Looks like Irvine is off to Preston... Who should replace him?
Irvine has done a great job and supported David Moyes very well. Would anyone have any qualms about Sammy Lee as a replacement? Probably the best available Assistent out their. Shame he is a kopite!
Personally I would like to see some foreign influence brought in.
Craig Taylor, Posted 19/11/2007 at 16:26:24
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1 Posted 19/11/2007 at 17:04:14
2 Posted 19/11/2007 at 17:04:06
3 Posted 19/11/2007 at 17:10:28
I can do that
4 Posted 19/11/2007 at 17:10:28
5 Posted 19/11/2007 at 17:10:17
Who to replace him with? Perhaps that Spaniard from across the park - Paco Whatsisname - that would at least upset the RS!
6 Posted 19/11/2007 at 17:15:58
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8 Posted 19/11/2007 at 17:28:07
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10 Posted 19/11/2007 at 17:33:39
11 Posted 19/11/2007 at 17:34:56
12 Posted 19/11/2007 at 17:38:21
You must be joking, I would stop supporting if he were appointed. What have we become to even consider him?
13 Posted 19/11/2007 at 17:40:28
But I think Colin Harvey should be dragged back from Bolton, bringing Gary speed with him.
Gotta be better than Sammy effin Lee!!1
14 Posted 19/11/2007 at 17:45:22
15 Posted 19/11/2007 at 17:52:28
How about that bloke from the rugby, the one who won the cup , was at Southampton for a bit.
Could be the groundbreaking scenario we need... and he’s a blue... apparently.
16 Posted 19/11/2007 at 18:01:29
But whats to say the likes of lumsden and one or 2 other coaches may folllow irvine to pne as well
17 Posted 19/11/2007 at 18:01:23
Long shot - Davey Weir coming back, he still lives in the area and now Scotland have missed out maybe he woudl be willing to put his boots on the shelf.
18 Posted 19/11/2007 at 18:01:15
"What have become.."
Grown-ups, maybe ?
19 Posted 19/11/2007 at 18:05:55
I always think asst. Mgr needs to be someone who can easily speak to the media, etc...I’d like to see an ex-blue come in and do a job, and Davie Weir, Dave Watson, or Pat Nevin would fill the bill...
20 Posted 19/11/2007 at 18:04:49
21 Posted 19/11/2007 at 18:07:41
I think we need to get someone who can work closely with moyes on a personal level too because if we get someone too different there might be a conflict as moyes is a strong character.
He also needs to have a good personality and sense of humour so the players can get on well with him.
I am sure there is someone already lined up.
22 Posted 19/11/2007 at 18:14:02
23 Posted 19/11/2007 at 18:09:32
24 Posted 19/11/2007 at 18:18:45
Sammy Lee despite being a RS is actually a hell of a good coach and a really nice guy. I have met him many times at functions and he is a lovely bloke.
25 Posted 19/11/2007 at 18:26:11
26 Posted 19/11/2007 at 18:34:11
Moniz from spurs, or Carlos Pereira
But really how much does anyone know about assistant managers?
27 Posted 19/11/2007 at 18:35:47
However, he may be a bit inexperienced on the Coaching side and perhaps the answer does lie abroad. Somebody to take on the attacking play and make us better on the ball.
Whoever we get has to get on well with Moyes and has to be of a similar personality. Not a dour Scot, but somebody who values hard work, loyalty and will not try to undermine Davey.
28 Posted 19/11/2007 at 18:52:15
29 Posted 19/11/2007 at 18:55:58
30 Posted 19/11/2007 at 18:54:16
Ian Snods would have the right attirude as would a number of ex players and pundits. But I personally agree with the idea of new blood and new ideas to synergise with the already good work Moyes and Irvine have put into place at Everton. Who this would be , O havent got a clue. But a foreign would add greater scope to our play and also give us some much needed intelligence on up and coming young talent in other countries.
31 Posted 19/11/2007 at 18:51:06
32 Posted 19/11/2007 at 19:03:10
33 Posted 19/11/2007 at 18:57:51
I do think he was a surprise when Moyes first chose him as assistant, but he is just that, an assistant. Moyes is the man, so I know his choice will be he right one.
It won’t be Sammy Lee.
34 Posted 19/11/2007 at 19:10:14
Remember when Harry Redknapp got in Jim Smith and he did a good job for him...it doesn’t have to be a young retiring pro does it?
35 Posted 19/11/2007 at 19:13:47
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41 Posted 19/11/2007 at 19:44:47
42 Posted 19/11/2007 at 19:51:39
43 Posted 19/11/2007 at 20:08:08
Does he go for someone to bring along, or some older experienced head to bring something different to the party?
