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Moyes, what's my view worth?
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Having stumbled across this superb site a few months ago I?ve enjoyed replacing occasional work time boredom with reading the fans comments, and I?m most intrigued by the apparent diversity in opinion surrounding the performance of David Moyes as manager of this great club. To put my views into context I?m a football fan who has followed Everton for 20ish years, but given the regularity with which I visit Goodison I?d be cheeky to call myself an Everton fan!
I would like to hear your views on whether Moyes is the right manager to lead Everton into a position where they are consistently challenging for the Premiership title?
For what it?s worth I think he is the right man.
From memory when he took over the reins in 2002 he inherited a small squad that lacked quality, a club that lacked transfer funds, a club that lacked progressive management, ownership and stability (5 managers in circa 9 years), and a side that had seemingly always languished in the bottom half of the premiership, occasionally narrowly missing relegation.
Under Moyes Everton have finished 7th, 17th, 4th, 11th and 6th, a big improvement on the group of preceding Premiership finishes, even though the squad was still small and for the most part transfer funds still lacked in comparison to rival clubs. For me, the improvement is largely down to Moyes intelligent management; he plays a style of football that is best suited to his squad i.e. in the past, Hoofball that was not pretty but relatively effective given the squad. Before I get the ?sounds like your advocating Hoofball? replies thrown at me, I don?t support it for the current improved squad, but I did understand its place while we lacked quality.
OK, I accept that the club is probably now under new better ownership and transfer funds have improved (if only this or last year) but in my opinion under Moyes Everton have overachieved based on the standard of the squad ? and Moyes is to thank for that. I also agree that Moyes is prone to the odd mistake, tactical naivety at home to Metalist, occasional suspect player selection but he is still cutting his teeth as a relatively young, inexperienced manager.
Moyes is intelligent, willing and able to learn, hard working, mostly liked by his players and determined to win trophies with Everton. He gives Everton much needed stability. He is now buying better quality players and slowly adapting our play away from the ugly, but at a time successful Hoofball, to a more attractive passing style.
For those Moyes doubters out there, what am I missing?
Gavin Uren, Posted 01/11/2007 at 17:03:53
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2 Posted 01/11/2007 at 21:43:55
One thing I’d like to say is that people still point out his "bad signings"..............I don’t think there’s any doubt that his "good signings" far, far outweigh the bad.
One final comment...you said:
"To put my views into context I?m a football fan who has followed Everton for 20ish years, but given the regularity with which I visit Goodison I?d be cheeky to call myself an Everton fan!"
I know where you’re coming from but I’ve supported Everton since 1968.....I’ve seen them play live about half-a-dozen times...and whilst I admire greatly the fans who pay week-in week-out to see them play live I still consider myself an Everton Fan and I’m extremely proud to describe myself that way.
Come on you Blues.....let’s thrash The Red Shite in the League Cup QF, then Chelsea in the SF and then Arsenal in the final!!!
Jeez....wouldn’t we all be speechless if that happened!!!
3 Posted 01/11/2007 at 23:18:07
4 Posted 02/11/2007 at 03:02:32
Jeez!
Say what YOU want, I have my opinion and whilst I agree the quality of footy could be better...the overall results/attitude/expectations/average age etc., etc is much better.........I didn’t say the quality of play on the field is what we want and I implied that if we were to play like Arsenal it would be nice.
You can’t have everything..........not all at once anyway!
5 Posted 02/11/2007 at 06:02:07
6 Posted 02/11/2007 at 08:50:37
7 Posted 02/11/2007 at 10:48:13
But- Five years on and apart from the league finishes in the last four years, The cup progession under moyes since 2002 has been a major disappoitment. Even with Walter Smith we got to the last eight of the Fa cup two or three times, even if the league cup remained elusive. Along with that remaining unbeaten in the derby games.
I hope we can win the league cup. That at least would paper over some of the cracks not only for the last five years but since the last time we won anything as a whole. A piece of silverware, could be the platform to go on and achieve something significant.
But i dont know, I dont pick the team, which subsequently goes out and plays together to get the results that are needed to move the club forward. Thats down to Moyes, my patience is wearing a bit thin but I have no immediate wanting to see the back of him.
8 Posted 02/11/2007 at 12:59:11
9 Posted 02/11/2007 at 13:31:36
Winning The FA Cup would be better, the UEFA Cup even better and coming top of the Prem -- utter magic but that clearly isn’t going to happen anytime soon.....I think The Red Shite can be overtaken (they ain’t as good as they say they are)....but the top three would take some beating with their resources.
10 Posted 02/11/2007 at 14:28:46
The was a time in the recent past when foriegn takeovers and extortionate salaries where a thing yet to come, but there were specific managers who had the unique ability without much funds to transform a team into formidable opposition, and more often than not, involved when the end of season prizes were handed out.
Its easy to say that had some moneybags taken hold of our club we may well be in a better state than we are now. At this moment in time we dont have the financial clout to get ahead of others and the premiership is getting less competetive each year i feel.
11 Posted 02/11/2007 at 20:49:56
It is equally true to say that the quality of football remains dire; and that we are unlikely to win anything under his leadership.
We need a change.


1 Posted 01/11/2007 at 20:45:49
This is not to say I am not frustrated by the anomalies of Moyes’ management style: strange substitutions, periodic reversion to ugly route one football, and occasional displays of tactical naivity. Disappointing signings, namely Kroldrup, VDM, Beattie and Da Silva, have played their part.
But on the whole, I believe Moyes is still the man to take us forward. He has displayed signs that he has the potential to develop into a top Premiership manager, and thus develop Everton into a team able to break into the lucrative top 4 oligarchy. Tactically astute, sensible, and with the ability to bring players to fulfil their promise (Rooney, Lescott, Cahill, Arteta... Vaughan and Anichebe), David Moyes is currently still the man to take Everton forward.