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I've heard in the past that some people used to watch Everton one week and then go and watch Liverpool the next. This struck me as a bit strange. LIke most of you, I can't for life of me imagine supporting the evil ones from across the park. Does this still go on today? Could any of our older fans [Mr. Marsh for example] enlighten me?

Only kidding Tony!
Paul Cook, Yokohama, Japan Posted 10/10/2007 at 08:18:39

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John McFarlane [Senior]
1 Posted 10/10/2007 at 15:06:40

Paul, you seem to be confusing watching with supporting, we older supporters, [I am in my 70th year] would go with our mates to Goodison or Anfield [ if we weren’t attending an away fixture.] We Evertonians, would go to Anfield in the hope that Liverepool would lose, they for their part would come to Goodison hoping that we would be turned over. Unfortunately in todays climate, and the exorbitant prices, this practise does not prevail. I think it indicated not only our love for our own particular clubs, but also our love of football in general. I also believe that rivalry in those days was healthier than it is today.

patty
2 Posted 10/10/2007 at 15:58:50

Well I am 67 and a Scouser and have been watching Everton since I was 6. There is no way my Dad would have gone through the gates at Anfield unless EFC were playing them there and he, and I, used to cross ourselves every time we had to pass the place, and I still do!!!!

Teddy Draper
3 Posted 10/10/2007 at 17:10:58

Yes John Mc senior you are exactly right in what you say, you forgot to mention another reason we would go to analfield. Very few overseas players in them days, so all the teams who came to play in this city had their own stars, for example, blackpool had mathews, motenson. bolton had lofthouse, w/ham, bobby moore,fulham, jonny haynes,(jimmy hill, ha, ha) etc,etc, So you see guys, its not just a case of going to see R/S, for two bob or so, you could see exellent players every week. COYB

Dan Parker
4 Posted 10/10/2007 at 17:48:50

Go back to Anfield to remind them it’s our ground and they wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for an EFC board split.

Ray Robinson
5 Posted 10/10/2007 at 19:31:09

I used to go to Liverpool occasionally with mates and hope that Liverpool lost. I recall on one occasion being on the Kop and over-celebrating an early Newcastle goal. When asked what I was doing, I replied that I just appreciated good football and so then had to ensure that I was seen applauding the two subsequent Liverpool goals. I also used to go to Anfield in the sixties when my father’s mate worked shifts and couln’t make the match. The Kemyln oad regulars used to know I was a blue and give me some right (friendly) banter. The thing was that Liverpool never won when I attended so in the end I was banned from going!

The real reason that people don’t attend each others games these days: a) the phenomenal cost b) the friendly rivalry has gone and c) it used to be an occasion to go to a match. Now it’s on the TV so much, I only have an appetite for the Blues live matches.

Highlight of my Anfield experiences? Watching Alan Ball score the winner in the FA Cup on the big screen!

Tom Hughes
6 Posted 10/10/2007 at 21:00:37

I’ve went to loads of matches at Anfield in the 70’s-80’s. My old fella used to go quite regularly too and he was a blue, and he watched South Liverpool too. I used to go with my disabled sister, and/or my red mates. Of course always wanting them to get beat, which they rarely did in the 70’s/80’s. Thing was, you could just pay on the gate and stand with your mates, as simple as that. Why would anyone do it now to sit next to god knows who, who possibly doesn’t even speak English...... not to mention the cost comparison. The funniest thing was I had one Red mate who attended practically every Everton home match of the 80’s, early 90’s. Nearly all his match going mates were blues, and he preferred County road to Breck rd etc. He rarely went to their place once he started with us. He was gutted when the place started to become all-seater because that meant he couldn’t sit with us because despite attending nearly every game he didn’t want to be known as a season ticket holder..... I think he was just about to turn too!

Roy coyne
7 Posted 10/10/2007 at 21:26:51

Paul if my dad was working and I could not watch us play away then I went to Anfield with my uncle and prayed they got beat and if there was a mid week game I would go along It never felt like I was betraying my roots because I always supported the opposition I saw Alan Ball play his first game for Blackpool there and for one day a new hero I guy called Dave Dunmore who got a hat-trick for leyton orient,must admit there was not the bitterness then that is so blatant today I actually sat next to Callahan on the 27 bus going to a derby match telling him what we were going to do to them imagine that happening now? no neither could I.

Ian Martin
8 Posted 10/10/2007 at 22:19:33

When I was very much younger we used to watch Everton but go to Anfield when the blues were playin away. A different time when there wasnt so much hatred and football was more important than the teams involved. There was a time when the two sets of supporters spent more time laughin at Man U than hating each other.

Paul Cook
9 Posted 11/10/2007 at 00:05:21

Interesting stories, guys. Much as I dislike them I think it’s a shame that the friendly[ish] rivalry has gone.
The first ever footy game I went to was Liverpool v West Ham in 1994. Tony Cottee got sent off so I was gutted. Still, the Shite could only manage a 0-0 draw. Of course, I was surrounded by some Cockney Reds and some guy who sounded fucking German.

Eric Myles
10 Posted 11/10/2007 at 02:23:34

I used to go to Anfield with my RS brother-in-law to watch Alan Ball after he’d been transferred from us to Arsenal.

David Hall
11 Posted 11/10/2007 at 08:28:08

When I first watched Everton in the early sixties,the clubs even had a common programme.In the days when virtually all games kicked off at 3pm on Saturday (except on Grand National day!),the front few pages (there was only 6!)covered the team playing the Football League game and the back page the ’other ’team’s Central League fixture.I think this double proggie sold for 3d!

John Lloyd
12 Posted 11/10/2007 at 15:53:37

Remember as a young scally I lived off oakfield road and me and the lads used to get a chippy scran and bunk in for the last 20 mins when the blues were away, even got in for the last ever game in Kop. Pissed myself when Goss scored last goal there in 1-0 win for Norwich. Fucking Hilarious.

Michael Hackett
13 Posted 11/10/2007 at 15:56:06

Teddy Draper
"Very few overseas players in them days, so all the teams who came to play in this city had their own stars,"

Are you saying there’s no stars in the teams today. Can overseas players not be stars.

TEDDY Draper
14 Posted 11/10/2007 at 18:17:43

Michael H. I think you misunderstand mate. There are some amazing overseas players now, (wish we had more) We went to see the stars of our day, also i forgot to mention how privaledged we were to see the amazing DAVE HICKSON at home every other week. I seem to remember middlesboro having an ITALIAN goalkeeper in the fifties, and the german goalie TRAUTMAN for shittie, the ROBLEDO brothers for the barcodes, but thats about all.