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New Stadium wish-list
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Before we know it, we are likely to have a new stadium. Now is the time, before the final details are agreed, to put together a fans' wish-list for the club and designers to consider. As a starter for 10, I have included below a few things I'd like to see during my matchday experience:
- An EFC visitor centre including the David France Collection
- Dixie Dean's statue at the head of a tree-lined walkway leading to the ground
- An entrance framed with brick St Domingo Towers
- EFC sports bars with comfortable seating, carpets, good quality food... and no queues!
- "Stations of the Cross"-style points around the ground forecourt commemorating glorious EFC events/players/etc.
Vincent Lysaght, Posted 05/09/2007 at 13:08:13
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Col Wills
2 Posted 05/09/2007 at 14:38:57
2 Posted 05/09/2007 at 14:38:57
how’s about a statue to our legendary goalscorer Yakubu- ’50 goals in the title winning 07-08 season’ (although they’ll have to melt down a ship to have enough metal for him)
Seamus Murphy
3 Posted 05/09/2007 at 14:53:46
3 Posted 05/09/2007 at 14:53:46
Excellent suggestions Vincent. The Dixie Dean one especially. You should send your suggestions in to the club (not that they’d probably listen but worth a go nonetheless)
Tony Marsh
4 Posted 05/09/2007 at 14:51:54
4 Posted 05/09/2007 at 14:51:54
Hmm a Tree lined walk way.What will the customers of Carpet world and Mcdonalds think about that?Then theres the Tesco shoppers we cant disturb those people.I think you are forgetting we are going to be slap bang in the middle of a retail park mate there wont be any room for the things you desire.For a glimpse in to our future check out the JJB in Wigan. Its Horrible and make no mistake thats what we will be getting in Kirkby.
Gerard Madden
5 Posted 05/09/2007 at 15:08:16
5 Posted 05/09/2007 at 15:08:16
I can’t see every new stand being named after some company or other so how about a ’Goodison End’ as the main ’home’ end in memory of our soon to be departed old lady.
The Dixie Dean statue leading up to the Dixie Dean Main stand would be fantastic. I’m glad the debate has moved onto ground like this now the vote is over.
The Dixie Dean statue leading up to the Dixie Dean Main stand would be fantastic. I’m glad the debate has moved onto ground like this now the vote is over.
Blake Dutton
6 Posted 05/09/2007 at 15:11:23
6 Posted 05/09/2007 at 15:11:23
A few points...
1. A visitors center? in a town of 40k. We are throwing away the rest of our history, why bother with some collection picked out of a skip.
4. Can?t see the queues being a problem longterm.
How about...
6. A stadium less than 8 miles from our city centre for a start.
1. A visitors center? in a town of 40k. We are throwing away the rest of our history, why bother with some collection picked out of a skip.
4. Can?t see the queues being a problem longterm.
How about...
6. A stadium less than 8 miles from our city centre for a start.
vin bleu
7 Posted 05/09/2007 at 15:18:31
7 Posted 05/09/2007 at 15:18:31
Hmmm... I see some people have not moved on yet. I suspect the decision has been made to move. Why not now accept and embrace change, wherever we move to and envisage our future. It’s got to be better than the negative bitter arguments of late.
Shaun Brennan
8 Posted 05/09/2007 at 15:32:26
8 Posted 05/09/2007 at 15:32:26
I like the stations of the cross one.
We can have Kenright as Judas. Collecting his 30 pieces of silver.
I know thats not actually on the stations of the cross before someone tells me off. But thought i’d get it in there.
God bless and go forth my son.
We can have Kenright as Judas. Collecting his 30 pieces of silver.
I know thats not actually on the stations of the cross before someone tells me off. But thought i’d get it in there.
God bless and go forth my son.
