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I won't forgive him for this

Some people say that one result alone should not decide a mangager's fate but as we await the game in Kharkiv tonight with huge anxiety, I beg to differ. Because if Everton are bundled out tonight I will say without hesitation that Moyes' time is up and he should be replaced. I will never forgive him if our European dream is destroyed due to his shocking tactical incompetence in the first leg.

Obviously, to people like Dodd this sort of talk is heresy, but he is clearly a bogus Evertonian anyway, whose ridiculous 'look at me' posts constantly undermine this website's credibility. The 1,500 Evertonians who have travelled to the Ukraine will be let down more than anyone if we fail tonight.

Talking of forgiveness, if Yakubu strolls around tonight as per usual, it will be the unforgiveable to those aforementioned fans. And who decided to waste 11 million big ones on Yakubu, when we were crying out for a midfield general and pacy wide player? Hang on, it will come to me in a minute...
Gareth Hughes, Liverpool Posted 04/10/2007 at 12:47:23

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Lyndon Lloyd

Yakubu's record of being second only to Thierry Henry in goals scored in the four seasons prior to this speaks for itself. All this talk of him being lazy and having to work hard obviously goes against the style of play that turned him into an £11.5m player (in today's market) in the first place.

Basically, if you're going to spend that much money on a player, you have to play to his strengths and if that means 10 other players working their nuts off to get the ball to his feet in the box then so be it. You paid your money, now make the most of it. Expecting him to be Andy Johnson, mk II, cover every blade of grass in the final third and therefore not be in the box when he's really needed is a recipe for disaster...

Jay Campbell
1 Posted 04/10/2007 at 16:13:49

If they don’t get anything other than a victory tonight they shouldn’t bother coming back home at all. I will be disgusted!!! They are paid fortunes more than they are worth so do your f*ckin job and get the win!!!!!

Andy Hudson
2 Posted 04/10/2007 at 16:14:41

I agree Lyndon, we need someone who is going to score true ’strikers’ goals, if he spends half his game in our own half tracking back and the other half pulling out wide then what would be the point! If we can get the service to him then he will score goals, his perceived lack of interest is largely down to the fact he hasn’t had a decent ball in to the box except for when he’s scored his 2 goals.

I also disagree with the ’one result should decide moyes fate’. If it wasn’t for Moyes we wouldn’t be in europe anyway (probably). I for one am glad he’s raised the bar of expectancy so much that were gutted about a poor performance in europe and not consigned to a year in year out relegation fight! Give him time and he’ll continue to improve the good young squad we have and we’ll continue to improve as a team. Lets cut the negative crap and get behind the team for an important match!

Brian
3 Posted 04/10/2007 at 16:34:17

I agree totally with you Gareth.

Cmon the Blues!!

Barry Lightfoot
4 Posted 04/10/2007 at 16:35:22

Will the boneheaded boneheads who keep waffling on about Yakubu not runing round just please shut the hell up, it’s not his game and never will be why can’t you see this. If Moyes doesn’t play to his strengths it’s not his fault.
We all remember Bent he used to run his arse off and I sure as hell don’t want him back. If all you want is to see someone running around like an idiot go and watch athletics.

Andrew Bentley
5 Posted 04/10/2007 at 16:44:55

Well said Lyndon - couldn’t agree more. We knew we were buying a player that is "lazy" - i.e hangs round the box and scores goals. Thats what we need.

Is it any coincidence that since Beattie has gone to Sheff Utd he’s scored goals as they’ve got crosses into him and played to his strengths. At boro and Portsmouth they built their play round Yakubu and got the ball into his feet or crosses into the box. It’s no good pumping balls into the channel and asking him to chase them! We should have an out and out left winger on the pitch (VDM anyone??) and Mikel on the right and watch him start scoring for fun with some decent service.

chris keightley
6 Posted 04/10/2007 at 16:47:29

I was a striker and the best place to be is off the last man, and getting in around the penalty spot as often as you can, it has nothing to do with tracking back and running the fecking channels, i played alongside kevin phillips in his early days and although i may have looked lazy i got into scoring positions, yak will score but hes being asked to do whats un-natural to him get crosses in and feed him off the last man and he will score hatfuls coyb.

Greg Murphy
7 Posted 04/10/2007 at 16:36:57

Very hard to quibble with those sentiments, Gareth, even whilst being aware of the irony that it was Moyes that got us into Europe in the first place.
Also Lyndon’s comments about AY are spot-on: for as much as I’ve been livid at the lad’s snail impressions, the fact of the matter is that Moyes should have done his homework before signing him to assess just how he’s managed to score so many goals.
One thing’s sure, asking him to burn all over the pitch just in order to earn his "EFC Work Ethic" certificate isn’t gonna reap the same amount of goals.
Yakubu’s come as a real shock to me and I’ve really had to re-examine my mindset about "what I expect from an Everton striker" and whilst I consider showing some effort to be a minimum pre-requisite, it’s clear that Yakubu hasn’t scored so many goals from tear-arseing around the play seting up his own links in midfield and then haring into the box to finish off what he’s started.
Short and simple, he’s a very canny, arl-arse goal-hanger (eg Bolton away) and there’s more than a touch of Bob Latchford about him (a lazy bugger - but we forgive that now). Yep, 11 big ones is a lot of money for EFC and it’s wasted money if Moyes seeks to nullify half of AY’s effectiveness by insisting he empties his tank each game.
Now, as much as it goes against the grain, having just given licence to AY to strut around (coz he is reading, obviously!) I do demand an absolute shed-load of goals in return. And he ain’t gonna do that from the bench. Never mind a Catch 22 sitch, Moyes has created a Catch 44 dilemma regarding Yakubu. It to him to solve it - that’s why he bought him.

tom morris
8 Posted 04/10/2007 at 17:29:09

Moan, moan, moan (repeat to fade...)

Another matchday, another negative rant.

How about waiting to see what happens tonight before going off on (yet another) one ?

Dave Lynch
9 Posted 04/10/2007 at 19:19:13

Chris.
Couldn’t agree more. I played right mid in my younger days and you want your striker running the shoulders of the last line of defenders.
Scares the life out of em if you are quick over 5-10 yds.
Just put the ball a yard or 2 in front of em, the rest if he is any good is history.

Anthony Newell
10 Posted 04/10/2007 at 20:20:30

"For the last 15 minutes Everton haven’t put two passes together"

Doesn’t look you’ve got long to wait, this is fucking shambolic

Anthony Newell
11 Posted 04/10/2007 at 20:22:48

"Everton playing deep, struggling to get out of their own half"

stu gore
12 Posted 04/10/2007 at 20:33:10

Jageilka must come off. Passenger. Stubbs off Lescott centre Baines and Carsley on. Play higher, push Baines and Neville on. And for Gods sake play short and pass to a Blue shirt

Neil Millichip
13 Posted 04/10/2007 at 20:33:52

Oh my God...How bad was that half? Our Passing is as bad as ive ever seen it. Change it Moyes !!!!!!!!!!!

Brian Waring
14 Posted 04/10/2007 at 20:41:46

Got a lesson in how to play football by Metalist in the first half.Hoofball,hoofball and fucking hoofball by us.I’m going to pray now that we can turn this around.