I know of a stadium that houses around 50,000 supporters, will become available over the next few years, is located well within the city of Liverpool, a stadium which the mighty Blues were once along time ago kicked out of.
Surely it is our right to reclaim it as OUR own. If it seems a little difficult to stomach ? and frankly I'm shocking myself writing this ? but we must explore all the possibilites that may stop us from leaving the city of Liverpool. Anyway just think of how those red noses will feel when their beloved Anfield is painted blue, serves over-priced, warm Chang beer and reverberates to the sound of Z cars and 50,000 + mad Evertonians. Has anyone got Bill Kenwrights phone number?
Mike McCarthy, Posted 07/11/2007 at 20:22:35
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If we didn't need the proceeds from Goodison ? or have to rely on Tesco as well ? we might have been able to do the same.
1 Posted 07/11/2007 at 22:38:36
Wit the Premier league attracting more foreign investment than any other league in the world, couple this witha good run in the domestic and Uefa cup fronts we are looking more of an attactive proposition every day.
It will be an interesting 2008....
2 Posted 07/11/2007 at 23:14:17
Firstly, Everton must remain in the city. You may add that what is the city but a boundary? and you would have a point. so we must more clearly define where we consider it acceptable for everton to relocate to? i would suggest that everton not relocate outside 3 distinct areas. The first being the walton area...the second being the everton area...and the third being within very close proximty of the city centre itself(the docks for instance, example kings dock). Why? Walton has essentially been our home now for the better part of 115 years. Everton is our heritage. both of these are very important...the city centre is the only non-hertiage option to my mind because its the city centre. feasability? we can argue feasability all day, but nothing should be impossible, if we desire to achieve something so much it can be done!
That small debate out the way, i consider the design of the stadium to be all important. A stadium, a home for out beloved club, is more than simple that, a stadium or a home? its a piece of art, heritage, a statement of intent and greatness, a symbol of everything that everton is! do not let the board sell us the idea of a rectangle stadium instead of an oval as a revolution in thought on stadium design and a continuation of evertons heritage. I hate to say it, but the shite have got there stadium design right, because its got ambition without limit and perspective of what a home and piece of art should be. A new stadium for everton football club should incorporate icons of this great club, the tower of our crest, the wreaths, statues of out greats, not a poster that says peoples club on it??? its should be ambitious, beatiful, make u shiver everytime you enter, make you weap with joy at first glimpse, make that walk the ground every week a walk of anticipation. Why not build a stadium of such stature but in the mould of goodison? for me, the iconic look of goosion is created by the main stands imposition over the rest of the ground, the first 3 teared stand, goodision was for years the cutting edge, a new goodision could be again? a new three teared stand, with a two sides encoporating the two teared gladdy an bullens road end look, and a single teared park end type stand would maintain our unique stadium anew. that is everton, that is goodision, not a heartless rectangle, which no doubt kirkby has been presented as...we may as well have an oval shape.
Think i have said enough...i want evertonians to think about this, we seem to eager and easy to settle for a new stadium, regardless of location no matter of its design?? our children, childrens children will have to sit in this ground...lets aim to make it as iconic as the sydny opera house, not as dull as the JJB?
3 Posted 07/11/2007 at 23:47:26
4 Posted 08/11/2007 at 00:53:18
However, I think it would be a great idea to reclaim what was once ours, run amok there for 2 years only, whilst we REBUILD GOODISON on its current site.
I am anticipating an explosive response to this suggestion. Thank Christ I am in Aus.
5 Posted 08/11/2007 at 06:29:53
We did not get kicked out of Anfield, we walked out
6 Posted 08/11/2007 at 08:11:48
7 Posted 08/11/2007 at 09:47:45
Our proposed ground is taken from one of the German grounds I think isn’t it? Can anyone remember which one? I remember quite liking their ground; it looked like an old style ground (which I think most Evertonians want) so it might end up being pretty good. Goodison is old, its fucked and falling apart, much as I love it, it is on its last legs to be fair. We need to move, fact.
8 Posted 08/11/2007 at 10:07:46
9 Posted 08/11/2007 at 10:18:34
10 Posted 08/11/2007 at 10:57:44
Legends that graced Goodison during the 1966 World Cup. England are set to bid for the 2018 WC. Now imagine England get it.
"A stadium, a home for ourbeloved club, is more than simply that, a stadium or a home? its a piece of art, heritage, a statement of intent and greatness, a symbol of everything that everton is!"
