary, Parker.
Stick the wedge in the pocket Davy. No panic buys! We wanted Gonzalez, Fernandes was our contingency. There is no contingency for Fernandes.
And don’t waste your hard earned on those joke Clubcall phone lines. Have they got a mole in each club who has the managers ear? Unlikely methinks. Its a big fucking scam.
Forget Diop as well. Not what we need unless the Dogs of War are to reappear. Craft, flair and style are what is needed. Also we do not need another player who will be lost to the African Nations Cup in Jan / Feb next year along with Yobo, Yak, Pienaar & possibly Anichebe.
Nolan - too like Cahill. I wouldve taken Barton ahead of Nolan.
I hate to say it but we might need to regroup and hang fire until January. I like everyone else sees the chronic need for a quality midfielder NOW! to take the pressure of Arteta but lets face it, its not going to happen in 3 days is it?
We completely messed up with Fernandes and now we have to reap what we’ve sown. The world and his wife know we have the cash as well so expect prices to go up a few mil for each no mark we’re linked with. Bolton would be looking £7m+ for Nolan based on tha fact West Ham paid the same for the original mercenary, Parker.
Stick the wedge in the pocket Davy. No panic buys! We wanted Gonzalez, Fernandes was our contingency. There is no contingency for Fernandes.
And don’t waste your hard earned on those joke Clubcall phone lines. Have they got a mole in each club who has the managers ear? Unlikely methinks. Its a big fucking scam.
Steve Claringbold
56 Posted 29/08/2007 at 08:25:48
56 Posted 29/08/2007 at 08:25:48
Pistol,
Totally agree with you, one clubcall phoneline for Everton said on it’s headlines today £20 Million international player to sign today.
Another said: German Wunderkid to sign. All for £1.50 a minute and signing up to further text messages at £2.00 a pop.
All bollocks, I’m gonna set my own up, I’m in the wrong job.
Totally agree with you, one clubcall phoneline for Everton said on it’s headlines today £20 Million international player to sign today.
Another said: German Wunderkid to sign. All for £1.50 a minute and signing up to further text messages at £2.00 a pop.
All bollocks, I’m gonna set my own up, I’m in the wrong job.
Colin Malone
57 Posted 29/08/2007 at 11:36:22
57 Posted 29/08/2007 at 11:36:22
I,d rather have papa smurf than Grav back.
Nick Whitham
58 Posted 29/08/2007 at 11:58:30
58 Posted 29/08/2007 at 11:58:30
Papa Smurf does have great team leadership skills and would get into most Champions League teams. Dont know if we could afford the wages though.
Steve Claringbold
59 Posted 29/08/2007 at 12:07:07
59 Posted 29/08/2007 at 12:07:07
What about Uncle Bulgaria?
I’ve heard he’s a good sweeper.
I’ve heard he’s a good sweeper.
Connor Rohrer
60 Posted 29/08/2007 at 13:53:09
60 Posted 29/08/2007 at 13:53:09
I agree Steve Arteta is a quality player but world class he is not. Why did he go missing against the likes of Arsenal, Liverpool, Man utd and Chelsea? Because those players read the way he plays and mark him out the game no problem. I am not saying Fernandes is world class either but he has more to his game than Mikky. They both have excellent technical ability and skill but Fernandes was a lot stronger and quicker.
Dont get me wrong I would rather have Arteta than Fernandes because he is at our club and is our player. But Fernandes in two to three years will be a better player.
Dont get me wrong I would rather have Arteta than Fernandes because he is at our club and is our player. But Fernandes in two to three years will be a better player.
Roy coyne
61 Posted 29/08/2007 at 14:08:51
61 Posted 29/08/2007 at 14:08:51
Sadly true Connor,we will never get the chance to buy a player of Mannys class again Bill &co blew it .The least Kenwright should do is take Steve Claringbold and Keith Harrision to rehab at the priory
The Keith
62 Posted 29/08/2007 at 16:44:57
62 Posted 29/08/2007 at 16:44:57
The Priory????? Its Betty Ford or bust for us Cumbrians mate!!!!
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1 Posted 28/08/2007 at 20:39:26