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Thanks to a traitor (Rooney) conceding a penalty and a red shite (Gerard) wasting the easiest chance to score in history, England probably won't qualify for Euro 2008. Why the hell is it then that it is Phil Neville who gets booed all the time by the fans? It's not as if this is the first time Rooney has let down his country and I am sure that if that other red shite Carragher had been playing he would have chipped in with one of his customary own goals to make it 3-1.
I was thinking I could at least follow McFadden and Scotland until true to their history they once again do the hard bit then choke against a joke team. Oh well... I guess I can spend all of the next summer waiting for Moyes to make some intelligent transfer dealings.
Kieran Kinsella, Posted 18/10/2007 at 01:52:02
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Michael Kenrick
That's the trouble with football: always a chance that you might lose. It's just not fair, is it? Thankfully I'm one who took no interest in it whatsoever. I think was having a rather nice South African wine with my bacon-wrapped scallpos and apple/walnut/stilton salad. Yummy!
Baloo Johnson
1 Posted 18/10/2007 at 08:03:59
1 Posted 18/10/2007 at 08:03:59
That actually sounds rather nice Michael.
James Bicknell
2 Posted 18/10/2007 at 08:07:55
2 Posted 18/10/2007 at 08:07:55
christ grow up.
rooney scored the goal which put us 1 up [what a goal it was too !] and he fouled the player outside the box, it just shows how bitter you must be to blame him for england going out. yes gerrard missed a sitter but believe it or not their were 9 other players out there who you failed to level any blame towards...
plus you seem to forget the biggest problem is with mclaren.
as i said, grow up...you just make yourself look bad and posts like these get everton fans labelled bitter...and rightly so.
rooney scored the goal which put us 1 up [what a goal it was too !] and he fouled the player outside the box, it just shows how bitter you must be to blame him for england going out. yes gerrard missed a sitter but believe it or not their were 9 other players out there who you failed to level any blame towards...
plus you seem to forget the biggest problem is with mclaren.
as i said, grow up...you just make yourself look bad and posts like these get everton fans labelled bitter...and rightly so.
Trevor Thompson
3 Posted 18/10/2007 at 08:18:04
3 Posted 18/10/2007 at 08:18:04
I thought England played well actually. I their defending was good until the last 20 mins when they seemed to collapse but it was looking like a really good away smash n grab performance until then. England have a history of shooting themselves in the foot but for once I was actually pleased by 70 mins of the performance. It’s still not over and Israel aren’t that easy to beat at their place. Also, why the hell are talking about England on an Everton forum...
Tom Edwards
4 Posted 18/10/2007 at 08:19:02
4 Posted 18/10/2007 at 08:19:02
James B....good call, mate. I, too, am not Shrek’s biggest fan, but he can hardly be held responsible. Neither can Rat Boy. Lets face it, It would have been Heskey missing several sitters if he’d played!
If we’re on the subject of lambasting individuals, it has to be said that our own Jolean Lescott has hardly looked international class in an England shirt, yet we all know how brilliant he has been for us this season.
The plain truth is that we (England) will win nothing with the current management team. It may be a blessing that non-qualification will mean that his position will be untenable and a replacement will be sought.
God, how I hate it when we don’t qualify for a finals. I know we wouldn’t win it, but it’s nice to have a little hope for a couple of weeks every 2 summers!
If we’re on the subject of lambasting individuals, it has to be said that our own Jolean Lescott has hardly looked international class in an England shirt, yet we all know how brilliant he has been for us this season.
The plain truth is that we (England) will win nothing with the current management team. It may be a blessing that non-qualification will mean that his position will be untenable and a replacement will be sought.
God, how I hate it when we don’t qualify for a finals. I know we wouldn’t win it, but it’s nice to have a little hope for a couple of weeks every 2 summers!
Paul OHanlon
5 Posted 18/10/2007 at 09:14:59
5 Posted 18/10/2007 at 09:14:59
I’m just glad the internationals are out the way now so we can concentrate on the REAL big game of the week...the derby! It was the same before the Goodison derby last season, England international spoiling the build up to one of the best games of the season! Some of the players will only get one full days worth of training to prepare for this game, same on both sides I know, but still not on.
