Many months ago, I vowed that the day Everton left the city of my birth I would stop supporting them.
Now I know that many will see that as narrow minded,short sighted or just plain cussed but I made the vow and I will stick to it. Mrs Isherwood says the only person it will hurt is me ? and she`s probably right about that ? but I could not in all conscience be part of an organisation that sold its soul for commercial expediency.
I earnestly believe that 95% of the "yes" voters if they had to be honest KNOW this move is morally wrong. But what price morals in today's world?
OK, I`ll still listen out for the score and no doubt get drawn into discussion in the alehouse but does that still qualify me as an Evertonian? When you've missed no more than a dozen home games in forty-odd years, it doesn't fit right but like marriage and old age, I guess I`ll get used to it. Does anybody else feel the same?
Derek Isherwood, Posted 17/11/2007 at 13:55:27
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1 Posted 17/11/2007 at 17:49:40
2 Posted 17/11/2007 at 17:56:35
3 Posted 17/11/2007 at 17:57:35
4 Posted 17/11/2007 at 18:05:02
5 Posted 17/11/2007 at 18:14:11
It will be hard to leave Goodison and I will never cherish this new ground but I wont stop sopporting. Everton is in my heart and its in my soul and nothing will get in the way of that.
I personally vey much doubt Derek will stop supporting Everton. That for me is to hard for a fan to do but its just my opinion.
6 Posted 17/11/2007 at 18:14:13
Get real. Being an Everton supporter is more important than life itself.
The success of the team and the fabulous supporters we have are what made Goodison the place we all love. We can do that again wherever the new stadium is.
7 Posted 17/11/2007 at 18:19:05
8 Posted 17/11/2007 at 18:28:41
9 Posted 17/11/2007 at 18:36:48
I am not pro Kirkby I would prefer to stay within the Liverpool boundary but the Everton blood in my veins will keep me watching the club I have supported all my life.
10 Posted 17/11/2007 at 18:40:56
You’re not on your own feeling like that.
I voted against the move but will continue to go.
I’m still praying that the Kirkby doesn’t happen. It’s by no means done and dusted.
11 Posted 17/11/2007 at 18:56:52
12 Posted 17/11/2007 at 19:07:50
13 Posted 17/11/2007 at 19:12:30
been watching for 40 odd years too, I’m with you and though it would break my heart, I wouldnt go to Kirkby either, but if you listen carefully there are very definite rumblings of regret and a genuine concern by some ardent yes voters, its becoming increasingly obvious to them that they have clearly been mislead,
Kirkby ? cant happpen, wont happen.
14 Posted 17/11/2007 at 19:40:00
15 Posted 17/11/2007 at 20:01:51
16 Posted 17/11/2007 at 20:08:14
Morally wrong ! Get over yourself man.
17 Posted 17/11/2007 at 19:50:06
18 Posted 17/11/2007 at 20:00:40
I didnt claim it was morally wrong, just stated my position, thats all, sorry to disappoint you but I’ll be staying around to fight this all the way, who do you think you are ?
If its insults you want to trade go down the alehouse, just because your prepared to take the first offer to come along, doesnt mean the rest of us shouldnt fight for something better , by the way, if you know your history - which you obviously dont there wasnt a poll last time we moved
run along now theres a good chap this ones for grown ups
19 Posted 17/11/2007 at 20:31:33
20 Posted 17/11/2007 at 21:00:32
21 Posted 17/11/2007 at 21:05:41
22 Posted 17/11/2007 at 21:04:54
23 Posted 17/11/2007 at 21:08:41
24 Posted 17/11/2007 at 21:28:09
25 Posted 17/11/2007 at 21:20:17
Players come and go, managers come and go, chairmen come and go, stadiums come and go and even fans come and go but Everton will always be there and if you are a true fan you will still support the club, even if it means just looking out for the result and hoping they win.
A similar thing happened at my hometown club Brighton several years ago. Then chairman tried to ruin the club and sold the stadium and made them share Gillingham’s ground 150 miles away, (least Kirkby is only one mile away, for all those moaning ’supporters’ try travelling 150 miles!), but the club came through it after 3 years in Gillingham, the fans ousted the chairman and got them moved back to Brighton, if only an old run down athletics track just to get them back into the city! Now after ten years without a proper ground, they have finally got planning permission to build on the outskirts.
Therefore all Everton fans complaining about moving to Kirkby think how lucky you are and that it could be worse:
1. You have a club
2. You don’t travel 150 miles to watch your hometown club groundshare
3. You don’t travel 270 (540 miles round trip!) to watch your favourite team. Most of you complaining fans actually live in Liverpool!
4. There are worse things in life but Everton will always live on, so you might as well get behind them and support them.
C O Y B
26 Posted 17/11/2007 at 22:02:12
I say that the reason you feel you can?t go to Kirkby paradoxically underscores just how much of a Blue you are. I?ve done my own soul-searching on this one. I?m utterly gutted about the whole Kirkby thing.
