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Puts it all in perspective a bit, the alleged payslip of a certain player ?
(Can I just write the word alleged, alleged, alleged, alleged. These people allegedly can be a bit paranoid and have good lawyers !)
Somehow in the heat of a season it doesn't matter for a while but then there's an dose of reality....even if the story isn't true.
Now I have no more dislike of any highflying player than any of ours and I guess that is how "the glorious market" operates.
But for those who are a little older and lived before 1979, this is obscene and pehaps as we cry out for Kenright to buy, buy, buy and then buy higher, we should remember just whose friggin money they are taking.
Enjoy work tomorrow.
I'm keeping my payslip under armed guard I tell ya... not having floods of footballers calling for a sub.
Jesus.
Ged Simpson, Posted 01/11/2007 at 18:44:02
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Peter Pridgeon
2 Posted 01/11/2007 at 22:58:22
2 Posted 01/11/2007 at 22:58:22
You are right Matt; the EPL is huge international success and the product is growing by the day, People all over the world are adopting teams (mostly the big four) and this will have a carry on effect.
People like David Beckham give the game its stardom, but the speed and the ability of the foreign players have added so much to the product. Most countries in Africa, Europe the Americas and Oceania are represented with the odd east asian country also having players in the EPL, Rupert Murdoch has made the Premier league accessible to millions of people who would not normally watch it and consequently the money has flooded in and will continue.
This is a comment that appeared in a program I have from 1970 Everton v Nottingham forest.
In the roundabout section:
For the second half TV rights of our cup match in Monchengladbach the West German champions were reported to have received a fee of around seven thousand pounds about ten times the fee paid by the BBC for Match of the Day. The London evening news reported Crystal Palace manager Bert Heads view point on this subject:
Football is being sold on the cheap. Clubs get approximately seven hundred and fifty ponds from the BBC and around two hundred and fifty for ITVs the Big Match What would Humperdinck or Tom Jones demand for that length of time?
We often get letters from far away place like Singapore, Australia and New Zealand saying: "we saw you on telly"
So the films of our matches must be dispatched around the world I think the day is not far off when TV payments will have to be reassessed"
How times have changed
People like David Beckham give the game its stardom, but the speed and the ability of the foreign players have added so much to the product. Most countries in Africa, Europe the Americas and Oceania are represented with the odd east asian country also having players in the EPL, Rupert Murdoch has made the Premier league accessible to millions of people who would not normally watch it and consequently the money has flooded in and will continue.
This is a comment that appeared in a program I have from 1970 Everton v Nottingham forest.
In the roundabout section:
For the second half TV rights of our cup match in Monchengladbach the West German champions were reported to have received a fee of around seven thousand pounds about ten times the fee paid by the BBC for Match of the Day. The London evening news reported Crystal Palace manager Bert Heads view point on this subject:
Football is being sold on the cheap. Clubs get approximately seven hundred and fifty ponds from the BBC and around two hundred and fifty for ITVs the Big Match What would Humperdinck or Tom Jones demand for that length of time?
We often get letters from far away place like Singapore, Australia and New Zealand saying: "we saw you on telly"
So the films of our matches must be dispatched around the world I think the day is not far off when TV payments will have to be reassessed"
How times have changed
Dick Fearon
3 Posted 01/11/2007 at 23:13:22
3 Posted 01/11/2007 at 23:13:22
Crowds and the atmosphere they create make the EPL an attractive proposition for TV companies. without those two elements the viewing public would soon lose interest. A packed house at a 3rd division game would draw more viewers than a silent empty Old Trafford or Goodison
Supporters sickened by disgusting over the top wages of players could turn their backs on the game, I know some who already have. Such a drift away could turn into a stampede. What happens then to palaces of dreams, TV rights and rich lifestyles.
It must be in the long term interest of the media and the game that crowd levels are maintained. That is why any new TV deal should come with the proviso that gate fees are not increased.
Supporters sickened by disgusting over the top wages of players could turn their backs on the game, I know some who already have. Such a drift away could turn into a stampede. What happens then to palaces of dreams, TV rights and rich lifestyles.
It must be in the long term interest of the media and the game that crowd levels are maintained. That is why any new TV deal should come with the proviso that gate fees are not increased.