Although last seasons games didn’t turn out too bad did it? >:-p
Although last seasons games didn’t turn out too bad did it? >:-p
Mike Stevenson
6 Posted 18/10/2007 at 09:24:33
6 Posted 18/10/2007 at 09:24:33
Michael,
Which chippy did you buy that from? Does it come with gravy? I always knew this was the ’middle class’ Everton website and now there’s no argument! :-)
Which chippy did you buy that from? Does it come with gravy? I always knew this was the ’middle class’ Everton website and now there’s no argument! :-)
Allan Hobbs
7 Posted 18/10/2007 at 09:39:13
7 Posted 18/10/2007 at 09:39:13
England failures, class wars, slating the RS; this thread has it all!
Lescott has looked shit in his 2 games for England. He’s copped it big time in my office from non Evertonians, or ’everyone’ as I like to call them.
You can’t blame anyone for losing last night, thats football, you win some, you lose some. Apportioning blame doesn’t help anyone whether it be in football or life, its purely negative which is something they don’t subscribe to, unlike you lot and one of the reasons why they’re professional footballers and you lot are office workers who whinge on the Internet all day.
Wakey wakey!
PS I’m not a preofessional footballer due to an unhealthy interest in pubs and loose women as a younger man.
Lescott has looked shit in his 2 games for England. He’s copped it big time in my office from non Evertonians, or ’everyone’ as I like to call them.
You can’t blame anyone for losing last night, thats football, you win some, you lose some. Apportioning blame doesn’t help anyone whether it be in football or life, its purely negative which is something they don’t subscribe to, unlike you lot and one of the reasons why they’re professional footballers and you lot are office workers who whinge on the Internet all day.
Wakey wakey!
PS I’m not a preofessional footballer due to an unhealthy interest in pubs and loose women as a younger man.
Allan Hobbs
8 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:01:51
8 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:01:51
Actually scratch that last comment, since when did pubs and loose women stop professional footballers!?!
mal tosey
9 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:05:47
9 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:05:47
Let’face it ,Lescott was culpable for both Russian goals.For the first,he got skinned,leaving Rooney to take the responsibility of stopping the attacker whilst for the second he was as much to blame as Ferdinand.
Evertonians should stop seeing our players through blue-tinted glasses-they make mistakes like everyone else and recently Lescott has made more than most!
Evertonians should stop seeing our players through blue-tinted glasses-they make mistakes like everyone else and recently Lescott has made more than most!
Steve L
10 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:14:19
10 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:14:19
He didn’t get skinned for the first one. He was trying to tackle the player who played the ball through, hardly skinned. The midfield didn’t help by getting in the way and performing no useful function.
For the second the player who allowed the shot was a much to blame and the Robinson for putting it back into the danger zone. Lescott was just beaten to it by the forward
For the second the player who allowed the shot was a much to blame and the Robinson for putting it back into the danger zone. Lescott was just beaten to it by the forward
patty blue
11 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:24:06
11 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:24:06
In fairness to Rooney [and I’m not a lover of him neither], the tackle was OUTSIDE the box and a penalty should never have been given and he did score a cracking goal for England.
If anyone is to blame it’s Stevie for missing such an easy chance and virtually had he scored England would probably have gone on to win the game.
and..... if I am really honest, I don’t think our Joleon played all that well neither, and I do love him!!
If anyone is to blame it’s Stevie for missing such an easy chance and virtually had he scored England would probably have gone on to win the game.
and..... if I am really honest, I don’t think our Joleon played all that well neither, and I do love him!!
Brian
12 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:25:09
12 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:25:09
Who honestlly gives a sh*t about England?
I hate everything about England - the small town/club supporters, the media, the gobsh*te players Rooney, Gerrad etc).
Ini fact, I’d rather players like Lescott didn’t get in the team because no doubt the likes of Cole, Terry, Lampard are in his ear about how great Chelsea is etc.
Everton first all the way.
Let the southerners and small club fans worry about Ingurland
I hate everything about England - the small town/club supporters, the media, the gobsh*te players Rooney, Gerrad etc).
Ini fact, I’d rather players like Lescott didn’t get in the team because no doubt the likes of Cole, Terry, Lampard are in his ear about how great Chelsea is etc.
Everton first all the way.