I would want someone who knows what it is like to win things, and is an Evertonian.
44 Posted 19/11/2007 at 20:36:58
Oh well, seriousley though, I would go for someone who is very well versed on the technical side of the game and has a good background in stragergy.
Not sure who would fit that bill??
Please, can anybody tell me why we ar enot on TV for the game against Zenit???
What has happened to five?s ceverage???
45 Posted 19/11/2007 at 20:47:54
46 Posted 19/11/2007 at 20:45:53
Didn’t speed pick the team when he was here becuase kendall was always pissed as a fart?
47 Posted 19/11/2007 at 20:56:04
An ex pro is about all you can say at the moment really; I wouldn’t be surprised if it was someone Scottish that Moyes knows well. An ex team-mate possibly.
48 Posted 19/11/2007 at 20:56:45
Sammy fucking Lee.
I am totally appalled by this drivel. You may as well have a capuchin monkey on the sidelines, with a little embroidered jacket and fez, banging a drum.
Whoever comes has to be able to give high level tactical input to Moyes.
49 Posted 19/11/2007 at 20:40:22
50 Posted 19/11/2007 at 20:55:29
51 Posted 19/11/2007 at 21:10:30
He said he went to an Everton game once, kickoff 3pm Saturday. Before the game he went to the hotel for a drink in the bar where the Everton team was staying at 12:15. In the bar he says, was Howard Kendall the manager having a drink.
Howie?s likeness of the nectar is legendary
52 Posted 19/11/2007 at 21:08:19
Couldn’t we have Sammy Lee with the Fez and embroidered jacket on we could use him as target practice.
53 Posted 19/11/2007 at 21:12:20
54 Posted 19/11/2007 at 21:19:48
I think Moyes will go for Kelham O?Hanlon. Wasn?t he first choice before Irvine when he first took the job?
He?s currently coach at Barnsley and Moyes will appoint him. Mark my word.
55 Posted 19/11/2007 at 21:25:27
56 Posted 19/11/2007 at 21:29:24
57 Posted 19/11/2007 at 21:24:07
58 Posted 19/11/2007 at 21:31:08
Ray-Ray Robinson I love you
59 Posted 19/11/2007 at 21:31:01
For me Chris Hughton is an awesome shout.
60 Posted 19/11/2007 at 21:32:54
61 Posted 19/11/2007 at 21:43:29
Mark - stubbs doesn?t deserve it.I for one, wont; forget how he was so far up Rooney?s arse when he left. And he is represented by Stretford. He?s a miserable bastard as well.
Great servant and player but once he?s finished, thats the end of him. Theres better characters than him like Dave Watson.
62 Posted 19/11/2007 at 21:31:03
I bet most of you that suggested ex-players are the first to accuse the club of lacking ambition!
Some of the names put forward are almost as daft as the talk of Shearer becoming the next England Manager.
It will almost certainly be someone that Moyes knows and trusts who has some proven ability as a coach.
Personally I hope it?s not an ex-first team coach as the last thing you need is a clash of alpha males used to being the main man. Moyes is strong-willed and needs a more submissive yet quietly assertive personality - someone like Irvine. He clearly respects him, listens to him and leans on him, yet there could never be any doubt as to who runs the show and calls the shots. That is what makes a good partnership.
And Ratcliffe really fucked me off the other night when he was commentating on our matches in Europe. He sounded clueless and overly critical in the main part. Like Nev, one of my original heroes, but I?d never have them anywhere near the team now.
63 Posted 19/11/2007 at 21:52:49
"If then son you will be a man" still brings a tear to my eye.
64 Posted 19/11/2007 at 21:54:27
Some of the names on here are ridiculous.
Another thing is that the candidate should have the neccesary level of coaching badges.
That rules a lot of people out.
I would like to see Gary Speed here because he is currently earning his coaching stripes and is a blue no matter what you guys say.
If I played for Everton under Kendall and there was a drinking culture then I would want out. I would not want to work with a bunch of pissheads!!!!
Gary Speed is and always has been a top pro and judging by the fact that he can still cut the mustard in the prem at his age proves that.
The fact is that the man is a big believer in fitness and looking after yourself and if he saw players around his wearing the royal blue, yet damaging themselves by drinking with the managers permission then I do not blame him for walking out.
He also kept his dignity by not bad mouthing the club or anyone associated with it when he left.
How shit were we under Kendall?
If you found that it was bacause of alcohol as well as shit players you would be fuming!