But I?ve made my decision. I?m gonna go. Not bothering with a season ticket, though. And I?ll stick it out up a certain point. That limit will be if - or when - I start to really sense that it?s not ?my Everton? any longer.
Once I get a whiff that we really have surrendered our heritage, class, dignity, style and pride - which are all the Evertonian qualities that I believe transcend the players on the pitch (they are merely passing employees), the shirts (they change every year anyway), the badge even - then I?ll be off.
If, however, I sense that the unique heritage, class, dignity, style and pride of Evertonia is still somehow intact at Kirkby then I?ll stick around and plump for a season ticket. And life.
It could be anything that clinches it for me, either one way or the other. For instance if I find that in order to fill the place we?re allowing the likes of the RS, Utd, Toon etc some two or three times their allocation then I?ll jib it. If I find that there?s just no X-factor about the place then I?ll jib.
Conversely, if I happily discover that the spirit of Evertonia is so durable and it really starts to look like we could even move to the moon and it would still look like, smell like, feel like Everton then I?ll sign up for the rest of my natural.
It all depends on fans? very personal convictions about what Everton means to them, or what they believe Everton is.
People are right when they say that Everton isn?t a ground. By the same token, though, it ain?t the players either. It ain?t the Blue of the shirts. It?s not the badge. It?s something totally indefinable - probably very personal - and I fear we?ll only sense what it is / was when it?s gone.
Stick to your guns, Derek. You don?t deserve a slaggin - coz this ain?t your fault.
27 Posted 17/11/2007 at 23:02:07
28 Posted 17/11/2007 at 23:33:10
Look, have your opinions. Campaign for what you believe in. Try to change the club’s mind if you think they are wrong. At the end of the day, if we do move, it is the fans who will make it work or not. If we can pack out the stadium then we might just start the ball rolling on something special. If you stay away you are not hurting BK, or KW - they will be dead and gone one day. You will hurt the club.
29 Posted 18/11/2007 at 01:00:05
30 Posted 18/11/2007 at 03:13:44
31 Posted 18/11/2007 at 06:58:41
32 Posted 18/11/2007 at 08:03:46
33 Posted 18/11/2007 at 09:13:47
The stadium issue is no longer a debate where we can all air our views, it’s getting completely polarised with people almost having to take sides. Blue against Blue.
I am dreading the day we leave Goodison, even if it were for a new stadium half a mile away. We all have our reasons for wanting to stay at GP, nostalgia, history, the atmosphere or whatever.
A few weeks ago I had to go to Goodison to sort out a problem with my seat. I had to go into the ground to choose another seat. The place looked impressive even when it was empty but WE are what makes the place special. The sound of OUR voices, OUR singing, OUR presence.
Before travelling back home I walked all the way around the ground, the place was deserted, not a soul to be seen. Match days, well, the place is buzzing, those terraced houses are part of the picture that is the Grand Old Lady.
Take all of those pictures away and you’ve still got US, the people who follow and support their team.
Goodison and the surrounding area is the canvas and we are the colours that create that something which is very special.
I don’t want to go to Kirkby, I don’t really want to move from what has been familiar to me for 40+ years but I WILL be moving with my team because I couldnt possibly not go. No matter how cheated I may feel by the behaviour of the Board etc, I can’t and won’t give up on my team.
I’m not from Liverpool so I can’t possibly understand what the word Kirkby means to so many people and why it means the end of their support for the club but I can understand the feeling of being shafted by the Board. Year in, year out, something else happens to destroy what little faith we may or may not have had in our ’leaders’.
How can we ever believe that their intentions are honourable?
There’s still plenty of water to go under the bridge but whichever way it goes, call me whatever you want, I’ll still be there.
34 Posted 18/11/2007 at 10:59:27
As for those who state I will watch everton anywhere, good on you too but dont harp this shite that Goodison is not Everton and it dont matter where we play as it fucking does , Dont give me shit that 115 years of playing at the old lady means fuck all to what Everton is all about, picture the fast show- lads on clocks, arches behind goals criss cross metalwork mmmm
What will they say for the new ground ?
I will give Kirkby a chance but I am terified at the very real possibility of turning up and seeing something that is not Everton and saying this is it for me and I am sure there are thousands more with the same worry.
If they sat down with supporters and spoke about what we wanted for this ground then it would certainly help but the fact is they wont , the midweel video proves that.
35 Posted 18/11/2007 at 12:38:53
36 Posted 18/11/2007 at 13:01:58
37 Posted 18/11/2007 at 16:38:37
38 Posted 18/11/2007 at 22:22:16
39 Posted 19/11/2007 at 08:39:24
I don’t support Liverpool City.
I don’t support Walton.
For the last thirty odd years ...
I SUPPORT EVERTON AND WHEREVER THEY LAY THERE HAT, THAT’S OUR HOME!!!
40 Posted 19/11/2007 at 12:52:25
41 Posted 19/11/2007 at 13:50:03
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
Not any less of a fan but certainly fickle.
42 Posted 19/11/2007 at 15:46:38
43 Posted 20/11/2007 at 17:16:21