Let the southerners and small club fans worry about Ingurland
William Wallace
13 Posted 18/10/2007 at 09:59:07
13 Posted 18/10/2007 at 09:59:07
please be careful what you say about the scots. If we can beat france home and away than a home tie against the italians is is not that daunting. The hampden crowd will be intimidating as always, and besides as for your mash eating rabble dont worry. All you have to do is hope that the soviets cant beat israel and andorra!. Pretty simple math.
I did enjoy last nights antics in moscow and gerrard missing a cows ass with a banjo made it all the more enjoyable. Im really going to miss next years usual two yearly indigenous asinine english flag waving, and red and white rubbish left right and centre. Dont get me wrong, im not anti english but i get fed up every two years with all the media nonsense and the usual idiots and morons i have to put up with during the tournament. The only drawback of no england appearance, I wont get to see them lose on penalties or fall flat on their faces like every two years. it would have been almost worth the wait. Never mind.
I did enjoy last nights antics in moscow and gerrard missing a cows ass with a banjo made it all the more enjoyable. Im really going to miss next years usual two yearly indigenous asinine english flag waving, and red and white rubbish left right and centre. Dont get me wrong, im not anti english but i get fed up every two years with all the media nonsense and the usual idiots and morons i have to put up with during the tournament. The only drawback of no england appearance, I wont get to see them lose on penalties or fall flat on their faces like every two years. it would have been almost worth the wait. Never mind.
Richard Cannon
14 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:30:02
14 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:30:02
Was it Lescott’s positional sense that let him down or was he told to play there? Hiddink has been quoted as saying that he out did McClaren tactically. "You could see in the first half that we had two strikers and they were playing with Lescott rather inside as a central defender with Rio Ferdinand and Sol Campbell, so in the first half we had a lot of space on the right side and so we could penetrate there; although our attacking was not fine-tuned we still had that threat. That was why I changed it at half-time; they were vulnerable that side. And I like making Joe Cole a left full-back: you get rid of one of their attackers. That is why we could damage them."
Although I think Lescott wasn’t rock solid best and looked hesitant, I believe that it was McClarens ineptitude (hoof tactics) that let England down.
Although I think Lescott wasn’t rock solid best and looked hesitant, I believe that it was McClarens ineptitude (hoof tactics) that let England down.
Allan Hobbs
15 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:35:25
15 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:35:25
Brian - and why exactly do you hate London and I’m guessing, southerners?? I’ve lived in the London area all my adult life and it’s attitudes like yours that make up the majority of ’Ingurland’ fans.
Michael Newton
16 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:36:58
16 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:36:58
Sitters are missed every game, should Robinson have saved the shot not parried out the second goal, should our own Lescott reacted to the rebound quicker than the Russian, should England have beaten Macedonia at home, should Robinson let the Croatian goal go in when he missed the ball, should the referee given the Rooney foul outside the area as contact was out of the box, should England have given the job to an unproven manager in the first place, should we allow as many foreigners into our football as we do to make the pool of players much smaller we have to choose from.
You can go on and on blaming people at the end of the day we are not good enough thats the reason.
You can go on and on blaming people at the end of the day we are not good enough thats the reason.
Tony Hawkins
17 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:36:41
17 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:36:41
Lescott DID look out of his depth during the 2 games he’s played BUT the back four has looked shakey right along the line. Yes, Campbell played well and put in some great tackles however both the centre backs looked pretty shakey too. Ferdinand wasn’t his usual unflappable self and Campbell seemed unsure most of the time.
Moving up the field, where did Barry and Owen go? Second half and Lampard went missing not to mention Downing (did either of them even touch the ball?) SWP’s seemed to be having a poor day (was it coz his dad wasn’t watching?).
Surely Robinson is not the best England ’keeper we have? Not that does not mean David James should step up!!
At least one positive came out of it - that’s the best I’ve seen Rooney play for England in a LONG time and he looked almost back to his previous determined self.
Moving up the field, where did Barry and Owen go? Second half and Lampard went missing not to mention Downing (did either of them even touch the ball?) SWP’s seemed to be having a poor day (was it coz his dad wasn’t watching?).
Surely Robinson is not the best England ’keeper we have? Not that does not mean David James should step up!!
At least one positive came out of it - that’s the best I’ve seen Rooney play for England in a LONG time and he looked almost back to his previous determined self.
Allan Hobbs
18 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:46:58
18 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:46:58
I blame the pitch. It looked like a massive grocers stall!