Dean
9 Posted 05/09/2007 at 15:37:26
9 Posted 05/09/2007 at 15:37:26
Brick St domingo towers! I’d have one at each corner of the ground
john mcmullan
10 Posted 05/09/2007 at 15:36:18
10 Posted 05/09/2007 at 15:36:18
Shaun. I know what you are saying so don’t worry. Just when it looks as if we will have to accept the pending move to Kirkby unless someone can pull something out of the hat at the last minute it would be in the best interests of the club to allow the supports some say in the design of the proposed new stadium and surrounding area. You suggested KW how about the head of that garbage Tony Marsh that likes to put his miserable two cents worth in for everything even this light hearted thread. Thought he had been banned from this column.
Rob F
11 Posted 05/09/2007 at 15:51:46
11 Posted 05/09/2007 at 15:51:46
a statue of bk wrestling nedd ludd
dedicated to ’those with the foresight to vote ’yes’’.
dedicated to ’those with the foresight to vote ’yes’’.
Stephen Boileau
12 Posted 05/09/2007 at 16:03:37
12 Posted 05/09/2007 at 16:03:37
I completely agree with Marsh on this. You lot really dont get it. You think this stadium is going to be any good. It’ll be a lonely thing on a retail park. It’ll have no walkways, red carpets, statues etc. These things take away valuable parking spaces for the companies that are renting the units. Our ground will look like a few of these units stuck together. I used to go past the JJB on the train going to work and it looks a disgrace in the middle of a carpark, just across from an Asda. Forget about your fancy designs and nice to have statues. You’ll get a souless piece of sh*t in a 2 bob town. But hey, the fans have voted so it isnt the clubs fault.
Tony Marsh
13 Posted 05/09/2007 at 16:04:49
13 Posted 05/09/2007 at 16:04:49
Mcmullan brave words from a man behind hiding behind his keyboard.
Try to glamourise this fiasco all you like with pretty trees and fancy designs but it will still be a cowshed in Kirkby.Why should the Dixe Dean statue go any where >near that place.Dixies ashes were spread over the pitch at Goodison<>park not some land fill site in Knowsley.You make me sick thinking a few trees and a statue<>taken from its rightfull place
Try to glamourise this fiasco all you like with pretty trees and fancy designs but it will still be a cowshed in Kirkby.Why should the Dixe Dean statue go any where >near that place.Dixies ashes were spread over the pitch at Goodison<>park not some land fill site in Knowsley.You make me sick thinking a few trees and a statue<>taken from its rightfull place
vin bleu
14 Posted 05/09/2007 at 16:12:06
14 Posted 05/09/2007 at 16:12:06
Tony, this thread is obviously not your cup of tea - it was intended for those of us who are looking forward to a brighter future. Sour words have again invaded what was meant to be a light-hearted, hope filled thread. Thanks boys.
HK
15 Posted 05/09/2007 at 17:01:08
15 Posted 05/09/2007 at 17:01:08
New stadium = cowshed and full of nasty "shoppers"...eew. Whereas, of course, the current facilities are immaculate, aesthetic, in one of the nicest parts of town, fine dining, drinking and dancing girls.
Grow up, will you, stop sulking and take a proper look around GP next time you go
Grow up, will you, stop sulking and take a proper look around GP next time you go
Tony Marsh
16 Posted 05/09/2007 at 17:10:07
16 Posted 05/09/2007 at 17:10:07
HK Spoken like some one who has never been to Kirkby in his life.>Do you think Cherrytree Drive is some football utopiah.If so I suggest you take a look around>Kirkby next time YOU go there.
Adam Carey
17 Posted 05/09/2007 at 17:10:42
17 Posted 05/09/2007 at 17:10:42
Fuck it! Let’s just all bitch and moan about moving to Kirkby and make sure we stay at the grand old lady Goodison.
Whoever you want to blame for allowing us to get in this position of being cap in hand to Tesco is irrelevant. We can’t afford to build on our own and that isn’t going to change in the next 10 years. There is no Sugar Daddy waiting in the wings to save us.
