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Win, lose or draw

Is it me or does anyone else feel like you never know if we are going to beat a team? I go into every game sceptical that we will win. I think you can say that most teams, barring say the Sunderland, Derby and Birmingham, feel that they can either, win, lose or draw; whereas I never feel we can win. Even if we play Derby I'm not sure we'll beat them.

I know we have the better team but the way we play is so awful I'm not sure where the goals are going to come from. I won't go into the the way our team plays because it's obvious. But I do not feel confident in wins and when we do win I feel more relieved rather than feel the win was expected.
Trevor Thompson, Croydon Posted 24/09/2007 at 20:07:01

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Michael Kenrick

At one level, I always believed it was presumptuous to 'expect' a result, be it win, lose or draw. As I have said on here, the whole point of the game of football to my simple mind is to play the game and see who wins by counting goals scored at the end. Start expecting any given result before you play and it's a slippery slope down the swany from playground boasting and pub posturing to "prediction leagues" (Yeuk!), the Pools Panel, laying bets, and eventually not just presuming you will get a result but actually believing it... and then coming seriously unglued when it doesn't happen.

I believe there needs to be some unpredictability in the result, otherwise it's pointless. And sadly that's they way it has pretty much gone with the Big Four. Yes, it would be great if we could feel confident of the win looking forward, but it would make me a loit happier to look back at the match and say, "Yes, we played well; it was a great game. We got the result our play deserved." And hopefully that is a win.

Gaz Davies
1 Posted 25/09/2007 at 08:06:55

Obviously you can never know if we’re going to beat a team. I always have my rational head on when discussing forthcoming games with friends: "yeah, i’d take a point at Villa", but inside I’m always sure that we can do something to get a win. Even with ten minutes left I thought we could nick something on Sunday, even if they did look toothless up front.
Y’see with Everton it’s not the poor performances or the losses that get you down, it’s the hope! A lad I know described it as being in an abusive relationship - you know you should probably get out, but the love’s there! It’s a flippant comparison but a neat one.
So come on, believe we’ll win the next game, and the one after that, and if we don’t, sure, you’ll be let down but that won’t make you love them any less!
COYB!

Trevor Thompson
2 Posted 25/09/2007 at 11:03:34

Gaz that is so true about the abusive relationship! It’s like you remember the good times and hope they can change and go back to the good days. In terms of predictions; I just don’t feel that we have a chance of winning any game. I know that it can be futile making predictions but it’s nice to feel that you have a chance of winning a match. I know we are not Man United fans but I bet 99% of them go into games feeling they can win, not that they will but feel they can. I don’t even feel that. It’s more to do with the football we play rather than the players we have.

Brendan McLaughlin
3 Posted 25/09/2007 at 22:44:20

I’m sorry Trevor but I think all teams and not just most "feel that they can either win, lose or draw".
Lets face it there arn’t many other options.

Trevor Thompson
4 Posted 26/09/2007 at 05:37:41

lol point taken Brendan.