To be honest, I’m way more into the rugby at the moment, but thats cos I’m a big southern softie.
To be honest, I’m way more into the rugby at the moment, but thats cos I’m a big southern softie.
Tony Marsh
19 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:45:36
19 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:45:36
Who gives a shit about England and why bring them up on an Everton website?I said a few months ago that it wouldnt bother me if we never have a player in that squad well guess what we got one in the team yesterday Lesscott.Played out of position on a plastic pitch away in Russia on your full debut in the most important game for England this year by a clueless manager and guess who getting the blame for INGERLAD losing/Yep you guessed it poor old Lescott..Fuck England and the yes man old school tie brigade FA.Fuck Lampard, Gerrard, rooney,Owen and all the sponsors who pick the Englaand side.
If you wanna talk Ingerland fuck off to an INGERLAND FA website.Cant stand any of it.
If you wanna talk Ingerland fuck off to an INGERLAND FA website.Cant stand any of it.
Brian
20 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:48:17
20 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:48:17
to Alan Hobbs
I didn’t say I hated London so not sure what you’re on about there
I’m not an England fan, I’m an Everton fan first and only.
The general perception amongst most scousers is that followng England is a southern or small club thing.
I, like most of my mates, couldn’t give a rats *rse about the whole England thing.
The fabs can’t behave and are extremely fickle and the media is laughable.
The whole thing is a joke.
I
I didn’t say I hated London so not sure what you’re on about there
I’m not an England fan, I’m an Everton fan first and only.
The general perception amongst most scousers is that followng England is a southern or small club thing.
I, like most of my mates, couldn’t give a rats *rse about the whole England thing.
The fabs can’t behave and are extremely fickle and the media is laughable.
The whole thing is a joke.
I
Brian
21 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:53:52
21 Posted 18/10/2007 at 10:53:52
Well said Tony Marsh.
This is an Everton site
This is an Everton site
Allan Hobbs
22 Posted 18/10/2007 at 11:01:25
22 Posted 18/10/2007 at 11:01:25
My mistake, apologies Brian. I read it wrong, but in any case, why do you hate small clubs and their supporters? Thats whats wrong with footballs today, its all about being the biggest and the best - what happened to supporting your team regardless of size or success?
To you and Tony - people want to talk about the England game because its topical. This may be an Everton site, but its quite reasonable to talk about football generally. If you dont like it, dont read it, just go to another thread. No offence, but people have the right to talk about yesterdays game and the website guys clearly dont mind or they wouldnt have published the thread in the first place.
To you and Tony - people want to talk about the England game because its topical. This may be an Everton site, but its quite reasonable to talk about football generally. If you dont like it, dont read it, just go to another thread. No offence, but people have the right to talk about yesterdays game and the website guys clearly dont mind or they wouldnt have published the thread in the first place.
dean
23 Posted 18/10/2007 at 11:03:47
23 Posted 18/10/2007 at 11:03:47
hmm, maybe because there were 3 Everton players in the squad and would’ve been 4 if AJ hadn’t been injured.
So we can never talk about McFaddens contributions for Scotland either?
What a bunch of myopic pricks
So we can never talk about McFaddens contributions for Scotland either?
What a bunch of myopic pricks
Brian
24 Posted 18/10/2007 at 11:34:46
24 Posted 18/10/2007 at 11:34:46
to alan hobbs - nothing to do with about being the biggest and best . You don’t read things properly
dean - ok here’s the conversation, ’there were nearly 4 everton players in the squad’ - end of converstion. So f*cking what.
Go and get a life you beaut
dean - ok here’s the conversation, ’there were nearly 4 everton players in the squad’ - end of converstion. So f*cking what.
Go and get a life you beaut
Chris Masey
25 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:07:15
25 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:07:15
Do us a favour and don’t mention that Judas Traitor on this site. "Fat little knobhead" as us Gwladys Street faithful like to refer to him, should have no indirect or direct link to anything everton-related. He is motivated by two things, money and appearing in the OK magazine, and he is the only person and player in history that I wish would fail in everything he does. And everytime he does fail, it brings me happiness. "Bitter" yeh thats me, no player is bigger than this club, but Mr Rooney thought he was. Long may he fail to live up to all that potential.