To all you guys and girls who do nothing but bitch about the proposed ’Tescodome’, if you don’t like it don’t go! No-one is forcing you.
Now, how about the rest of us put some positive thought into making this cowshed something we can be proud of? It’s the 50000 of us turning up that are going to see it.
Whoever you want to blame for allowing us to get in this position of being cap in hand to Tesco is irrelevant. We can’t afford to build on our own and that isn’t going to change in the next 10 years. There is no Sugar Daddy waiting in the wings to save us.
To all you guys and girls who do nothing but bitch about the proposed ’Tescodome’, if you don’t like it don’t go! No-one is forcing you.
Now, how about the rest of us put some positive thought into making this cowshed something we can be proud of? It’s the 50000 of us turning up that are going to see it.
Gerard Madden
18 Posted 05/09/2007 at 17:19:50
18 Posted 05/09/2007 at 17:19:50
We won’t be ’In the middle of a retail park’ as someone earlier said, we’ll be at its edge just off Valley Road so we can if we wish have a tree lined walkway with our Dixie’s statue at the entrance. The scaremongering being peddled by a few on here is hilarious.
Brian Noble
19 Posted 05/09/2007 at 17:17:34
19 Posted 05/09/2007 at 17:17:34
Wyness has alreadt made it clear that he has no intention of ’establishing a museum at Everton’.
’We’re just not in that business,’ he said when referring to the France Collection.
Truth is, he isn’t one of us and has no regard for our heritage and traditions.Blue Bill plays at it but is too weak to stand up ’His Wydeness’
Personally,I’ve lost interest in the move issue as I suspect ’Kirkby’will never see the light of day
’We’re just not in that business,’ he said when referring to the France Collection.
Truth is, he isn’t one of us and has no regard for our heritage and traditions.Blue Bill plays at it but is too weak to stand up ’His Wydeness’
Personally,I’ve lost interest in the move issue as I suspect ’Kirkby’will never see the light of day
robert carney
20 Posted 05/09/2007 at 18:02:26
20 Posted 05/09/2007 at 18:02:26
Adam Carey, we don’t want a sugar daddie but the fact is there a a lot of people trying to invest in the premier league.Our owners decided to speak to tesco no-one else. How short is your memory.
Have a couple of days out, Go to Reading, Middlesborough, Botlon, Wigan, Coventry etc.etc. If you still think it is a good move then write and let us know. Until then put up or shut up.
Have a couple of days out, Go to Reading, Middlesborough, Botlon, Wigan, Coventry etc.etc. If you still think it is a good move then write and let us know. Until then put up or shut up.
john Mcmullan
21 Posted 05/09/2007 at 17:46:23
21 Posted 05/09/2007 at 17:46:23
Tony Marsh I do not have to hide behind my keyboard. Sorry you said "from a man behind hiding behind his...."
For your information I was Born off Spellow lane and worked on Ashcroft road Kirkby so I don’t need you to tell me.
Like any true Everton supporter my heart will be in pieces the day we will have to move but if this is the only choice we have then as much as I hate to say it lets get on with it and be happy. We have a team starting to show promise and a brighter future one we have not had for years.
If this is too much for you, someone being happy, then you can go f... yourself and let us glow in the future and what may be. Long time since we could be positive.
Back into your slime pit Marsh and let us enjoy the moment.
For your information I was Born off Spellow lane and worked on Ashcroft road Kirkby so I don’t need you to tell me.
Like any true Everton supporter my heart will be in pieces the day we will have to move but if this is the only choice we have then as much as I hate to say it lets get on with it and be happy. We have a team starting to show promise and a brighter future one we have not had for years.
If this is too much for you, someone being happy, then you can go f... yourself and let us glow in the future and what may be. Long time since we could be positive.
Back into your slime pit Marsh and let us enjoy the moment.