Mark Stone
4 Posted 02/11/2007 at 10:30:30
4 Posted 02/11/2007 at 10:30:30
Matt I disagree - look at the plight of clubs such as Leeds and stories such as the Seth Johnson one. I agree with Ged. We keep asking Kenwright to put his hand in his pocket but if a player of Riise’s ability costs £140’000 per week what can we realistically expect?!
Erik Dols
5 Posted 02/11/2007 at 11:01:04
5 Posted 02/11/2007 at 11:01:04
Even if Hibbert got payed a billion a match I’d still watch footy. The wages the players are getting may be absurd, but I don’t care one bit once inside the stadium or once the game started on the television. I contribute a fair share of my income to football-related causes and I’m only interested in the product I’m getting for my money. Not in how the receivers of my money spend it exactly, they just need to keep their product up to quality, and if that means spending millions on player wages, so be it. I have no real problem with that.
Damian Scott
6 Posted 02/11/2007 at 11:45:00
6 Posted 02/11/2007 at 11:45:00
Mark... I’d very much doubt that Riise gets paid 140 grand per week..... That slip was a monthly payslip.... He’s on 35 grand per week
Mark Stone
7 Posted 02/11/2007 at 12:17:11
7 Posted 02/11/2007 at 12:17:11
Damien, it says weekly on it. Have you seen it? After tax it is just under £82’500k, but the gross cost the the club is £140000. There’s bonuses to the tune of £20k, so without bonuses he’d be on £60 - 70k. I doubt hes only on a basic of £15k a week after tax? If you let me know your email I’ll forward it.
Walter Peck
8 Posted 02/11/2007 at 12:48:21
8 Posted 02/11/2007 at 12:48:21
Theres a certain player- for a large london club who gets a salary of 150,000 per week.
Thats without advertisements, sponsorship deals and other "fringe benefits"
Im not the greatest mathematician but as i see it, it would take - 13 and a half years for me to earn that much on my current salary.
Football wages are becoming increasingly absurd and i fear for the game as a whole.
The player in question, does not lack ability or commitment, but for 13 years worth of my (or others) wages for ninety minutes "work" is simply not on.
Thats without advertisements, sponsorship deals and other "fringe benefits"
Im not the greatest mathematician but as i see it, it would take - 13 and a half years for me to earn that much on my current salary.
Football wages are becoming increasingly absurd and i fear for the game as a whole.
The player in question, does not lack ability or commitment, but for 13 years worth of my (or others) wages for ninety minutes "work" is simply not on.
Matt Sweeney
9 Posted 02/11/2007 at 13:54:27
9 Posted 02/11/2007 at 13:54:27
I dont know why people think you cant mention Risse’s name, considering its been in every newspaper and news website as a fact. And the payslip was for the month, not weekly.
Lee Spargo
10 Posted 02/11/2007 at 14:00:47
10 Posted 02/11/2007 at 14:00:47
Players may very well be part of the successful product that is the EPL, and they may very well be entitled to their slice of the pie.
The problem is though, if the clubs didn’t charge £30 to get in, £3.50 for a pie, £2.00 for a coke and £40 for a shirt, and if Sky didnt charge £45 a month for a subscription, don’t you think that they would get a much smaller slice?
It’s our money boys, and until we stop buying, it will just get worse. Hibbert will be on £100k a week by 2010 - you watch
The problem is though, if the clubs didn’t charge £30 to get in, £3.50 for a pie, £2.00 for a coke and £40 for a shirt, and if Sky didnt charge £45 a month for a subscription, don’t you think that they would get a much smaller slice?
It’s our money boys, and until we stop buying, it will just get worse. Hibbert will be on £100k a week by 2010 - you watch
Dave Lynch
11 Posted 02/11/2007 at 15:44:41
11 Posted 02/11/2007 at 15:44:41
Lee.
You are so right my friend. Football has been re-packaged and sold to us in bits and bobs.
The marketing men now run the game, and it is run for a tv audience hence the kick off times constantly being changed.
But as you rightly state. It is OUR money that keeps the game afloat.
We just pay for it in a different way.
You are so right my friend. Football has been re-packaged and sold to us in bits and bobs.
The marketing men now run the game, and it is run for a tv audience hence the kick off times constantly being changed.
But as you rightly state. It is OUR money that keeps the game afloat.
We just pay for it in a different way.
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1 Posted 01/11/2007 at 22:33:41
If the players didn’t get it, the chairman/ board of directors would.
I don’t know the figures, but I’m sure that only a small percentage of the cash generated comes from ’our pockets’. The majority is TV money from around the world.