COYB
COYB
Chris Masey
26 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:13:41
26 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:13:41
Alan Hobbs - take that back about Lescott, he plays for Everton you know, that team you are attempting to support on this site with your bad mouthing crap. He was no worse than any other player, and the sole reason I had any interest at all in the game last night. You should be defending him in your office, and not bad mouthing on this site, shame on you.
Allan Hobbs
27 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:16:19
27 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:16:19
Brian - ’I hate everything about England - the small town/club supporters, the media, the gobsh*te players Rooney, Gerrad etc)’
Can you explain what you mean by that then? Looks to me like you have a problem with people who support small teams from small towns!
Can you explain what you mean by that then? Looks to me like you have a problem with people who support small teams from small towns!
Allan Hobbs
28 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:29:50
28 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:29:50
Chris, I am defending him in my office, in fact my defending is better than Lescotts!
Lee Spargo
29 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:27:01
29 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:27:01
it’s rather fashionable in this part of the world to say that you dont give a shit about the England team isn’t it?
Brian
30 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:28:45
30 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:28:45
Alan Hobbs - are you a Brentford fan or something?
I don’t have any problem with small clubs or their fans.
I have a problem with the hardcore following of England fans that seem to be made up from a majority of smaller clubs/towns and continually cause trouble whereever they go.
I don’t have any problem with small clubs or their fans.
I have a problem with the hardcore following of England fans that seem to be made up from a majority of smaller clubs/towns and continually cause trouble whereever they go.
Brian
31 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:35:10
31 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:35:10
Thats a very intelligent statement Lee. Well done mate.
Seth DeMerit
32 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:26:59
32 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:26:59
Now come on lads - lets not get all hot headed about the old club v country debate. I though Lescott did ok last night. Not brillant - butcome on he was out of position in his full debut - he was never gonna be Ashley Cole. Besides isnt the most important thing that he wasnt injured -he’ll be fit to play on Sat?
England f**ked up a year ago. Qualifying should not of come down to last night. We should of been in a position where if we lost it wouldnt of mattered. Anyway England is over - now its back to the really important stuff.
We get a wn on sat and wednesday will be a distant memory - so guys how do we get one of the red shite?!!
And Mr Hobbs - Where Sir has Mr Claringbold gone?
England f**ked up a year ago. Qualifying should not of come down to last night. We should of been in a position where if we lost it wouldnt of mattered. Anyway England is over - now its back to the really important stuff.
We get a wn on sat and wednesday will be a distant memory - so guys how do we get one of the red shite?!!
And Mr Hobbs - Where Sir has Mr Claringbold gone?
Steve Lee
33 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:51:00
33 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:51:00
Scallpos Michael?
You’d have been better of with the scallops.
You’d have been better of with the scallops.
Bob Parrington
34 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:53:24
34 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:53:24
Good one Steve - & Michael, maybe you’d have been better with one of our brilliant Adelaide Hills wines!!!!!! Those South African ones give you the wrong kind of Blues!?!
Stu Gore
35 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:52:36
35 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:52:36
The rest of the country gets an insight into being an Evertonian.
Support a team filled with decent, solid players who can play excellently but, for inexplicable reasons, don’t. And disappoint you.
Anyway Bolx to England. BEAT THE SHITE. COYB
Support a team filled with decent, solid players who can play excellently but, for inexplicable reasons, don’t. And disappoint you.
Anyway Bolx to England. BEAT THE SHITE. COYB
James Elworthy
36 Posted 18/10/2007 at 13:03:43
36 Posted 18/10/2007 at 13:03:43
The fact that Lescott didnt play well for England and neither does AJ is good for us it will keep the vultures away.
As long as they display good club form thats all that matters.
Now you know why Anichebe chose Nigeria instead of England
As long as they display good club form thats all that matters.
Now you know why Anichebe chose Nigeria instead of England
Chris Masey
37 Posted 18/10/2007 at 13:03:28
37 Posted 18/10/2007 at 13:03:28
Alan, if you think you’re a better defender than Lescott, I suggest you put that in writing to the manager, we could do with a better defence this year. What is your background in football? I assume you have Premier League experience and have been capped at international level to justify such a comment? Oh, I thought you worked in an office, hold on, that doesn’t make sense.....