Oh Gary Gary, Gary Gary Gary Gary Gary Speed!!!!!
65 Posted 19/11/2007 at 22:17:00
66 Posted 19/11/2007 at 22:35:46
He’s knows bloody everything!
67 Posted 19/11/2007 at 22:36:12
I’m sure the club will appoint the right person if Irvine does leave. Moyes went on reputation for Irvine and didn’t know him that well before he joined.
I’d like to thank Irvine and wish him the best of luck if he does go.
68 Posted 19/11/2007 at 22:42:40
69 Posted 19/11/2007 at 22:47:05
Although I feel Andy & Barry would do a great job knowledge-wise, I don;t feel they would leave the comfort zone of their media careers to do it.
We tried to get Gray years ago but he is on mega bucks with Sky and clearly has no intention of giving that up.
Another suggestion was Chris Hughton. I think he is Spurs to the bone, and if he did go elsewhere I feel it would be down south somewhere.
70 Posted 19/11/2007 at 22:56:02
Also its amusing reading everyone laughing at Howard Kendall always being pissed and leaving Gary Speed to pick the team. But Andy Van Der Meyde is a waste of space isnt he...
71 Posted 19/11/2007 at 23:13:00
He’d sort out the lazy bastards in the team. All the players would be too shit scared of not putting in 110%.
Hail Assistant Manager BIG DUNC!!!
72 Posted 19/11/2007 at 23:34:08
Big Dunc? I’d love it, but naaah..
73 Posted 19/11/2007 at 23:46:39
74 Posted 20/11/2007 at 00:08:42
Anyway on the subject of coach it has to be somebody who will conform to Moyes law so I think Andy Holden will be rewarded for some excellent work although I personallly would love to see a foreign coach to take our tactical and technical level up a couple of notches and feel that somebody like Klinskmann Jol or Bilic would do nicely although all are seeking managers jobs.
I would not like any previous players because I think the game has moved on although I do rate Brian Kidd and Mike Newell.
75 Posted 20/11/2007 at 00:19:04
Thats a genuine question as when I see him he does my head in. He’s been behind the scenes at spurs for years involved with some bloody awful teams, so what is it that you know that I dont?? He never leaves when a new manager comes in which would suggest thathe doesnt have loyalty to the man he is coaching for as most top No.2’s should have. He is probably Spurs board top grass ha ha.
I still think it will be a re-shuffle of current coaches with Andy Holden moving up to no.2 with Neil Dewsnip getting reserve team with the top job he’s doing with academy kids, assuming they want it, or O’Hanlon from an earlier post if Moyes originally wanted him then he may look at his siyuation now.
76 Posted 20/11/2007 at 05:49:20
As everyone else here has named an ex-blue, I will throw in my lot as well... Let?s get David Ginola back!!!!!
77 Posted 20/11/2007 at 08:29:18
78 Posted 20/11/2007 at 08:29:18
79 Posted 20/11/2007 at 08:46:28
He may not fancy a number 2 job though after being a number 1 albeit at a crap club
80 Posted 20/11/2007 at 09:08:36
He aint no Sven Goran Eriksson, but he will have lots of other things to bring to the table.
81 Posted 20/11/2007 at 09:00:54
82 Posted 20/11/2007 at 09:23:41
Ex player, liked the club. He has been interested in management and had a brief bash at notloB.
Has to better than even considering RS Sammy Lee!
Stubbsy is great but a bit short in the brains department. Moyes will want a ?thinker?.
As for Kevin Ratcliffe - he has gone way down in my estimation after all the negative comments he made about EFC whilst commentating on UEFA games ... no chance!
83 Posted 20/11/2007 at 09:45:43
Big Dunc doesn’t have any coaching qualifications you have to be a UEFA A coach to get the job.
Moyes will bring in his own man and one that he can control, he is in charge and likes people to know that.
I think Andy Holden has a chance with Stubbs retiring at the end of the season and running the reserves which he is involved in.
Sammy Lee is a RS so he wont get the job irrespective of his ability and likeability. His connections with the darkside are too strong.
Billy Davies has been mentioned but he will want to be a number one.
Is Ian Snodin a qualified coach I am not sure. Barry Horne would be an astute choice.
84 Posted 20/11/2007 at 10:19:13
I also agree that he is the boss and needs a man that will go with his direction of management.
I through into the ring Tord Grip !
85 Posted 20/11/2007 at 10:19:51
Sammy Lee - you are having a laugh - if he wants to go anywhere let him go back to the red shite where he belongs.