Adam Carey
22 Posted 05/09/2007 at 18:33:44
22 Posted 05/09/2007 at 18:33:44
Robert Carney. All these investors seem to have a profile in that they are investing in teams with certain criteria. We are a sleeping giant with a rich history but debt, an aging stadium that is going to be a logistical bitch to upgrade and a promising team that has been in European competion 3 times since the ban was lifted. I am not surprised we haven’t been bought and before I get a tirade of the old ’Kenwright and his train set bollocks’, if the takeover bid was good enough it would happen.
As for taking a day trip, I can’t comment on Boro and Coventry but had been to Bolton and Reading and do you know what I got? Unobstructive views and some service at halftime! I’ve travelled 200 miles to Goodison on many occasions and even taken in the tour a few times but time waits for no-one.
As for taking a day trip, I can’t comment on Boro and Coventry but had been to Bolton and Reading and do you know what I got? Unobstructive views and some service at halftime! I’ve travelled 200 miles to Goodison on many occasions and even taken in the tour a few times but time waits for no-one.
JJ
23 Posted 05/09/2007 at 18:32:14
23 Posted 05/09/2007 at 18:32:14
I really like the idea of having four St.Domingo brick towers in each corner of the ground - just to distance itself from the identikit modern stadiums up and down the country.
Personally I feel that the Dixie Dean statue should be left in its current position by Goodison Park - as a memorial to Goodison. Maybe they could build a new statue of Everton legends (including Dixie Dean of course).
Hopefully, Everton could install some terraces for standing room. I know they are currently banned, but there are campaigns to reintroduce this into British football. Everton could be at the forefront of this movement.
Incidently, is the Tony Marsh of this forum actually the Tony Marsh of old. Marsh’s posts of a couple of months ago were eliquint, if scathing comments - allways an interesting read, whether you agreed with him or not. However, in recent weeks, the new Marsh has been abusive and barely intelligable.
Sorry, if I’m missing something, I havn’t been on for a while, but I was just wondering if this was an imposter Marsh, or if the move to Kirby had simply pushed Tony over the edge?
Personally I feel that the Dixie Dean statue should be left in its current position by Goodison Park - as a memorial to Goodison. Maybe they could build a new statue of Everton legends (including Dixie Dean of course).
Hopefully, Everton could install some terraces for standing room. I know they are currently banned, but there are campaigns to reintroduce this into British football. Everton could be at the forefront of this movement.
Incidently, is the Tony Marsh of this forum actually the Tony Marsh of old. Marsh’s posts of a couple of months ago were eliquint, if scathing comments - allways an interesting read, whether you agreed with him or not. However, in recent weeks, the new Marsh has been abusive and barely intelligable.
Sorry, if I’m missing something, I havn’t been on for a while, but I was just wondering if this was an imposter Marsh, or if the move to Kirby had simply pushed Tony over the edge?
Dave Roberts
24 Posted 05/09/2007 at 20:17:43
24 Posted 05/09/2007 at 20:17:43
Tony Marsh.
As I recall, where the Dixie statue is now used to be the corner of a street containing grotty little two-up,two-down slums! Rightful place??? Bollocks!
Every time somebody makes the effort to shed a little positive light on a possible move to Kirkby the same old grumblers emerge from the woodwork. And that is fine, they have a right to do that but may I suggest that anybody else who tries to look on the bright side needn’t bother as you are merely opening a door for some to try to re-ignite old (lost!) arguments.
If, in ten years time, we were in Kirkby and were celebrating the third league win on the trot and were about to go to some exotic stadium in Europe to try to bring the Champions League trophy back home for the third consecutive year these moaning buggers would STILL be there cribbing about leaving Liverpool!
If the moaners are not interested in the name of the new stadium or how it should look then don’t bother responding. Instead, start your own thread about how awful it is that the majority didn’t agree with your views and that thread could carry on interminably until the sun goes cold without bothering anybody else.
I have been going to Goodison Park for 52 years. I will cry buckets when we go! But I will not cry buckets for leaving Liverpool. Everton Football Club is OLDER than the present boundary of the city and far more important to me than the city itself...and far more important than any other football outfit who may inhabit it and who I don’t give a shit about.