Peter Venkman
38 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:13:31
38 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:13:31
Any evertonians with england team allengencies should remember that since Gary Lineker (1986) our players have been constantly overlooked up until the last year or so. Of course there was unsworth getting a cap in the Umbro Japan tournament or whatever it was but thats not really significant enough. Its not that they saw us as not big enough to contribute to the national team but maybe over the past 15/20 years we have had more welsh/scots/irish /others on our books. See southall,horne,mcCall.Sharp,carsley,sheedy etc, the list is endless. I will be shedding no tears if the national team does not make the plane to swiitzerland, even better that johnson, lescott and others that are picked can stay here and concentrate on what really matters - trophies in our cupboard. I want to see Everton football club win (silverware)- not abject false dawn performances from a national side. Domestics come first.
Evelyn Mason
39 Posted 18/10/2007 at 13:28:47
39 Posted 18/10/2007 at 13:28:47
Did anyone notice in the crowd last night a small but nonetheless significant red shite rag - LFC Pride of Somerset. Says it all really.
Thats the christmas break in weston-super-mare cancelled then.
Thats the christmas break in weston-super-mare cancelled then.
Allan Hobbs
40 Posted 18/10/2007 at 14:03:45
40 Posted 18/10/2007 at 14:03:45
Chris - I’m over tired and now struggling to know whether you’re playing along with me or ’havin a pop’ now!?
Brian - I support Everton funnily enough. Its true that alot of the trouble makers support smaller clubs, and that the majority of ’rows’ at football these days happens in the lower leagues so you’re right about that. Your comments just looked a bit like you blame the England team for that. Its hardly their fault that the knuckle grazers follow our national team. I agree with you mate; everything about England and its followers stinks, but I still support them and Everton. I do increasingly fine myself wanting to support the blues more though.
Oh, and I prefer rugby currently anyway.:)
Brian - I support Everton funnily enough. Its true that alot of the trouble makers support smaller clubs, and that the majority of ’rows’ at football these days happens in the lower leagues so you’re right about that. Your comments just looked a bit like you blame the England team for that. Its hardly their fault that the knuckle grazers follow our national team. I agree with you mate; everything about England and its followers stinks, but I still support them and Everton. I do increasingly fine myself wanting to support the blues more though.
Oh, and I prefer rugby currently anyway.:)
DJ
41 Posted 18/10/2007 at 14:09:27
41 Posted 18/10/2007 at 14:09:27
James Bicknell and the rest of you, how can you say rooney hasnt cost us the game we have been carrying him for 3yrs have you not noticed he hasnt scored not to mention had a big part to play in us not getting any further in the world cup, so he got a lucky goal big deal what was he doing at left back giving away a dubious penalty next you will be saying the same as the papers that its lescotts fault, get a grip we are proper efc fans, we dont want your sort on here, do one.
Tony Williams
42 Posted 18/10/2007 at 14:15:14
42 Posted 18/10/2007 at 14:15:14
Hear, hear Tony Marsh
I don’t believe I have just typed that.
;-)
I don’t believe I have just typed that.
;-)
patty blue
43 Posted 18/10/2007 at 14:28:50
43 Posted 18/10/2007 at 14:28:50
Okay guys ... calm down, calm down!!!
Personally its Celts like William Wallace that get up my nose. I support whichever team from G.B. is in any European/World Cup Competition. You want to try living in Wales - they want the English to fail in everything - mind you they are crap at football and rugby too nowadays, so they can’t say much but they do like to see us fall in whatever we do not only football and that, Mr. Wallace is what’s wrong with you, you should support all four GB teams. I support Scotland and think its terrific what Fadders has done for your side so you support Lescott, Johnson or Phil Neville if they play for England. I agree that I would rather they didn’t play as they always get injured somehow - take young Vaughan for instance and the Club pays the Price. Everton first in my book.
Personally its Celts like William Wallace that get up my nose. I support whichever team from G.B. is in any European/World Cup Competition. You want to try living in Wales - they want the English to fail in everything - mind you they are crap at football and rugby too nowadays, so they can’t say much but they do like to see us fall in whatever we do not only football and that, Mr. Wallace is what’s wrong with you, you should support all four GB teams. I support Scotland and think its terrific what Fadders has done for your side so you support Lescott, Johnson or Phil Neville if they play for England. I agree that I would rather they didn’t play as they always get injured somehow - take young Vaughan for instance and the Club pays the Price. Everton first in my book.