86 Posted 20/11/2007 at 11:28:41
For all those who have suggested Sammy Lee why not go for the best - Phil Thompson?
87 Posted 20/11/2007 at 11:40:17
88 Posted 20/11/2007 at 11:54:07
He kept quiet about Kendall being pissed all the time and kept his dignity.
I wont take anything away from Howard as both a great player and a manager here during her first spell but does he still lurk around the bars and hospitality suites on match days, surely his presence would put Speed off.
89 Posted 20/11/2007 at 12:05:36
90 Posted 20/11/2007 at 12:17:32
Brian Kidd and Steve Round who was Middlesboro’s coach and now England coach under McLaren & Venables.
91 Posted 20/11/2007 at 12:10:12
Seriously, I have to say that I’ll be sad to see Irvine go - he has done a good job over the last few years and I don’t like the idea of any major upheaval at this time of the season, especially after such a good run. Plenty of people to replace him and I’m sure Moyes will make an informed decision rather than running around like a headless chicken - if he is a control freak as was mentioned above then the appointment will be well thought out.
Anyway, just for fun, and to throw another name in to the hat - what about Ally McCoist?
92 Posted 20/11/2007 at 12:06:31
He has been a great asset particularly to Ireland when he was No.2....
He would be a great addition
93 Posted 20/11/2007 at 12:16:52
Sammy Lee - never gonna happen, stupid faced little ginger dwarf red shite yes man.
Billy Davies is a maybe, if/when he gets fired by Derby.
Its bound to be someone Moyes knows well, like I said; possibly an ex team mate, someone Scottish probably. Either that or Holden.
All these names being banded about are unlikely
94 Posted 20/11/2007 at 12:29:08
Kidd ? who had a spell at Goodison Park during his successful playing career in 1979 ? is currently working with Bryan Robson at Sheffield United and the Blades would not encourage any approach for his services.
But a possible return to Merseyside could be too strong a lure for Kidd, who was responsible for helping develop players such as Paul Scholes, David Beckham, Ryan Giggs and Everton captain Phil Neville during his time with Manchester United.
The 58-year-old is vastly experienced and has been a manager in his own right at Preston and Blackburn Rovers. He has returned to work in fine health after having surgery for prostate cancer in 2004.
Round, meanwhile, might be lesser known but has a good reputation within the game and is currently working with Sam Allardyce at Newcastle.
He started his coaching career alongside Jim Smith at Derby after a knee injury forced his premature retirement before moving to Middlesbrough with Steve McClaren in 2001. Round followed him on to the England staff.
95 Posted 20/11/2007 at 12:40:48
Brian Kidd’s a great assistant manager - plenty of experience too.
96 Posted 20/11/2007 at 12:45:54
97 Posted 20/11/2007 at 13:12:42
Check out this link. I think we should start a campaign to get it played on then screen before all home matches.
98 Posted 20/11/2007 at 13:06:00
99 Posted 20/11/2007 at 14:06:35
He’s the Chelsea ’link’ between the board & the players - they’d never let him go.
100 Posted 20/11/2007 at 14:14:55
101 Posted 20/11/2007 at 14:36:43
102 Posted 20/11/2007 at 14:46:35
Clarke would be a good coach though having said that.
Adrian Heath doesnt inspire me, he has journeymanned round in recent times.
Brian Kidd has a good reputation and Round must be a good coach if he is at England (tongue in cheek).
Brian Kidd would be happy as a number 2 as well which former no. 1’s like say Billy Davies is about to be wouldnt.
103 Posted 20/11/2007 at 14:39:54
Jimmy Lumsden is getting no younger and I imagine having two coaches would be beneficial
104 Posted 20/11/2007 at 15:35:24
105 Posted 20/11/2007 at 16:06:34
Number 2’s are normally not high profile apart from maybe Carlos Quieroz as Fergie wont speak to the BBC, or Allardyce and Redknapps number 2’s who have to speak to the BBC as well because their unscrupulous tranfer dealings were exposed by Panorama
I think Kiddo would make a good coach for us, as a player he took no nonsense from anyone and would soon put some upstart in his place on the training ground.
As an attacking player maybe he can bend the ear of Moyes a bit more than Irvine did about attack minded substitutions and be of benefit to the young strikers at the club more.
106 Posted 20/11/2007 at 20:47:27
107 Posted 23/11/2007 at 13:40:21
I'm sure it will never happen, but The reaction on Toffeeweb will be interesting.
Brian Kidd would be my favourite choice, but other names could include, Peter Reid, Kevin Ratcliffe, Dave Watson or what about Alan Stubbs?