Wherever Everton go I go too and I could not give a shit whether some of our own supporters consider a move to be some kind of a loss or whether supporters of any other club perceive it as some kind of a victory which, I suspect, is what the moaners are really moaning about!
For fuck’s sake move on.
As I recall, where the Dixie statue is now used to be the corner of a street containing grotty little two-up,two-down slums! Rightful place??? Bollocks!
Every time somebody makes the effort to shed a little positive light on a possible move to Kirkby the same old grumblers emerge from the woodwork. And that is fine, they have a right to do that but may I suggest that anybody else who tries to look on the bright side needn’t bother as you are merely opening a door for some to try to re-ignite old (lost!) arguments.
If, in ten years time, we were in Kirkby and were celebrating the third league win on the trot and were about to go to some exotic stadium in Europe to try to bring the Champions League trophy back home for the third consecutive year these moaning buggers would STILL be there cribbing about leaving Liverpool!
If the moaners are not interested in the name of the new stadium or how it should look then don’t bother responding. Instead, start your own thread about how awful it is that the majority didn’t agree with your views and that thread could carry on interminably until the sun goes cold without bothering anybody else.
I have been going to Goodison Park for 52 years. I will cry buckets when we go! But I will not cry buckets for leaving Liverpool. Everton Football Club is OLDER than the present boundary of the city and far more important to me than the city itself...and far more important than any other football outfit who may inhabit it and who I don’t give a shit about.
Wherever Everton go I go too and I could not give a shit whether some of our own supporters consider a move to be some kind of a loss or whether supporters of any other club perceive it as some kind of a victory which, I suspect, is what the moaners are really moaning about!
For fuck’s sake move on.
Barry Earley
25 Posted 06/09/2007 at 03:30:22
25 Posted 06/09/2007 at 03:30:22
For all those responding to Mr Marsh - "never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
DON’T RESPOND TO HIM!!! Stick with the theme of the thread. Don’t let him change the subject. Look, I’m doing it now!!
On the original thread - Vincent, all great ideas. This is the sort of thing that should be passed on to the club. Thanks for the positive post.
DON’T RESPOND TO HIM!!! Stick with the theme of the thread. Don’t let him change the subject. Look, I’m doing it now!!
On the original thread - Vincent, all great ideas. This is the sort of thing that should be passed on to the club. Thanks for the positive post.
Steve Lyth
26 Posted 06/09/2007 at 09:48:30
26 Posted 06/09/2007 at 09:48:30
Barry Early, you can pass what you want on to the club, it will go in the round filing cabinet marked bin where the new discount ground is concerned.
I think a lot of people are missing the point with regards to the location, most of the new grounds recently created are half empty on match day, why is that ? Surely Boro,Bolton and Coventry (forget Wigan they dont count)fans all wanted new facilities such as laid out for us ?
They did but they didnt want them in the middle of nowhere outside of the community they were used too. I am pretty sure a lot of us who voted no will be reserving judgement on whether to go to the new ground or not, if Kirkby becomes a reality. You can call that view fickle but that is football. I prefer to think of myself as a tradittional sort of fan and I expect more than a shiny new ground to placate my match day experience. I am all for moving but not to somewhere souless,I think a lot of Boro,Bolton and Coventry fans have since felt that way too. We are Everton and we deserve better, I for one would put my hand in my pocket to achieve that aim.
I think a lot of people are missing the point with regards to the location, most of the new grounds recently created are half empty on match day, why is that ? Surely Boro,Bolton and Coventry (forget Wigan they dont count)fans all wanted new facilities such as laid out for us ?