Allan Hobbs
44 Posted 18/10/2007 at 14:47:50
44 Posted 18/10/2007 at 14:47:50
Sweeping generalisations a-plenty eh kids!
The Scots hate the English, the Welsh hate the English, the French hate the English......there’s a theme appearing...
Anyone think we’re gonna beat the RS on Saturday? I do.
The Scots hate the English, the Welsh hate the English, the French hate the English......there’s a theme appearing...
Anyone think we’re gonna beat the RS on Saturday? I do.
William Wallace
45 Posted 18/10/2007 at 14:43:09
45 Posted 18/10/2007 at 14:43:09
It will be a cold day in hell when i support the bun eaters. Funnily enough I lived in Aberdeen for many a year and there seemed to be a shortage of red and white flags on every street corner and you can take my word for it when england tournament games were on there was not many of us cheering from the rooftops. And how the hell can I be a celt - thats ireland is it not. get your facts straight. Hopefully by the weekend and we resume battle with the shite from across the park all this international jousting will be water under the bridge. Amen to that.
Matt Bone
46 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:55:04
46 Posted 18/10/2007 at 12:55:04
As an Everton fan, perhaps Russia's win last night is not such a bad thing. Or to put it another way, Guus Hiddinks first ever win against English opposition. Just glad his first win did not come against the Toffees in this years Uefa Cup. On a seperate note, perhaps we are closer to seeing the back of McClaren as England manager.
Chris Masey
47 Posted 18/10/2007 at 13:15:52
47 Posted 18/10/2007 at 13:15:52
Watching England lose in Russia was great entertainment for me. Ferdinand, Gerrard, Fat Little Nobhead, etc. All those overpaid bastards failing, not finding enough passion, pride or ability to get a result.
?It?s the Pitch? they say, or ?its Mclaren, we need Mourinho!? someone bellows, and ? it wasn?t a penalty, we were robbed!?, a fat English thug shouts as he leaves the stadium, and contemplates going back to his Brentford season ticket.
So why is it then, when I sit down to watch the England Rugby team potentially achieve the biggest sporting achievement against all odds, will my adrenalin be pumping? I think the answer is, in Rugby terms, I am not committed to any club. Which brings me on to my overall point.
When it comes to Football, Everton will rule my interest, desires and passion. I would prefer none of the current squad to be in that embarrassment that impersonates the national side, and stay fit for Everton. Yet, several commentators on this site seem to care what happens to our national side.
So I hereby declare, I would take three points in any game for Everton, over any positive outcome for England. This Saturday is a far bigger game in my life than that joke that graced our screens last night. And for christs sake, stop having a go at Lescott, because when I reach my seat for saturdays game, ?there is only one Jolean Lescott?. Thank god the football I want, is returning, because as you can see from my earlier comment, I am turning to Rugby, because the international football is so depressing!
Paul Coleman
48 Posted 18/10/2007 at 14:11:23
48 Posted 18/10/2007 at 14:11:23
May I be the first to say here that Andrei Arshavin looks absoloute class.
He tore the England defence apart with his dribbling and electric pace. He made Richards look like an overweight snail.
I have emailed the club and told them to scout him because I think he is the new Kanchelskis.
The worrying thing is that he plays for our Uefa cup opponents Zenit and I do worry when he comes up against Hibbert we will be dismantled. David Moyes, buy this lad!!
Allan Hobbs
49 Posted 18/10/2007 at 15:07:34
49 Posted 18/10/2007 at 15:07:34
Russia played everso well. That is all.
Erin Kane
50 Posted 18/10/2007 at 15:09:25
50 Posted 18/10/2007 at 15:09:25
The growing consensus on here it that most evertonians dont give two shits about the national team (england). Exactly. The world cup does not go back to goodison park.
I ask anybody to take the time to look at todays "when skies are grey" to illustrate my point. I will suspect davie boy had a wry smile at 5.45 last night. The subsequent time after that is a different story. Pride comes before a fall.
I ask anybody to take the time to look at todays "when skies are grey" to illustrate my point. I will suspect davie boy had a wry smile at 5.45 last night. The subsequent time after that is a different story. Pride comes before a fall.
English & proud of it
51 Posted 19/10/2007 at 10:59:10
51 Posted 19/10/2007 at 10:59:10
Mr. Wallace - Should that be picts or pricks for not supporting all teams from the British Isles
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