We need a stadium that can compete to host games in the World Cup (whenever it may be). Current plans, ideas, venues etc, fall very short of that......
11 Posted 08/11/2007 at 11:01:46
Anfield painted blue? Z-Cars on the tannoys?
First off i believe the pinkies spiritual home is to be torn down for redevelopment when they vacate and move to their new premises.
Even if it was still a viable option, i would not exactly be mad about the idea of moving across Stanley and playing home games at a hated rivals old stomping ground.
Could you possibly envisage the red shite doing the same and moving into Goodison if the roles were reversed? Didn’t think so.
Dont get me wrong, i’m all for staying within the city boundaries but this option while locationally ideal is a no brainer.
Its just as well that this soft idea will never see the light of day.
12 Posted 08/11/2007 at 10:58:16
Yes I am whinging, yes I won't let it go.. why? because its bloody important!
13 Posted 08/11/2007 at 11:33:35
On to the main point - I’ve a feeling some on here have absolutely zero idea how close their new stadium will be to their old site - It’s new Anny Road ’Kop’ will literally be yards and I mean yards from their old Anny Road ’away’ end. No way on gods earth will the council allow EFC/LFC to be THAT close together. In any case they’ve got other plans for their old site.
14 Posted 08/11/2007 at 12:06:53
The fact that it is outside of the city boundaries is what people are annoyed with.
15 Posted 08/11/2007 at 12:01:43
16 Posted 08/11/2007 at 12:14:54
17 Posted 08/11/2007 at 12:18:30
Why are we still debating this anyway? We need to move, Goodison has had its day - move on people, history is......history, leave it behind. The futures bright, it just aint at Goodison.
18 Posted 08/11/2007 at 12:17:01
My god I think I am at the Dolphin Stadium Miami
19 Posted 08/11/2007 at 12:35:36
20 Posted 08/11/2007 at 12:34:59
21 Posted 08/11/2007 at 12:34:33
Well FIFA rules say only 1 city can have 2 or more stadiums so if were were still in our current location, we would have no chance against the 60,000 capacity airport terminal across the park.
However, a move to Kirkby is not in Liverpool and therefore a 50,000 capactiy stadium there would be elligible to host games as well.
22 Posted 08/11/2007 at 12:39:43
23 Posted 08/11/2007 at 12:41:50
24 Posted 08/11/2007 at 12:46:22
I went to an Atlanta Braves baseball game, BBQ in the carpark, loads of beer, all kids got a bat when they went in as was bat day. Imagine kids here what they would do with one of them.
Yes the guy came round to your seat serving beer, hot dogs, popcorn you name it, He shouted what he had in poetry.
It was fun and I was so pissed glad I wasnt driving.
As for the game it was shite boring and too long, but with all the entertainment and ale it was a fun day.
I am thinking of taking up test match cricket where you can have 5 days and nights on the ale and fall asleep during the game and not miss anything.
25 Posted 08/11/2007 at 12:48:58
"I see no evidence of a ?large divide in the fanbase? except on small message boards"
Where the hell have you been this last year?? This has been the single, most argument-provoking topic to hit EFC since Alan Ball was sold! And you haven’t noticed it!
Well, well, well - that’s a clear enough message for us all to completely disregard your drivel in future.
26 Posted 08/11/2007 at 13:12:03
Initial soil surveys have confirmed that due to amount of manure that has been on the field for many many years it is good fertile land for the growth of cabbages and spuds.
I for one have put my mother in law down for a patch, as the more time she spends growing sprouts the less time she will come round to my house.
27 Posted 08/11/2007 at 13:19:17
Still havent chagrd the record I see
Happy with events on and of the pitch ? your delusional mate. The fanbase is split like never before and only a marked improvement on the pitch is masking the fucking shambles off it
SMELL THE COFFEE
28 Posted 08/11/2007 at 13:35:31
Is peter johnson on his way back?
Sandwiches and changs close at hand would be lovely . And dont forget the vegetables.
But enough about the players.
I am kind of looking forward to the kirkby move, I was not happy about it by any means, but the future and well being of the club is of paramount importance although i can fully understand some peoples sentiments about wanting to remain with the old lady.
Unfortunately its a part of life that things change and sometimes you have to move on for the better. I wonder at the stadium if z-cars will be played there too. As the show itself was centered on the kirkby area itself, its truly fitting.