They did but they didnt want them in the middle of nowhere outside of the community they were used too. I am pretty sure a lot of us who voted no will be reserving judgement on whether to go to the new ground or not, if Kirkby becomes a reality. You can call that view fickle but that is football. I prefer to think of myself as a tradittional sort of fan and I expect more than a shiny new ground to placate my match day experience. I am all for moving but not to somewhere souless,I think a lot of Boro,Bolton and Coventry fans have since felt that way too. We are Everton and we deserve better, I for one would put my hand in my pocket to achieve that aim.
ryan crest
27 Posted 06/09/2007 at 10:05:25
27 Posted 06/09/2007 at 10:05:25
Would it be possible to light the entire sky over Kirkby with an enormous sign at night matches - like in Thundercats or Batman, but with a picture of a small brick prison instead of a bat (or a cat)?
If this is not possible I’d settle for ’EFC’ written in blue lazers on the bottom of clouds (that would be just as good).
If this is not possible I’d settle for ’EFC’ written in blue lazers on the bottom of clouds (that would be just as good).
ryan crest
28 Posted 06/09/2007 at 10:27:01
28 Posted 06/09/2007 at 10:27:01
And sirens - really fucking loud ones - like at the start of Frankie Goes to Hollywood’s Two Tribes. In fact we could just play Two Tribes really loud from speakers shaped like blue and white footballs. I think Holly Johnson is a really good singer. Who agrees with me?
Brian Waring
29 Posted 06/09/2007 at 11:10:16
29 Posted 06/09/2007 at 11:10:16
Vincent,some nice suggestions mate.But,what we want,and what we will end up with,well you know the rest.
Steve Lyth
30 Posted 06/09/2007 at 11:32:59
30 Posted 06/09/2007 at 11:32:59
Ryan, get some help fella, you know it makes sense
Neil A
31 Posted 07/09/2007 at 16:14:24
31 Posted 07/09/2007 at 16:14:24
I like some of the comments about the new stadium as I have been critical about the design. However recent articles - particularly from Terry Leah suggest that the furbishment of the stadium will be up to Everton. This is what will make or break the place in terms of its desirability both to our fans, casual and business users and visiting fans.
I want state of the art and I want tradition. Statues, emblems, brick built wotsits and so on would help alot. I really think though that we need to attempt to make match day what it is at Goodison. We can never replicate the great old boozers, chippies and narrow horse shit ridden streets that make it a unique experience, but could we make sure there are enough bars and eateries so that supporters can go early - have a pint and something to eat, and while the inevitable car queues abate stay and have a post match bevvy (at a decent price) at the ground.
Everton has a great chance to create a matchday event as long as they remember that supporters dont pay £3 quid for a pint in the Netley!
Also Dave Roberts mentioned that the Dixie statue was near the site of the old 2 up 2 down slums. Once upon a time the club owned these and I believe that Dixie lived in one for a time! Just a useless piece of info!
Lets move on fellahs, the Tony Marsh’s of this world will catch up like a fat boy running for the ice cream van.
I want state of the art and I want tradition. Statues, emblems, brick built wotsits and so on would help alot. I really think though that we need to attempt to make match day what it is at Goodison. We can never replicate the great old boozers, chippies and narrow horse shit ridden streets that make it a unique experience, but could we make sure there are enough bars and eateries so that supporters can go early - have a pint and something to eat, and while the inevitable car queues abate stay and have a post match bevvy (at a decent price) at the ground.
Everton has a great chance to create a matchday event as long as they remember that supporters dont pay £3 quid for a pint in the Netley!
Also Dave Roberts mentioned that the Dixie statue was near the site of the old 2 up 2 down slums. Once upon a time the club owned these and I believe that Dixie lived in one for a time! Just a useless piece of info!
Lets move on fellahs, the Tony Marsh’s of this world will catch up like a fat boy running for the ice cream van.
Neil Styles
32 Posted 07/09/2007 at 17:20:53
32 Posted 07/09/2007 at 17:20:53
I seriously think we should consider having a showroom or museum built into the stadium exterior. I mean, our history is certainly rich enough to merit one.
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1 Posted 05/09/2007 at 14:39:11