29 Posted 08/11/2007 at 14:03:31
They also suggest stadia of 40000 capacity & above. I?m not sure where it came from but it has been mentioned in a few articles regarding world cup bids.
Hence at present you couldn?t use COM & Old Trafford or Anfield & Goodison, as the likely city with 2 stadia would be London with Wembley & The Emirates.
When Evertons ground has been suggested, it has been the new stadium in Kirkby.
30 Posted 08/11/2007 at 13:58:08
I have pasted some of his comments.
’He’s been learning German now for 2 years and all he can say is Guten Tag’ (A comment about Ghanian Lawrence Aidoo who he coached at Moechengladbach)
They are quick to build a monument to you in football if your succesful but even quicker to piss on it if your not.
Well he certainly looks more interesting now.(after one of his players received a broken nose)
On why he didnt sign Daniel Felghauer, ’He came into the dressing room and asked to swap jerseys, I said why as you will have plenty next season when you play for us, he stared at me like I had two heads, he failed my humour test so I didnt sign him’
On German reunification when he coached East German minnows Jena.
Now that the Berlin wall has come down I expect a phone call any minute from Bayern Munich to offer me a job.
I wonder if Herr Mayer will have any witticisms tonight after he gets thrashed.
Any scouser witticims anyone for him to come up with.
31 Posted 08/11/2007 at 14:00:23
Oh, and as for move into An(al)field. You must be joking.
32 Posted 08/11/2007 at 13:55:14
My one hope is to come out the Goodison and watch a game before the Old Lady comes down. I’ve read a few people suggest a short-term move to Anfield while Goodison is redeveloped. I think a ground redevelopment without ever leaving Goodison is possible (KEIOC has some plans on their site), and levels would never dip below 30,000, I think it is. I may not know much, but this seems to be the best option in the end. Tottenham are unwuilling to leave their ground, and are planning a redevelopment at White Heart Lane. I think more than an architectural staement needs to be made in a stadium for a club like Everton. This club seems to have a deeper connection to its current home, with the soil, and ought not abandon it under any circumstances. I’ve heard a lot of talk about how we need to grow to compete in the future, and while I agree to some extenet, there’s something to be said about the soul of this club. It’s just different, and it’s why I pull for Everton when everyone else over here has never heard of them.
33 Posted 08/11/2007 at 15:02:35
We have to look to the future, invest in it and leave the past in the past - not forget, but let it go, and leaving Goodison is part of that. We need to move to keep apace with our competitors - all those clubs that have had to move, have moved or are about to move so why should we be any different? Staying put would be shooting ourselves in the foot because we can’t afford to stay there if we want to compete with the top teams. Its very simple, this is no time for being all blurry eyed about the past.
34 Posted 08/11/2007 at 15:14:37
35 Posted 08/11/2007 at 15:20:22
We dont have much money so our hands are tied in some respects with our options regarding a move - Goodison cannot be redeveloped in a timely or costly manner due to our partners in the ground move needing space for their own ventures - therefore staying put isn’t really an option for us. We need to ’keep up with the Joneses’ so moving has to happen soon; the flood of money into the game is continuing to grow and we must be a part of that otherwise we’ll become smaller & smaller, rather than bigger.
Liverpool are indeed moving very close to Anfield, just across the way in Stanley Park in fact, but theres no room for 2 there and theres no point debating the point as its a done deal with the council (whether we like it or not)
I believe that we dont have much choice in this due to the financial aspect; people on here hate me for it but I’m a firm believer that change is a good thing, and positive forward thinking is what gets us where we want to be in life - looking back never made a buck, nor did it make a success out of anyone.
36 Posted 08/11/2007 at 17:20:11
37 Posted 08/11/2007 at 22:13:38
What I do care about is keeping everton in the city. To all you people out there who "reluctantly" voted to move to a tin shack in Kirkby to enable the club to move forward, what makes you think that fifty thousand supporters are going to turn up every week, were going to sell another 5,000 hot dinners and warm changs which should by bully boy?s reconning take us up another level and into the champions league.
Most evertonians I know (who are mostly season ticket holders) say they will not renew their tickets in Kirkby. Some say they will only pick their games. In a nut shell Liverpool are getting a city centre penthouse whilst were getting a council flat in Kirkby. Now that may be allright for you but it?s not for me and thousands others who see this as reinventing another football club outside Liverpool.
Bill Kenwright has got a serious problem.